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>2 tons shuttle goal: take things into orbit and return. >Built a giant ass rocket to take it to space to orbit a small satelitte. thats some NASA efficiency right there.
A1179125CE mite b cuz erth iz gervtenationerlly stronk ten kirben, ad erso erth lerger ten kirben, woo larb ver, mer dan bentimes larver translation: Might be because Earth is gravitationally stronger than Kerbin, and also Earth is larger than kerbin, way larger, more then 10x larger
@@pluransart1795 The Shuttle Program was a failure. It was much less safe than previous rockets since the crew were strapped to the side of the fuel tank rather than on top with ejection systems if the rocket malfunctioned, and it wasn't really reuseable as refurbishment basically required the reconstruction of the whole vehicle each mission.
God ive only had this game for 3 days, i just today got my first craft into orbit. I cant wait until im this good! Does anybody have dreams about KSP? This damn game has taken over my psyche! Lol
I agree but, I can tell you how to get to the mun VERY SMALL LANDER Incase in a fairing Two of the biggest tanks the mammoth Eight radial decouplers Two big tanks and a mammoth on each side Launch Go straight At 10 km go towards 45 degrees At 20 km you should point towards 45 degrees At 35 km stop and plot a maneuver to get into orbit Do the maneuver and decouple the eight mammoth engines Make a maneuver to get a mun encounter Do the maneuver Slow down into a mun orbit Decouple the last mammoth Pick a landing site Land Do science and celebrate Lift off and try to get a mun orbit Leave mun SOI Burn retro grade at apoapsis Land and deploy parachutes
funny you should say that im a new player and ive been brushing up on my rocket terminology and physics knowledge and i actually have been having dreams about correcting orbits hahaha! its got a steep learning curve but thats why its so fun
What is the point of the orbiter if you have to use such a big booster to get it most of the way to orbit? The orbiter only needed ~100m/s delta V to reach orbit. Get rid of the orbiter, and the booster may have been enough to put that tiny payload into the same orbit.
I agree, he should have used a fuel tank connected to the orbiter's engines, the entie point is to save money on expensive parts. although you couls say that the point is to have the flight manned for whatever reason, and make it land wherever you wished.
Incognito Burrito For that kind of payload, using a kerbodyne booster defeats the entire point of going ultramicro on the orbiter. You spend 17k on the booster alone, and it's not recoverable. For the cost of three of those launches, you can put together a low-tech SSTO that will deliver 1) a bigger payload 2) for only 2k funds (net) per launch. It's cute, to be sure, but alas kinda pointless.
Cornelius McMuffin do you use mods? get the mod called kerbal engineer redux, it will give you information about the craft in real time while building and in flight. getting something into orbit is easy, as a start, you need about 4000 ish m/s of delta v, less if you do it just right, so for a beginner maybe just shoot for about 4200 in total. start with a simple rocket, two stages, a big engine on the bottom and a fair amount of fuel, look at the numbers and you should probably have about less than half of your delta v in that stage for a small 2 stage rocket, something like 1500 ish, and the thrust to weight ratio should be around 1.5 to anything above that, just dont go below 1 or it wont move, and if you go too much higher youll just waste energy as speed you dont need in the atmosphere. shooting for around 2 for little rockets is ok. the second stage will have a lot more delta v and a much smaller but more effective engine, the terrier is a good choice, you dont need to worry about the twr (thrust to weight ratio) here as much, as long as you dont burn too late, since youll already be moving fast. about .8 is fine, but again it doesn't really matter, just experiment, it can be as high or as low as you like as long as you can fly it. after that, launch your craft, dont go over 500 ish m/s when below 10,000 meters or youll just waste energy fighting air resistance, and experiment with banking over. for a start, dont worry about anything but pressing d to bank and keeping everything in control. people will tell you 1000 different ways how to do your 'gravity turn' but the truth is it hardly matters, just experiment for what works best in the situation, sometimes controlled bank is best, but what i often do is a tiny bit of a bank and just turning 90 degrees over and just burning straight near apogee. as long as youre putting the energy in the right direction it will work. good luck, always experiment with new things, and dont think you just cant do it, these people are all the same as us, just played around more
Alexis Finch well, I "landed" a probe on the Mun (and by landed, I mean crashed), but it's still functional! Unfortunately I suck at big rockets/attaining orbit consistently/building aircraft that don't crash while on the runway/the game in general, so I'm too scared to send a Kerbal to the Mun as of now :( but yeah, googling has saved me multiple times
That's a good step. KSP is a game where lots of research goes a long way, but practice is still needed. If you want to test how well something lands on the moon, try launching it to 10,000 meters on kerbin above water and deploying a few drogue chutes. They won't cancel the velocity entirely but they'll simulate the low gravity environment of Mun. The over water part is just in case you mess up. If things start looking bad just deploy the real chute and they'll splash down safely. As for establishing orbit, I've always wanted to make some videos on that, but a text guide will suffice. 1. Burn up at full throttle until 5km or so. 2. Start turning towards the 90* mark. 3. Turn gradually so that you're 45 degrees from vertical at 40km altitude. 4. Once you reach this point open the map. Wait until your Apoapsis reaches 75km. 5. Create a navigation node for a prograde burn at the apoapsis, just drag it slowly and you'll see it end up in a circular orbit. 6. Time warp to when your ship exits the atmosphere. 7. Once the maneuver node is no more than 5 degrees from horizontal just aim for the maneuver node on the navball and just start burning your engines. 8. If you've done it right (keep in mind designing a good launch vehicle is the first step), then you'll be in an at least almost circular equatorial orbit. As for making large rockets, try to make them as simple as possible. One medium fuel tank, one medium engine, decoupler, huge fuel tank, huge engine, SRBs on the sides. And for making space planes. Just remember to put the center of lift just a tiny bit behind the center of mass, or else you'll have no control over it at all.
Alexis Finch Thanks! I've always been turning horizontal around 15km. And as for the spaceplanes, I messed around a bit in sandbox mode, and managed to get a Mk. III into the air. The only problem is I put the oxidizer at the front of the ship, so when I used the closedcycle mode on the RAPIERs, it flips over. I'm currently trying to balance it with extra tanks and messing with wing placements and such.
I definitely can see why you'd want to go for a space plane, they're pretty cool. But in my experience they require an exponentially higher amount of time and effort to design, not to mention are REALLY tricky. You''ll be building spaceplanes in due time, but try to master standard vertical launch rockets before moving into that field. A good benchmark is, say.. once you've landed on duna safely and returned. It's a tough challenge to start off with, and a good goal to aim for.
It looks like an interceptor, to be honest. (If you don't know what an interceptor is, it's a small combat aircraft, usually with small amounts of fuel, that is made to be very light, they usually had small machine guns made purely to destroy enemy bombers and then come back down.)
It bears a resemblance to the Komet, yeah. I might try making a micro-interceptor like this, but with a more powerful engine and having more maneuverability. Shouldn't be too hard..
Nice! I upscaled it and used different parts to make it a two seater on Enhanced Edition. Finally learned how to build a basic mini plane thanks to you, after two years 😂 took a while
Is anybody here good enough to get within 1 meter of their target in KSP? Like if you were trying to track down something you have already launched. Some people are pros and could if you think it is impossible.
That's a really cool build, and I fucking love the music lol. Edit: Wow, I checked right after posting that- would not have guessed that's all Kevin MacLeod, I've only heard his Dwarf Fortress stuff; damn he's a talented composer.
lightest orbital thing Ive made was 2.4x tons ;-; rip my skills... It DID have a small payload too tho so it wasnt tooo bad. Oh and I didnt use a booster, 2.4x tons for the whole launcher.
Awesome stuff! I like the intro, but the video even better. Nice music too. However I do kinda miss your voice, every video should contain your goodbye and at the very least 1 "AGAIN!"
Probably a dumb question but how do you build like that? Being able to move parts and subassemblies on a single axis and what not? I always have this weird and cringy part snapping that is super hard to nail down, especially on planes.
Question: If the airbrakes are the lids what if you're flying in the atmosphere then want to open the cargo? XD You'll slow down like you hit a brick wall but broke through...
Great editing! Got the video down to get the jist of your creation and it in action, but not too much editing with words all over the place. If I may humbly suggest, in this video, you're flaring your landings too soon. You WANT that velocity until the last 100ft, 50ft, 20ft, 10ft, 5ft, 1ft, touchdown! If you set a consistent clock, those numbers should be your approximate landing profile on each "tick" of the clock. Whether your "ticks" are 10sec, 5sec, 2sec, etc will be your judgement based on how quickly you're able to slow down. Keep up the good work!
Hello Shadow, this is a very nice work. I'm on a similar project : launch a payload using a less than 2 tons hypersonic drone. I now master the take off and climb phase, leaving the low atmosphere (38.000m) at 2.000m/s or Mach 6.3. But I can't find a solution to rise to 100km, deliver the payload and go back.
"Doesn't want to pitch." Yeah, I've found it's almost impossible to get anything in this game to pitch unless you get your balance Just So. Gotta remember real airplane balance--lift behind center of mass. Tail fins are supposed to produce NEGATIVE lift to hold the nose down until you want it to go up, so give them a tiny negative angle of attack, and put canards on the front with a bit of extra aoa...
While the shuttle was less than 2 tons, the booster added made it around 18.5 tons, so in my book that doesn't count as "less than 2 ton orbiter." Not to mention, you only needed around 150 m/s of delta v to circularize after you dropped the booster, and by removing the 2 ton shuttle (which is about 1/9th the total mass of the craft), you would most likely have an increase of 200 m/s delta v or more. And considering that doing so would eliminate the fuel costs of the shuttle (assuming full refund of the other parts from recovery) it would be more cost effective in career mode to just put the satellite directly onto the booster. So basically, short of looking cool, there doesn't seem to be any reason to do this.
I created a slightly larger yet still tiny shuttle using mk1 plane parts. While 90% of its dry mass is cargo bay and engines, it still manages to fit up to 6 passengers, using external command seats located below the payload in the cargo bay. It also looks like a mini version of the nasa spaceshuttle. So whats the catch you ask? Well, as it turns out, mk1 plane parts are garbage, snd provide no lift rating. Thus it flies like a brick... just like the nasa spaceshuttle... *chuckles*
You just solved my problem of a quick and small emergency pod which is able to land at most planets if dropped from orbit,THANKS My smallest design of a emergency system was a 18ton rocket which took too much space to be efficient on my interplanetary arch
I like the video but I really wish you narrated it and explained in more detail. Especially for such an advance game as KSP. That would be the reason I don't personally subscribe if I actually subscribed to channels that is. Which I don't.
I feel like even after you added more elevators and switched to Canards it still had horrible glide characteristics. That thing would barely make it a kilometer unpowered. Couldn't you have used the small rectangular wing parts instead of the M-Beams as a fuselage base for more lift and less weight?
IRL it would have budgetary constraints and the brass would say stuff like "what if Jeb stuck his hand out during reentry?" IRL this would have evolved into the STS, no matter what.
I feel this could be a lot lighter if you didn't try to make it look cool. EDIT: Oh, you basically just put into orbit with a normal rocket. Still cool, but much less impressive.
You know a standard propellers mods? Ye, build giant plane with them. i tried to make something similar to Dornier Do X, but on wheels. It was doable but i want to see your try. I dont have computer for this for now , sadly, as i work on laptop. I want to upgrade to standard computer as fast i can.
The content of the video is great, but the thumbnail and title were misleading and clickbait. I was expecting a SSTO type orbiter, not an extra step in delivering a payload in a traditional way. Sort of defeats the point, you know?
I think the asymmetric booster could have worked if you'd used an engine with gimbal to account for the CoM change. Maybe the Thud. The SRBs didn't seem necessary, either.
Thats a really cool shuttle design. Now I'm tempted to build an under 5-ton SSTO for experiments sake. Delta V does tend to scale with craft weight, after all.
My rocket needs to be at least over 10 tons just to be able to make it to orbit but then you could make an efficient 2 ton plane which could get to orbit and back, I don't even know how to return to KSC after flying to orbit. Because of your skills in ksp you earned a new sub
How to put that shuttle on a rocket? He first Made it in the spaceplane hangar and then it was connected to a rocket. It would be Nice if someone would help me because i want to put a rover on my rocket, but if i build it in the vab the steering gets messed up.
Hey, you made a error in the video ShadowZone. At 4:55 it says "To to deliever the payload" it should be "Time to" just wanted to give you a heads up of your mistake .
Do not understand whats the point of this "shuttle". Cheaper and more efficiently is to just add simplest tank with simplest engine to sat payload. And no need of that "2 tons shuttle orbiter"
The reason it didn’t want to pitch is because it’s entire lift body pitches to control pitch which is a terrible way to do it. Use a small delta wing and use control surfaces will work much better
i love the tiny science sat it makes me wanna make the smallest sat i can make that has all the experiments and manages to be effective. Just wish i had KSP and a good enough computer to run it.
Hey there. What's the name of the mod you used that indicates the true landing site after you re-enter the atmosphere? (that red cross on the map when you re-entry)
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In Polish SZ is reading as sh in American or English
can you input a link to download this plz
Atleast it works better then the real shuttle...
ShadowZone сделай ещё меньше самолёт.
can i have a download link or can u send me a the craft file via email
This thing looks like one of those $5.99 Lego sets.
Lol
@@vegasspaceprogram6623lol
Haha
Lol yeah
Lol
>2 tons shuttle goal: take things into orbit and return.
>Built a giant ass rocket to take it to space to orbit a small satelitte.
thats some NASA efficiency right there.
A1179125CE mite b cuz erth iz gervtenationerlly stronk ten kirben, ad erso erth lerger ten kirben, woo larb ver, mer dan bentimes larver
translation: Might be because Earth is gravitationally stronger than Kerbin, and also Earth is larger than kerbin, way larger, more then 10x larger
Is that why people think the shuttle program was a waste?
Kerbin's gravity is the same as earth, but not size. They both have a gravity of 9.8m/s
@@pluransart1795 The Shuttle Program was a failure. It was much less safe than previous rockets since the crew were strapped to the side of the fuel tank rather than on top with ejection systems if the rocket malfunctioned, and it wasn't really reuseable as refurbishment basically required the reconstruction of the whole vehicle each mission.
@@RookOfOnyx it worked tho.... it wasnt a waste.
not sure how comfortable I would be re-entering the atmosphere with my head sticking out of my craft...
But think of the amazing view!
Just close your eyes, you'll be fine.
That's where Kerbal Insurance comes in! Cheap, Splendid care, All you can ask for!
Nah, you will be fine. But before you enter the craft, may I see your insurance papers?
That’s because you’re not a Kerbal
when NASA gets budget cuts...
NASA is pretty foreign to this budget concept after the space race ended
Nasa don't have a budget tf you on
@@schwany6703 they have one but its pretty low
After Trump entered, Nasa got the biggest budget augmentation they ever got.
And they still dare to call him a bad president. What a joke.....
Why do people need to put politics into everything.
Terrific little shuttle- I love the use of the airbrakes as a cargo bay! Nice new profile picture, and intro too :)
Man, im going to use that as an SSTO. Not going to be easy.
can you top it hazard?
Didn't work.
albert cazares He already kind of did, and it went to Eeloo.
Lisa Green stop talking $#!7 as long as you cannot prove it. Make calculations, and present them being made in public.
Who thought it was an SSTO at the beginning?
GenesisPlayz Me, i'm disappointed it isn't a ssto but anyways it's still good.
Clonos me
It literally has shuttle in the name.
Me
@Ivan Vingradov got you fam
God ive only had this game for 3 days, i just today got my first craft into orbit. I cant wait until im this good!
Does anybody have dreams about KSP? This damn game has taken over my psyche! Lol
I agree but, I can tell you how to get to the mun
VERY SMALL LANDER Incase in a fairing
Two of the biggest tanks the mammoth
Eight radial decouplers
Two big tanks and a mammoth on each side
Launch
Go straight
At 10 km go towards 45 degrees
At 20 km you should point towards 45 degrees
At 35 km stop and plot a maneuver to get into orbit
Do the maneuver and decouple the eight mammoth engines
Make a maneuver to get a mun encounter
Do the maneuver
Slow down into a mun orbit
Decouple the last mammoth
Pick a landing site
Land
Do science and celebrate
Lift off and try to get a mun orbit
Leave mun SOI
Burn retro grade at apoapsis
Land and deploy parachutes
@@jamesthegreatbeast8171 boy mammoth for the mun? Just add 2 big fuel tanks for the terrier and soam reliant for a way easier mission
funny you should say that im a new player and ive been brushing up on my rocket terminology and physics knowledge and i actually have been having dreams about correcting orbits hahaha! its got a steep learning curve but thats why its so fun
I have managed to get to orbit now, still haven't gotten to minmus tho
@But_Its_Broken To where? Lko?
What is the point of the orbiter if you have to use such a big booster to get it most of the way to orbit? The orbiter only needed ~100m/s delta V to reach orbit. Get rid of the orbiter, and the booster may have been enough to put that tiny payload into the same orbit.
+Millitron Big booster? How small are the aircraft you've been making?
I agree, he should have used a fuel tank connected to the orbiter's engines, the entie point is to save money on expensive parts.
although you couls say that the point is to have the flight manned for whatever reason, and make it land wherever you wished.
Incognito Burrito For that kind of payload, using a kerbodyne booster defeats the entire point of going ultramicro on the orbiter.
You spend 17k on the booster alone, and it's not recoverable.
For the cost of three of those launches, you can put together a low-tech SSTO that will deliver 1) a bigger payload 2) for only 2k funds (net) per launch.
It's cute, to be sure, but alas kinda pointless.
Millitron because its FUN. dont forget this is a game in the end supposed to makes you have fun.
It wouldnt be as cool though!
What is this? A TINY SHADOWZONE CRAFT?!? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?!?!?!
Madness?? THIS IS KERBIN!!! *kick*
I wish I was good enough to build stuff like this
Then get gud damnit
i feelz ya bro
just open the game and start experimenting... thats it
Stef Morojna
I end up with a giant rocket engine with a spaceplanes cockpit and tiny wings. I can never get anything into orbit.
Cornelius McMuffin do you use mods? get the mod called kerbal engineer redux, it will give you information about the craft in real time while building and in flight. getting something into orbit is easy, as a start, you need about 4000 ish m/s of delta v, less if you do it just right, so for a beginner maybe just shoot for about 4200 in total. start with a simple rocket, two stages, a big engine on the bottom and a fair amount of fuel, look at the numbers and you should probably have about less than half of your delta v in that stage for a small 2 stage rocket, something like 1500 ish, and the thrust to weight ratio should be around 1.5 to anything above that, just dont go below 1 or it wont move, and if you go too much higher youll just waste energy as speed you dont need in the atmosphere. shooting for around 2 for little rockets is ok. the second stage will have a lot more delta v and a much smaller but more effective engine, the terrier is a good choice, you dont need to worry about the twr (thrust to weight ratio) here as much, as long as you dont burn too late, since youll already be moving fast. about .8 is fine, but again it doesn't really matter, just experiment, it can be as high or as low as you like as long as you can fly it. after that, launch your craft, dont go over 500 ish m/s when below 10,000 meters or youll just waste energy fighting air resistance, and experiment with banking over. for a start, dont worry about anything but pressing d to bank and keeping everything in control. people will tell you 1000 different ways how to do your 'gravity turn' but the truth is it hardly matters, just experiment for what works best in the situation, sometimes controlled bank is best, but what i often do is a tiny bit of a bank and just turning 90 degrees over and just burning straight near apogee. as long as youre putting the energy in the right direction it will work. good luck, always experiment with new things, and dont think you just cant do it, these people are all the same as us, just played around more
I absolutely love the design - how much dV would it have if you made an ion version of the shuttle?
It still is awesome, great job!
Mark Thrimm would need too much electricity but u gave me an idea !
Damn remember when ion sstos were possible and op, could get you to minmus with pretty much no design effort or testing
@@zawseh5969 I know I'm late but... Solar panels?
@@ssstjepannn even later but I think the problem would be lack of battery space, the command seat has none and adding batteries increases the weight
First video with the new intro. What do you think? Who recognizes the shape? ;)
isn't that the ozymandias? (can't guess which version but it's pretty recognizable)
ShadowZone: really like the video man :)
+Sashagamer614 indeed it is! Ozymandias VIII to be exact, the one that went to the outer planets.
the great ozy... sometimes i just rewatch the playlist
Microphone broken? :p
KSC also stands for Kennedy Space Center. ;)
Russia Illuminati confirned
Russia its ksp
Nope. KSC, not KSP. If you mean KSP then it must be Kerbal Space... what? Instead of center, what? you dont put program cuz thats the title.
Russia ты русский?
Not the name of the game, the name of the Space center. Where you launch all your rockets lol. KSC. Illuminati confirmed lol.
3:08 Ryanair Landing....
I see your profile pic is mad at a duck
This is discrimination
Lol the twin boar probably costed more than the shuttle though
Now. I MUST ONE UP YOU. I SHALL BUILD A LESS THAN ONE TON SSTO.
+ross seifer please do. Would love to see that :)
ShadowZone in ksp u can do anything
ShadowZone #sciencethesh!tourofthis
ross seifer
I have an idea. Use probe core with a cone on it, with tiny jet/rocket engine and solid fuel for getting to space.
The oddessy by Bill.
The littlest orbiter! Very cute, and actually usable! Nice job! And nice intro!
4:55 you put to two
What mods are you using for the atmosphere? looks nice
Ganjalf Der Grüne bump this I like the atmo mod used here as well, which one is it?
Guessing scatterer
And also some eve cloud pack
I just got KSP during the steam sale... SO EXCITED TO PLAY IT FINALLY!!!
Don't feel bad if you suck for the first 250 hours, that's normal. The solution is lots of googling.
Alexis Finch well, I "landed" a probe on the Mun (and by landed, I mean crashed), but it's still functional! Unfortunately I suck at big rockets/attaining orbit consistently/building aircraft that don't crash while on the runway/the game in general, so I'm too scared to send a Kerbal to the Mun as of now :( but yeah, googling has saved me multiple times
That's a good step. KSP is a game where lots of research goes a long way, but practice is still needed. If you want to test how well something lands on the moon, try launching it to 10,000 meters on kerbin above water and deploying a few drogue chutes. They won't cancel the velocity entirely but they'll simulate the low gravity environment of Mun. The over water part is just in case you mess up. If things start looking bad just deploy the real chute and they'll splash down safely.
As for establishing orbit, I've always wanted to make some videos on that, but a text guide will suffice.
1. Burn up at full throttle until 5km or so.
2. Start turning towards the 90* mark.
3. Turn gradually so that you're 45 degrees from vertical at 40km altitude.
4. Once you reach this point open the map. Wait until your Apoapsis reaches 75km.
5. Create a navigation node for a prograde burn at the apoapsis, just drag it slowly and you'll see it end up in a circular orbit.
6. Time warp to when your ship exits the atmosphere.
7. Once the maneuver node is no more than 5 degrees from horizontal just aim for the maneuver node on the navball and just start burning your engines.
8. If you've done it right (keep in mind designing a good launch vehicle is the first step), then you'll be in an at least almost circular equatorial orbit.
As for making large rockets, try to make them as simple as possible. One medium fuel tank, one medium engine, decoupler, huge fuel tank, huge engine, SRBs on the sides.
And for making space planes.
Just remember to put the center of lift just a tiny bit behind the center of mass, or else you'll have no control over it at all.
Alexis Finch Thanks! I've always been turning horizontal around 15km. And as for the spaceplanes, I messed around a bit in sandbox mode, and managed to get a Mk. III into the air. The only problem is I put the oxidizer at the front of the ship, so when I used the closedcycle mode on the RAPIERs, it flips over. I'm currently trying to balance it with extra tanks and messing with wing placements and such.
I definitely can see why you'd want to go for a space plane, they're pretty cool.
But in my experience they require an exponentially higher amount of time and effort to design, not to mention are REALLY tricky.
You''ll be building spaceplanes in due time, but try to master standard vertical launch rockets before moving into that field.
A good benchmark is, say.. once you've landed on duna safely and returned. It's a tough challenge to start off with, and a good goal to aim for.
make a rocket version, with the tanks and boosters and stuff!
EDIT: like, do a mission.
EDIT 2: nevermind.
EDIT 3: nevermind the nevermind!
edit 99: nevermind the nevermind of nevermind the nevermind nevermind the nevermind of nevermind the nevermind
The heck?
*_ELON MUSK WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION_*
That’s a cool concept design but I would say that the payload is to small for spotting it from Earth.
New profile pic? Nice!
4:59, I could watch this part all day
Shadow: creates shuttle under 3 tonnes to show skill.
Also Shadow: adds barometer to satellite.
Who else wants this as a toy?
Bro, you need more speed to land. It always stalls before landing and always Ryanair. Wondered why you airbraked just before landing.
It looks like an interceptor, to be honest. (If you don't know what an interceptor is, it's a small combat aircraft, usually with small amounts of fuel, that is made to be very light, they usually had small machine guns made purely to destroy enemy bombers and then come back down.)
It bears a resemblance to the Komet, yeah. I might try making a micro-interceptor like this, but with a more powerful engine and having more maneuverability. Shouldn't be too hard..
Nice! I upscaled it and used different parts to make it a two seater on Enhanced Edition. Finally learned how to build a basic mini plane thanks to you, after two years 😂 took a while
Is anybody here good enough to get within 1 meter of their target in KSP? Like if you were trying to track down something you have already launched. Some people are pros and could if you think it is impossible.
That's a really cool build, and I fucking love the music lol.
Edit: Wow, I checked right after posting that- would not have guessed that's all Kevin MacLeod, I've only heard his Dwarf Fortress stuff; damn he's a talented composer.
This was the first video I ever saw of KSP, and now I’m wanting to work at SpaceX when I get out of college!
Hmm... This is not space shuttle. The middle fuel tank haven't got eingine. This is like Buran- Energiya
New intro eh?
Wow, you used an airbrake as a door! Very clever. :)
This thing weigh less than my car And is mcuh more effective
Can’t you upload this to workshop?
I don't always subscribe, but when I do... it's for shit like this!
Whats the name of the mod you can see at 5:16? That red cross.
lightest orbital thing Ive made was 2.4x tons ;-; rip my skills... It DID have a small payload too tho so it wasnt tooo bad. Oh and I didnt use a booster, 2.4x tons for the whole launcher.
Awesome stuff! I like the intro, but the video even better. Nice music too. However I do kinda miss your voice, every video should contain your goodbye and at the very least 1 "AGAIN!"
Probably a dumb question but how do you build like that? Being able to move parts and subassemblies on a single axis and what not? I always have this weird and cringy part snapping that is super hard to nail down, especially on planes.
Question: If the airbrakes are the lids what if you're flying in the atmosphere then want to open the cargo? XD You'll slow down like you hit a brick wall but broke through...
Add an empty fuel tank to the micro shuttle to make it weigh less on kerbal but refuel in space at an orbital station
Great editing! Got the video down to get the jist of your creation and it in action, but not too much editing with words all over the place. If I may humbly suggest, in this video, you're flaring your landings too soon. You WANT that velocity until the last 100ft, 50ft, 20ft, 10ft, 5ft, 1ft, touchdown! If you set a consistent clock, those numbers should be your approximate landing profile on each "tick" of the clock. Whether your "ticks" are 10sec, 5sec, 2sec, etc will be your judgement based on how quickly you're able to slow down. Keep up the good work!
We must build it in reality!
I'll star the petition, WHO'S WITH ME
mine sweeper it wouldn’t be nice on the approach back rho
Hello Shadow, this is a very nice work. I'm on a similar project : launch a payload using a less than 2 tons hypersonic drone. I now master the take off and climb phase, leaving the low atmosphere (38.000m) at 2.000m/s or Mach 6.3. But I can't find a solution to rise to 100km, deliver the payload and go back.
omg its so cute
"Doesn't want to pitch." Yeah, I've found it's almost impossible to get anything in this game to pitch unless you get your balance Just So. Gotta remember real airplane balance--lift behind center of mass. Tail fins are supposed to produce NEGATIVE lift to hold the nose down until you want it to go up, so give them a tiny negative angle of attack, and put canards on the front with a bit of extra aoa...
that is awesome!
While the shuttle was less than 2 tons, the booster added made it around 18.5 tons, so in my book that doesn't count as "less than 2 ton orbiter."
Not to mention, you only needed around 150 m/s of delta v to circularize after you dropped the booster, and by removing the 2 ton shuttle (which is about 1/9th the total mass of the craft), you would most likely have an increase of 200 m/s delta v or more. And considering that doing so would eliminate the fuel costs of the shuttle (assuming full refund of the other parts from recovery) it would be more cost effective in career mode to just put the satellite directly onto the booster.
So basically, short of looking cool, there doesn't seem to be any reason to do this.
I created a slightly larger yet still tiny shuttle using mk1 plane parts. While 90% of its dry mass is cargo bay and engines, it still manages to fit up to 6 passengers, using external command seats located below the payload in the cargo bay. It also looks like a mini version of the nasa spaceshuttle. So whats the catch you ask? Well, as it turns out, mk1 plane parts are garbage, snd provide no lift rating. Thus it flies like a brick... just like the nasa spaceshuttle...
*chuckles*
Sure the craft itself is less than 2 tons, but it did NOT get into orbit less than 2 tons. FAAAAAILUUUUUURE!
What Mods are you using for the Atmosphere & the world it looks amazing
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You just solved my problem of a quick and small emergency pod which is able to land at most planets if dropped from orbit,THANKS
My smallest design of a emergency system was a 18ton rocket which took too much space to be efficient on my interplanetary arch
Wish I had the patience on console to do these intricate builds. This is great build mate. Did you plan it offline or that all organic?
This is like that guy who builds a whole model out of sprue clippings.
I also use SZ but as my discord name. When somebody cant say my name (SAY MY NAME) I tell them to call me SZ
I like the video but I really wish you narrated it and explained in more detail. Especially for such an advance game as KSP.
That would be the reason I don't personally subscribe if I actually subscribed to channels that is. Which I don't.
I feel like even after you added more elevators and switched to Canards it still had horrible glide characteristics. That thing would barely make it a kilometer unpowered. Couldn't you have used the small rectangular wing parts instead of the M-Beams as a fuselage base for more lift and less weight?
IRL it would have budgetary constraints and the brass would say stuff like "what if Jeb stuck his hand out during reentry?" IRL this would have evolved into the STS, no matter what.
That is actually cute as fuck! It reminds me of one of those 50 cent kiddie rides at the mall!
Eh... it reminds me more of a Me-163 Komet with the twin 30s replaced by a science pack
There's two kinds of people...
airplanemaster1 lol
hmm... yes, the floor here is made out of floor
Nice
Britain scientists in a nutshell
I feel this could be a lot lighter if you didn't try to make it look cool.
EDIT: Oh, you basically just put into orbit with a normal rocket. Still cool, but much less impressive.
You know a standard propellers mods? Ye, build giant plane with them. i tried to make something similar to Dornier Do X, but on wheels. It was doable but i want to see your try. I dont have computer for this for now , sadly, as i work on laptop. I want to upgrade to standard computer as fast i can.
The content of the video is great, but the thumbnail and title were misleading and clickbait. I was expecting a SSTO type orbiter, not an extra step in delivering a payload in a traditional way. Sort of defeats the point, you know?
but isn't 1 ton 2,500lbs? and your at 23,734lbs with just the aircraft not the rocket so it would be 11.867US tons or 10.59554UK tons??
I think the asymmetric booster could have worked if you'd used an engine with gimbal to account for the CoM change. Maybe the Thud. The SRBs didn't seem necessary, either.
Thats a really cool shuttle design. Now I'm tempted to build an under 5-ton SSTO for experiments sake. Delta V does tend to scale with craft weight, after all.
Brad whistance comes along and builds a 250 pound orbiter including the weight of bill Kerman and the payload
My rocket needs to be at least over 10 tons just to be able to make it to orbit but then you could make an efficient 2 ton plane which could get to orbit and back, I don't even know how to return to KSC after flying to orbit. Because of your skills in ksp you earned a new sub
is there a tutorial on UA-cam on building small ships that have lots of delta v? cuz I wanna build tiny ships
How to put that shuttle on a rocket? He first Made it in the spaceplane hangar and then it was connected to a rocket. It would be Nice if someone would help me because i want to put a rover on my rocket, but if i build it in the vab the steering gets messed up.
The shuttle-type design for the lift rocket would’ve worked if you docked the plane lower down the rocket.
Hey, you made a error in the video ShadowZone. At 4:55 it says "To to deliever the payload" it should be "Time to" just wanted to give you a heads up of your mistake .
Do not understand whats the point of this "shuttle". Cheaper and more efficiently is to just add simplest tank with simplest engine to sat payload. And no need of that "2 tons shuttle orbiter"
Can you make this plane without a dlc
I love the design! But I don't think the kerbal inside the suit could handle going into the atmosphere like that.
4:54 hey shadow zone did you mean to write "To to deliver the payload"?
KSP universe is already pretty much tiny and downscaled, but theese KSP geeks keep compressing their builds to even smaller sizes
The reason it didn’t want to pitch is because it’s entire lift body pitches to control pitch which is a terrible way to do it. Use a small delta wing and use control surfaces will work much better
anyone could've done that if you're just gonna use the traditional approach to get into orbit....
Less than 2 tons is record breaking for stock only with successful takeoff and landings on its own is impressive.
Well done in my book.
i love the tiny science sat it makes me wanna make the smallest sat i can make that has all the experiments and manages to be effective. Just wish i had KSP and a good enough computer to run it.
great video! (slight suggestion, the aerospike engine you used does not have gimbal! that would add to your lack of control)
i made an plane using 14/16/11 (alternative versions)parts. WILL YOU ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE?
Other KSP tuber should learn how to make fast videos on building ships like you did. It is a pain in the ass to go thru the normal speed.
My GOD this music sucks!!!
This ship looks like something plankton would escape on if he got the kraby patty secret formula
And it’s amazing
oh 2017 .. simpler times, if this was today he would've landed on the launchpad with it and it would've been a n ssto
What about deploying it from a traditional sstos/spaceplanes cargo bay, that way it would be fully recoverable.
NASA wants to know your coordinates
Hey there. What's the name of the mod you used that indicates the true landing site after you re-enter the atmosphere? (that red cross on the map when you re-entry)
What was the mod he used that showed his landing location in red @5:16
hmm attatching this to a bigger rocket/space station and use them as landing crafts or smth
an ssto that takes an ssto that takes an ssto that takes a really small satellite and you gotta put em all back together and land em.
It'd be feasible if you land the 1st stage booster and just make it a drone ship, then it'd be a really cheap delivery system
The first booster design could have worked if you also fired the spark on ascent, with fuel lines to drain from the booster.