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The True Story Behind Christopher Eccleston's Doctor Who Exit
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Eccleston was excellent. Tennant became a fan fave, but Eccleston made the show a hit.
I agree. The show could have flopped very fast but Eccleston brought a reason to watch. He does not get the credit he deserves.
@@Laceykat66 hear, hear! I must check out his Big Finish Ninth Doctor adventures sometime soon.
Eccleston was my favorite by far, of the new series of Doctors.
Tenant made it a HIT but Chris put it back on the map ! Period.
@@obibraxton2232 Well, hardly "period" but I can see your point.
Honestly, Eccleston embodied the darkness of the doctor unparalleled by anyone but John Hurt. A brilliant actor, who brought it back and needs to be brought back again
TV yes, but at least he came back Doctor Who in the big finish audio dramas.
Am I the only one who sees potential in LIVE ACTUON versions of Big Finish audio series like "Stranded",
"The War Doctor Begins", "Missy" and of course the 9th Doctor series done recently?
Doctor Who has a mind blowing mythos the BBC is failing to tap into like Star Trek, Star Wars, Marvel, DC and other brands have.
Big Finish's profile as a company would be boosted big time and considering the BBC is starting it's own streaming service what a better reason for Doctor Who spin offs?
Adaptions of their Time War and Gallifrey series would be HUGE hits.
And best thing? There's material for endless series and seasons. It's a WIN WIN for everyone.
10th doctor was dark
@@davidaston5773 This is technically (I mean... "legally") imposible.
-> IF there is video of it (Doctor Who), it must be from the B.B.C. [at that point, it makes no sense for them to have "Big Finish" writting any of it].
The only reason they are even allowing non_BBC AUDIO to be done, is because of all the "Grandfathering" they already did (pasively, not by an actual choice) for all of those people who took the effort of recording the (audio) of the tv transmissions live [40+ years ago]; back when it was REALLY expensive to use your hard earned money on making "a copy" of sounds coming from your house´s tv [video recording was "posible", but totally unpractical for aficionados].
@@adolfodef I see where you're coming from but I also think the BBC should be expanding Doctor Who as a product.
It's a waste of so much potential otherwise.
It would also be way to regain the viewers the show has lost and doing what Star Trek and Star Wars is doing.
A history and mythos as long and detailed as Doctor Who is being wasted and it doesn't have to be IMHO.
If it's a choice between getting Chris back onscreen, and Chris being happy and healthy, let him live his best life. We fans may be disappointed, but we all know how damaging it can be for someone to force themselves back into something their not really prepared for, mentally or physically. Better he enjoy was he has already done than have it tarnished by something that never quite worked because his heart and mind weren't really in it.
David Tennant as has RE- entered chat.
Explain, Mr @@Kevenough.
It’s an acting job not a war
the eternal fandom dilemma - wanting them to be happy but also wanting more content from them... but yeah, we have to remember celebrities/artists/actors are people too, they're not just content machines, their mental health comes before any projects no matter how wanted/beloved by fans it is (and a good fan cares about the human behind the art anyway)
He was my Doctor, and I am 62. The first Doctor I remember was Patrick Troughton, who was my Doctor until Christopher Ecclestone. The damaged 9th Doctor was the first one to poke into the darkness behind the lonely clown of the 2nd. The following Doctors and especially Matt Smith sometimes got the dark side shown, but only Ecclestone showed the character as someone in conflict between hope and the knowledge of what he had seen (and done). Oh, and pop poppet princess Billy Piper was immense. Which helped.
eccleston said if his doctor were to meet another, he'd want it to be Troughton's. even called out David Troughton to do it.
It's such a tragedy that the Doctor most traumatized by the destruction of Gallifrey wasn't there to see it fall no more. 9 will forever be my Doctor
I know efforts were made to involve him and he just didn’t want to, but this is still one of the biggest missed opportunities in Doctor Who history.
The day of the doctor completely rendered the whole of the 9th doctor pointless. No wonder he didnt want to take part.
@@re9279 No it didn't, the Doctor still remembers everything that happened before, trauma doesn't just disappear
@@re9279 Nine was defined by his post-Time War grief (Ten and Eleven to a lesser extent), and DotD would’ve allowed him to reconcile with it… that’s not “pointless”, that’s character development!
@@re9279 not if you follow it properly: Mcganns exit was to become the War Doctor, a Doctor that would do things no previous Doctor would do: destroy both the Daleks and Gallifrey to end the Time War.
The next incarnation is Eccleston: who because time “fixes itself” doesn’t allow him to remember the War Doctor (John Hurt makes a point of saying “ I don’t suppose I will remember any of this, will I?”).
So from Eccleston’s POV he ended the Time War unaware or possibly repressing the whole War Doctor incarnation until Clara and Matt Smith’s Doctor revisit that memory.
It’s not a 100% bullet prove explanation but goes a long way to validating 9.
I considered him the PTSD Doctor...in retrospect it was great place to start the new adventures and I don't think anyone else could have pulled it off as well
My favorite doctor. “Just for today, they all live!”
He was my first doctor (even though Tenant is my fav) and I always thought it was weird why he only did one season then I found out he wasn’t happy to return but never knew why. I wouldn’t be mad seeing him again on a 9th doctor adventure during that timeline exploring stories we hadn’t seen yet.
Lol I feel old now my 1st doctor was Jon Pertwee & especially Tom Baker lol 🤣
Eccleston was sooo good!! He and Billie were perfect together.
I missed most of the "old" doctors. Saw some eps with Tom Baker, whose presentation was okay. But Eccleston's working-class vibe appealed to me greatly, and I regretted his departure. My first sight of him was in his role on Cracker. His character's death was heart-breaking.
I haven’t seen any of the old ones prior Eccleston either
There was a lot more to the statement released by the BBC than Christopher Eccleston not wanting to find himself typecast. They also stated that he found the shooting schedule “gruelling”, and that was also another reason why he left the role. And again, this was untrue. Another claim that he has made concerns the BBC effectively blacklisting him after he left the role of The Doctor.
Even after the half-hearted apology that the BBC made, Christopher Eccleston was still treated very very badly by the corporation and it is really no surprise that he still bears a grudge towards them. He was a fantastic Doctor and when I heard he was taking on the role I knew that the BBC were treating the revival seriously. It was a terrible shame we never got to see a second or third season with the Ninth Doctor, but frankly one season is better than none. And I seriously hope he considers appearing in the 60th Anniversary Special. Because it won’t be quite the same without him.
He had such range as an actor
Eccleston and Piper
Rocked 😎
Best Doctor Who, hands down. It was a shame his run was so short.
Seeing Judi Dench as the Doctor would have been REALLY COOL given how awesome she was as M
"Don't you think she looks tired?" Was a troll on what they did to him.
Of all the new Doctors Eccelston was my favorite from the get go. The show would not have made it without him and with his great connection with Billie Pipper and her mom and Mickey all combined to create a great support cast. And not to be forgotten but Captain Jack added his humor to the growing crew. I was very upset when they brought in David Tennant, but in time he grew on me.
David Tennant is my fave doctor, but the older I get, the more appreciation I have for Eccleston and wish there were more episodes of his doctor. For people like me, Doctor Who was a bit of a joke, just a campy old tv show with terrible effects (that was my ignorance, classic Who was a lot more than that), Eccleston made the character real, someone to route for, someone to get angry with but still love, someone who was full of trauma but knew when to dance.
aw man this description of him is gonna make me cry🥺
I was 2 years old when doctor who was revived. While David Tennant was the one I grew up most watching, I remember Ecclestone a bit. Im 19 now, and rewatching his doctor, I really wished we saw more of him.
I remember learning Dr Who was back, watched every episode of that first season. Living in Australia I didn’t hear the news of his departure, just felt sad as I’d liked him in the role and would have liked to see more than that one season.
There can be no doubt that, at least in U.S., Eccelston brought back the fans. He had a great year, and it's too bad y'all couldn't keep him
I've been doing a rewatch of the NuWho & really wish Chris Eccelston could have had a 2nd season. That first season was just so fantastic. He & Billy Piper had great chemistry & we got our introduction to John Barrowman's Captain Jack who also paired well with Eccelston's Doctor. I was surprised how memorable that season was for me on rewatch considering it's been ...15 years? since it originally aired & many seasons came after ( I stopped watching after Capaldi's 2nd season I think) Many of season one's eps were stand outs & rewatching it was such a pleasure. Sad to hear it wasn't a good experience for Eccelston considering how much I enjoyed his portrayal of The Doctor.
When I first saw Eccleston as the Doctor I didn't think I would like him. But by the time he left I was sorry to see him go. It's a shame he's not open to coming back for a multi-Doctor special, though. Some of my favourite Doctor moments come from his interactions with himself.
this is the exact evolution of my opinion on 9, i first saw the 60th anniversary specials and fell in love with the Doctor's character as 14 so i kinda just looked at 9 as the one season i had to get through before i could see a Doctor played by David Tennant again. now i'm nearing the end of series 1 and man i'm gonna miss 9 so much, he definitely grew on me (i use the word fantastic so much because of him lol, he really is fantastic!)
This is a good summary of the cryptic statements Eccleston has made, but I'd hoped from the title that you guys had new information or insight.
It is apparently a skillshare commercial wrapped in old gossip and clickbait title :-/ Time to unfollow this channel...
I hoped from the title it was some absurd April fools joke
The problem is not what you call “gossip”, but the problem is they literally stretched the video literally from the time the show was announced - Mr "@@SevenJetC".
Clearly, they wanted to have more ad-spots.
I'd love to see a sort of anthology series, with past Doctors like Chris Eccleston, Jo Martin, and Paul McGann reprising their turns as The Doctor in standalone adventures.
He is the best doctor of the revived series and everyone questions how I could think that when he has one season but Tennant and Smith got more, but God. I can’t explain it. He is The Doctor. The name that fits him as healer and scientist, experimenter and historian, aware of the old but absolutely loving and cherishing the new. I just can’t describe how much Eccleston touched me, from that first episode, til his last. God I love 9.
best doctor in my opinion greatest line that I use all the time " look at me I'm stupid" is a wonderful call to exposition
6:28 Oh look it’s Nardole 👀
Personally, it's because his Doctor wasn't like the others prior (looking at 5's cricket look, 6's technicolor coat...) that I gave his a chance. It's a shame his only lasted a season. Still, it was a great if brief run and set the course of the show to this day.
What's a “cricket look”?
I love Christopher. His doctor was amazing
I am curious to see what his second season would have looked liked
The better question is what would the Christmas special have been like. The second season was a story arc for the departure of Rose.
It's great that there's a long form video about Eccelstons departure. I'm glad more details have surfaced over the years. Also you're really pretty wow.
Although since it was ‘revived’ when Christopher came along. He and Tennant was my favorite. It’s a shame things didn’t quite work out with behind of scenes of doctor who. I wish he was around just a bit longer and seems like a decent person.
He’s the best Doctor in my eyes.
Definitely my favourite doctor
The interesting thing is he really opened up about his backstory as a person since leaving the program. A lot of the people criticising him back in the mid 2000s probably changed their opinion of him now. And especially the no holds barred way he's been talking this week.
That bit round 12:00 made me a bit teary actually.
Eccleston as Matt Jamison is unforgettable. Great performance.
Where?
I would love to see him back in the role. That would be awesome.
I was sad when he left the role, but i understand why he quit. But at least he came back as the 9th Doctor in the Audio Drama side of the Doctor Who Universe/Franchise.
The first film I saw Eccleston in was Shallow Grave. My shins still hurt thinking about that movie.
He was and always shall be the best doctor! And I was around for the majority of all doctor who's well until the latest doctor never seen her episodes and never will !
the series 1 set was ripe with sexual harrassment with john barrowman, noel clarke, and bruno langley all being (accused) sex offenders. It’s clear that is the toxic environment he’s referring to, as he’s publicly stated his dislike of barrowman
Want to remind you that Noel Clarke might not be true
@@Meriysi hence (accused)
Eccleston was the perfect choice to play thr doctor in the reboot.
I know why a lot of people like John Hurt but they already had Paul Mcgann returning for a bit part so why wasn't he the war doctor. I just feel like it was a huge missed opportunity. On screen they "Don't talk" about the war doctor. Isn't that how Paul Mcgann was treated in reality? Not so much him but I have heard people say "We don't talk about the movie"
I think it would have been poetic to redeem the 8th doctor rather than a previously unheard of incarnation.
Mainly because Moffat couldn’t see 8th doctor being the one involved in the time war and blowing up Gallifrey.
I believe the original script was that 9 was the War Doctor.
@@Lukecash2 yeah he wrote the script for 9 and of course, Eccleston said no.
I'm still gutted myself that McGann wasn't considered for the part of the War Doctor:
1. It's a 50th Anniversary Special - Please respect the lineage and make the most of the characters/incarnations you have.
2. 8's Big Finish Audios from 2005 to 2013 tried to sent 8 up to be the one that fought in the war.
3. People change during war as we know due to PTSD / adapting to the situation around them as many in history have done - to have the 'quintessential' Eighth Doctor become a soldier would be a fascinating idea to be realized.
4. The inclusion of the War Doctor created a massive separation between old and new who. I do not understand anyone who believes War was a good way to bridge the gap although Sir John Hurt was excellent.
Was really dissapointed that Chris was so badly treated by management. He really brought an energy and style that was equal to Tom Baker, Jon Pertwee not to discount some of the others. He and Billie really did draw us back to the dear Dr, his energy was absolutely fantastic and I was so dissapointed when he departed so quickly. Keep rocking the boat Chris we respect you.
He’s said that he won’t come back unless RTD and everyone involved with his departure are removed.
He’s always been a man of principle and I can’t see him changing his mind until that happens.
The video is called “The True Story Behind Christopher Ecclestons Doctor Who Exit” but it’s numbered.. why is it numbered? What are we counting?
Yeah that confused me too. I think they were showing the progression and are in the habit of numbering things.
I commented this above so I'll just copy and paste:
That's what WhatCulture does - numbers, top 10s. In this case the numbers are used to organise the timeline and break it up into digestible sections. Think of them like subheadings in an essay.
I just watched a interview with Christopher he said he will only return if Russell gets fired.
Yes, so I don’t think that he is over it
Rowan Atkins performance in the BBC spoof comic relief made him a legitimate doctor at least in my eyes he fit the role perfectly and if he was asked today I think he would do it and it would be fantastically awesome
I can see it with all the snide of Black Adder mixed in with the goofiness of Mr Bean. Atkinson would be a great Doctor... again. 😁
I’ve always said that he would be a great doctor lmao, I even made a poster on the doctor who subreddit about it
RA was amazing in the remake of the British Detective show. I wish that continued with new stories.
My favorite Dr.
How awesome would it be if Chris came back to be the 14th Doctor 😊 I know he probably wouldn't but a Whovian can dream
My dreams))) my dreams)))
Eccleston is my favourite Doctor of the revived series.
Yesterday I was watching Jon Pertwee first episode "Spearhead from Space" on Pluto Doctor Who channel. Realized it the same story of Christopher Eccleston first episode "Rose" as a part two to fighting the Nesting.
Two: noticed that the materialization circuit looks just like Doctor Brown's Flux Comparator and made me think 🤔 Peri Brown is really a regenerated Susan and Doctor Brown is the Doctor.
Besides Tom Baker and David Tennant Christopher Eccleston was very very good as the doctor
Eccleston probably didn't find Barrowman leaping around with his knob out as hilarious as RTD and the rest of the crew did.
We only had one season of Ecclestone, but three season's of Whittaker....there is simply no justice 😩
Not all Jodie's fault the writing arch was wrong.
@@danielueblacker9118 She's been absolutely terrible in the role, plays the character like a bad David Tennant impression, and delivers her lines like she's constantly out of breath.
And No Seasons On-Screen with Paul McGann...That's more InJustice!!!
Eccleson was the best for me, just had the right aura about him
He was a very good Doctor. I honestly didn't know most of that.
I'm still waiting to hear what the true story of Christopher Eccleston's Doctor Who exit was.
Speaking of multi-Doctor stories, Eccleston and Jodie Whittaker both acted in a National Theatre production of Antigone around 10 years ago. It's a strange 9th/future 13th Doctor meet-up but better than nothing!
The full play can be viewed on the 'National Theatre at home' streaming service (for a cost) and there are various clips on UA-cam.
I like what both of them did in Dr Who
He was a great Doctor. Tenant has been the best of new Who, but Eccleston was, to my tastes, far better than Matt Smith.
Ph yes i agree
Let him have his own show. Give him another little run. On one condition, be a part of a multi-Doctor story too.
Agreed.
"I'm the Doctor by the way. Nice to meet you Rose, now run for your life." That's my Doctor
I really hated that he was not in the 50th reunion Day of the Doctor. In many ways, he was a great Doctor. The "War Doctor" line seemed forced, not to take away from John Hurt's wonderful performance.
As an American I had no idea at first that Piper was in a pop band prior to Who.
She was a solo artist simply known as Billie, and poptastic in my opinion
@@kriss_b I saw a video. Not my thing but she seemed good at it.
Great actress. Terrible songs though! :P
would actually be amazing, and probably a wise decision to bring him back, to "softreboot" doctor who after that timeless child desaster, as well as a huge surprise to have an actor be an incarnation of the doctor twice. hasn't been done before and could turn things around.
My 2nd favourite doctor
He's in my top five for sure. Probably Smith, Tom Baker, Tennant, Capaldi, Eccleston.
Eccleston was a brilliant doctor! Couldn’t have imagined anyone better to bring back doctor who and who set the bar to who the docrtor was ❤ could not also imagine a more better side kick, Rose Piper! She is truely iconic and is my favourite sidekick! ❤ i wish he would come back for special episode with David Tenant and Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi and Michelle Gomez the 4 best actors! As well as Billie Piper and Catherine Tate ❤❤ but hey if Eccleston wants to come back on his own then YES! Do it! I would also LOVE that!❤❤
Actually, RTD DID consider Eccleston when he first started working on the reboot, but felt Eccleston would never even consider it. Eccleston himself was interested but was never asked which is why he emailed RTD to ask about being considered.
I theorize in an alternate reality actor (CHRISTOPHER ECCLESTON) his alternate self acted in three seasons, instead of acting in just the First Season.
Written by alternate reality showrunner, Tussell D Ravies!
I didn't know about Big Finish! Those series gave me *my* Doctor, Eight.
He was a great doctor-so sorry he left but I can't blame him
Well done, thank you.
My fav doctor by far. Took a few episodes to sink in though.
Seems like he just doesn't want the limelight stolen from him in a multi doctor story rather than it wouldn't work
Doctor who is England’s Superman. He will never go away forever
Imagine for the 60th that Jodie regenerated into Ecclestone for 3 episodes then he regenerated into Tennant for 3 episodes again… that would’ve been insane. That’s how they could’ve got him back on his own
Na, its already bad enough to see one Doctor talked down to.
Run!
He's right tho, The Ninth Doctor was too phenemonal to be in The Day of the Doctor and have his story reduced like that.
The eighth, ninth and time war era doctors need an animated series that uses computer generated cell shaded style, similar to the What If…? series on Disney plus.
Since the doctor’s timeline isn’t linear, switching between doctors shouldn’t be a huge deal.
He further went on to say that in order for him to return to Doctor Who, The BBC would have to sack RTD, Julie Gardner, Jane Tranter, and Phil Collinson
I'm guessing the BBC thought tenant wasn't the best anchorman for the job, Chris did his magic and hey presto ..
I if it had flopped, Tenant could be used else were and Chis would have got the blame .
what I learned from being on the internet for a while is that PR teams are horrible at their job.
I wish he'd reconsider and come back at least for 60th. I can understand his anger but it was a long time ago..
If it doesn’t happen during RTD2, then it never will. Hell, Russell should just give him a spinoff show. I can dream 😂
Does everything have to be a numbered list even if, as in this case, putting numbers up is fucking nuts because your title suggests some sort of considered narrative?
Yes, that's what WhatCulture does - numbers, top 10s. This is still very much a considered narrative, with numbers used to organise the timeline and break it up into digestible sections. Think of them like subheadings in an essay.
Eccleston was both the darkest and the silliest Doctor of them all
1st confuses me 2nd chooses flight 3rd chooses fight 4th is pretty cool 5th had a cool regen 6th was arrogant Willy Wonka 7th was a devious dude 8th same as 5th War is deep 9th embodies that 10th is pretty cool 11th is 2nd but no flight 12th is literally 3rd but taller 13th is a lady 14th is 10th.
I really enjoy the 9th doctor.
I hope we see him again and maybe change his mind about multi doctor stories.
Stephen Moffat was apparently the first person ever writing for The Doctor to *notice* that the phone on The TARDIS *never RINGS* ….
The true story is that he was disgusted by the degenerate onset behaviour of John Barrowman and Noel Clarke, complained about it, and was told to keep quiet by the producer. He quit and was blacklisted by the BBC who always stand by the likes of Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris.
While I think you're spot on with the first bit - I don't see any evidence that Eccleston was blacklisted by the BBC. He's since gone on to work with them numerous times on stuff like the A Word, the Borrowers, Lennon Naked and more recently the Big Finish audio dramas
That is just speculation not fact so don't spread lies. Eccleston hasn't Specifically said why he left besides disagreements with people at the bbc.
I think since Russell T Davies is the showrunner again it’s now even less likely Eccleston comes back
I started watching Dr who in 2011. In the US , I watched on BBC America. Every Christmas through New Years, was a Dr Who marathon. Having only seen from 2005 on, Eccelston is my LEAST favorite. Tennant, Smith, Capaldi, Whitaker all had a playful side. I just thought Eccelston was playing the role too serious. I could be wrong. I love the show. I love the mindbending ideas. But it also makes me laugh and smile. For me, Eccelston falls short.
I think sometimes actors and producers just aren’t a good fit. It was clearly just a case where he didn’t trust what RTD was doing, and the relationship then just broke down. I’m sure both parties tried to move on but he took offense to how he was depicted as leaving.
If the David Tennant era wasn’t an unqualified success his criticisms of the RTD era would probably have more merit with the wider public.
As it stands, I still hope fences can be mended (largely because he was SUCHHHH a perfect reboot doctor and his one season is still great)
Besides, RTD wasn’t on Doctor who for 12 years and he didn’t come back then either. The day of the Doctor was basically perfect for him and that was just Moffat
The attribution that did most damage wasn’t the fear of type casting but he was tired. This would have directly cost him casting considerations. There is more to it though. He is an actors actor and probably was aware of the toxicity of the environment as we now know existed. Also some of the scripts were abysmal. World War 3 and Aliens of London especially.
I'm more confused than I was before watching this.
When asked about why he did the audio episodes, he said "it's lockdown, and I need to pay bills" altho he was a great doctor, his attitude stinks.
Everybody knows why he left. Him and the writers bumped heads and he wanted to the only doctor. (In other words no meta crisis doctor or clone doctor or doctor Donna)
But he was one of the best doctors!
The behind the scenes was crap. The bosses treated the actors like garbage.
What if we're getting trolled and he is in the 60th
Mate, I’m in the 60th. That’s all you need to know.
@@RaggedyDoctor11 best doctor
Good and informative video, but I have to mention that the listicle format is pointless and distracting. Video would be vastly improved by simply cutting out the "number X" parts completely.
Eccleston was fine but his time as the Doctor is done. You typically don't get solo TV series outings of past Doctors. Although if anyone deserved a limited series it would be the 8th Doctor where we only ever got a single mediocre movie.