How is the Trek Rail trail-legal?

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  • Опубліковано 12 січ 2025

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  • @renebollengier1111
    @renebollengier1111 9 місяців тому +11

    I have a rail 7, the original version. At 67 I wouldn’t be on any trail without it. And I don’t go blowing past anyone on the trail, in fact it’s usually the other way around. I do use the walk mode if I have to push it up hill. I love this bike. Thanks for the video

    • @daytime12
      @daytime12 5 місяців тому +2

      I have the original rail 7 too... Love it... Especially going home after work at midnight in the snow.... Can't tell you how many times that motor has helped me get home. I run errands and grocery shop on that bike... it does it all...
      All the best to you. rene.

  • @CrushedEMTB
    @CrushedEMTB  Рік тому +4

    *Key moments*
    1:03 - How heavy is it?
    1:17 - Key differences between the Gen-2 & Gen-3 Rail Models
    1:59 - Components & features
    3:05 - 1st impressions of the Trek Rail 7
    4:36 - How efficient the battery on this E-bike?
    4:57 - Power modes, Eco, Tour, EMTB, Turbo
    5:13 - which modes were best for climbing
    6:05 - How well does it climb?
    6:33 - It’s most impressive feature
    7:07 - No more shuttling to the top!
    7:36 - Major flaws of the bike
    7:43 - Climbing issues
    8:46 - Downhill performance
    11:25 - Traditional vs E-MTBs
    11:57 - why they ban E-MTBs on certain trails

    13:42 - I crashed.

    14:32 - Why I wear full faced helmets for MTB
    15:24 - My conclusion on the Trek Rail 7

    17:23 - Trek Fuel Exe comparison

    • @danbob1650
      @danbob1650 3 місяці тому

      11:00 60 mph.. where on? class 1 tires good for that? 35.6 mph is my record in Scor 40/60Z 51 lbs..
      13:42 sucks bro ..I'm been down 2 months doc said 2 more months before another hit to the shoulder.
      Emtb makes up hill another up trail.

  • @jimsteinway695
    @jimsteinway695 10 місяців тому +11

    I didn’t want a motocross bike. So I got the Fuel EXe. Much more like a mountain bike. I’m 65 and I used to ride a Sworks stump jumper. I just can’t keep up with my son anymore, so this is a great compromise. I still have to work my ass off to ride with him .

    • @glennwadlegih1896
      @glennwadlegih1896 3 місяці тому +1

      I’m 63 and been riding for 35 years. I feel like I’ve earned my EXe8. I did 20 miles in Vermont last weekend 1400’ climbing. Used 70% of the battery. Mostly level 1 (100 watts) on the power and occasionally level 2(175 watts). It’s all I need and I hope it keeps me going till I’m 70.

    • @jimsteinway695
      @jimsteinway695 3 місяці тому +1

      @@glennwadlegih1896 it’s a great bike isn’t it?

  • @fredman1085
    @fredman1085 4 місяці тому +4

    I have to say, this might be the best review of the Trek Rail-7. I have that same bike and I love it. Except for the first few rides, I try to only ride in ECO mode because I'm one of those who do enjoy the work on climbs. However, at my age, and other reasons, I found I couldn't make the climbs any more, or if I did, I'd have extended rest periods between each one. For those kids who say, just train harder....wait until you're in your 60's. Just wait and then maybe you'll understand. Not all of us need e-bikes, I wish I didn't but I do. My choice.
    My disappointments
    1) The Bontrager rear wheel was a disappointment. I was 63 when I got the bike, weighed 227lbs and I popped 7 spokes in a year. Trek did warranty the wheel set but I ended up with a set of IBIS carbon wheels and they did make a huge difference and I haven't popped a spoke on them yet.
    2) I'm not a fan of the computer. It registers high on both speed and distance. I've measured it and it's 8 1/100ths off of each mile. Doesn't sound bad but at 10 miles, it's 8 tenths of a mile off, at 20 miles, it's off 1.6 miles, at 30 miles, it's off 2.4 miles. That's a lot for a nerd who likes to track these things.
    3) Being a long bike, it's kind of a killer making the tight switch back turns that are in the parks I ride. They're set up for hikers and bikes like my old 90's Litespeed hard tail, not a long wheel based/slack head tube bike. Oh well, it gives me skills training. Also, the assist cuts off as my speedo hits 19.4mph. All Bosche needed to do was give us the ability to enter a correct tire size/rotational distance for the rear wheel. But they cheaped out on the Rail-5/7 computers but kept the ability to turn on/off the non existent lighting system that comes on their city bikes.
    4) Lubing the chain can be a chore since you can't spin the chain backwards (because of the motor just won't do it) and it's 53lbs, too heavy to life one hand, spin the crank and oil. So I have a pully system in my shed that lifts the entire bike. works great!
    Likes
    1) The motor is fantastic. I usually only need ECO mode but Tour is next in line and can get me over most anything. It's easy to change on the fly. In ECO mode, I can ride 30 miles and not use 1/2 the battery. The only time I've run out was when I forgot to charge it after the last ride. When I ride with my wife, I don't even use power, on the flats, the bike doesn't really need assist and so I don't use it.
    2) I love 29 inch wheels. They roll over stuff I could do in my youth (40's) on my 26 inchers, but at my age, I prefer these hands down.
    3) The dropper seat post has changed my riding. I keep it lubed so it's always smooth action and it's great.
    4) The cockpit is perfect. Brakes are good, I love my bike.
    My modifications were 1) Carbon wheel set - Yeah!, 2) I spent some money bought a set of Fox Factory 38 forks. 1/2 price on last years model. My gosh their great, but....3) now my shock was over matched so I bought a Rockshox Rigid shock. These were expensive upgrades but while I thought the bike was ok before, now there's no comparison. The rougher the terrain, the better the suspension eats it up.
    The bikes is great to start but with these, non inexpensive upgrades, the bike is simply amazing now. I'm 65 now and I don't expect to ever need another bike again. Maybe a batter some years down the road but not a new bike.
    Sorry, this probably isn't what you wanted for comments but you mentioned some of this and I thought I'd add my two cents as well. Loved your video.

  • @GF-cb8rr
    @GF-cb8rr Рік тому +4

    Nice bike! ...The only performance items I would upgrade prior to a breakage would be the front damper on that Domain fork to a Charger 2.1, basically converting it to a converting it to a Zeb Ultimate Plus. I would also upgrade that rear shock to a inexpensive but quality coil setup, Marzocchi Bomber CR rear shock. That will give you a significant performance gain in suspension that's noticeable.

  • @douglaskaye1395
    @douglaskaye1395 3 місяці тому +4

    I ride a Trek Rail 9.8 gen 3, I have over 2,500 miles on it. I’m 72 at the Rail is awesome. Mine is fully built, FOX shocks front and rear, carbon rims, TRP’s, axs dropper, SRAM transmission etc. My videos are on YT. 72 and sending it.

  • @keith6872
    @keith6872 6 місяців тому +3

    I installed larger 38 tooth chain ring sprocket to reduce cadence on paved rail trails. I also use narrower gravel tires that work OK for most trail types. I have the Rail 5 with lighter 500mah battery...good for 30 miles in turbo mode. Love it !

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  6 місяців тому

      Good stuff!

    • @Sivart-508PIR
      @Sivart-508PIR 3 місяці тому

      E-bike motors are designed to perform at their best at higher cadences though. 80-90 rpms is optimal.

    • @keith6872
      @keith6872 3 місяці тому

      @@Sivart-508PIR the Bosch motor works verygood using larger 38 tooth chainring. And it still klimbs hills in lower gears with ease.

  • @joestella9181
    @joestella9181 10 місяців тому +8

    I’ve got a 2020 Rail 7 and love it! I still enjoy riding my regular Fuel EX but for faster, longer rides in a shorter amount of time? Rail 7 all the way. Enjoyed your video, keep up the good work 👍

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  6 місяців тому

      I don’t think I can ever go backwards into anything other than a full power ebike

  • @douglasyoung3992
    @douglasyoung3992 7 місяців тому +2

    I think your description of what an e mountain bike is and what to expect is the most filled with detail. My Trek rail 7 old stock is in route

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  6 місяців тому

      You’re going to love it!

  • @shnapshnapsheb
    @shnapshnapsheb Рік тому +5

    Nice looking spot! I guess you haven´t discovered walk mode on the bike yet. Walk button on the front side of the controller (opposite to the power button - press once), then hold the plus button down. Should help with those uphill walks, (also changing gear when off the bike if youŕe in a position where itś awkward to lift the rear wheel and/ or can´t crank the pedals). Happy rail adventures man !

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  Рік тому +2

      Thank you so much! It was such a pig to push that thing a Hill.

  • @nohemoglibin8677
    @nohemoglibin8677 2 місяці тому

    I think those Bontrager tires are rebranded Maxxis DHR II. I had my Rail parked next to my analog bike with Maxxis tires, and the tread pattern is identical.

  • @BikeRodeo
    @BikeRodeo Рік тому +2

    I rented one last weekend in Las Vegas. This bike shreds!

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  Рік тому +1

      Good trails up on Vegas? I'm 2h away.

    • @BikeRodeo
      @BikeRodeo Рік тому

      Excellent. Similar to STG. Not as good as Moab. Check out trail forks sometime.
      My buddies and I did 30 likes last Saturday in eMTB. It was my first time on a cheater bike. 😂 it was a blast!

  • @bobgamble5095
    @bobgamble5095 27 днів тому

    Excellent test and review. Thank you. I have a Rail 5 and it is a monster truck of a bike. Goes anywhere and climbs anything. I was looking at also getting a Fuel 7 EXe Have you done a similar review of it?

  • @JohnNNorgaard
    @JohnNNorgaard Рік тому +3

    I have that exact bike and it's a blast.

  • @growlith6969
    @growlith6969 Рік тому +3

    Where are you? This kind of looks like Colorado. Keep the power on downhill, I run turbo the whole time up and down. Nice being able to put a couple of pedals in right before a hit or just getting over the odd uphill hump and keeping your energy as you are bombing down. Doesn't really pull on the battery at all.

  • @fazer2747
    @fazer2747 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this review and your thoughts. Very insightful. I just ordered this bike yesterday and chose this over the Powerfly 4 and Rail 5 because it has the bigger battery and upgraded components. Where is this? The terrain varies so much.

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  Рік тому +1

      Arizona. You will love this bike!

  • @weekenddistractions
    @weekenddistractions 3 місяці тому

    Really nice practical review. I have yet to try an emtb, but at 66, I really want one. They are not 'allowed' on most trails here in AZ, but I'm starting not to care. Help on the climbs is what it is all about. Plus I want to try the sand like you showed--awesome.

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  3 місяці тому +2

      Nobody can really enforce it.

  • @TheBinLid
    @TheBinLid 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice video fella. Just bought one! Thanks

  • @a.lame.username.
    @a.lame.username. 9 місяців тому +2

    By now, you're probably in tune with the bike and have discovered that the geometry changes since 2010 are ALL GOOD!

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  8 місяців тому

      I have been extremely impressed

  • @malcolmbagley7068
    @malcolmbagley7068 Рік тому +3

    I think the Gen3 has some differences in geometry to the Gen2, from what I understand the Gen2 is better liked - I like mine but haven't ridden a Gen3.

    • @fredman1085
      @fredman1085 4 місяці тому

      @@malcolmbagley7068 The shop I bought my Gen-2 said the same thing about the 2 vs 3.

  • @BerserkerNick
    @BerserkerNick 5 місяців тому

    I have a 2022 rail 7, upgraded the rear shock to a fox evol 230x60, it increased the rear travel from 150 to 160, did a travel increase on the domain fork to 170 plus running 4 tokens, stamp 7 pedals, wolftooth 34t chainring, oneup edc, ergon seat, dmr grips, tanus armor in the tires, want to upgrade the brakes to sram maven ultimate soon

  • @wgnwheels333
    @wgnwheels333 Рік тому +2

    I love mine rail 7 best thing i did is put maxxis dhf dhr2 tyres on it

  • @goldenu2
    @goldenu2 2 місяці тому

    Looks like you’re riding in Red Rock? I ride there frequently.

  • @SWFlowseeker
    @SWFlowseeker Рік тому

    What camera mount is that? And how do you keep it from bouncing around?
    Thank u

  • @viperdemonz-jenkins
    @viperdemonz-jenkins 2 місяці тому

    AZ has some sick trails, same with CO, MT and WA.

  • @hdryden7652
    @hdryden7652 3 місяці тому

    What a great review!

  • @christophershin6592
    @christophershin6592 5 місяців тому

    Great review. Question: where are the rides in the video?? Looks like great terrain! Thanks!

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  5 місяців тому

      Lake Havasu and Williams, AZ

    • @christophershin6592
      @christophershin6592 5 місяців тому

      @@CrushedEMTB thank you! Any advice on long mostly (if not all) dirt fire trail and single track through good desert or woody areas with decent scenery?

  • @MP_Soundbox
    @MP_Soundbox 10 місяців тому

    Thoroughly enjoyable and informative! Thanks.

  • @forzer456
    @forzer456 Рік тому

    What made choose the trek rail 7? Did you do prior research or by chance came upon this bike? Would be interesting to hear your perspective as you come back to MTB after years away and the sports has drastically change.

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  Рік тому +1

      It was kind of a sparatic decision. I'll be covering it here pretty soon.

  • @eastcoastlife3547
    @eastcoastlife3547 Рік тому +1

    It’s alright.. I’ve test rode it. I have the new powerfly full suspension but honestly I do like the Bosch but I went with the Giant Trance and I got a ReignE+1 .. I got them cheaper and at a higher spec then what the rail 7 would’ve cost me.. and the Yamaha motor is solid. 👌

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  Рік тому

      Looks like a nice bike. Might try it next!

  • @scottdillard2002
    @scottdillard2002 Рік тому +5

    I have a gen 2 rail 7 and love it...

  • @scottdillard2002
    @scottdillard2002 Рік тому +2

    Good review, learn how to use walk mode makes pushing the bike a breeze... I didn't know how to work it myself at first...

  • @fplmickymars6554
    @fplmickymars6554 4 місяці тому

    Great job 👏

  • @Emtbtoday
    @Emtbtoday 11 місяців тому

    Same components as on my new 2023/24 cube action team just i have the knox 300 and all fox shocks the smart system has an update with 2 new settings for an Auto that alot of mtbers are usimg now instead of emtb and turbo oh and a sport taking it up to 7 settings atleast as im lead to believe? Lee Mccormack n that lot were testing it out from Bosch on the smart system im looking to change my led control for the purion 200 to go with my kiox 300

  • @johnborton4522
    @johnborton4522 3 місяці тому

    "If anything, it makes you work harder".
    Oh, now that's freakin' hilarious.

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  3 місяці тому

      I bet you if we paired off on the same e-bike, I’d smoke you.

    • @johnborton4522
      @johnborton4522 3 місяці тому

      @@CrushedEMTB Is this you saying you're in better shape than I am or your EMTB skills are better than mine? You would have to enlighten me as to what you mean before I would accept any sort of wager.

    • @johnborton4522
      @johnborton4522 2 місяці тому

      @@CrushedEMTB Your lack of answer makes it seem like you're not as confident in a wager as you brashly promised.

  • @Joseph_Brown1986
    @Joseph_Brown1986 Рік тому +3

    Bro at first I was like this guy sounds exactly like TBN!!! 😅

  • @robinbreeds9217
    @robinbreeds9217 9 місяців тому

    RockShox Domain do those forks lock out 100 percent ?

  • @Carl_Black
    @Carl_Black Рік тому +3

    Love my EMTB!

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  Рік тому

      I approve of this message

    • @Carl_Black
      @Carl_Black Рік тому

      @@CrushedEMTB if you find yourself in SoCal with your bike let me know we can hit up some trails.

  • @douglasfahlbusch7092
    @douglasfahlbusch7092 3 місяці тому +1

    Fuck this shit. my first 2 mtb's had cantis and zero suspension. FTW

  • @mustclime5311
    @mustclime5311 Рік тому +1

    THE BIG DIFFERANCE BETWEEN THE GEN 2 AND THE GEN 3 IS THE GEO!......The geo on the gen 2 is like 2017......you should try a modern bike some time.

  • @JDski
    @JDski 8 місяців тому

    I understand the point of not having a throttle, but there are times right before it falls over I bet
    you wished you had it.

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  7 місяців тому +1

      That’s where skill has to come in

  • @sd5458
    @sd5458 2 місяці тому

    To anyone who says "ebikes are cheating" to that I say: What's the prize for first place?

  • @jjwhite1733
    @jjwhite1733 3 місяці тому +1

    E-bikes are like fat skis. They make the un-skiable/un-rideable available to people who couldn't/wouldn't otherwise

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  3 місяці тому

      I bet I could smoke you on a regular bike.

    • @johnwhite8450
      @johnwhite8450 3 місяці тому

      I don't ride an E-bike. I ride for the exercise. I ski on carving skis in waist deep snow too.

    • @douglaskaye1395
      @douglaskaye1395 3 місяці тому

      Good for you I doubt anyone said riding uphill is the fun part. I ride both Trek Fuel EX analog and a Trek Rail both are fun, the ebike opens up a full day of riding in half the time.
      PS I’m 72

    • @jjwhite1733
      @jjwhite1733 3 місяці тому

      @@douglaskaye1395 Great! My original post wasn't meant as a jab at E-bike riders or fat-ski users, it's just a statement of fact.

    • @deleteduser3455
      @deleteduser3455 3 місяці тому

      They aren't just for that

  • @4ryanthomas
    @4ryanthomas Рік тому +1

    Good times!!

  • @TheSpookyFiles
    @TheSpookyFiles Рік тому +2

    I love my rail

    • @TheSpookyFiles
      @TheSpookyFiles Рік тому

      2021

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  Рік тому

      Was that the 1st year they came out?

    • @shnapshnapsheb
      @shnapshnapsheb Рік тому +1

      @@CrushedEMTB 2020. Very little changed in components and spec, except for the carbon models, which were the first bumped to the smart system (new wireless controllers and control board for the motor + new app) with the 750Wh battery. The longer battery changed the geo, making the bike less versatile/more polarising I understand. Then gen 3s came out with the later released 650Wh smart system compatible batteries for the alloy models

  • @markreed707
    @markreed707 2 місяці тому

    Flip your chip

  • @RobertAmine
    @RobertAmine 4 місяці тому

    bontrager is shit, broke the rear hub in 3months, swapped for afortus hope wheel and will never look bak,

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  4 місяці тому

      They have a pretty good warranty. Just get it repaired.

  • @aim102
    @aim102 Місяць тому

    I’m sick of hearing in the word cheating with EMTBs i’m not in a effing competition. I’m 57 years old had physical jobs my entire life and my body is worn out. Currently my job is on concrete and average around 20,000 steps a day. So if I wanna ride an E bike, I’m gonna ride an E bike. Plus it gives my wife and I something to do together for more than two minutes.😂😂 Stop arguing this point and just enjoy yourselves for God sake‘s.

  • @drmoynihan
    @drmoynihan 2 місяці тому

    I am 73yrs - AL FS in Oregon, CF FS in Thailand. No motorcycles.
    Yes - I am slower than my younger buddies when we do long climbs. But I love the peace and scenery and smell the lovely forests (Jungles in Thailand).
    I can understand the e-bikes when we were in Switzerland - don't have time for the long climbs after work. And the long family cross country e-bike trips with lots of climbs were understandable.
    But please - Obey the rules and what the signs clearly say. Stay off off the trails and quit blowing me away - you are just scary and rude.

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  2 місяці тому

      Yeah, no. The new bike area has no room for old heads, get over it.

    • @drmoynihan
      @drmoynihan 2 місяці тому

      LOL :)> ​@@CrushedEMTB

  • @mac16a
    @mac16a 5 місяців тому

    Rail 5 was one of the worst ebikes I've seen.

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  4 місяці тому

      Why?

    • @mac16a
      @mac16a 4 місяці тому

      @@CrushedEMTB because stock rear wheel was relying on cup and cone bearings with metal cage between balls. Some customers had to warranty claim their wheels twice during two year warranty period. Once you had play in the hub (often less than two months of riding) you couldn't remove play from the bearings for more than a week of riding. Most of the cheaper trek bikes with 9mm qr rear wheels had the hub seal designed to prevent fixing the wheel once the play occurs. The cone had a metal sealing cup over it, making it impossible to tighten the nut firmly enough. Again some customers had 3 different rear wheels installed in their bikes. It is beyond me how is this cost effective for the brand. Apart from wheels, it was pretty basic. Finally they stopped selling 5, new collection starts from 7.

  • @obxarms7685
    @obxarms7685 2 місяці тому

    Lazy bike

  • @bikerider4326
    @bikerider4326 4 місяці тому

    😂learn to ride?😂.

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  4 місяці тому

      I bet I would smoke you down the trail. Your avatar also looks like dog crap. Get a haircut.

    • @bikerider4326
      @bikerider4326 4 місяці тому

      @@CrushedEMTB ✌️😀✌️that’s because you prefer to RACE bikes and tend BREAK them a lot…. Where as I RIDE a bike Cross Country and always TAKE CARE of my ride. ( And I literally “smoke” when I’m riding, so that comment means nothing. ). Thank you for the compliment on my hair. Most men are threatened by its stunning texture. 🤪

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  4 місяці тому

      @@bikerider4326
      ua-cam.com/video/GFkaWKHLWBc/v-deo.html Watch this. If you think I still need to learn to ride after that, then oh well.

  • @TENNESSEETRACKHAWK
    @TENNESSEETRACKHAWK 8 місяців тому +3

    Wow an ebike with a 1500w motor smfh. What is the point of that? My Boxxbike is a complete mountain bike with rockshox front and rear with 14k watts of power. THAT is a REAL electric bike which can be run in pedal assist or throttle only. This is such a waste of money smh.

    • @CrushedEMTB
      @CrushedEMTB  8 місяців тому +2

      You say that until you ride it.

    • @TENNESSEETRACKHAWK
      @TENNESSEETRACKHAWK 8 місяців тому

      @@CrushedEMTB its slow bro . Its for old ladies who want to ride paved trails smh wtf is anyone gonna do with 1500 watts of power if ur not going down hill? smfh lame

    • @SolarizeYourLife
      @SolarizeYourLife 7 місяців тому +1

      It's an e-motorcycle...