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Razor Sx500 Fork Upgrade - Mototec Forks!
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2022
- hope you guys enjoyed the upgrade to the sx! i love this little bike. stay tuned for the brakes and tire video coming soon! if you have any questions or i missed anything let me know!
parts list - (buy the fork tubes while you can, those are the hardest to come by!) *edit, grab froks and triple tree from Bombmoto b1 parts page!
triple clamp assembly and stiffer fork tubes from a bombmoto b1- bombmoto.com/c...
right fork - mototecusa.com...
left fork - mototecusa.com...
top triple clamp - mototecusa.com...
bottom triple clamp - mototecusa.com...
bar risers(x2) - mototecusa.com...
15mm axle w/ spacers 220mm - www.amazon.com...
24mm o.d. 15mm i.d. spacer 23mm length - www.ebay.com/i...
Hardware required - ill put links to lowes to show you parts numbers for the washers and bolts.
⅝ washers (x4) - www.lowes.com/...
⅝ machine bushings (x2) - www.lowes.com/...
triple clamp bolts - (4)m8 1.25 x 25mm
bar clamp bolts - (4)m8 1.25 x 20mm
bar riser bolts - (2)m10 1.50 x 25
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Bikes-
72v mototec qs165
48v razor rsf650 etm kit
36v sx500 stock
Guys! New source for forks and triple tree! And the forks are way stiffer and silver!
bombmoto.com/collections/b1-parts
could u use ride or die bushing kit?
@rupertvfx absolutely, it all does the same thing just different methods!
Thank you for such a detailed explanation how to do the front fork.
No problem! Thanks for watching!
Really appreciate how in depth you go here with the parts list you scavenged for. It was tight to bring up the electro and co front kit to, I was wondering what the differences might’ve been
Hell yeah thank you! I definitely try to show other options aswell, i know not everyone wants to go the diy route so its nice to be able to lead people to plug and play set ups too!
Def gonna get these for my sx500. Thanks for the very detailed tutorial!
No problem! Thanks for watching youll definitely love the upgrade 😁🤘
Thanks Brandon! Saved me a ton of money and absolutely amazing set up !
Yo! Glad i could help! Appreciate you!
@@EmxBrandon been suggesting everyone to come check out your video and do this set up ! Can't imagine you can get a better set of forks for less money !
Thank you so much!
@@EmxBrandonThank you Brandon, ran this set up well over a year and its been great!
@@SnailGs hell yeah! That's awesome to hear!
Dang! The projects keep coming!
I need to do n this on my sx asap
100% worth it!
Thinking about doing this fork for my son and running my spare front wheel on his mx650 with mototec front hydro brakes from the site 🤔
Night and day difference! Just remember to order a 255mm length 15mm axle if you copy my method, since the mx headtube is longer than the sx!
Thanks
No problem!
@@EmxBrandon the sx500 is better to build than the mx650 ?
@orif3088 the sx has more battery room due to shock placement, but the mx650 has a stronger shock hoop on the swing arm. But honestly its all about preference.
@@EmxBrandon ohh okay thanks a lot appreciate it
i have the mx500 and i don’t know if that long 220mm bolt will fit my stem how can i find one the right size ?
Correct youll need a 255mm long axle bolt! Just type that in on ebay or Amazon
@EmxBrandon Have you tried the Ride or Die fork kit? I'm just curious about the difference in height/length and stiffness... The Mototec upgrade would cost me around $230 with some nice bar clamps and the Ride or Die kits are $325 but include the complete brake kit which is maybe $50 or so. So with prices pretty close, just curious about ride quality and height. Thoughts?
I havent had them before, but they are ebay forks and most likely very similar to the tdpro forks on my mototec. I believe they offer them in a bunch of lengths? The Mototec is 635mm i think, but the big difference is the fork tube is smaller on the mototec forks 39/42 and the r&d forks are the normal 45/48 so they are alot heavier. If you got good power i prefer more weight, plus they will be alot stiffer than the mototec. But if you want it for a street setup the mototec forks are cushy! I love my rsf650 with the mototec forks, its smooth as butter. Quality is gonna be about the same between them, but the r&d triple tree is alot beefier than the cast mototec triple clamps. If you ride hard id say go with the r&d, when you order through mototec they charge alot for shipping so the prices may end up the same anyways.
What is a better fork for trail ridding and bumps the mototec or say like fly pig forks or? What do you suggest broth3r
Trail riding you want softer suspension like the mototec, especially with how light the razors are once you start putting on 45/48mm forks they get very stiff which is terrible for trail riding. Definitely recommend the mototec forks if you can get ahold of them!
Good work bro !
Thanks brother!
How did you get the already stick on the forks off
I bought the triple clamps without the steer shaft. It needs to be pressed out or use a hammer and large socket. I'm assuming that's what your talking about?
nice work bro! 🙌🏼
Thanks brotha! Im excited to see what you got in the works!
Hello ,.. thanks for video,.👍. do you know if i buy this fork kit from E & C ,..will i need to still buy all these extra little parts from hardware store, Ebay, and such?
You wont need anything from the e&c kit. The difference is their selling the shorter fork tube, with a 12in wheel.
@@EmxBrandon ok cool thanks a lot for fast reply ,.. so the kit is little shorter ?, do you know what the length is ?
@hectornacho2474 they are the same forks as the mototec 36v 1000w bike and i believe they are 14in or 14.5in, one of those two
Great work🔥🔥🔥 keep it up👍
Thank you! Appreciate that
Where did you get the spacer for the front brake rotor?
It comes with the rotors you need to swap to hydros on a razor.
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hey i decided to go with the mototec and mod it like u so it can go 50mph but wats the weigh requirement? saw sum1 who said they weigh 185 but anything pass 200lbs will break it and im 5’10 206lbs (but i work at fedex so ima definitely burn sum calories)
Nah you wont break it. Id definitely say get a decent resr shock to replace the stock one and maybe look into some drop pegs. But im 5'9 185 and i beat the hell out of it an extra 20 pounds wont hurt it 🤘 the stock bike weights 95idh pounds and mine probably weights 125 130 now and everythings solid
@@EmxBrandon gud looks bro i swear u inspired me to do this shit gang much respect for letting me kno i aint too big for the bike 🤣
@@capolean2902 haha hell yeah bro! And nah theres plenty of bigger guys riding these bikes and razors all the time 🤘
What about the front brakes. Can you put them back on?
Brake video is right after this one!
Awesome video!! Thank you. Hey Would the rear shock in the motoec bolt up to the razor?
Yeah! I threw the stock mototec rear shock on the sx! I would definitely recommend buying bigger bolts and drilling the shock tabs bigger though. The stock razor shock bolts are pretty thin and the shock itself will have play! Otherwise it felt night and day compared to the stock razor suspension!
@@EmxBrandon Thanks man, You think it would be worth it to try and make the swingarm fit?
@Desert Rider its definitely been done before! You just have to move around the shock tabs on the razor frame otherwise the rear shock will bind and get stuck once its compressed enough. Hard to explain
So if upgrading my mototec to tdpro, all I need to purchase to upgrade my kids mx500 is the 15mm axle and the washers? Everyone wins 😂
Exactly! Youll have to get a 240mm long 15mm axle for the mx but if you combine the way i did my rsf and sx it should be a pretty cheap swap 🤘
Did you figure out the brake
Apologies ive been so focused on my buddys ssr build and trying to get that knocked out that ive pushed all my projects aside. I will get it figured out beginning of next week no matter what! I hate to leave you all with a half ass project!
No it’s cool I can figure it out lol
For sure message me on facebook or instagram if you need some help i can run you through my game plan if you need it 🤘
Is there a way to buy just the forks?
Not sure what ya mean. All these pieces i had to buy seperate. All the links are in the description 🤙
Awesome video. Does the mx650 also use a 15mm stem? 🤞
Yup! Youll just have to order a 255mm length instead of the 220mm i use for the sx
@@EmxBrandon thank you again. I happen to have one 255 and two 220's from other projects laying around.
@mino6466 no problem! And when you hit lowes for the washers check the brass collars for a bottom triple clamp spacer you might be able to use instead of that 24mm od 15mm id aluminum one on ebay. You might be able to save a couple bucks!
Checked Lowes, Home Depot and Ace for the 24x15 bushing. No luck so I'll buy on ebay. How long does it need to be? 24x15x??
Thanks again man!
@@mino6466 should say in the description i cant remember off the top of my head
do you have links to this fork ?
The links to all the pieces are in the description!
where can i buy the bottom triple tree clamp without the stem?
mototecusa.com/mototec-pro-dirt-bike-lower-triple-tree-clamp.html
@@EmxBrandon also what do we need the larger axle for is it for the wheels or the steer tube because i have an mx500 and am thinking we use the stock steer tube axle and then the new axle for the wheel
@skibidi269 the 15mm axle is for the steer tube. Since yours is a mx500 it will be longer. You won't be able to use the stock bolt since the triple clamps are much thicker than the steel plates the razors use. You'll need to figure out an adapter to adapt the holes of the mototec clamps to the size bolt youll need. I'm not sure if the crush tube inbetween the bearings of the sx500 headtube will accept a 15mm axle so if you go that route make sure it slides through and you get the correct size. I believe I used a 255mm long one for my rsf 650.
@@EmxBrandon so do you think the best route to go is buy the 255mm and 15mm axle first to see if it fits and if that fits it will work or is there something else that would need to fit as well?
@skibidi269 yeah I would buy the 15mm axle and worst case find a crush tube that will accept a 15mm inside diameter you can replace on the inside of the headtube. Check out my most recent video with the triple tree adapter youll see how it's supposed to work
Parts linked in description! This swap is only for the sx500, the 15mm axle is too short for a rsf650 or mx500/650. Check out my rsf fork swap video for details and you can combine both methods ua-cam.com/video/qRAJ_6bfbAw/v-deo.html
What size rear shock you running
Still the stock rear shock im not sure what size it is off the top of my head
@@EmxBrandon the stock is 200mm you should run a 220mm
@@mrsir777 ok cool deal, yeah ive had a couple people ask if the forks would go well with a 220mm shock and that sounds like the perfect length to level it out. Im thinking one of those dnm shock, cheap but seems like everyone loves them 🤔
@@EmxBrandon ya you just gotta get the right lb spring for your weight and they work well, im using the fastace brand.
@@mrsir777 ive heard that i want to double my weight and thats gonna be the appropriate spring weight whats your thoughts? Im pretty mechanically inclined but when it comes to suspension im clueless and honestly scared to pull the trigger on one. I especially need one for the mototec 😆
wow that way to much $$$$ 220.00
Pretty cheap for a front end! It would probably be closer to 350 for all of it!
I need to do n this on my sx asap