Sonic the Hedgehog Spinball (Sep 17, 1993 prototype)

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  • (Note: The following prototype is a PAL build. So the framerate should be 50fps)
    Presenting, a new late prototype of Sonic the Hedgehog Spinball for the Sega Mega Drive!
    This prototype rests in between the earliest known prototype and the latest prototype with the original Sonic 1/2 theme. Unlike the earlier prototype, this build can be finished from start to finish. There are some differences in comparison to the later prototype as well as the final. Can you figure out what they are?
    Special thanks to Sazpaimon for recording the footage this time around!
    Read more about this prototype here:
    bit.ly/3ht93XH
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 128

  • @Cinko420
    @Cinko420 3 роки тому +99

    0:12 ouch

  • @kiwibro6454
    @kiwibro6454 3 роки тому +109

    32:02 is that dr robotnik's scream?!

    • @TheLoganLives
      @TheLoganLives 3 роки тому +13

      Sounds like it. That's the sound that typically plays when you hit/kill a boss in the final release.

    • @kiwibro6454
      @kiwibro6454 3 роки тому +17

      @@TheLoganLives I understand if it's for a machine but..atleast a generic voice sample or something. Because that sounds terrifying

    • @DavidPavicic1
      @DavidPavicic1 3 роки тому +1

      Yep i think so

    • @King_Guest
      @King_Guest 3 роки тому

      Yes

  • @MK-Masters
    @MK-Masters 3 роки тому +20

    Wooooo that title screen music. Even in spinball style sounds great

    • @Ultimatedogfan
      @Ultimatedogfan 3 роки тому +9

      Fun fact: it was used when it first came out but inmediately removed to avoid getting sued by Dreams Come True

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 3 роки тому +4

      @@Ultimatedogfan the final title theme was composed and loaded in with only 1 hour to go when they realised that Sega didn't own the rights to the Sonic 1/2 theme.

  • @lukabogavac5772
    @lukabogavac5772 3 роки тому +69

    I hope someday the CES Chicago Demo version will be found. It'll be very interesting.

    • @RiainRamblez
      @RiainRamblez 3 роки тому +4

      What's the difference between that demo and this?

    • @DavidPavicic1
      @DavidPavicic1 3 роки тому +2

      @@lukabogavac5772 thats it?

    • @lukabogavac5772
      @lukabogavac5772 3 роки тому +10

      @@DavidPavicic1 Not sure what are you trying to say, but if you saw the early title screen shown at Summer CES 1993 then that's it. The only thing I want that build is to see many things that were changed during development. Plus I like collecting prototypes! 😊

    • @KlonoaPrime
      @KlonoaPrime 3 роки тому +7

      I'm hoping that one day someone will find the Sonic Spinball prototype that was shown off in some Spanish Sega VHS

    • @lukabogavac5772
      @lukabogavac5772 3 роки тому +1

      @@KlonoaPrime I am hoping for this too. But I am also hoping that all prototypes of Sonic Spinball will be found.

  • @Brewski007
    @Brewski007 3 роки тому +76

    Wow the options music
    Making it slightly faster makes it suck just a bit less

  • @ccateni28
    @ccateni28 3 роки тому +70

    The menu music is different, also when the demo dies it goes to the high score screen then title screen.

    • @em5345-
      @em5345- 3 роки тому +12

      It's the REV00 music, the music that you're used to is in REV01

    • @baxterbunny4403
      @baxterbunny4403 3 роки тому +1

      i like that music

    • @abithegreat1707
      @abithegreat1707 2 роки тому

      who else here realizes the title screen music sounds similar to sonic 1

  • @GamayObera
    @GamayObera 3 роки тому +41

    Kinda wished they could keep the S1 title screen music over the final version ones. But yeah, either Nakamura or JASRAC would go after Sega for some extra money on re-releases.

    • @em5345-
      @em5345- 3 роки тому +9

      It's Revision 00's music.

    • @timeconsumer5159
      @timeconsumer5159 3 роки тому +1

      Really? I'm really glad they changed it tbh

  • @TheLoganLives
    @TheLoganLives 3 роки тому +49

    Man that main theme is so much better than what they used in the final release...

    • @Ultimatedogfan
      @Ultimatedogfan 3 роки тому +26

      Fun fact: it was used when it first came out but inmediately removed to avoid getting sued by Dreams Come True

    • @TheLoganLives
      @TheLoganLives 3 роки тому +6

      @@Ultimatedogfan No way. That's a fun little fact!

    • @wilddogtc2058
      @wilddogtc2058 3 роки тому +8

      It's only early North American NTSC releases though I believe, and not used in any Japanese NTSC or PAL revisions

    • @LondonTransport466
      @LondonTransport466 Рік тому +2

      The Beta main theme sound awfully ear-grating in my opinion. Much prefer the final.

    • @Atlink
      @Atlink 8 місяців тому +1

      Yep, Dreams Come True owns most of the classic Sonic music, not SEGA. As far as I know SEGA has never tried to outright purchase the music, probably because royalties are so much more lucrative.

  • @MamboCat84
    @MamboCat84 3 роки тому +27

    I genuinely love Sonic Spinball. This is awesome, thank you!

  • @timeconsumer5159
    @timeconsumer5159 3 роки тому +11

    Thank god they changed the main theme at the start

    • @supakusuta
      @supakusuta 3 роки тому +3

      They changed it because Sega Technical Institute (The team in the USA that developed the game) didn't have the rights to use the title screen theme, because that license was owned by Dreams Come True.

  • @Monacomaverick
    @Monacomaverick 3 роки тому +12

    Out of all the times I've beaten this game, I have never once seen that multi-ball bonus.

  • @kapparomeo
    @kapparomeo 3 роки тому +5

    Thank goodness they changed the title music, that prototype version was painful.

    • @Sean-D78
      @Sean-D78 3 роки тому +2

      It was actually used in the final version but only the first batch had them, they quickly changed the theme in the later prints after learning that they didn't have permission to use the theme.

  • @abramthefighters
    @abramthefighters 3 роки тому +15

    I love how this came out, no one talked about it, and like a week later there's Sonic 1.

    • @cay7809
      @cay7809 2 роки тому +1

      no just a day later

  • @megablueman
    @megablueman 3 роки тому +16

    Wow you guys are at it again! Good find!

  • @kenn_k
    @kenn_k 3 роки тому +22

    31:55 Is that what Robotnik's suit always looked like in this game? I don't recall if I ever actually beat that final boss... or if this cutscene is even in the final version, lol. It's like an early version of the modern redesign tho

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 3 роки тому +7

      I think it's based on the outfit from the old Archie Comics Sonic series.

  • @JeiHeirumaru
    @JeiHeirumaru 4 місяці тому

    20:05 - I was today years old when I found out the little monitor showing the position of where the opening is, was actually the monitor showing were the opening is, and not just a random picture … 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @Brewski007
    @Brewski007 3 роки тому +14

    Wait... why does that bass in toxic caves sound a lot like knuckles theme during one part idk what to call it so this part 1:55

  • @matiasolivares5749
    @matiasolivares5749 3 роки тому +2

    The title screen is a complete bop ngl

  • @ultrathemega
    @ultrathemega 3 роки тому +2

    The opening is actually good actually amazing

  • @ivanildopaixao7113
    @ivanildopaixao7113 3 роки тому +7

    0:12 When my brother ask me to see who is faster me or him

  • @lynndauberman4799
    @lynndauberman4799 2 роки тому

    I like the fact that it’s playable

  • @gangweedstudios
    @gangweedstudios 3 роки тому +6

    i swear i’ve heard that title on some online emulator for the game

    • @szprink
      @szprink 3 роки тому +5

      it was in some builds of final game, however it was quickly replaced due to licensing issues

    • @xXSpongeBroBrownPantzXx
      @xXSpongeBroBrownPantzXx 3 роки тому +2

      @@szprink interesting

  • @beckbeep796
    @beckbeep796 3 роки тому +2

    I think of sonic spinball as if American sonic got his own game

    • @repsycle
      @repsycle 3 роки тому

      it actually takes place in that universe

  • @EpicFurbynerd76YO
    @EpicFurbynerd76YO Рік тому

    The bump sounds fit more with the final song

  • @Master_48
    @Master_48 3 роки тому +4

    0:09 -is this some sort of high quality rip or what lmao the difference-

    • @kaytea42
      @kaytea42 3 роки тому

      it’s official

    • @Master_48
      @Master_48 3 роки тому +1

      @@kaytea42 i know

  • @Cloxer
    @Cloxer 3 роки тому +1

    My parents gave me this prototype cartridge as a kid back in 2004 in a wrapped gift, I wasn't even aware this game existed despite being a sonic fan and played all the other classic Sonic games on the genesis.
    Game over music in this version scared the crap out of me though

    • @Mitzi-chan224
      @Mitzi-chan224 2 роки тому

      did that actually happen??? if so, you are very lucky!!

  • @Sinistar1983
    @Sinistar1983 3 роки тому +7

    Neat to see an earlier version, but man that gems driver is still terrible on this game regardless

    • @ikagura
      @ikagura 3 роки тому

      ThunderForce 4? Shinobi 3?

    • @Sinistar1983
      @Sinistar1983 3 роки тому +7

      @@victor.elkins you're right, I'm being a little harsh. I just don't like it when its used so badly. Drives me nuts

    • @JoshSonic
      @JoshSonic 3 роки тому +8

      Maybe it's just me, but I love the way this game sounds. The music has this awesome gritty sound, my favorite being the boss music.

    • @ikagura
      @ikagura 3 роки тому +4

      @@JoshSonic Looking at your pfp I remember that Spinball is one of the only Sonic game set in the archieverse... Too bad that the only game with Sally got canned..

    • @dr.velious5411
      @dr.velious5411 3 роки тому +1

      @@JoshSonic Same.

  • @Wockes
    @Wockes 3 роки тому +2

    Nice

  • @carterguy2600
    @carterguy2600 3 роки тому +2

    Sucks they cant use the s1/s2 theme more often, it is THE sonic theme song after all

  • @CLD21Studios
    @CLD21Studios 3 роки тому +1

    those triangles (next to the flippers) are meant to bounce you but they don't

  • @Mooseski117
    @Mooseski117 Рік тому

    This game got me into Pinball

  • @HOURHAK
    @HOURHAK 11 місяців тому

    hopefully this game exists

  • @garufis_dx
    @garufis_dx 3 роки тому +1

    The main title music is not changed :D

  • @RWL2012
    @RWL2012 3 роки тому +3

    50fps...? isn't it 25fps due to it being coded in C...?

  • @mryoshi1221
    @mryoshi1221 3 роки тому

    imagine being a kid in '94 at 11pm booting up this version of the game and that Annoying ass song blasts thru your house waking up your parents.

    • @VanguardRaven
      @VanguardRaven 3 роки тому +2

      That's why you turn the volume to 0 before powering on the machine, and slowly turning it up so you can hear something as you play.
      Source: I was that kid

  • @danielpedricothe2nd376
    @danielpedricothe2nd376 3 роки тому +1

    Title has sonic 1 Theme

  • @maxistellazapata7108
    @maxistellazapata7108 3 роки тому +2

    its interesting how slight hate this game has.
    when in my case i like this one, since it was one of my first genesis games besides sonic 2
    it understandable tho.

  • @TheSpark717
    @TheSpark717 3 роки тому +3

    how tf are you playing this so easily

  • @CrabulousYT
    @CrabulousYT 3 роки тому

    this is the better version just cause of the theme

  • @thebonefish
    @thebonefish 3 роки тому +5

    OG Ear Rape

  • @philipharoun1223
    @philipharoun1223 3 роки тому +5

    how on the world is there a protoype for this

    • @evdestroy5304
      @evdestroy5304 3 роки тому +10

      The same way there's a prototype for every videogame release in existence

  • @SuperSaiyawolf
    @SuperSaiyawolf 2 роки тому

    They should've kept the intro music in-

  • @MSOGameShow
    @MSOGameShow 3 роки тому

    22:58 - Lmao oh that is some bullshit. I know it's a prototype but damn. XD

  • @moaningasianman8324
    @moaningasianman8324 3 роки тому

    I like this better bruh

  • @littlemacisunderrated412
    @littlemacisunderrated412 3 роки тому +3

    How do you find a prototype of a game that doesn’t exist?

    • @basicallysnake
      @basicallysnake 3 роки тому

      ...

    • @littlemacisunderrated412
      @littlemacisunderrated412 3 роки тому

      @@basicallysnake what
      Sonic spinball, a game released on November 23rd, 1993 in north america on the sega genesis
      Does not exist

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 3 роки тому

      Hidden Palace is literally a site that hosts and documents prototype versions of games.

    • @littlemacisunderrated412
      @littlemacisunderrated412 3 роки тому

      @@RWL2012 but sonic spinball doesn’t exist

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 2 роки тому

      @@littlemacisunderrated412 it does exist, you're trolling

  • @superyoshiclubofficial3484
    @superyoshiclubofficial3484 3 роки тому

    Found I found this prototype on an emulator I was curious why I had the prototype theme but I found it I don’t know how to dump the game

    • @Dan-379
      @Dan-379 3 роки тому +1

      It's REV00. REV01 replaced the theme due to copyright problems.

  • @tayqhwiqhsuevahwhsiwje3834
    @tayqhwiqhsuevahwhsiwje3834 3 роки тому

    Omg I searched in clothes NOT THIS

  • @fan226
    @fan226 Рік тому

    How do you guys all these Sonic prototypes

  • @lynndauberman4799
    @lynndauberman4799 2 роки тому

    Game over theme please

  • @andrecesar4652
    @andrecesar4652 3 роки тому

    Ué o que está acontecendo o cara tá mandando bem nos protótipo de o Sonic 😱

  • @dagainz6997
    @dagainz6997 3 роки тому

    You can get 60fps on the commercial build with an overclocked mega drive. Looks way better.

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah but there's still not as many frames of animation as other sonic games. This one was coded in C, an actual programming language which was rare for Genesis. Unfortunately that means the core game engine itself is slow.

  • @LtheOriginal
    @LtheOriginal 3 роки тому

    MY EARS

  • @JeiHeirumaru
    @JeiHeirumaru 4 місяці тому

    …:::HOW ABOUT A RIDE?:::…

    • @JeiHeirumaru
      @JeiHeirumaru 4 місяці тому

      …:::☠️READY TO FRY?☠️:::…

    • @JeiHeirumaru
      @JeiHeirumaru 4 місяці тому

      …:::SMELL MY SOCKS!!!:::…

  • @1UPPancake
    @1UPPancake 3 роки тому +2

    Is this the first prototype found of this game?

    • @vertz1515
      @vertz1515 3 роки тому +6

      no

    • @1UPPancake
      @1UPPancake 3 роки тому +1

      Oh ok.

    • @theobserver4214
      @theobserver4214 3 роки тому +1

      This is the second

    • @wariocapproductions326
      @wariocapproductions326 3 роки тому +3

      I believe this is the 4th found for the Mega Drive version. There's been a whole lot of prototypes for the game gear

    • @NunofYerbizness
      @NunofYerbizness 3 роки тому +3

      One prototype was leaked on BBS some time before the game actually came out, then there was a late PAL proto in 2009/2010, an altered final build with "SegaChannel" XORed at the end of the ROM data in 2016, and then this one.

  • @usaanimation1776
    @usaanimation1776 3 роки тому

    It's prototype?

  • @dekugh64
    @dekugh64 3 роки тому +1

    This game doesn’t have a good soundfont

  • @pepsiman5042
    @pepsiman5042 3 роки тому

    uh i didnt know i was playing this prototype the whole time uh...

  • @penelope37libera
    @penelope37libera 3 роки тому

    Yang milih allah like 1000 ya yang milih

  • @LKitesar
    @LKitesar 3 роки тому +2

    And the game would go on to still be TERRIBLE.