4 Ways to Break the Character Design Rules
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- I’ve given out a fair share of neatly packaged Character Design tips in the past, but I thought it might be nice to look at a few concepts that break the rules, or at least, act as exceptions to commonly cited advice. Even advice I’ve given.
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One of the things I enjoy about world building and character design, is that both concepts have the ability to inspire and build off of one another. Sometimes the world can flesh out a character's personality, sometimes a character can inspire a new place or area within the world.
I love it when one idea leads to another, it’s so fun.
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For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
“ John 3:16-21 (NIV)
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If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.
“ Romans 10:9-10 (NIV)
I used to follow the "disney" rule of Ugly being design shorthand for Evil and Beautiful being shorthand for Good.
Ditching that sentiment was the best choice I could have ever made.
Even Disney has broken that rule on occasion, how good a person looks doesn’t necessarily dictate how they’ll act. In Hunchback of Notre Dame, Quasimotto (dunno if the spelling is correct, whoops lol) looks ugly, but is a really nice person, while Judge Frollo looks like you’re average, older religious guy and he turns out to be an awful person. Also in Beauty and The Beast, where The Beast turns out to be a good guy that just needed to learn a lesson while Gaston, who is considered the most handsome, manliest guy in town is being a jerk.
At the time, I didn’t know about the “character trio” thing where 1 character is round, the other one is more rectangular and the last one is sharper. I really couldn’t build good characters before learning the “character = certain shape = personality (sometimes)” trend, but now that I learnt it, I am much happier and my characters don’t look like a 6 year old’s drawings
One of the main characters in my story I'm working on, I realized that she has a trait that was very similar to Rey from the Star Wars sequels. She's an orphan who's mother suddenly disappeared within one night, and she has no idea why. She spends a good portion of the arc waiting within the city she was abandoned in, hoping that her mother will return. On paper, quite similar! However,
The identity of Rey's parents are a constant point of focus, and the story is focused on how much she is defined by them, and who they are (or aren't, in TLJ). I was wondering about what should actually have happened to the character's mother, because I hadn't really decided yet!
She ends up growing up as a street urchin in a busy city. She has to grow up without ever knowing why her mother went missing, holding onto a hope that she'd come back to find her. She's in denial about the situation she's in, because deep down, it's hard for her to imagine which possibility might be worse: That her mother was taken away and killed, or that she left her, completely out of the blue. It instills into two very important character flaws: She has very deep self-esteem issues, terrified of the idea that she's nothing. That she's not wanted. It makes her ultimate goal, to achieve importance in society and rise up from her remarkably poor upbringing. It also leads her to subconsciously seek out a maternal figure to fill that hole she has, something that will lead to her downfall, when finds that figure in a woman that she should not, and family within places she shouldn't.
So, I asked myself again, what happened to her mother? Where is her father? And it's simply not going to be a plot point. She is shaped into the person she becomes because of their absence, and the terrible uncertainty of why she was left alone. What happened to her mother will likely never be answered, even to just the reader, because the uncertainty of why they're gone is so much more crucial then where they went.
The aimless iteration point is such a callout for me tbh, I find it's easy for me to think that if I iterate lots of times, surely it is doing the development of the design a service instead of it really being me noodling around an idea and not rly making decisions.
Awesome work as always brookes!!
Nuance and balance are definitely important. I am a huge fan of refinement and minimalism when it comes to quality art - but sometimes maximilism is what I want to make, and it's easy to overblow the scope. But as long as I remember the principles that I employ in my other art, making a big fancy project can still work.
I love hearing how to apply "textbook advice" under real-world conditions! This is a bit tangential, but I had to change my mindset before I realized how useful master-studies and style -breakdowns were. It felt like "cheating" or "plagiarism" to do it, but now I realize that it's more about understanding how other people solved their problems before trying to do so yourself. And it was fun to better understand why my favorite pieces worked so well.
One thing that I'll do regularly that I've been told is bad practice is cut apart some of my iteration sketches and Frankenstein them back together to see if I get anything interesting? It's led to some really interesting shape language that helps me push out of my comfort zone and more predictable silhouettes.
I dont see a problem with that, good solution!
Aibo are the creatures ever, and i do the aimless iteration a lot especially for some characters i do find myself throwing things at the wall and hoping it sticks hopefully future me will take your advice and apply it in the future
Been designing a ground sloth archivist character for my group's next campaign, and this is really helpful. The iterations trap has been a problem, but I think I'm getting close to what he should be
Designing the characters and dreaming up their world is my favorite part of creating things! I need to work more on actually putting that design onto paper and setting the world up, though. Haha.
I'm more of a writer than a comic artist but drawing the characters and their turn arounds are still really helpful for even a work that is 100% words. Having the image next to you as you're writing about the characters allows you to visualize them better and go into more depth describing them or what they're doing.
Loved the suggestion at 5:37. In my course we've just started studying shape and silhouette for character design, and I couldn't quite explain why I was not enjoying the exercises we were doing, otther than "it feels like too much brainstorming". This segment put it into words perfectly. It felt uncohesive and like my ideas were running away from each other. We probably need that brainstorming to learn at the moment, but now I know what to do further down the line. Great video as always
7:08 is such a good tip cause most artists focus on the design and not the characters
Thank you for these. I’m always happy when you upload a new video. They’re entertaining, and i learn something.
Worldbuilding and iterating can both be endless rabbitholes. Very fun rabbitholes though. Rabbitholes I absolutely love to dig deeper and deeper into. Sadly all that digging can feel rather unrewarding and unproductive if my webcomic stays stuck on page 4.
It's been awhile since your videos got recommended, perfect timing since I am working on a personal project of making my first two OCs.
so glad it was recommended!
I always love when u post a vid and i hope ur doing well :)
I think I get caught in the endless worldbuilding and iteration feedback loops. I often see how effortless others seem to connect some seemingly meaningless detail into an important point of the story, and I want to know that stuff about the characters before I commit anything to the page. I end up spending so much time on that, and forget to just get started.
I have the strange feeling #4 is hitting me far more than I'd like to admit.
I'm currently tackling some character design this week and so this is such a serendipitous video posted
Barbosa "They're more like guidelines."
Don't get lost in the sauce to the point you turn your lasagna into pasta soup!
The last piece of advice ... o-o (eldritch horror)
xD I feel like I understand what you're trying to say but at the same I can't even fathom what it is exactly.
I always appreciate your videos! You’re a real inspiration for me, and I really appreciate what you have to say!
Nice Work Bro Enjoy Your Day And Art
This camera angle reminds me of those commercials when we're viewing from the refrigerator 😝
What I like to do when designing characters is give them a specific aesthetic that not only looks good on them, but also reflects parts of that character, such as their personality, backstory, etc. I honestly have not seen any artists give this advice before, which is surprising, because I believe that it helps a tremendous amount with character designing. Or at least it does for me, maybe I’m just speaking for myself right now.
Could explain if the fauna made off things how they are form and evo? Maybe the living clouds is how they form?
You're tips are so good! And your art is eye candy
Thank you so much!!
@@CharacterDesignForge no problem ^^
Thank you so so so much!!! Your videos are very useful ❤
You're so welcome!
I can’t help that every time I make a character, I barely change it from the original because I like it so much. Of course I usually add a few things, but I never ever make any major changes. Is this a bad thing?
How do u know my struggles and make a video on it in the same day?
Jokes aside thx man big help, btw can you make a video about character cheats like mickey's/spinel's hair/ears ,what in the industry would be allowed and what will be seen as lack of volume and 3d space
Design tip I follow, if it works it works 😂
Nice!!! Love your videos keep it up
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lol I've definitely been playing too much Zelda cause my immediate thought with the glowing horns on the Aibos reminded me of the Dondon 😂
On your first tip, a common corollary to the advice "don't get bogged down in world building" is "world building should serve the story". World building isn't BAD. Even having a lot of it. Where people run into problems is world building for its own sake without purpose - this is where weighty cruft begins to accumulate. If world building serves the story, it's hard for it to become a detriment.
This dovetails with character design - where "design is the story". An inexperienced designer might spend time coming up with a list of things a fictional creature likes and dislikes or fictional words they use - which don't actually inform about the character! Just random attributes assigned to the design without purpose and revealing nothing ABOUT the design! Details that do not "tell a story".
Don't be afraid to world build when doing so tells a story about a character - this is how you end up with unique and non-derivative characters. A good example is the character of Omni-Man from the comic / animated series Invincible. Omni-Man, on the surface, is a purposefully generic reference to the Superman archetype. Even his name is as generic as possible! But why is he a good character design if he's so generic? Because of deep world building around him which serves the bigger story and tells a story about him. It makes him unique and all of it is essential in describing who and what he is - so none of it is cruft. (It would be a big spoiler to detail why he is not as generic as he first appears.)
I just draw characters without really putting much thought into it. Feel hard to understand though. It is cool seeing some stuffs you made though. Not sure how to really put this into my practice?
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Good luck with your flu! Being sick ain't fun at all
Well good job, now you've created a whole bunch of new rules people need to break
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