My parents being called was the BIGGEST THREAT when I was a kid, now the parents defend their kids being outwardly violent towards others, it’s horrifying
@@Hello-n7b dude same I remembered bawling my eyes out the one & only time I got a referral, full blown mental breakdown/panic attack, literally these kids have absolutely NO respect for anyone, that’s clear as day
@@Vexlich I'd fucking have a heart attack and beg, plead and cry and be teachers lil angel to change their mind. How can they not fear the reprecussions?
And the saddest part about these teachers quitting bc of student behavior is that the kids think it’s a flex to piss off their teacher to the point of quitting. They think it’s funny. We’re doomed, yall
My English teacher literally did nothing wrong and yet either quit or got fired after one year of teaching for my school. Kids talked in front of me about bullying her, the gossip about her was so bad they were banned from talking about her in one class and made fake names so they could continue. I loved her as a teacher, but I can see why she left.
I had a great teacher but the students were horrible to him. He almost quit and was gone for a month. The students actually asked for him back. I and a few of the students that liked him spoke up for him and mentioned how horrible he kids were to him. When he did come back the class bought him a meal for lunch and even applauded his return. He was shocked. But this was in the mid 2000s. I started working in the 2010s in a school and Gen Z was a disaster. It has only gotten worse now with Alpha. We need a cultural shift.
I'm not a teacher but I work in a retail store that primarily targets an age group that tends to have children. And the amount of kids who yell and scream whenever their phone or tablet is taken from them, they've thrown stuff either to their parents or me and my coworkers, etc. It's concerning how so many of gen alphas parents openly neglect them and how gen alpha responds to it.
I work retail too and I’m not surprised at their behavior I mean look at their parents🥴🥴 the amount times I’ve seen these adults throw tantrums over something so small is concerning. I’ve had customers get mad at me because their card wasn’t working. I’ve had these adults yell at me all because the item wasn’t on clearance
@@Jessica.Shawnte yes it's quite saddening how immature so many people are nowadays 😭, it's like the adults that like to call themselves adult children decided to truly never grow up.
I thought that I was going to be a teacher for the rest of my life. Then a student strangled and nearly killed me. My spine was broken, and my spinal cord was damaged. I got spinal surgery, but I still need a wheelchair, and I will never be able to work again. Teaching should not be such a dangerous profession.
@@katiephillips8543 I hope that pos rots in jail for what they did to you. It is absolutely inexcusable for a student to put their hands on a teacher like that
OMG!! That is freaking heartbreaking. I bet you were an amazing teacher too. I hope that you will or have found some type of peace, a new dream. You deserve it ❤
Because teachers can get put in jail for defending themselves and the kids know that so they think they have free reign to do whatever they want and the law supports that. That kid should be in jail for attempted murder.
@@toohauteforyou Simply touching a student can get you fired. My ex almost got fired for putting a hand gently on a girl trying to calm her down. She freaked out and her mom wanted to sue my wife. Welcome to modern teaching.
Teachers if these kids are putting their hands on yall or throwing WHOLE ASS DESKS and none of the adults want to discipline these kids, yall just gotta start pressing charges cause this is insane behavior.
Tbh I agree, kids want to act like that, they need to have legit consequences+ correctional rehabilitation because something is not going write in that development
If I had a kid and they acted like that, I'd consider revoking custody and sending them off to an orphanage, because either I'm so hopelessly incompetent as a parent that I'm creating a monster or the kid was born as a monster and there's nothing I can do to make them a good person.
I'm not a teacher, but I work at a school as the day custodian. It does start at home. Years ago, we had a kid who was SO ADDICTED TO SCREENS that he would run and grab teachers' phones. When I first met him, the counselor was there and warned me that he would do that. I looked this kid in the eyes and said, "My phone is in my butt pocket. If someone tried getting my phone, they are touching my butt, and I will defend myself from being touched in inappropriate places." And the kid never took my phone or tried. No one had ever point blank told him no. It would always be something like 'oh, (name), we dont do that, it makes others sad!' People need to lay down hard boundaries and stick to them. Some admin refuses and that is what causes the issues. Not all the time, but that is my experience.
YES i love it!! im a preschool teacher and firm and consistent boundaries are SO important. children dont understand being yelled at, but they also wont learn if theyre coddled. a boundary and an explanation the child can understand is exactly how i handle things and it transformed my classroom. imagine if it was applied at home too, the kids would be on such a good track!!! i appreciate the work you do, custodians make teaching possible (kids make way too much mess for one person to handle lol)
This right here! You put the fear of god in them kids on day one and they learn real quick. And then we can all settle down and learn. But that tech addiction these days is real. These kids spend zero time not staring into a screen. The ones who have parents that know better are a million times more prepared than those that don’t.
this is so beautifully spoken and you handled it the right way!! being firm and collected is such an essential for children and they will totally respect you! major props to you!
And not everyone runs based off empathy- some kids need to hear "no, that is NOT ok. You are harming me, that is not allowed," because their braijs function better hearing logic as opposed to why it hurts someone's feelings. I'm hyper empathetic, seeing someone hurt by my actions would make me cry as a kid. But not all kids are that way, you have to use what works best for the kid and set a firm boundary in both ways. Ofc it's hard to do when you also struggle to teach due to lack of funding....
I hate when people baby kids like that, that has scientifically shown that can affect some kids, you shouldn't baby kids after they become a little older than 6 months it can mentally affect some stuff. children who are 5+ are absolutely able to understand no by that point, and they need to be told a firm no if they are crossing boundaries or doing something dangerous.
@@2okaycolayeah. I knew a couple people in the ‘special ed’ class (god do I hate that term as a disabled person), and they would sometimes have meltdowns. One even tried to whip his penis out when he couldn’t play with his ball (I can’t blame him though, he didn’t function well and probably needed more help than he was getting). I think the huge problem that causes that is that many SPED kids (or at least nowadays, not talking about the past) are iPad kids. Before the iPad was invented, they most likely were not getting the help they needed, which caused frequent meltdowns. It breaks my heart, to be honest. One of my friends are in special Ed, and I’ve seen the nightmare that is the other kids. I could never be a teacher there.
the "worst" would be a kid maybe talking back to a teacher or making a smart ass remark and it would only be once and then they were sent to the office or detention and no one else dared to even try that again. The thought of physically harming a teacher was completely out of everyone's minds. No one would have dared to try any of this stuff when I was in school. It's shocking.
I went to school in 2000s. The worst behavior was a kid talking to another kid while teacher was giving a lecture. After being asked to be quiet, kid went quiet. Again. This was the worst behavior we had back then.
As someone born in 2002, I am inclined to agree, although I can’t help but think I witnessed some warning signs, because in highschool it got worse. I remember it wasn’t just talking anymore, it was outright ignoring the teachers. Hell, one of my teacher’s went out of the class room for five minutes and a few kids got up, one blocked the door with a desk, another went and drew and wrote on the board. Again, she was gone for like, five minutes and when she got back she was understandably furious because she could outright hear them talking and laughing from down the hall. It’s horrendous how things changed over time.
As someone born in 2001 my school(mainly high school and the UK equivalent to middle school which is just early high school) was already like the gen alphas to the point where students were running around in class, dancing on tables and throwing chairs, swearing at teachers, but I lived in rural Scotland lol.
i was born in 2004 so i went to school later than you did and i can agree that there wasn't a common culture of violence or disrespect, but some students did swear at their teachers or were violent with them (notably one kid i was in a class with in middle school threw one of those metal desk/chair combos at the teacher). i think the main difference is not what happens but the lack of action about it. when students see that they can do anything they want and not really face consequences for it, more students will act out. whenever people acted out when i was in school there was the threat of disciplinary action and schools were not afraid to suspend people. now, when the threats are empty, nothing changes.
My mom is a teacher at a university in Sweden. She's been telling me for YEARS about how they constantly have to lower the bar for passing their students because otherwise, almost none of them would make it to the next year. She told me once about a student fresh out of the swedish equivalent of high school/collage that didn't understand fractions and how to move a variable from one side of an equation to the other. My mom is a math and physics teacher, and someone who didn't understand fractions was able to make it to her class because of the lowered the bar for passing students so much.
And then people turn around and say “schools are just so EVIL and AUTHORITARIAN and how dare you tell children what to do?? Do you think you know better than them??” Or people in their 20s talk about how horrible school is and I’m like… what are you even talking about. And all the bullying may have been somewhat lessened by, idk, supervision and or consequences but nooo. Edit: if anyone is curious, you can read "Dumbing Down: The Crisis of Quality and Equity in a Once-Great School System -- and How to Reverse the Trend" which is open access, particularly ch 6 is interesting, this has been going on for a very long time.
I live in central/eastern Europe, and my father also works at an university, except he teaches history/archeology. he keeps telling me the SAME story about how they have to keep lowering the standards or else no one would pass (barely anyone does anyway). he tells me all about how bachelor papers are all worse than the papers i write for highschool, and how no one even cares about the studies and just wants the degree (which im not surprised about honestly). this is absolutely crazy
As someone who gets mostly A’s in my university it sometimes makes me wonder if I even deserved it because of the need of “lowering standards”. I’m not sure that anyone will take me seriously in the future because of it.
If covid taught me anything, it's that most people don't WANT to be around their kids. People sent their kids back to school while the pandemic was still ongoing because they were tired of dealing with them. I saw the social media posts from the parents.
People have to work 2-3 jobs just to live, they have no idea what's going on with their children. This makes me think of interview's of parents of incarcerated kids who have committed mass shootings. Parents always say "I had NO IDEA," "I had NO CLUE," until people are able to go home and give their families attention, this will get worse.
I’m glad you brought this up, with how little the US gov invests in childcare, the low wages, inflation, you’re right some parents are often not able to be at home or be as present because they’re worked to the bone. This issue is so complex, it’s crazy where we’ve gotten
That's so true. I might be 1/2 remembering but I think there was some study that said the more that toddlers talk to their parents or even just passively listen to older ppl talk the better their comprehension skills and grades are when they're in school. So everybody having a 2nd job and a side hustle is probably affecting the kids.
YESSSSSSSS exactly my thoughts! Kids are literally held captive for HOURS and treated like actual prisoners the parallells between jail and school are insane and we are now surprised when theyre all snapping and can't take it. How can you be calm and at peace when you get barely any sleep, barely any time to yourself, and you're literally held in a chair and not allowed to eat I don't know why people are surprised at this point but of course they're going to blame phones and the generation instead of the insanely abusive school system that never improves... school could be such a great happy experience kids love learning, kids inherantly want to do good but the school system sets them up as guilty captives with no rights it is INHUMANE
when I am burntout extremely tired and hungry I am NOT myself, and take into consideration underdiagnosed or misdiagnosed neurodivergence that is not being acknowledged or accomodated.. schools are not properly staffed to be able to actually handle the needs of these kids, and the amount adults have to work, the needs are not even being met at home, so none of this should come as a surprise
@@Turt13princess… I appreciate this perspective so much! As a parent to a neurodivergent kiddo who can easily be seen as the “bad”/misbehaving student- it’s nice to have some acknowledgement that schools/teachers don’t always have the time or resources to work with these students. I do my due diligence & have my son in occupational & behavioral therapy to help with skill building and emotional regulation etc. My son has gotten aggressive with a long term sub he had 2 years ago & I will never defend any type of aggression or getting physical. But I recognize that most ppl don’t know how to help calm down my kiddo/emotionally regulate which can make these outburst 1,000 worse
High school student here, I can confirm that this same behavior goes on in high school as well. My class, and the surrounding ones, are unruly and out of control. We've lost so many sweet and passionate teachers because of them. It's just sad.
I'm not sure why people are acting like this issue is exclusive to gen alpha/late gen z. I'm middle gen z and my entire schooling experience, even in college, can be summed up with the issues everyone is talking about gen alpha having. Hell, I was addicted to my phone and clocked out in middle school, I just needed straight As and a record of good behavior so my parents' abuse wouldn't get worse, I was actively apart of the same problem. It's been like this since I started elementary school in 2009-2010, and even pre-k to an extent from what I can remember.
@@izzybennet.t I think you may be missing the link of sadly common unruly behavior of some students in classrooms vs the overwhelmingly state of many unruly students and the unruliness having worsened in recent years
@@jennamallow correct me if I'm wrong, but this issue applies to high schoolers and late middle schoolers, so gen z who border alpha and middle gen z? I assure you I am not missing anything, I'm explaining why it's wrong that we look at this problem like it's a new issue and not the progressive degradation of parenting and the school systems that have been happening for many years at this point.
Absolutely concerning. It's honestly just sad. Even the kids in higher-level classes sometimes just refuse to do any work, even in electives. I'm the video editor for TV production at my school, and my teacher has talked about the constant struggle to just get kids off their phones and motivated. And this is probably the person who cares about his subject the most in the school. If it's like this for classes that... don't require any effort outside of class, I can't imagine what it's like for classes that do require that amount of passion.
@@izzybennet.tWhile this point has been talked about For almost a decade people used to call names to anyone trying to adress the topic, it's Now that issues are out of hand that people are finally getting the point.
I called it quits but one of the biggest moments that got to me was my first day with preschoolers. One of the kids decided to come up to me and tell me over and over “I’m gonna have my dad shoot you dead” while his friend went and sat on the floor and pissed herself. And the entire time I was trying to get help from one of the experienced teachers or even my boss but no one came. When I tried talking about the little boy I kept getting “oh he just says that” from my boss, and got in trouble for trying to talk to the parents about it. I hate working with kids now.
Former teacher here - while not every child I’ve worked with has done this, there is definitely WAY more inappropriate and vicious behavior being learned / tolerated / underreported to & from children of all ages, even (for my personal experience) as young as TWO YEARS OLD. 2!!!!! 2 years old!!!! I had a 2 year PINCH TWIST AND BITE me! Because he was already slapping a classmate who was NAPPING & we went to move him to a calm space we had set up in the room. His parents do not care. They told us “he doesn’t seem to do that at home!” And completely brushed it off despite now multiple parents and my fellow teachers complaining and reporting. So sad dude. That is LEARNED behavior. Not to mention a kindergartener calling me a slur and stabbing me with a pencil in my previous school system, and a 13 year old throwing a legitimate temper tantrum because he didn’t want to put his phone away. I wish I was joking. This is primarily the adult’s around us causing this. Learned behavior and lack of love. Complacency no boundaries and enabling. That’s what’s causing these babies to grow up so viciously and unhealthy. Just rips my heart out. 😞❤
That's learned behavior but that also means he probably feels safe to act out at school, Most likley arnt allowed to at home, Me and my sister would act out at our moms house but acted like "little soilder children" with our dad My grandmother would always say that to us It is sad, they basically are masking at home 100% of the time 😢
@@Thebeezzkneezz.that’s not necessarily true. Most of these “parents” have a “nobody can tell me ish” attitude that their kids pick up on and know that their parents will not step up if they misbehave. These kids know there will not be consequences. I just saw a kid cussing up a storm in the deli and the mom was yelling “mind your business” at anyone who looked their way 🤦🏽♀️
"He doesn't do this at home..." Ma'am, I'll bet 10 dollars it's because you give him a tablet or phone instead of making him nap for an hour. That or you just "can't say 'no' to THAT FACE"...
I had a preschooler tell me on my first day over and over “I’m gonna have my dad shoot you dead” while his friend went and sat on the floor and pissed herself. I kept trying to get help on the radio but my boss and none of the other teachers came. Oh and my bosses response “he just says that” and reprimanded me for trying to talk to the parents about it.
I agree, I was a teacher for three years and my last class is what made me leave teaching completely. To this day, almost two years later, I still have nightmares about teaching. The behavior, the parents who do not discipline or guide their kids at all, and the sheer amount of disrespect makes me never want to teach ever again
as a psych minor, one of the biggest focus in my classes is learning. kids NEED consequences to learn. parents can give their kids consequences for their actions without being harmful. and its also explaining to kids what they did wrong as well. if a kid sees a parent will follow through with punishment and have been taught and explained what appropriate and inappropriate behavior is young, theyre less likely to be horribly behaved because they KNOW that their will be a consequence
Also - lack of “punishment” does not mean zero discipline. I’m 💯💯a gentle parenter. Kids all need boundaries/discipline/consequences in order to thrive.I hate that gentle parenting gets such as bad rap, but it makes sense!
@@GLee-dt8ybIf it weren’t weak parenting, you would have no need to call it gentle. Anyways, society prefers a kid that’s a little broken than a kid will too much confidence. Humans are resilient and need hardship to become true empathetic individuals. People who feel safe all the time grow up to tell those who had it harder to get over themselves and work harder.
@@GLee-dt8yb completely get that! in my classes we use the term punishment when learning about conditioning/ behavior so its the term i used here but the idea is the same. an example from one of my classes: if a child throws their tablet for, and the parent explains why thats a wrong thing to do and take it away, it would be considered negative punishment since its a consequence of an action where something is removed. so pretty much the same thing just like a random terminology fact!
Exactly! My mom never hit me but she would withhold and allowance or take away our videogames if we misbehaved. It wasn’t harmful at all and I was taught I couldn’t just do what I wanted without consequences.
I work in an industry related to schools and teachers and seeing the shortage in teachers at schools in real time is terrifying. Last summer, a coworker realized her 11 year old son basically missed an entire year of math because the school didn’t have a teacher and there was no long term sub placed there. So there were days where the kids were just given packets but no one could verify their work or even show them how to do it. But on the flip side, that same coworker had a daughter who then was coming out of kindergarten (so at the time, the summer before she’d go into first grade) and my coworker was ranting about how the school gave her child a “chapter book” for the kids to read over the summer. And she decided that that was too advanced for her little girl and wasn’t going to make her read it. When I didn’t respond (aka, I didn’t affirm that she was right to do that), she must have sensed my disapproval because then she added “well, she reads other things. She had lots of books in her room she’ll read.” And then every day we saw each other after she’d tell me about her 6 year old staying up all night playing video games or watching yt videos. Yeah, I trust you’re making her read alright. Her daughter is now having major behavioral issues, throwing full blown tantrums and kicking and screaming when she needs to leave the house. And my coworker is screaming at her husband to get melatonin gummies to give her so she’ll sleep instead of putting her on a consistent night routine. When I was her age, I was in bed at 8 every night (except Fridays and Saturdays where we could stay up until 9 lol), whether it was a holiday, summer, etc. We were on a schedule and there was no arguing. Millennial parents think having zero boundaries with kids is going to make us the traumatizing and toxic parents our parents were. The last time I saw my coworker, she was arguing with her husband because he gave up trying to get their daughter to leave the house for cheer practice, and he legit said “I don’t want to traumatize her.” Bruh, she is not going to be sitting in a therapists office ten or fifteen years from now saying she’s traumatized by her parents dragging her out of the house to go to cheer practice. A real therapist would explore why she felt the need to throw those tantrums as a child. These parents are so afraid of doing harm that they don’t even try. I’ve watched this same coworker undermine punishments her husband tried to give their daughter for similar behavior in the past (throwing tantrums and lying to get out of going to school) by letting her daughter have the very thing he banned her from. No routine, no discipline, no boundaries, and therefore they get no respect from their children. And then wonder why they can’t control them. My mother wasn’t perfect and def made mistakes, but the routines I had as a child allowed me to at least be a productive member of society once I became an adult. Can you imagine these kids as doctors or lawyers or even teachers themselves as adults? I sure can’t.
The united front is the absolute minimum, what rules you teach is secondary, most important is that all adults in kid's life are on the same page. You can't create enviroment where child can or can't do specific thing depended who is watching, otherwise how will they know what is actually bad? 24h access to entertaiment is not great either. Sure we millenials spend some (a lot of) time in front of tv, but to watch your fav show/Cartoon you had to tune in on specific time, which teached a little pantience and also some time managment 😂In Polish public TV there was specific spot called dobranocka that was Huge help for parents, since it's end was widly recognized by little Poles as the call for getting to bed. People are giving kids tablets cause they think youtube or streaming is not really so diffrent, but the fact everything is on demand now and not squeduled programming is making huge diffrence. Kids have no boundries and delays of pleasure either from their parents or from the media, so how they can suddenly lit into tigthly time managed school life and not have problem with it.
I don't know about you, but I trust I will no longer be here when this generation gets into the White House. THEN you people will no longer have a country.
Gentle parenting should be free of punishment but not free of consequences and discipline. That’s how I in my country learned about what gentle parenting is.
Gentle parenting is just parenting. It didn't need rebranding. Gentle parenting is permissive parenting 9.9 out of 10 times because Millenials are too "Traumatized" to put boundaries.
@Kate8that >makes claim >cites no sources Grow up and stop playing the blame game. Idgaf what generation you are, we are supposed to be in this together. Generation wars are a disease on humanity.
I work with 1st graders and let me tell you… these kids are DISRESPECTFUL, I’ve been spit on and laughed at for the way I look. I had a student tell me that he’s just not going to do his homework because his mom will just do it for him.
Gosh, people, if you can’t handle to go out of your way to actually teach your children how to behave and do your job as a parent, just don’t have kids.
Unfortunately people have completely disconnected secks from having kids, so people are really just not being responsible about it at all and then they have kids they don’t want. Sad
@@just.a.guy324 also some straight up don't see children as people or as future people at the least, they're just little more than vanity accessories and thus they don't treat with little more care than a pet
I realized that fellow parents must be nightmares when, not one, not two, but THREE different teachers had tears in their eyes over the most basic acts of kindness (I literally gave them each a small bag of generic brand things for the classroom like wipes, paper towels, etc) and said yes to a social story about my daughter’s communication device being told in class so her classmates have a story to relate to her device for more understanding. That’s it. Also the shock on their faces when I ask if my kids behaved that day. Like I actually care and would do something about it… of course I would care! They can’t be disrupting their own or others education progress!
i'm in my final year of uni and about to go off and do teacher training for high school history. i'm not even religious but i'm praying morning noon and night after watching this video. i'm so passionate about teaching and seeing other people have that spark die is a BAD sign
My girlfriend is in school to learn to teach currently. if a student hurts her I’m pressing charges, throwing hands, screaming from the rooftops. I’m so scared for her, honestly.
I was a high school teacher in a public school for 3 years. I loved my students, and I loved my school, but there were definite problems. I had a book thrown at my head one time. I had students cuss me out regularly. One student threatened to beat me up several times. One student made sexually inappropriate comments toward me and was eventually removed from my classroom. These are the worst examples. I have a lot more positive examples of my students than negative. That being said, I for sure noticed the increase in behavioral issues and a lack of parental involvement. I had several parent-teacher meetings where the parents told me "I don't know what to do with them. When they're at school they're your problem," which was really discouraging to hear. I'm not in the classroom anymore, I tutor and I teach at an after school program. The behavior issues are still there, but it's nicer to be able to have a smaller number of students to worry about instead of the 130+ I used to have.
I'm not a teacher, I'm a student, but wow. I DEFINITELY AGREE with the sexual comment one. This happened when I was in Year 7, a kid made a sexually (AND I MEAN SEXUALLY) INAPPROPRIATE comment to one of the female teachers, leading to him getting removed from class. HE WAS AROUND 12, AND HE WAS IN MY ART CLASS! Now I'm so fucking terrified to go back to school cause of the amount of disrespect, bullying and hostility at my school.. EDIT: I'm really sorry you had to experience that! 😔 🫂
One point about actual gentle parenting is 'setting boundaries' with the children. These children aren't punished or screamed at, but they are taught that there are rules you have to keep to. I was raised in a similar way in the 1970s and 80s, as my parents subscribed to anti-authoritarian parenting. Instead of being beaten or locked up or told I was a horrible person, my parents explained the rules to me. 'Do not touch the stove, you could hurt yourself.' 'Stay by my side when we're out in traffic or you might get run over by a car.' 'Listen to what your teacher tells you, because they're there to teach you stuff and you need to learn things.' My parents themselves also came from a generation who had treated their children badly - most of their parents (in Germany where I'm from) subscribed to actual Nazi methods that told parents not to show empathy or love to their childen (because children who grow up without empathy make for better soldiers). They wanted to do differently and that led to them actually talking to their children, showing them both that they were trustworthy and that they weren't going to hurt them. That doesn't mean there were no consequences for bad behaviour, but they were embedded in the idea of still teaching a child why their behaviour was wrong, so it wasn't about screaming or beating a child (corporeal punishment has been illegal in the classroom here in Germany since around the time I was born). None of my classmates would have acted like Gen Alpha does. None of the teachers (or school administration) would have stood for it.
I just graduated high school and the absolute biggest problem is admin refusing to do anything about student conflicts. There was explicit images and videos of 7th graders floating around and not one person seemed to care.
Being a kid is no excuse for poor and disrespectful behavior. Have they never been taught manners and the concept of respect?? Where are these kid’s parents?! Huge shame on them.
Because of lazy ,irresponsible and incompetent parents , teachers have to be extra responsible and it's not how it should be. Also as a teacher myself gentle parenting is literally the parents trying to heal their inner child and cope with their own parents being unbalancedly strict to them. If you can't afford to follow and parent a child then simply don't have a child.
I HATE parents like that. My son gets to be a silly kid but he is most certainly disciplined and has manners. I don’t tolerate any BS when it comes to being rude. He’s such a sweet boy and I hate seeing parents just… NOT parent.
let's make the distinction tho, gentle parenting is NOT permissive or uninvolved parenting, it's authoritative. It's being there for your child, compassionate, helping them process and teaching them (including boundaries and respect)
@@BlairWytch74it actually is, BlairWytch74. “gentle parenting” has been backed by research. most confuse permissive parenting with gentle parenting when they are NOT exchangeable terms at all. what you see in your daily life that you think isn’t working is actually just permissive parenting and neglect.
@@pinkrunt I don’t experience squat when it comes to parenting as I’ve chosen not to. I don’t really care what you call it, label it or what category you put it in. The parents I observe, especially lately, are lazy and entitled, so it’s a good chance their kids will turn out the same, hence the initial decline of society. People have kids for kudos, not to take care of and be responsible for a whole other human.
my mom spoiled the hell out of me, i was lowkey a spoiled brat, but she also taught me love and acceptance, she taught me basic respect towards others. I was never mean to a teacher, and there was only ONE time i saw a student hit a teacher, it was in 8th grade and a kid threw a chomebook at her. she had to take the rest of the day off and i felt so horrible for her. I loved all my teachers, i treated them like actual human beings, i dont understand what changed from when i was a kid and how i was taught and now.
I remember when I was in grade 6 we had a teacher who was on crutches as he had a disability. Some of the people in my class were pretty feral and would make jokes about it, call him an ape etc. But the year below us, once they had moved up and we moved on to year 7, were EVEN WORSE. I don't know what the hell they did but there were reports that they drove him to tears and he quit teaching. I can't imagine how much worse it is now because this happened 10 years ago.
I have so much disgust for the kids in my class who used to openly insult and degrade our teachers. I NEVER disrespected my teachers even if I didn’t like their opinions or teaching style. And me siding with my teacher and trying to get a disruptive class to quiet down so I could listen to what was being taught, made me the bad guy. I have always respected teachers for doing what they do, because children can be so much to deal with. It’s so hard not to judge millenials for raising spoiled brats.
Same. My brother had a history teacher in 9th with some sort of illness or disorder, I believe Parkinson’s , and he and the rest of the students would relentlessly bully her. It was insane. Students would insult her, curse, pick fights, record stuff in the classroom, throw chairs and other chaotic things. I understand being frustrated with a teacher who can’t teach but it’s sad to see young people being so cruel. My brother wouldn’t actively participate in the bullying p(so he told me) but he would still laugh and call her the r slur and hype up his friends who were doing the same thing. It’s really sad how little empathy and respect kids have for teachers or even anyone with a disability.
I’m currently in school, and I feel so lucky to have parents that teach me basic respect and boundaries. I’ve seen students cuss teachers out, walk out of class, throw chairs at teachers, and *put the entire school on hold by hiding from the staff in the hallways.* It’s absurd. There seems to be three different things going on. Many of these students brag about being grounded and punished at home. They simply *don’t care.* Another section of these students have parents who straight up deny the fact their kids are *horrible* to their teachers. And the last section are the ones who were never told no; the kind that’s most talked about in the video. It’s insane.
What's happening in my city is, people are poor, nobody can afford anything so both parents need to work and kids stay with themselves or grandparents, nobody pays attention to education and phones are being deemed the "solution" for those that can't be there and take care of their childrens, education is being forgotten and now something that's available for both parties in the future will only be available for the wealthy who have money to pay for a teacher/education...
my mom, the most wonderful seventh grade teacher was threatened with violence by a student literally yesterday! would do anything to support her and any other teachers like her just trying to do their job and support kids that they care about
Student here- I had a math class last year (not gen alpha, although they were all on the young end of gen Z) and it was terrible. They weren’t just loud and disruptive to each other, but constantly insulted the teacher. They yelled and rolled on the floor (highschool freshmen), and they directly mocked this teachers accent. She tried so hard to be polite and deal with them, security was called daily, I’m her only trans student in that class and I’m so thankful to her- she took no shit in regards to herself or the class.
I once left a job where the behaviors described here were very common. The difference? I worked in an inpatient psychiatric facility. It is so scary that teachers are being faced with behaviors that we had specific training to deal with at the hospital. I also had an idea of what I was getting into when I took the job, whereas many teachers aren’t expecting this. This is probably a dramatic comparison but this is not how kids should act in school.
Also - we’re now seeing permissive parenting trends (aka rewarding children for bad behaviour) trickle into the school system. Where I worked, they decided that we needed to “respond with a positive approach” to bad behaviour rather than discipline students. “Bad” kids were sent out of the class with a teacher’s aid, but they were taken into the playground to play football. Later, they added another feature to this, where they got an “emotional support” dog which the “bad” kids would be allowed to pet and play with when they got taken out of class. The idea of this was to use up their excess energy and calm them down so they could refocus when they returned to class, especially in the case of autistic/ADHD students. Sweet idea on paper, right? TERRIBLE idea in practice. Because at the beginning of the year, you’d have maybe 2 or 3 kids who got access to this. Then, those 2 or 3 kids would come back into class and brag to the other students about how they got to have fun as a “punishment” for being bad, and soon enough EVERY child in the class would be acting bad in hopes that they’d get to leave class to play football or pet a dog. OBVIOUSLY that was always going to happen. But these kinds of things are thought up by people sitting in offices who haven’t actually been in a classroom for years, so they don’t get it.
I get that restorative justice is a good idea, but sometimes it just seems like school admins either don’t want to do anything or they want to avoid the wrath of parents. I worked as a teacher’s aide and some of the kids I worked with were just terrible. One kid who was so bad went to the principal’s office and came back with candy- which made the other kids think that it was unfair.
THIS!! i think that the “emotional support dog” idea would be great for students that suffer with adhd/autism like you mentioned but like.. shouldnt that just be for people that suffer from panic attacks or whatever? the amount of times that kids are just taught that by being bad theyd get a reward while the “good” kids just… dont get anything? its like the ipad kid problem where theyre just trained to know that being bad = reward
I’m an 8th grader. I’m caught up with most of my classes, except for math. I don’t know what it is about that damn class, but I’m years behind in everything- I have to count number-by-number (including double-checking) if there’s a multiplication fact I don’t know the answer to. I don’t know how to do what we’re doing in class right now, and I feel like everyone’s trying to leave me behind- not just teachers, but students too; I feel like everyone has an easier time than me and can hang on to these skills and facts more easily. Maybe it’s because they don’t zone out in the middle of class on accident, I don’t know- I just feel stupid. I don’t know who or what is wrong I just want to get out of this hellhole. Rinse and repeat, That’s mathematics. Try to memorize (to no avail), spill it out onto a test (that’s blank) and do it again. It feels hopeless. I don’t know if I’m going to make it, hell, even get to college. I’m trying my best and I don’t even know if my best is average. Regardless, I’m praying for you teachers. I see these kinds of kids all the time, and I feel so incredibly sorry you have to go through this. Sending love from a student ❤️
I was a math professor. Most college students are stunted in math at a third grade level. I regret ever getting a PhD in math or ever trying to teach. You’re doing better than average by even admitting you need to work on that skill set.
my mum is a primary school teacher here in the UK and I've heard so many horror stories recently. I'm beginning my teacher training for secondary school soon and am really hoping the older students aren't as bad. Her school has a new rule that they can't wear dangly earrings because the kids assault them so often there's concern they'll get yanked out of their ears!
@@Mary1337 why wouldn’t it be? i’ve never heard of european countries having these kinds of issues. their countries usually value being well educated and well behaved.
I have seen first-hand how an ipad can quite literally ruin a kid if it is not monitored. I think apart of why Gen z was one of the last generations to be somewhat normal in school is because we had the first half of our education without the consumerism of technology to the extent it is today. I have faith however that Gen Z as parents will be more likely to monitor their children on the internet based on their own person experience with the internet in formative years. No 13 year old should be doing the stuff I was doing on the internet at that age, and furthermore I now share my experience with my mother in a very open and honest way because she had NO IDEA and left me unmonitored, I have two younger siblings and the first thing I said to her as soon as I could tell they were developing an interest in the internet, IS DO NOT LET THEM TALK TO STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET. Regardless of who, regardless of who they say they are or what age they say they are. Parents should have a ZERO tolerance for communication with strangers through the internet, they should be monitoring the frequency of technology use, and stressing that getting addicted to the dopamine from your phone or ipad WILL NOT MAKE YOU CONSISTENLY HAPPY but make you CONSISTENLY a boring human being as you get older. The amount of socialization skills, the amount of mental illness I was covering up and hiding from by talking to strangers on the internet is INSANITY. Genuinely if there's one thing these millennial and gen x parents of gen alpha can take from the Gen Z experience, it's that Technology is a great tool, but IT WILL NEVER supplement human connection with your child. If you are seriously giving them the ipad because you don't want to parent or hang out with your child, YOU ARE A BAD PARENT.
I know of multiple former teachers who have quit due to repeatedly being attacked by students. Not only are they out of control but also parents fail to act and the schools do little to protect staff. 10 years ago attacking a teacher was an automatic suspension from the school and a likely expulsion if it was serious enough.
Hey, just want to make a comment on gentle parenting here-no punishment does NOT mean no boundaries or no consequences. That’s why you’re hearing people distinguish it from permissive parenting. The point of no punishment in gentle parenting is to avoid PUNITIVE parenting, focusing instead on trying to understand why kids are acting a certain way and working with them to identify the root of the problem and then resolve it with them. I mean, even in the article you referenced in the video, strong boundaries are mentioned as one of the primary aspects of gentle parenting. Are some parents just letting their kids do whatever and calling it gentle parenting? Absolutely-but we shouldn’t just throw gentle parenting in the trash because of that. We should be making a point to push back and say that what they’re doing ISN’T gentle parenting, it’s just permissive, negligent parenting. I think, generally speaking, it’s a big mistake to put this on parents when it’s a much bigger, much more systemic issue. Why aren’t parents able to be as heavily involved in their kids’ lives and better prepare them for school? Because wages have stagnated and everyone is stretched too thin just trying to financially stay afloat, and they don’t have time or energy for much else after work, and the government provides little to no meaningfully helpful childcare services or stipends. Why are schools just letting these students move on to the next grade? Because their funding is dependent on it-schools get less funding when their students underperform, and being held back is one of the major metrics of that. Another major, major aspect of Gen Alpha being so disruptive and behind is, of course, the pandemic. These are the kids that were never socialized properly, that were isolated at home for many of their formative years, with parents who were trying not only to do their own jobs from home (if they could) but also teach and care for their kids from home. We knew at the time that this would almost certainly have a huge negative impact on that generation, and we’re beginning to see it play out now. Framing this as a parenting failure rather than a failure of the US government to provide childcare services, to ensure that all schools are well-funded, to raise the minimum wage to a point where providing for a family both financially AND emotionally/educationally, is feasible, etc. It feels like a real disservice to the reality of the situation to say that it’s just a simple parenting problem. It, frankly, borders on misinformation to simplify the current problem educators and educational institutions are facing to a parenting problem. Parents absolutely cannot fix any of this unless the system starts trying to fix it, too. This is such an important topic and a really interesting video, but tbh it’s pretty disappointing to see the conclusion just being boiled down to “parents these days aren’t doing their job” when it’s so, so much more complicated than that. And I’m saying all of this as a committed-child free former teacher.
It also is a cultural problem too. It takes a village to raise a child, well the extended families moved out when they got loans to retire elsewhere, so no village is available to raise children.
What makes it worse is when the parents of those kids say it’s “gentle parenting” when that isn’t what gentle parenting is. Gentle parenting parenting is trying to get deep into your kids hearts by trying to understand why they are feeling this way before punishing them. Punishment exists in gentle parenting, it just isn’t physical (like a belt, or other types of physical punishment). It would be taking away privileges or grounding them, and other non-physical discipline. What these horrible parents are talking about is permissive parenting, and it is NOT okay. Gentle parenting is basically just not abusing your kids while trying to connect and actually find ways to help them stop misbehaving. My mom is a gentle parent, but she does yell and punish when she needs to. Sadly she is getting more permissive with my little brother because of her broken leg and suicide headaches + MCAS, but once she feels better she will snap right back. Thank god my dad teaches high school instead of middle or elementary.
I remember, when I was supply teaching, I was teaching a Year 9 geography lesson (13/14 years of age) and the students were endlessly chatting, laughing, getting out of their seats and walking around. All their very easy worksheets remained blank (and it was a good and easy task too of designing a travel brochure for Australia and colouring it in!) I got so sick of it that I said they could leave early for break if they could remain completely silent and eyes forward for 1 single minute. I put a timer on the board. The reward was too good to pass up, so 99% of students gave it a solid go. It wasn’t even 10 seconds in that two boys at the back were looking at each other and laughing. Within 15 seconds someone had pretended to fall out of their chair, getting looks and laughs from most of the class. About half of them remembered the task and refocused. The other half had lost interest - chats started happening, phones came out. And that was only 30 SECONDS IN. Exams here in the UK are strict, turning and trying to communicate with someone (even non-verbally) more than a few times can get your paper shredded and you get a zero. These are the only official exams we take at 15/16 and will decide whether you get into further education or uni. And these kids just don’t feel it’s important enough to stop chatting. If I was an invigilator I’d rip it up in the first instance. But a parent would probably sue me.
Student here, I had to leave mainstream schooling because it was literally impossible to learn. I felt horrible for the poor teachers. It’s like the students couldn’t comprehend that the teachers were also human beings. They couldn’t comprehend that i was a human being. Hate to be that person, but kids these days suck.
I know for Florida, the pay for teachers is absolutely abysmal, especially when you add on the student behavior. I substituted right in the beginning of 2020 and the county I was in were paying substitutes $80 for the whole day, but required that you were halfway through your AA before you could even get the job. So of course they had a shortage of subsitutes too.
Seeing how the local schools are pushed me to just homeschool my child when she hit kindergarten age. I'm just glad I have a great support system (with former and current teachers) so that I can homeschool her.
Absolutely horrid pay here, even in one of the highest paying counties. We just reached a deal for a possible raise, but to be honest, it’s not even really worth that raise when I can make the same amount within five years at another job with less stress. You’d have to be paying teachers at LEAST 100k for most of us to deal with this type of behavior daily, especially when they want you to have master’s degrees and be specialists in all kinds of things.
Parents should limit the amount the time their kids can use technology, as a consequence they will get used and addicted to using an iPad. iPad kids are known to have negative behavior. Bring back traditional activities. Have them go outside,read,color,play with dolls. They don’t learn motor skills from a Tablet! They consume brain rot content online on those Tablets.
People are getting tighter and tighter. I can feel it. We can all feel that terrible big events are coming and people are lashing out in fear and anger.
Former teacher tapping in, I left after TWO years. I taught from 2019-2021 during the height of the pandemic. It’s three factors: PARENTS And the administration, and the DISTRICT. They refuse to hold parents and kids accountable for their behavior. Parents are lazy and aren’t involved and don’t even care about their academics. They don’t want to work with their kids academics, but you have to learn and post videos on TikTok it’s absurd!
also two things- “people think teaching is easy because the summer is off and youre done at 3:15” 1. summer is NOT paid vacation, it is unpaid. 2. teachers start an hour or two earlier and leave an hour or two earlier, the workday is the same length as a 9-5, its just 7-3
about summer being unpaid- this means if you want to keep making money over the summer, you must work a summer job (and many choose more teaching- summer school, coaching, or tutoring)
i babysit for a family with 3 kids under 9. the parents don't teach the kids anything whatsoever, their middle just started kindergarten and last i checked she can't spell her 3 letter name. i've bit spit on and bit for taking their ipad away, screamed at for telling them it was bed time, and the parents just laugh it off and think their kids are so funny. i can't imagine having to spend every single day with kids like this :(
towards the subject of gentle parenting, punishment free doesn't mean consequence free, for example, you spill some juice = I'm gonna yell at you, that's a punishment, where as, you spill some juice = you have you clean it up which might take a little time out of your play time, is a consequence, gentle parenting aims to teach understanding and empathy and create respectful children, however there are a lot of people who just don't parent their kids and say they're gentle parenting which gives it a bad wrap, (toriphantom is a gentle parent on social media that talks about it if anyone's curious)
Let's be honest....quality of life has decreased drastically. Parents and families have limited resources as a whole over the last 5 to 6 years. Tax cuts for the wealthy have depleted public education funds and charters etc are all pulling funding and delivering a range of actual educational value that isn't measurable. When families suffer kids suffer.
Agree. This is another overlooked aspect. It'd be great to have better parenting but when both have to work demanding jobs, if there even is two parents what can be done
Authoritative parenting is being mixed up with permissive parenting, in my opinion. Authoritative parenting is something like: “Okay, let’s clean up our toys!” “No I don’t wanna.” “Okay, bud, I get it you wanna keep playing. But it’s time to clean up so we can get started making dinner. Do you understand?” It listens to the child’s concerns, but doesn’t leave anything without an explanation of why you as a parent are making that decision for the child. It’s not “because I said so” but it’s also not at all “let’s compromise together” Permissive parenting is more like “Okay, let’s clean up our toys!” “No I don’t wanna!” “You don’t wanna? But don’t we want the room all clean and sparkly so we can go make dinner?” “No! No no no no!” “Well… Okay! I’m gonna go start on dinner, and when I come back, then we’ll work together to clean up, okay?” … The child completely said what was gonna happen. The parent conceded without much resistance. That’s permissive parenting, even if neglectful or non present parents also get included in a permissive style. People tend to think permissive parenting is only “Oh? My kid? Yeahh I don’t really know what they’re up to right now, but I’m sure it’s fine. I’m busy with what I’m doing.” Authoritarian parenting is your stereotypical “You’re gonna do what I say when I say it, and that’s it. My house, my rules, you’ll respect them.” But people see the word “authoritative” and think it’s “authoritarian”. Maybe it’s not JUST the children who cannot read?
Terrible students ruin it for the kids that want their education and want to engage in the arts. It really upsets me that one person has to ruin for the rest of us
And I 100% believe it too! Parents are literally only parents in title it seems anymore. I've seen far too many examples around me where they're either too strapped to their jobs making money to notice or just flat out genuinely don't care. The most depressing and frustrating example was when I worked in a daycare for a year. While some of those parents genunely did have to go to work, it was very clear that a majority of them was at home doing nothing, partying, or doing whatever else they wanted while their children were stuck with us for 8-12 hours a day wondering when they were going home. I remember a parent had the nerve to get upset when we demanded that she leaves her hair appointment to come get her baby because he needed his asthma treatments!I've literally watched babies at the end of the day get sick of it and instinctively look at the door to see when their parents were coming. It made me wonder over and over WHY these grown adults consented to the unprotected act of making kids when they didn't want to deal with the reaponsibility of them in the first place? Why? Children would be violent towards other kids and teachers and their parents just would...not...care...they wouldn't care... I hate to say it but it really made me develop a deep seeded disgust towards modern parents now. I stay away from them and their kids like the plague when I can help it because not only do they not care who their poor parenting affects, but it just gives me the impresson that they had their kids solely as a means to get their way when it's convenient for them. Whether it be to use them as a meal ticket or a way to bully other adults into doing what they want, I just automatically view them as bad news now. It's sad, but it's not wanting to be lumped in with people like this that fully cemented my childfree views now.
Honestly I don’t think this attitude is new, I think the difference now is that kids are more isolated than ever, neglectful parents just shove Tv and IPads on their kids faces destroying their attention span and social media brews so much problematic shit I can’t even begin to cover it, so although this attitude is not new, combined with modern circumstances it created a shit storm
It also doesn’t help in Florida that teachers now have to be terrified of accidentally saying something that can get them jailed. Absolutely ridiculous.
I wonder if in the near future parents will be using the data on how many students are held back this year as a marker for a good school. As a parent, who puts so much effort into developing my child's talents and proficiencies, I'd be very unhappy to know that my kid in grade 7 was surrounded by students reading as a fourthgrader. I'd be glad to find a school where the administration holds students back for another year, move them to a slower class etc.
There is a school district in Florida that has changed the discipline code for Fights to now be called “peer conflicts” so that they don’t end up on the news for how many fights there are
I’m having kids but NEVER raising them like this. I’m teaching them. If you see someone getting beaten up and they are innocent help them and stop the person beating on them. No matter if you have to throw hands
Okay I’m am still in school and I know many students that are wayyyyy below grade level. This one fifth grade student is probably the best example. She doesn’tknow how to spell “I am” she spells it as “I an”. She also can’t do math like she thinks 6+3=8 or 100-10=99. She won’t even try to do multiplication or division. She’s not good at any subjects except for gym. Wrost part is in our city you can’t get a f or fail until highschool so she will pass. It’s not just her many students are VERY behind so now I’m worried about our generation.
I have extreme problems with math and numbers and always struggled with it in school, was even put in a special math class for those struggling at one point.... but i knew what 6+3 was. You can easily demonstrate it with toys or candy or rocks or anything, and simply counting how many total you have when you add 3 more to 6. That makes me think that literally nobody ever even tried to explain it to her. Like, her parents completely and utterly failed her as a toddler and so she couldn't understand it when someone else tried to teach her later. Unless she has some severe learning disability. That makes me so sad because it will only get worse and worse as she gets older. She has absolutely no foundational understanding on how numbers work
I work at a treatment center for troubled youth, a residential mental health deal. The overwhelming majority of our clients are there because of their parents. Either from direct abuse, or simple neglect. Kids are great mostly despite their issues, it's the parents you want to strangle sometimes. Really makes the parents that do show up and give a shit stand out.
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video. I’m a gen-z and i’m in my sophomore year of high school currently, but HOLY SHIT i can see all this in my own generation and schools too. Is it nearly as bad? In some aspects, yes, in others, no. It could just be my area, but i live in a middle class, upper middle class, and upper class city, very overpopulated. my high school school has almost 3,000 students, my middle school had a bit under 2,000, and my elementary had around 800. People in my grade (even kids who are in the grade below me) have been AWFUL to me, and many others, and i’ve seen it. A lot of people in my area are rich and preppy, and if you don’t do a sport or some activity and if you don’t have lululemon and stanley and all these trendy expensive things, and if you don’t dress or act like them either, then you WILL be singled out and treated differently. I don’t put up with people’s shit, I speak my mind, i’m more mature, and i have my own style. I also have some mental issues, but i don’t let that stop me. Wanna know what I get from that? I get belittled, talked shit about, bullied, harassed, and more. It’s been like that all my life. Not only are students terrible to each other, but they’re DEFINITELY bad to the teachers too. It was a lot worse when i was in middle school, 100%, but the bullying and gossip is still horrendous. The school system is just overall fucked up in my area, and the kids do NOT help. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. These kids haven’t been raised properly. I wasn’t either, but at least i know decency, respect, and common sense, unlike all the other kids. Is your towns and schools like this as well? Please let me know, because i know i can’t be the only one who’s dealing with/dealt with this shit.
I was 16 when I worked at a daycare. there was this younger child who wore some cowboy boots, and he kicked me in the shins and stomach multiple times. this kid later would choke me months later. I still had to finish the rest of my shift. I just quit that job a year later.
it's wild how students act now. i remember in sixth grade i lied to my teacher saying my stomach hurt to get out of class and i still randomly feel bad abt having done that
I like to think of myself as a good kid, especially in high school (earlier was difficult bc I had undiagnosed adhd but I was never violent or purposely rude), I was quiet and did my work. I was also in IB classes and most of the kids in those classes were nice and respectful towards the teachers. Occasionally I would step into a classroom of non IB students and I was just astonished by how rude a lot of kids were towards the teachers. Now looking at what Gen Alpha is doing I’m just scared honestly. What are these kids going to be like when they’re as big/bigger than the teachers?
One thing that is not being discussed enough is the situation in which teachers with a usual teaching degree are undermined in educating students by some less-qualified teachers who often want to be friends with students, relive their highschool experience, etc. This is not seldomly combined with mansplaining because less-qualified male teachers don't know what they don't know but think that they know better than female teachers who studied it. I sometimes have a very hard time as a female teacher who just started teaching after years of training with such less-qualified teachers who are very arrogant towards me because they have been teaching for some years, whilst they never achieved any pedagogical basis for what they're doing and truly don't have good tips for younger teachers. On top, some of them implicitly teach male students to be disrespectful towards female teachers because they don't behave respectfully towards their female colleagues ... From my POV, this is also something that urgently needs to change, because misogyny is spreading on social media and these male teachers even don't realize their possible contribution to the problem: I have even heard of some male teachers who joke around with their students about annoying modern women, etc., which would never happen the other way around.
The story where the admin is deleting the teachers reports about that kid is super sad because not only are they failing to protect the teacher They’re failing to protect the kid. We had a kid in my school who was very similar to that who would be high all day every day and one day he got taken from school to rehab because I guess our school actually cared about the teachers concerns and the student but like stuff like that is really serious and stuff should not be ignored
I had a 7yr old girl punch my pregnant stomach when I was 6months along and she barely got reprimanded. My teacher assistant was the one that made execs take notice. I ended up having to be monitored in hospital for multiple weeks before delivering a month early
What’s insane to me is that when I was in high school, literally everyone had phones on them, and even would use them in class in moderation. Today, that school had such a massive issue with students just straight up not turning assignments in because of being on their phone during work time that they did a blanket ban where teachers are required to take your phone away until after school. I have no idea where they went wrong, but somewhere someone fucked up wt teaching those students how to moderate phone use. It’s also very frustrating, because some people are coming into the workforce without those skills, which just makes being a manager hell and being an employee so much harder as you have to make up for their lost work.
what those parents are doing ain't gentle parenting, it's abuse. Gentling parenting has to be done right 100% you teach respect and boundaries and explain why no means no it relies on communication, they're also probably acting out cause their parents are emotionally distant from them which is heart breaking :(
I graduated in 2020. the class 2 years behind me had a reputation for being awful that followed them from elementary school through their graduating year. I witnessed the beginning of the shift teachers are talking about now and got to know some of the people causing a lot of trouble, the common thread was parents either treating them poorly or hardly being in the picture at all for various reasons. These are confused, hurt, and lonely kids trying to get emotions out the only way they know how. They need an adult, but try to chase them off because they've been hurt and failed by so many already. The schools also aren't innocent, though. Like the teachers have been saying, school admin does nothing at the best of times. Teachers and staff alike treated disabled and neurodivergent students noticeably different, and many of them were verbally abusive, both of which contributed to students acting out. My highschool had the "rec room" where, instead of any sort of therapeutic approach or any attempt to figure out what the issue was / how to address it, students with behavioral issues (most of whom were already being abused at home) had to go through 7 hours of an old man screaming insults at them and telling them they were beyond help. The rec room noticeably worsened everyone that was sent there.
I’ve worked with kids since I was 16. I even guided middle school at a science camp for an entire fall. during the winter, I wanted to make money, so I signed up to be a sub. My first month of substitute teaching, it was like my 5th time subbing and I had 3 girls try to fight me.
I was never a teacher. But I’ve worked in summer camps for three summers. This last summer I was unit director working with what I believe right now is the older end of gen alpha. And I can’t tell you how different it felt to being a counselor to young gen Z. There is something incredibly different about them and when it’s bad it’s so bad. It lead to extremes of when it was good it was very good but when it was bad it was very bad. The bad group of them made me realize I know longer want to work with children or have kids anymore because of the physical violence and bullying I saw. They quickly realized as a pack that they could make me angry by not listening and pranking me specifically. They made me want to cry and it was honestly worse than the burnout I had because I was struggling at job tasks and with my coworkers (which was eventually resolved).
this is crazy. ever since i was a kid i genuinely loved learning, and i would get so sad when people were disrespectful to the teachers. this behavior is way beyond what i was around in school. no wonder our teachers are tired, they deserve better. they're fundamental to society.
Off topic but not really, I genuinely wonder what is up with these parents. Do they not remember being students themselves? I had my kids young, and they now go to the same elementary I did. They’re literally 20 years removed from me. Half of the staff is still the same people! I remember the current principal, becoming the principal when I was in 3rd grade! Of course I respect them and want my kids to behave properly just as I was expected to for them!
The throwing desks and chairs isn’t new but it may be more common or talked abt, I was born in 07 and kindergarten and first grade was a lot of getting hit by chairs and tables, and they had to install alarm things in each classroom cause the teachers were getting tackled
Honestly this all happened when I was in HS back around 2010 ... I had teachers cry and quit from my school and police stationed. Not security. Police. These kids football chucked text books at teachers so this isn't new unfortunately 😢
Years ago, I spent some time working at a behavioral facility for kiddos. I always thought to myself that people better prepare, because this is going to be the new norm. And people better come to expect some wild shit.
When i was teaching kindergarten a couple years ago one of my students broke my laptop and the mothers only response was "well did you tell her to stop?" She never paid for it
Worst generation from start to finish. They will be the worse seniors but I feel sorry for them because their kids will discard them or abuse them like trash.
Could you give a link to the article you’re reading from at 23:36? That seems really interesting. Great video as always and love the way you lay things out. Teachers deserve far more pay and respect than the government, states, parents, and students show them. These parents gotta step up & put their children’s education and setting boundaries as a higher priority otherwise it’s only going to get worse.
A side effect of this that my friend who is a teacher in the UK has seen is that because so many teachers are leaving due to the stress of working with these kids. The schools cannot afford to fire a teacher. So you get teachers who just do not care, who are terrible at their jobs and who are sometimes even rude and bullying their students but the school cannot afford to fire them. He says the only thing that could get someone fired is if they hit a kid or otherwise were physical with a student. Otherwise they could (and he claims some do) literally sleep on the job and nothing would happen to them.
not sure about the us but in the uk loads of newly qualified social workers are leaving after 1-3 years due to stress and just how awful some people are. where my mum works loads of them have over 20+ cases (max is like 16) because of how many people join and quit because of the behaviour of clients and the amount of conversations my mum has to have with kids about not hitting her or anyone else is mental
What's so frustrating is that it's trendy to talk ab this rn but us teachers have been raising the alarm for YEARS. Since Bush administration. There's SO many layers to this and I never hear people talk ab silicon valley dopamine labs, how capitalism in it's late stage affects parenting, the NCLB act, so many factors, pay gaps ESPECIALLY in south bc govt literally is waging war w teachers there, lack of curricular planning on administrations part that can compete with tech, LACK OF SUPPORT FROM ADMIN. We've BEEN known, just listen to what actual teachers have been saying for years.its exhausting
I still have a bite mark scar from last year. My body is covered in bruises from what I face daily. However, I do not blame the children. I work with little kids; they are unregulated, struggling to figure out how to exist in the world because of their home situation or sometimes untreated/unacknowledged development disabilities. I haven't given up yet; I adore these kids and my job, but I honestly don't know if I can keep going after this year. The hardest part is having parents ignore you or yell at you when you try to address their behaviors.
i'm a late-ish gen z (currently 19, and graduated high school 2 years ago), and my absolute FAVOURITE music teacher quit after a couple of months because one of my classmates and his parents were just so horrible to her. he hated that she taught more theoretical and compositional aspects of music rather than performance, and that she was more out there (she had a phd in music and asked that we refer to her as "doctor" rather than "mrs", and her compositions were the usual artsy contemporary composition fare). i remember crying in class because the rest of my class wanted to do a group performance and just didn't include me (there were 3 singers and a guitarist, and i play violin and viola) and she took me into her office, made me a hot chocolate, and told me i could stay there for the rest of class. she was genuinely such a kind person and great teacher, and i can't believe he bullied her out of her job, and potentially out of the profession altogether, because it really would be a great loss for nobody else to learn under her. my mother is a drama and english teacher at the same school i used to go to, and she's absolutely horrified at the awful behaviour of a lot of her students, how much they're allowed to get away with, and how little they know. she's having to tell 13 - 14 year olds to capitalise words at the start of sentences, it's that bad. and she gets emails from parents asking why kids grades aren't higher, why kids get in trouble for doing the wrong things when their perfect little angel was so CLEARLY in the right, and so on. teachers are treated so poorly and it's awful. i'm only 4 - 5 years older (if that) than the kids engaging in this behaviour and it completely shocks me. i don't know how there can be such a big gap between myself and kids in high school now.
also for further context: i went to a middlingly expensive private school. not the fanciest place around, but an middle to upper class kind of school. i can't even imagine what things might be like in public schools.
I wish I had a teacher like her. I LOVE music theory and composition, and one of my biggest strong points in musical skill is the ability to write music. I cannot believe she was treated like that. If that were me, I would do EVERYTHING she told of me if it meant taking notes on better compositional tips and being made hot chocolate after being left out of a group performance for a mere difference. I feel left out all the time in my school band and am now pursuing a rock music career. I also feel for your mother as well. I would expect an upper middle class family to teach their kids decorum and basically writing skills but that is not what I am seeing in the kids you describe. I am a current senior at my high school and it is a place where the middle schoolers are the ones acting out and high schoolers are simply not given a chance unless they take honors classes. Kids with special needs are below the bottom priority of administration and it has lead to several of them literally making me feel awful for having autism to the point of making me think I was also deranged and mannerless. The system is horrific. I am glad you are out of this school now and hopefully a reform happens to the system. Also, fun fact: the best (Cambridge) school in my county used to not only have a Principal who was willing to enact corporal punishment on me for not being aware of my behaviors (who is still there btw), but also an assistant principal who was charged with MULTIPLE DUIs.
@@WolfgangXP65-67 it's so cool that it worked out for you, even though your highschool experience was shitty! and yeah, i'm a composer myself, and this particular teacher even came to a concert where an ensemble i was in was playing some stuff i wrote/arranged, even after she quit! i almost cried when i saw here there, she was so lovely. i live in australia, and my school only offered music 1 (which is performance based) and not music 2 (which is theory based), which is probably why most of the other students didn't like her. but, like, if you care about music, why not at least TRY to learn about the different theory and aspects of it?
@@whowantstogame that is crazy. In the USA, the music program is the band class throughout the entire high school years, which is more just being given music and performing it. Some schools do it by level based on grade level, skills, or experience, going from "Concert Band" to "Wind Ensemble". In my school, since we are small, we only have one band class. Students don't learn the theory as it is a skill-based activity. They offer a separate class in music theory but it was so unpopular that there was only ONE YEAR it was able to happen. Also, the "best school" I don't go to. The principal attempted me when I was in 1st grade and the assistant principal I heard from a friend who graduated there last year. My school just has a spineless administration and the band program I am part of is extremely provincial and self centered when it came to other schools. During marching season, our band went to a school none of us have been to before and the band pit (whom one of the was special needs and the others were undedicated) were left alone to do anything and the director barely told anyone about the pit. The rest of the band then had to stand on the back of the football field track for about an hour under the blazing heat (Florida is where I live) and it was until then the pit finally showed up. Our director then blamed the school in which everyone but me and my bestie from the program (let's call him Dio cause he JoJo posed during our show that year) would blindly agree and instead of staying for awards (the RIGHT thing to do), they instead ditched the place and went to BUC-EE's to do some corporate indulgence. Since then I was more than ashamed of the program than I ever was before and lost a ton of respect for the director and fellow students due to the disrespect and entitlement as well as the provincial behavior. So yeah, it does seem I have fared well for my experiences. Sorry for the long rant haha.
It amazes me that people don’t understand that parenting styles are like tools, you have to alternate use to the one that best fits. Using one all the time is like trying to drive a nail with a screwdriver.
Not a teacher but I live in Florida and another reason teachers are leaving the classroom here is because the government here has started to take over and micromanage what teachers are allowed to teach and discuss with their students. A LOT of restrictions have been placed on teachers and it has made a lot of them not want to teach from fear of persecution because they talked about something some find "inappropriate" for even high schoolers. They are trying to oppress any and all discussions surrounding LGBTQ+ individuals and families.
I think a lot if gentle parenting is just neglectful parenting. I believe there are plenty if ways we can discipline children that doesn't include physical violence towards them, but that doesn't mean they are free from consequences. Time outs and digital time limits should absolutely be continued to be used
I dated a girl who is a teacher and she told me about one particular student (I think 4th grade?) she had who would intimidate her, bite her, stab her with pencils, harass other students, bring up inappropriate conversations in class circles, engage in /dangerous/ behavior...and she STILL fought for this kid to get in to a program outside of regular school because it was very obvious he was mentally ill and needed specialists. The parent resisted and resisted, all while this teacher was enduring harassment. She was treating this student like a human being, the student was treating the teacher like a target, and the parent was treating the teacher like nuisance. And she STILL. got this kid! into a program! within MONTHS. A free program that will increase the odds he isn't a danger to himself or others, keep him out of the school to prison pipeline, keep him farther from cops, get him to learn skills where he can advocate for himself. Obviously that is the better option than having a kid be amongst others he can influence and hurt! Fuck it still drives me up the wall to think about.
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My parents being called was the BIGGEST THREAT when I was a kid, now the parents defend their kids being outwardly violent towards others, it’s horrifying
If teacher or admin told me that they were going to call my parents, I would cry. Idk how these kids do it or how the parents ignore it.
@@Hello-n7b dude same I remembered bawling my eyes out the one & only time I got a referral, full blown mental breakdown/panic attack, literally these kids have absolutely NO respect for anyone, that’s clear as day
Literally I was way more afraid about getting in trouble with parents than with teachers
Same bro, I was so worried at my PTM even tho I was a good student
@@Vexlich I'd fucking have a heart attack and beg, plead and cry and be teachers lil angel to change their mind. How can they not fear the reprecussions?
And the saddest part about these teachers quitting bc of student behavior is that the kids think it’s a flex to piss off their teacher to the point of quitting. They think it’s funny. We’re doomed, yall
and these lunatics will be adults soon…that is terrifying! they’re going to be super unhinged and dangerous
to be fair as a kid even I thought it was a flex if it was an asshole teacher like recess from the 90s getting finster fired if they could
My English teacher literally did nothing wrong and yet either quit or got fired after one year of teaching for my school. Kids talked in front of me about bullying her, the gossip about her was so bad they were banned from talking about her in one class and made fake names so they could continue. I loved her as a teacher, but I can see why she left.
I had a great teacher but the students were horrible to him. He almost quit and was gone for a month. The students actually asked for him back. I and a few of the students that liked him spoke up for him and mentioned how horrible he kids were to him. When he did come back the class bought him a meal for lunch and even applauded his return. He was shocked. But this was in the mid 2000s. I started working in the 2010s in a school and Gen Z was a disaster. It has only gotten worse now with Alpha. We need a cultural shift.
@@domerino-ft6sd The issue is every kid thinks they're you, but none of them comprehend that they could, in fact, be the asshole in some situations.
I'm not a teacher but I work in a retail store that primarily targets an age group that tends to have children. And the amount of kids who yell and scream whenever their phone or tablet is taken from them, they've thrown stuff either to their parents or me and my coworkers, etc. It's concerning how so many of gen alphas parents openly neglect them and how gen alpha responds to it.
Yeah it seems like parents don't have much control with them either
Almost every toddler at the grocery store I work at is staring at their phone, it’s crazy.
I'm a cashier and damn the amount of kids streaming about not getting what they want is insane 😭 I feel bad these kids have terrible parents
I work retail too and I’m not surprised at their behavior I mean look at their parents🥴🥴 the amount times I’ve seen these adults throw tantrums over something so small is concerning. I’ve had customers get mad at me because their card wasn’t working. I’ve had these adults yell at me all because the item wasn’t on clearance
@@Jessica.Shawnte yes it's quite saddening how immature so many people are nowadays 😭, it's like the adults that like to call themselves adult children decided to truly never grow up.
I thought that I was going to be a teacher for the rest of my life. Then a student strangled and nearly killed me. My spine was broken, and my spinal cord was damaged. I got spinal surgery, but I still need a wheelchair, and I will never be able to work again. Teaching should not be such a dangerous profession.
@@katiephillips8543 I hope that pos rots in jail for what they did to you. It is absolutely inexcusable for a student to put their hands on a teacher like that
OMG!! That is freaking heartbreaking. I bet you were an amazing teacher too. I hope that you will or have found some type of peace, a new dream. You deserve it ❤
Because teachers can get put in jail for defending themselves and the kids know that so they think they have free reign to do whatever they want and the law supports that. That kid should be in jail for attempted murder.
@@toohauteforyou Simply touching a student can get you fired. My ex almost got fired for putting a hand gently on a girl trying to calm her down. She freaked out and her mom wanted to sue my wife. Welcome to modern teaching.
I'm so sorry that was done to you. I can't imagine the trauma. Did the school expel the student? Did the student go to jail?
Teachers if these kids are putting their hands on yall or throwing WHOLE ASS DESKS and none of the adults want to discipline these kids, yall just gotta start pressing charges cause this is insane behavior.
Tbh I agree, kids want to act like that, they need to have legit consequences+ correctional rehabilitation because something is not going write in that development
If I had a kid and they acted like that, I'd consider revoking custody and sending them off to an orphanage, because either I'm so hopelessly incompetent as a parent that I'm creating a monster or the kid was born as a monster and there's nothing I can do to make them a good person.
I'm not a teacher, but I work at a school as the day custodian. It does start at home. Years ago, we had a kid who was SO ADDICTED TO SCREENS that he would run and grab teachers' phones. When I first met him, the counselor was there and warned me that he would do that. I looked this kid in the eyes and said, "My phone is in my butt pocket. If someone tried getting my phone, they are touching my butt, and I will defend myself from being touched in inappropriate places." And the kid never took my phone or tried. No one had ever point blank told him no. It would always be something like 'oh, (name), we dont do that, it makes others sad!' People need to lay down hard boundaries and stick to them. Some admin refuses and that is what causes the issues. Not all the time, but that is my experience.
YES i love it!! im a preschool teacher and firm and consistent boundaries are SO important. children dont understand being yelled at, but they also wont learn if theyre coddled. a boundary and an explanation the child can understand is exactly how i handle things and it transformed my classroom. imagine if it was applied at home too, the kids would be on such a good track!!! i appreciate the work you do, custodians make teaching possible (kids make way too much mess for one person to handle lol)
This right here! You put the fear of god in them kids on day one and they learn real quick. And then we can all settle down and learn. But that tech addiction these days is real. These kids spend zero time not staring into a screen. The ones who have parents that know better are a million times more prepared than those that don’t.
this is so beautifully spoken and you handled it the right way!! being firm and collected is such an essential for children and they will totally respect you! major props to you!
And not everyone runs based off empathy- some kids need to hear "no, that is NOT ok. You are harming me, that is not allowed," because their braijs function better hearing logic as opposed to why it hurts someone's feelings. I'm hyper empathetic, seeing someone hurt by my actions would make me cry as a kid. But not all kids are that way, you have to use what works best for the kid and set a firm boundary in both ways. Ofc it's hard to do when you also struggle to teach due to lack of funding....
I hate when people baby kids like that, that has scientifically shown that can affect some kids, you shouldn't baby kids after they become a little older than 6 months it can mentally affect some stuff. children who are 5+ are absolutely able to understand no by that point, and they need to be told a firm no if they are crossing boundaries or doing something dangerous.
When I was in school, disrespecting teachers was unimaginable. Even the worst behaved kids would never do such things to a teacher.
Only the special ed kids ever acted up like that
@@2okaycola in my school even they wouldn’t do such things
@@2okaycolayeah. I knew a couple people in the ‘special ed’ class (god do I hate that term as a disabled person), and they would sometimes have meltdowns. One even tried to whip his penis out when he couldn’t play with his ball (I can’t blame him though, he didn’t function well and probably needed more help than he was getting). I think the huge problem that causes that is that many SPED kids (or at least nowadays, not talking about the past) are iPad kids. Before the iPad was invented, they most likely were not getting the help they needed, which caused frequent meltdowns. It breaks my heart, to be honest. One of my friends are in special Ed, and I’ve seen the nightmare that is the other kids. I could never be a teacher there.
@@2okaycola im special ed and i was always well behaved to teachers. I think some kids are just assholes
the "worst" would be a kid maybe talking back to a teacher or making a smart ass remark and it would only be once and then they were sent to the office or detention and no one else dared to even try that again. The thought of physically harming a teacher was completely out of everyone's minds. No one would have dared to try any of this stuff when I was in school. It's shocking.
I went to school in 2000s. The worst behavior was a kid talking to another kid while teacher was giving a lecture. After being asked to be quiet, kid went quiet.
Again. This was the worst behavior we had back then.
As someone born in 2002, I am inclined to agree, although I can’t help but think I witnessed some warning signs, because in highschool it got worse. I remember it wasn’t just talking anymore, it was outright ignoring the teachers. Hell, one of my teacher’s went out of the class room for five minutes and a few kids got up, one blocked the door with a desk, another went and drew and wrote on the board. Again, she was gone for like, five minutes and when she got back she was understandably furious because she could outright hear them talking and laughing from down the hall. It’s horrendous how things changed over time.
As someone born in 2001 my school(mainly high school and the UK equivalent to middle school which is just early high school) was already like the gen alphas to the point where students were running around in class, dancing on tables and throwing chairs, swearing at teachers, but I lived in rural Scotland lol.
i was born in 2004 so i went to school later than you did and i can agree that there wasn't a common culture of violence or disrespect, but some students did swear at their teachers or were violent with them (notably one kid i was in a class with in middle school threw one of those metal desk/chair combos at the teacher). i think the main difference is not what happens but the lack of action about it. when students see that they can do anything they want and not really face consequences for it, more students will act out. whenever people acted out when i was in school there was the threat of disciplinary action and schools were not afraid to suspend people. now, when the threats are empty, nothing changes.
As a teacher, I'd cry tears of joy if they stopped talking during lectures the first time they're told
@@existential_horror5045yep.
My mom is a teacher at a university in Sweden. She's been telling me for YEARS about how they constantly have to lower the bar for passing their students because otherwise, almost none of them would make it to the next year. She told me once about a student fresh out of the swedish equivalent of high school/collage that didn't understand fractions and how to move a variable from one side of an equation to the other. My mom is a math and physics teacher, and someone who didn't understand fractions was able to make it to her class because of the lowered the bar for passing students so much.
Oh, gods no. It's spreading. I never thought Scandinavian countries would be infected by our stupidity. I sincerely apologize.
And then people turn around and say “schools are just so EVIL and AUTHORITARIAN and how dare you tell children what to do?? Do you think you know better than them??” Or people in their 20s talk about how horrible school is and I’m like… what are you even talking about. And all the bullying may have been somewhat lessened by, idk, supervision and or consequences but nooo. Edit: if anyone is curious, you can read "Dumbing Down: The Crisis of Quality and Equity in a Once-Great School System -- and How to Reverse the Trend" which is open access, particularly ch 6 is interesting, this has been going on for a very long time.
I live in central/eastern Europe, and my father also works at an university, except he teaches history/archeology. he keeps telling me the SAME story about how they have to keep lowering the standards or else no one would pass (barely anyone does anyway). he tells me all about how bachelor papers are all worse than the papers i write for highschool, and how no one even cares about the studies and just wants the degree (which im not surprised about honestly). this is absolutely crazy
As someone who gets mostly A’s in my university it sometimes makes me wonder if I even deserved it because of the need of “lowering standards”. I’m not sure that anyone will take me seriously in the future because of it.
If covid taught me anything, it's that most people don't WANT to be around their kids. People sent their kids back to school while the pandemic was still ongoing because they were tired of dealing with them. I saw the social media posts from the parents.
People have to work 2-3 jobs just to live, they have no idea what's going on with their children. This makes me think of interview's of parents of incarcerated kids who have committed mass shootings. Parents always say "I had NO IDEA," "I had NO CLUE," until people are able to go home and give their families attention, this will get worse.
I’m glad you brought this up, with how little the US gov invests in childcare, the low wages, inflation, you’re right some parents are often not able to be at home or be as present because they’re worked to the bone. This issue is so complex, it’s crazy where we’ve gotten
That's so true. I might be 1/2 remembering but I think there was some study that said the more that toddlers talk to their parents or even just passively listen to older ppl talk the better their comprehension skills and grades are when they're in school. So everybody having a 2nd job and a side hustle is probably affecting the kids.
YESSSSSSSS exactly my thoughts! Kids are literally held captive for HOURS and treated like actual prisoners the parallells between jail and school are insane and we are now surprised when theyre all snapping and can't take it. How can you be calm and at peace when you get barely any sleep, barely any time to yourself, and you're literally held in a chair and not allowed to eat I don't know why people are surprised at this point but of course they're going to blame phones and the generation instead of the insanely abusive school system that never improves... school could be such a great happy experience kids love learning, kids inherantly want to do good but the school system sets them up as guilty captives with no rights it is INHUMANE
when I am burntout extremely tired and hungry I am NOT myself, and take into consideration underdiagnosed or misdiagnosed neurodivergence that is not being acknowledged or accomodated.. schools are not properly staffed to be able to actually handle the needs of these kids, and the amount adults have to work, the needs are not even being met at home, so none of this should come as a surprise
@@Turt13princess… I appreciate this perspective so much! As a parent to a neurodivergent kiddo who can easily be seen as the “bad”/misbehaving student- it’s nice to have some acknowledgement that schools/teachers don’t always have the time or resources to work with these students. I do my due diligence & have my son in occupational & behavioral therapy to help with skill building and emotional regulation etc.
My son has gotten aggressive with a long term sub he had 2 years ago & I will never defend any type of aggression or getting physical. But I recognize that most ppl don’t know how to help calm down my kiddo/emotionally regulate which can make these outburst 1,000 worse
High school student here, I can confirm that this same behavior goes on in high school as well. My class, and the surrounding ones, are unruly and out of control. We've lost so many sweet and passionate teachers because of them. It's just sad.
I'm not sure why people are acting like this issue is exclusive to gen alpha/late gen z. I'm middle gen z and my entire schooling experience, even in college, can be summed up with the issues everyone is talking about gen alpha having. Hell, I was addicted to my phone and clocked out in middle school, I just needed straight As and a record of good behavior so my parents' abuse wouldn't get worse, I was actively apart of the same problem. It's been like this since I started elementary school in 2009-2010, and even pre-k to an extent from what I can remember.
@@izzybennet.t I think you may be missing the link of sadly common unruly behavior of some students in classrooms vs the overwhelmingly state of many unruly students and the unruliness having worsened in recent years
@@jennamallow correct me if I'm wrong, but this issue applies to high schoolers and late middle schoolers, so gen z who border alpha and middle gen z? I assure you I am not missing anything, I'm explaining why it's wrong that we look at this problem like it's a new issue and not the progressive degradation of parenting and the school systems that have been happening for many years at this point.
Absolutely concerning. It's honestly just sad. Even the kids in higher-level classes sometimes just refuse to do any work, even in electives. I'm the video editor for TV production at my school, and my teacher has talked about the constant struggle to just get kids off their phones and motivated. And this is probably the person who cares about his subject the most in the school. If it's like this for classes that... don't require any effort outside of class, I can't imagine what it's like for classes that do require that amount of passion.
@@izzybennet.tWhile this point has been talked about For almost a decade people used to call names to anyone trying to adress the topic, it's Now that issues are out of hand that people are finally getting the point.
I called it quits but one of the biggest moments that got to me was my first day with preschoolers. One of the kids decided to come up to me and tell me over and over “I’m gonna have my dad shoot you dead” while his friend went and sat on the floor and pissed herself. And the entire time I was trying to get help from one of the experienced teachers or even my boss but no one came. When I tried talking about the little boy I kept getting “oh he just says that” from my boss, and got in trouble for trying to talk to the parents about it. I hate working with kids now.
Former teacher here - while not every child I’ve worked with has done this, there is definitely WAY more inappropriate and vicious behavior being learned / tolerated / underreported to & from children of all ages, even (for my personal experience) as young as TWO YEARS OLD. 2!!!!! 2 years old!!!! I had a 2 year PINCH TWIST AND BITE me! Because he was already slapping a classmate who was NAPPING & we went to move him to a calm space we had set up in the room. His parents do not care. They told us “he doesn’t seem to do that at home!” And completely brushed it off despite now multiple parents and my fellow teachers complaining and reporting. So sad dude. That is LEARNED behavior. Not to mention a kindergartener calling me a slur and stabbing me with a pencil in my previous school system, and a 13 year old throwing a legitimate temper tantrum because he didn’t want to put his phone away. I wish I was joking. This is primarily the adult’s around us causing this. Learned behavior and lack of love. Complacency no boundaries and enabling. That’s what’s causing these babies to grow up so viciously and unhealthy. Just rips my heart out. 😞❤
That's learned behavior
but that also means he probably feels safe to act out at school,
Most likley arnt allowed to at home,
Me and my sister would act out at our moms house
but acted like "little soilder children" with our dad
My grandmother would always say that to us
It is sad, they basically are masking at home 100% of the time 😢
These kids don’t know how to regulate their emotions and problem solve 😢
@@Thebeezzkneezz.that’s not necessarily true. Most of these “parents” have a “nobody can tell me ish” attitude that their kids pick up on and know that their parents will not step up if they misbehave. These kids know there will not be consequences. I just saw a kid cussing up a storm in the deli and the mom was yelling “mind your business” at anyone who looked their way 🤦🏽♀️
"He doesn't do this at home..."
Ma'am, I'll bet 10 dollars it's because you give him a tablet or phone instead of making him nap for an hour.
That or you just "can't say 'no' to THAT FACE"...
I had a preschooler tell me on my first day over and over “I’m gonna have my dad shoot you dead” while his friend went and sat on the floor and pissed herself. I kept trying to get help on the radio but my boss and none of the other teachers came. Oh and my bosses response “he just says that” and reprimanded me for trying to talk to the parents about it.
I agree, I was a teacher for three years and my last class is what made me leave teaching completely. To this day, almost two years later, I still have nightmares about teaching. The behavior, the parents who do not discipline or guide their kids at all, and the sheer amount of disrespect makes me never want to teach ever again
as a psych minor, one of the biggest focus in my classes is learning. kids NEED consequences to learn. parents can give their kids consequences for their actions without being harmful. and its also explaining to kids what they did wrong as well. if a kid sees a parent will follow through with punishment and have been taught and explained what appropriate and inappropriate behavior is young, theyre less likely to be horribly behaved because they KNOW that their will be a consequence
Also - lack of “punishment” does not mean zero discipline. I’m 💯💯a gentle parenter. Kids all need boundaries/discipline/consequences in order to thrive.I hate that gentle parenting gets such as bad rap, but it makes sense!
@@GLee-dt8ybIf it weren’t weak parenting, you would have no need to call it gentle. Anyways, society prefers a kid that’s a little broken than a kid will too much confidence. Humans are resilient and need hardship to become true empathetic individuals. People who feel safe all the time grow up to tell those who had it harder to get over themselves and work harder.
@@GLee-dt8yb completely get that! in my classes we use the term punishment when learning about conditioning/ behavior so its the term i used here but the idea is the same. an example from one of my classes: if a child throws their tablet for, and the parent explains why thats a wrong thing to do and take it away, it would be considered negative punishment since its a consequence of an action where something is removed. so pretty much the same thing just like a random terminology fact!
Exactly! My mom never hit me but she would withhold and allowance or take away our videogames if we misbehaved. It wasn’t harmful at all and I was taught I couldn’t just do what I wanted without consequences.
Not to forget that what you don't learn in childhood and as a teenager, you won't just magically know as an adult.
That SpongeBob clip was perfect. I saw a post yesterday that kindergarten students didn't even know their name for rollcall.
There’s always a SpongeBob clip for ANY scenario
What they don't know their own name bruh
I work in an industry related to schools and teachers and seeing the shortage in teachers at schools in real time is terrifying. Last summer, a coworker realized her 11 year old son basically missed an entire year of math because the school didn’t have a teacher and there was no long term sub placed there. So there were days where the kids were just given packets but no one could verify their work or even show them how to do it.
But on the flip side, that same coworker had a daughter who then was coming out of kindergarten (so at the time, the summer before she’d go into first grade) and my coworker was ranting about how the school gave her child a “chapter book” for the kids to read over the summer. And she decided that that was too advanced for her little girl and wasn’t going to make her read it. When I didn’t respond (aka, I didn’t affirm that she was right to do that), she must have sensed my disapproval because then she added “well, she reads other things. She had lots of books in her room she’ll read.” And then every day we saw each other after she’d tell me about her 6 year old staying up all night playing video games or watching yt videos. Yeah, I trust you’re making her read alright.
Her daughter is now having major behavioral issues, throwing full blown tantrums and kicking and screaming when she needs to leave the house. And my coworker is screaming at her husband to get melatonin gummies to give her so she’ll sleep instead of putting her on a consistent night routine. When I was her age, I was in bed at 8 every night (except Fridays and Saturdays where we could stay up until 9 lol), whether it was a holiday, summer, etc. We were on a schedule and there was no arguing.
Millennial parents think having zero boundaries with kids is going to make us the traumatizing and toxic parents our parents were. The last time I saw my coworker, she was arguing with her husband because he gave up trying to get their daughter to leave the house for cheer practice, and he legit said “I don’t want to traumatize her.” Bruh, she is not going to be sitting in a therapists office ten or fifteen years from now saying she’s traumatized by her parents dragging her out of the house to go to cheer practice. A real therapist would explore why she felt the need to throw those tantrums as a child. These parents are so afraid of doing harm that they don’t even try. I’ve watched this same coworker undermine punishments her husband tried to give their daughter for similar behavior in the past (throwing tantrums and lying to get out of going to school) by letting her daughter have the very thing he banned her from.
No routine, no discipline, no boundaries, and therefore they get no respect from their children. And then wonder why they can’t control them. My mother wasn’t perfect and def made mistakes, but the routines I had as a child allowed me to at least be a productive member of society once I became an adult. Can you imagine these kids as doctors or lawyers or even teachers themselves as adults? I sure can’t.
The united front is the absolute minimum, what rules you teach is secondary, most important is that all adults in kid's life are on the same page. You can't create enviroment where child can or can't do specific thing depended who is watching, otherwise how will they know what is actually bad? 24h access to entertaiment is not great either. Sure we millenials spend some (a lot of) time in front of tv, but to watch your fav show/Cartoon you had to tune in on specific time, which teached a little pantience and also some time managment 😂In Polish public TV there was specific spot called dobranocka that was Huge help for parents, since it's end was widly recognized by little Poles as the call for getting to bed. People are giving kids tablets cause they think youtube or streaming is not really so diffrent, but the fact everything is on demand now and not squeduled programming is making huge diffrence. Kids have no boundries and delays of pleasure either from their parents or from the media, so how they can suddenly lit into tigthly time managed school life and not have problem with it.
I don't know about you, but I trust I will no longer be here when this generation gets into the White House. THEN you people will no longer have a country.
Forget being doctors or lawyers, it sounds like these kids won't be able to handle a simple cashier job
Gentle parenting should be free of punishment but not free of consequences and discipline. That’s how I in my country learned about what gentle parenting is.
True. Gentle and permissive are not the same.
Gentle parenting is just parenting. It didn't need rebranding. Gentle parenting is permissive parenting 9.9 out of 10 times because Millenials are too "Traumatized" to put boundaries.
@@Auurify if you think millennials are bad look at gen z please.
@Kate8that
>makes claim
>cites no sources
Grow up and stop playing the blame game. Idgaf what generation you are, we are supposed to be in this together. Generation wars are a disease on humanity.
@@Kate8that what about gen z huh? Most of us are not parents yet and we WERE raised with the knowledge our actions have consequences
I feel genuinely sorry for those teachers, they and the Gen Alpha kids deserve better.
I work with 1st graders and let me tell you… these kids are DISRESPECTFUL, I’ve been spit on and laughed at for the way I look. I had a student tell me that he’s just not going to do his homework because his mom will just do it for him.
i’m so sorry :( you deserve so much better, you’re real beautiful!
Gosh, people, if you can’t handle to go out of your way to actually teach your children how to behave and do your job as a parent, just don’t have kids.
Hate to say it, but a lot of them probably didn't plan to... 😶
Unfortunately people have completely disconnected secks from having kids, so people are really just not being responsible about it at all and then they have kids they don’t want. Sad
@@just.a.guy324 also some straight up don't see children as people or as future people at the least, they're just little more than vanity accessories and thus they don't treat with little more care than a pet
I realized that fellow parents must be nightmares when, not one, not two, but THREE different teachers had tears in their eyes over the most basic acts of kindness (I literally gave them each a small bag of generic brand things for the classroom like wipes, paper towels, etc) and said yes to a social story about my daughter’s communication device being told in class so her classmates have a story to relate to her device for more understanding. That’s it.
Also the shock on their faces when I ask if my kids behaved that day. Like I actually care and would do something about it… of course I would care! They can’t be disrupting their own or others education progress!
i'm in my final year of uni and about to go off and do teacher training for high school history. i'm not even religious but i'm praying morning noon and night after watching this video. i'm so passionate about teaching and seeing other people have that spark die is a BAD sign
My girlfriend is in school to learn to teach currently. if a student hurts her I’m pressing charges, throwing hands, screaming from the rooftops. I’m so scared for her, honestly.
She’s also doing high school history!
it’s not the gentle parenting
its neglectful parenting, ipad parenting and them not learning boundaries
I was a high school teacher in a public school for 3 years. I loved my students, and I loved my school, but there were definite problems. I had a book thrown at my head one time. I had students cuss me out regularly. One student threatened to beat me up several times. One student made sexually inappropriate comments toward me and was eventually removed from my classroom. These are the worst examples. I have a lot more positive examples of my students than negative. That being said, I for sure noticed the increase in behavioral issues and a lack of parental involvement. I had several parent-teacher meetings where the parents told me "I don't know what to do with them. When they're at school they're your problem," which was really discouraging to hear. I'm not in the classroom anymore, I tutor and I teach at an after school program. The behavior issues are still there, but it's nicer to be able to have a smaller number of students to worry about instead of the 130+ I used to have.
I'm not a teacher, I'm a student, but wow. I DEFINITELY AGREE with the sexual comment one. This happened when I was in Year 7, a kid made a sexually (AND I MEAN SEXUALLY) INAPPROPRIATE comment to one of the female teachers, leading to him getting removed from class. HE WAS AROUND 12, AND HE WAS IN MY ART CLASS! Now I'm so fucking terrified to go back to school cause of the amount of disrespect, bullying and hostility at my school..
EDIT: I'm really sorry you had to experience that! 😔 🫂
One point about actual gentle parenting is 'setting boundaries' with the children. These children aren't punished or screamed at, but they are taught that there are rules you have to keep to.
I was raised in a similar way in the 1970s and 80s, as my parents subscribed to anti-authoritarian parenting. Instead of being beaten or locked up or told I was a horrible person, my parents explained the rules to me. 'Do not touch the stove, you could hurt yourself.' 'Stay by my side when we're out in traffic or you might get run over by a car.' 'Listen to what your teacher tells you, because they're there to teach you stuff and you need to learn things.' My parents themselves also came from a generation who had treated their children badly - most of their parents (in Germany where I'm from) subscribed to actual Nazi methods that told parents not to show empathy or love to their childen (because children who grow up without empathy make for better soldiers). They wanted to do differently and that led to them actually talking to their children, showing them both that they were trustworthy and that they weren't going to hurt them.
That doesn't mean there were no consequences for bad behaviour, but they were embedded in the idea of still teaching a child why their behaviour was wrong, so it wasn't about screaming or beating a child (corporeal punishment has been illegal in the classroom here in Germany since around the time I was born). None of my classmates would have acted like Gen Alpha does. None of the teachers (or school administration) would have stood for it.
I just graduated high school and the absolute biggest problem is admin refusing to do anything about student conflicts. There was explicit images and videos of 7th graders floating around and not one person seemed to care.
Being a kid is no excuse for poor and disrespectful behavior. Have they never been taught manners and the concept of respect?? Where are these kid’s parents?! Huge shame on them.
Because of lazy ,irresponsible and incompetent parents , teachers have to be extra responsible and it's not how it should be. Also as a teacher myself gentle parenting is literally the parents trying to heal their inner child and cope with their own parents being unbalancedly strict to them. If you can't afford to follow and parent a child then simply don't have a child.
I HATE parents like that. My son gets to be a silly kid but he is most certainly disciplined and has manners. I don’t tolerate any BS when it comes to being rude. He’s such a sweet boy and I hate seeing parents just… NOT parent.
let's make the distinction tho, gentle parenting is NOT permissive or uninvolved parenting, it's authoritative. It's being there for your child, compassionate, helping them process and teaching them (including boundaries and respect)
@@vanesasteves6922it isn’t working very well.
@@BlairWytch74it actually is, BlairWytch74. “gentle parenting” has been backed by research. most confuse permissive parenting with gentle parenting when they are NOT exchangeable terms at all. what you see in your daily life that you think isn’t working is actually just permissive parenting and neglect.
@@pinkrunt I don’t experience squat when it comes to parenting as I’ve chosen not to. I don’t really care what you call it, label it or what category you put it in. The parents I observe, especially lately, are lazy and entitled, so it’s a good chance their kids will turn out the same, hence the initial decline of society. People have kids for kudos, not to take care of and be responsible for a whole other human.
my mom spoiled the hell out of me, i was lowkey a spoiled brat, but she also taught me love and acceptance, she taught me basic respect towards others. I was never mean to a teacher, and there was only ONE time i saw a student hit a teacher, it was in 8th grade and a kid threw a chomebook at her. she had to take the rest of the day off and i felt so horrible for her. I loved all my teachers, i treated them like actual human beings, i dont understand what changed from when i was a kid and how i was taught and now.
I remember when I was in grade 6 we had a teacher who was on crutches as he had a disability. Some of the people in my class were pretty feral and would make jokes about it, call him an ape etc. But the year below us, once they had moved up and we moved on to year 7, were EVEN WORSE. I don't know what the hell they did but there were reports that they drove him to tears and he quit teaching. I can't imagine how much worse it is now because this happened 10 years ago.
I have so much disgust for the kids in my class who used to openly insult and degrade our teachers. I NEVER disrespected my teachers even if I didn’t like their opinions or teaching style. And me siding with my teacher and trying to get a disruptive class to quiet down so I could listen to what was being taught, made me the bad guy. I have always respected teachers for doing what they do, because children can be so much to deal with. It’s so hard not to judge millenials for raising spoiled brats.
Same. My brother had a history teacher in 9th with some sort of illness or disorder, I believe Parkinson’s , and he and the rest of the students would relentlessly bully her. It was insane. Students would insult her, curse, pick fights, record stuff in the classroom, throw chairs and other chaotic things. I understand being frustrated with a teacher who can’t teach but it’s sad to see young people being so cruel. My brother wouldn’t actively participate in the bullying p(so he told me) but he would still laugh and call her the r slur and hype up his friends who were doing the same thing. It’s really sad how little empathy and respect kids have for teachers or even anyone with a disability.
I’m currently in school, and I feel so lucky to have parents that teach me basic respect and boundaries. I’ve seen students cuss teachers out, walk out of class, throw chairs at teachers, and *put the entire school on hold by hiding from the staff in the hallways.* It’s absurd.
There seems to be three different things going on. Many of these students brag about being grounded and punished at home. They simply *don’t care.*
Another section of these students have parents who straight up deny the fact their kids are *horrible* to their teachers.
And the last section are the ones who were never told no; the kind that’s most talked about in the video. It’s insane.
I'm very glad you see the value of respect and boundaries, honestly those things are what make life work. Hope you remain on that path
Bruh I am on the edge of gen alpha and gen z and I would never do that
Not even in the autistic kid in my school would do that that kid definitely was never told no
What's happening in my city is, people are poor, nobody can afford anything so both parents need to work and kids stay with themselves or grandparents, nobody pays attention to education and phones are being deemed the "solution" for those that can't be there and take care of their childrens, education is being forgotten and now something that's available for both parties in the future will only be available for the wealthy who have money to pay for a teacher/education...
my mom, the most wonderful seventh grade teacher was threatened with violence by a student literally yesterday! would do anything to support her and any other teachers like her just trying to do their job and support kids that they care about
Student here- I had a math class last year (not gen alpha, although they were all on the young end of gen Z) and it was terrible.
They weren’t just loud and disruptive to each other, but constantly insulted the teacher. They yelled and rolled on the floor (highschool freshmen), and they directly mocked this teachers accent.
She tried so hard to be polite and deal with them, security was called daily, I’m her only trans student in that class and I’m so thankful to her- she took no shit in regards to herself or the class.
As a high school freshman, I'm sorry
As a Gen z adult, Jesus. People need to learn respect.
I once left a job where the behaviors described here were very common. The difference? I worked in an inpatient psychiatric facility. It is so scary that teachers are being faced with behaviors that we had specific training to deal with at the hospital. I also had an idea of what I was getting into when I took the job, whereas many teachers aren’t expecting this. This is probably a dramatic comparison but this is not how kids should act in school.
Also - we’re now seeing permissive parenting trends (aka rewarding children for bad behaviour) trickle into the school system.
Where I worked, they decided that we needed to “respond with a positive approach” to bad behaviour rather than discipline students. “Bad” kids were sent out of the class with a teacher’s aid, but they were taken into the playground to play football. Later, they added another feature to this, where they got an “emotional support” dog which the “bad” kids would be allowed to pet and play with when they got taken out of class.
The idea of this was to use up their excess energy and calm them down so they could refocus when they returned to class, especially in the case of autistic/ADHD students. Sweet idea on paper, right? TERRIBLE idea in practice. Because at the beginning of the year, you’d have maybe 2 or 3 kids who got access to this. Then, those 2 or 3 kids would come back into class and brag to the other students about how they got to have fun as a “punishment” for being bad, and soon enough EVERY child in the class would be acting bad in hopes that they’d get to leave class to play football or pet a dog. OBVIOUSLY that was always going to happen. But these kinds of things are thought up by people sitting in offices who haven’t actually been in a classroom for years, so they don’t get it.
I get that restorative justice is a good idea, but sometimes it just seems like school admins either don’t want to do anything or they want to avoid the wrath of parents. I worked as a teacher’s aide and some of the kids I worked with were just terrible. One kid who was so bad went to the principal’s office and came back with candy- which made the other kids think that it was unfair.
THIS!! i think that the “emotional support dog” idea would be great for students that suffer with adhd/autism like you mentioned but like.. shouldnt that just be for people that suffer from panic attacks or whatever? the amount of times that kids are just taught that by being bad theyd get a reward while the “good” kids just… dont get anything? its like the ipad kid problem where theyre just trained to know that being bad = reward
I’m an 8th grader. I’m caught up with most of my classes, except for math. I don’t know what it is about that damn class, but I’m years behind in everything- I have to count number-by-number (including double-checking) if there’s a multiplication fact I don’t know the answer to. I don’t know how to do what we’re doing in class right now, and I feel like everyone’s trying to leave me behind- not just teachers, but students too; I feel like everyone has an easier time than me and can hang on to these skills and facts more easily. Maybe it’s because they don’t zone out in the middle of class on accident, I don’t know- I just feel stupid. I don’t know who or what is wrong I just want to get out of this hellhole.
Rinse and repeat, That’s mathematics. Try to memorize (to no avail), spill it out onto a test (that’s blank) and do it again. It feels hopeless. I don’t know if I’m going to make it, hell, even get to college.
I’m trying my best and I don’t even know if my best is average.
Regardless, I’m praying for you teachers. I see these kinds of kids all the time, and I feel so incredibly sorry you have to go through this.
Sending love from a student ❤️
I was a math professor. Most college students are stunted in math at a third grade level. I regret ever getting a PhD in math or ever trying to teach. You’re doing better than average by even admitting you need to work on that skill set.
as a hs freshman this year, I can confirm that some of my classmates last year had less academic knowledge than my bff’s 4th grade sister
my mum is a primary school teacher here in the UK and I've heard so many horror stories recently. I'm beginning my teacher training for secondary school soon and am really hoping the older students aren't as bad. Her school has a new rule that they can't wear dangly earrings because the kids assault them so often there's concern they'll get yanked out of their ears!
wow i thought this was just an american problem….sad to see that american idiocy is spreading
secondary is just as bad, especially when the kids your mum teaches end up in your class
@@coolchameleon21 Why would it be?
@@Mary1337 why wouldn’t it be? i’ve never heard of european countries having these kinds of issues. their countries usually value being well educated and well behaved.
@@coolchameleon21Here in Germany a lot of kids are also really poorly behaved.
I have seen first-hand how an ipad can quite literally ruin a kid if it is not monitored. I think apart of why Gen z was one of the last generations to be somewhat normal in school is because we had the first half of our education without the consumerism of technology to the extent it is today. I have faith however that Gen Z as parents will be more likely to monitor their children on the internet based on their own person experience with the internet in formative years. No 13 year old should be doing the stuff I was doing on the internet at that age, and furthermore I now share my experience with my mother in a very open and honest way because she had NO IDEA and left me unmonitored, I have two younger siblings and the first thing I said to her as soon as I could tell they were developing an interest in the internet, IS DO NOT LET THEM TALK TO STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET. Regardless of who, regardless of who they say they are or what age they say they are. Parents should have a ZERO tolerance for communication with strangers through the internet, they should be monitoring the frequency of technology use, and stressing that getting addicted to the dopamine from your phone or ipad WILL NOT MAKE YOU CONSISTENLY HAPPY but make you CONSISTENLY a boring human being as you get older. The amount of socialization skills, the amount of mental illness I was covering up and hiding from by talking to strangers on the internet is INSANITY. Genuinely if there's one thing these millennial and gen x parents of gen alpha can take from the Gen Z experience, it's that Technology is a great tool, but IT WILL NEVER supplement human connection with your child. If you are seriously giving them the ipad because you don't want to parent or hang out with your child, YOU ARE A BAD PARENT.
I know of multiple former teachers who have quit due to repeatedly being attacked by students. Not only are they out of control but also parents fail to act and the schools do little to protect staff. 10 years ago attacking a teacher was an automatic suspension from the school and a likely expulsion if it was serious enough.
Hey, just want to make a comment on gentle parenting here-no punishment does NOT mean no boundaries or no consequences. That’s why you’re hearing people distinguish it from permissive parenting. The point of no punishment in gentle parenting is to avoid PUNITIVE parenting, focusing instead on trying to understand why kids are acting a certain way and working with them to identify the root of the problem and then resolve it with them. I mean, even in the article you referenced in the video, strong boundaries are mentioned as one of the primary aspects of gentle parenting. Are some parents just letting their kids do whatever and calling it gentle parenting? Absolutely-but we shouldn’t just throw gentle parenting in the trash because of that. We should be making a point to push back and say that what they’re doing ISN’T gentle parenting, it’s just permissive, negligent parenting.
I think, generally speaking, it’s a big mistake to put this on parents when it’s a much bigger, much more systemic issue. Why aren’t parents able to be as heavily involved in their kids’ lives and better prepare them for school? Because wages have stagnated and everyone is stretched too thin just trying to financially stay afloat, and they don’t have time or energy for much else after work, and the government provides little to no meaningfully helpful childcare services or stipends. Why are schools just letting these students move on to the next grade? Because their funding is dependent on it-schools get less funding when their students underperform, and being held back is one of the major metrics of that.
Another major, major aspect of Gen Alpha being so disruptive and behind is, of course, the pandemic. These are the kids that were never socialized properly, that were isolated at home for many of their formative years, with parents who were trying not only to do their own jobs from home (if they could) but also teach and care for their kids from home. We knew at the time that this would almost certainly have a huge negative impact on that generation, and we’re beginning to see it play out now.
Framing this as a parenting failure rather than a failure of the US government to provide childcare services, to ensure that all schools are well-funded, to raise the minimum wage to a point where providing for a family both financially AND emotionally/educationally, is feasible, etc. It feels like a real disservice to the reality of the situation to say that it’s just a simple parenting problem. It, frankly, borders on misinformation to simplify the current problem educators and educational institutions are facing to a parenting problem. Parents absolutely cannot fix any of this unless the system starts trying to fix it, too. This is such an important topic and a really interesting video, but tbh it’s pretty disappointing to see the conclusion just being boiled down to “parents these days aren’t doing their job” when it’s so, so much more complicated than that. And I’m saying all of this as a committed-child free former teacher.
It also is a cultural problem too. It takes a village to raise a child, well the extended families moved out when they got loans to retire elsewhere, so no village is available to raise children.
What makes it worse is when the parents of those kids say it’s “gentle parenting” when that isn’t what gentle parenting is. Gentle parenting parenting is trying to get deep into your kids hearts by trying to understand why they are feeling this way before punishing them. Punishment exists in gentle parenting, it just isn’t physical (like a belt, or other types of physical punishment). It would be taking away privileges or grounding them, and other non-physical discipline. What these horrible parents are talking about is permissive parenting, and it is NOT okay. Gentle parenting is basically just not abusing your kids while trying to connect and actually find ways to help them stop misbehaving.
My mom is a gentle parent, but she does yell and punish when she needs to. Sadly she is getting more permissive with my little brother because of her broken leg and suicide headaches + MCAS, but once she feels better she will snap right back. Thank god my dad teaches high school instead of middle or elementary.
I remember, when I was supply teaching, I was teaching a Year 9 geography lesson (13/14 years of age) and the students were endlessly chatting, laughing, getting out of their seats and walking around. All their very easy worksheets remained blank (and it was a good and easy task too of designing a travel brochure for Australia and colouring it in!) I got so sick of it that I said they could leave early for break if they could remain completely silent and eyes forward for 1 single minute. I put a timer on the board. The reward was too good to pass up, so 99% of students gave it a solid go. It wasn’t even 10 seconds in that two boys at the back were looking at each other and laughing. Within 15 seconds someone had pretended to fall out of their chair, getting looks and laughs from most of the class. About half of them remembered the task and refocused. The other half had lost interest - chats started happening, phones came out. And that was only 30 SECONDS IN.
Exams here in the UK are strict, turning and trying to communicate with someone (even non-verbally) more than a few times can get your paper shredded and you get a zero. These are the only official exams we take at 15/16 and will decide whether you get into further education or uni. And these kids just don’t feel it’s important enough to stop chatting. If I was an invigilator I’d rip it up in the first instance. But a parent would probably sue me.
Student here, I had to leave mainstream schooling because it was literally impossible to learn. I felt horrible for the poor teachers. It’s like the students couldn’t comprehend that the teachers were also human beings. They couldn’t comprehend that i was a human being. Hate to be that person, but kids these days suck.
I know for Florida, the pay for teachers is absolutely abysmal, especially when you add on the student behavior. I substituted right in the beginning of 2020 and the county I was in were paying substitutes $80 for the whole day, but required that you were halfway through your AA before you could even get the job. So of course they had a shortage of subsitutes too.
Seeing how the local schools are pushed me to just homeschool my child when she hit kindergarten age. I'm just glad I have a great support system (with former and current teachers) so that I can homeschool her.
Absolutely horrid pay here, even in one of the highest paying counties. We just reached a deal for a possible raise, but to be honest, it’s not even really worth that raise when I can make the same amount within five years at another job with less stress. You’d have to be paying teachers at LEAST 100k for most of us to deal with this type of behavior daily, especially when they want you to have master’s degrees and be specialists in all kinds of things.
Parents should limit the amount the time their kids can use technology, as a consequence they will get used and addicted to using an iPad. iPad kids are known to have negative behavior. Bring back traditional activities. Have them go outside,read,color,play with dolls. They don’t learn motor skills from a Tablet! They consume brain rot content online on those Tablets.
people stopped gaf after covid i swear
People are getting tighter and tighter. I can feel it. We can all feel that terrible big events are coming and people are lashing out in fear and anger.
Former teacher tapping in,
I left after TWO years. I taught from 2019-2021 during the height of the pandemic. It’s three factors: PARENTS And the administration, and the DISTRICT. They refuse to hold parents and kids accountable for their behavior. Parents are lazy and aren’t involved and don’t even care about their academics. They don’t want to work with their kids academics, but you have to learn and post videos on TikTok it’s absurd!
also two things- “people think teaching is easy because the summer is off and youre done at 3:15” 1. summer is NOT paid vacation, it is unpaid. 2. teachers start an hour or two earlier and leave an hour or two earlier, the workday is the same length as a 9-5, its just 7-3
about summer being unpaid- this means if you want to keep making money over the summer, you must work a summer job (and many choose more teaching- summer school, coaching, or tutoring)
i babysit for a family with 3 kids under 9. the parents don't teach the kids anything whatsoever, their middle just started kindergarten and last i checked she can't spell her 3 letter name. i've bit spit on and bit for taking their ipad away, screamed at for telling them it was bed time, and the parents just laugh it off and think their kids are so funny. i can't imagine having to spend every single day with kids like this :(
towards the subject of gentle parenting, punishment free doesn't mean consequence free, for example, you spill some juice = I'm gonna yell at you, that's a punishment, where as, you spill some juice = you have you clean it up which might take a little time out of your play time, is a consequence, gentle parenting aims to teach understanding and empathy and create respectful children, however there are a lot of people who just don't parent their kids and say they're gentle parenting which gives it a bad wrap, (toriphantom is a gentle parent on social media that talks about it if anyone's curious)
Let's be honest....quality of life has decreased drastically. Parents and families have limited resources as a whole over the last 5 to 6 years. Tax cuts for the wealthy have depleted public education funds and charters etc are all pulling funding and delivering a range of actual educational value that isn't measurable. When families suffer kids suffer.
Agree. This is another overlooked aspect. It'd be great to have better parenting but when both have to work demanding jobs, if there even is two parents what can be done
Authoritative parenting is being mixed up with permissive parenting, in my opinion. Authoritative parenting is something like:
“Okay, let’s clean up our toys!”
“No I don’t wanna.”
“Okay, bud, I get it you wanna keep playing. But it’s time to clean up so we can get started making dinner. Do you understand?”
It listens to the child’s concerns, but doesn’t leave anything without an explanation of why you as a parent are making that decision for the child. It’s not “because I said so” but it’s also not at all “let’s compromise together”
Permissive parenting is more like
“Okay, let’s clean up our toys!”
“No I don’t wanna!”
“You don’t wanna? But don’t we want the room all clean and sparkly so we can go make dinner?”
“No! No no no no!”
“Well… Okay! I’m gonna go start on dinner, and when I come back, then we’ll work together to clean up, okay?”
… The child completely said what was gonna happen. The parent conceded without much resistance. That’s permissive parenting, even if neglectful or non present parents also get included in a permissive style. People tend to think permissive parenting is only “Oh? My kid? Yeahh I don’t really know what they’re up to right now, but I’m sure it’s fine. I’m busy with what I’m doing.”
Authoritarian parenting is your stereotypical “You’re gonna do what I say when I say it, and that’s it. My house, my rules, you’ll respect them.” But people see the word “authoritative” and think it’s “authoritarian”. Maybe it’s not JUST the children who cannot read?
Terrible students ruin it for the kids that want their education and want to engage in the arts. It really upsets me that one person has to ruin for the rest of us
And I 100% believe it too! Parents are literally only parents in title it seems anymore. I've seen far too many examples around me where they're either too strapped to their jobs making money to notice or just flat out genuinely don't care. The most depressing and frustrating example was when I worked in a daycare for a year. While some of those parents genunely did have to go to work, it was very clear that a majority of them was at home doing nothing, partying, or doing whatever else they wanted while their children were stuck with us for 8-12 hours a day wondering when they were going home. I remember a parent had the nerve to get upset when we demanded that she leaves her hair appointment to come get her baby because he needed his asthma treatments!I've literally watched babies at the end of the day get sick of it and instinctively look at the door to see when their parents were coming. It made me wonder over and over WHY these grown adults consented to the unprotected act of making kids when they didn't want to deal with the reaponsibility of them in the first place? Why?
Children would be violent towards other kids and teachers and their parents just would...not...care...they wouldn't care... I hate to say it but it really made me develop a deep seeded disgust towards modern parents now. I stay away from them and their kids like the plague when I can help it because not only do they not care who their poor parenting affects, but it just gives me the impresson that they had their kids solely as a means to get their way when it's convenient for them. Whether it be to use them as a meal ticket or a way to bully other adults into doing what they want, I just automatically view them as bad news now.
It's sad, but it's not wanting to be lumped in with people like this that fully cemented my childfree views now.
Honestly I don’t think this attitude is new, I think the difference now is that kids are more isolated than ever, neglectful parents just shove Tv and IPads on their kids faces destroying their attention span and social media brews so much problematic shit I can’t even begin to cover it, so although this attitude is not new, combined with modern circumstances it created a shit storm
It also doesn’t help in Florida that teachers now have to be terrified of accidentally saying something that can get them jailed. Absolutely ridiculous.
Well when the state is headed by people who think all teachers are communists who want to turn your son trans, what do you expect?
I would be pressing charges if I was that stapler teacher. Screw admin
more teachers should press charges. maybe these horrible parents will get a clue then
I wonder if in the near future parents will be using the data on how many students are held back this year as a marker for a good school. As a parent, who puts so much effort into developing my child's talents and proficiencies, I'd be very unhappy to know that my kid in grade 7 was surrounded by students reading as a fourthgrader. I'd be glad to find a school where the administration holds students back for another year, move them to a slower class etc.
There is a school district in Florida that has changed the discipline code for Fights to now be called “peer conflicts” so that they don’t end up on the news for how many fights there are
I’m having kids but NEVER raising them like this. I’m teaching them. If you see someone getting beaten up and they are innocent help them and stop the person beating on them. No matter if you have to throw hands
Okay I’m am still in school and I know many students that are wayyyyy below grade level. This one fifth grade student is probably the best example. She doesn’tknow how to spell “I am” she spells it as “I an”. She also can’t do math like she thinks 6+3=8 or 100-10=99. She won’t even try to do multiplication or division. She’s not good at any subjects except for gym. Wrost part is in our city you can’t get a f or fail until highschool so she will pass. It’s not just her many students are VERY behind so now I’m worried about our generation.
I have extreme problems with math and numbers and always struggled with it in school, was even put in a special math class for those struggling at one point.... but i knew what 6+3 was. You can easily demonstrate it with toys or candy or rocks or anything, and simply counting how many total you have when you add 3 more to 6. That makes me think that literally nobody ever even tried to explain it to her. Like, her parents completely and utterly failed her as a toddler and so she couldn't understand it when someone else tried to teach her later. Unless she has some severe learning disability. That makes me so sad because it will only get worse and worse as she gets older. She has absolutely no foundational understanding on how numbers work
@@slitheen3this. I have severe math struggles (struggle with even basic long division), and even I know that 2x2 equals 4. Let alone addition.
I work at a treatment center for troubled youth, a residential mental health deal. The overwhelming majority of our clients are there because of their parents. Either from direct abuse, or simple neglect. Kids are great mostly despite their issues, it's the parents you want to strangle sometimes.
Really makes the parents that do show up and give a shit stand out.
Thank you for making this. I just started picking up my 6th grade sibling from school and now I know what I need to do while he’s at my house.
I've been teaching for 4 years now and they've got me ready to quit and go BACK to college for a different degree. It's too much
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video.
I’m a gen-z and i’m in my sophomore year of high school currently, but HOLY SHIT i can see all this in my own generation and schools too.
Is it nearly as bad? In some aspects, yes, in others, no. It could just be my area, but i live in a middle class, upper middle class, and upper class city, very overpopulated. my high school school has almost 3,000 students, my middle school had a bit under 2,000, and my elementary had around 800.
People in my grade (even kids who are in the grade below me) have been AWFUL to me, and many others, and i’ve seen it. A lot of people in my area are rich and preppy, and if you don’t do a sport or some activity and if you don’t have lululemon and stanley and all these trendy expensive things, and if you don’t dress or act like them either, then you WILL be singled out and treated differently.
I don’t put up with people’s shit, I speak my mind, i’m more mature, and i have my own style. I also have some mental issues, but i don’t let that stop me. Wanna know what I get from that?
I get belittled, talked shit about, bullied, harassed, and more. It’s been like that all my life.
Not only are students terrible to each other, but they’re DEFINITELY bad to the teachers too. It was a lot worse when i was in middle school, 100%, but the bullying and gossip is still horrendous.
The school system is just overall fucked up in my area, and the kids do NOT help. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. These kids haven’t been raised properly. I wasn’t either, but at least i know decency, respect, and common sense, unlike all the other kids.
Is your towns and schools like this as well? Please let me know, because i know i can’t be the only one who’s dealing with/dealt with this shit.
I was 16 when I worked at a daycare. there was this younger child who wore some cowboy boots, and he kicked me in the shins and stomach multiple times. this kid later would choke me months later. I still had to finish the rest of my shift. I just quit that job a year later.
I wouldnt dare to take those kids on the magic school bus. Just expose the magic on tik-tok or something
it's wild how students act now. i remember in sixth grade i lied to my teacher saying my stomach hurt to get out of class and i still randomly feel bad abt having done that
I like to think of myself as a good kid, especially in high school (earlier was difficult bc I had undiagnosed adhd but I was never violent or purposely rude), I was quiet and did my work. I was also in IB classes and most of the kids in those classes were nice and respectful towards the teachers. Occasionally I would step into a classroom of non IB students and I was just astonished by how rude a lot of kids were towards the teachers. Now looking at what Gen Alpha is doing I’m just scared honestly. What are these kids going to be like when they’re as big/bigger than the teachers?
One thing that is not being discussed enough is the situation in which teachers with a usual teaching degree are undermined in educating students by some less-qualified teachers who often want to be friends with students, relive their highschool experience, etc.
This is not seldomly combined with mansplaining because less-qualified male teachers don't know what they don't know but think that they know better than female teachers who studied it.
I sometimes have a very hard time as a female teacher who just started teaching after years of training with such less-qualified teachers who are very arrogant towards me because they have been teaching for some years, whilst they never achieved any pedagogical basis for what they're doing and truly don't have good tips for younger teachers.
On top, some of them implicitly teach male students to be disrespectful towards female teachers because they don't behave respectfully towards their female colleagues ... From my POV, this is also something that urgently needs to change, because misogyny is spreading on social media and these male teachers even don't realize their possible contribution to the problem: I have even heard of some male teachers who joke around with their students about annoying modern women, etc., which would never happen the other way around.
The story where the admin is deleting the teachers reports about that kid is super sad because not only are they failing to protect the teacher They’re failing to protect the kid. We had a kid in my school who was very similar to that who would be high all day every day and one day he got taken from school to rehab because I guess our school actually cared about the teachers concerns and the student but like stuff like that is really serious and stuff should not be ignored
Thank you for getting the generation right it's not Gen Z it's Gen Alpha we always get confused with them
I had a 7yr old girl punch my pregnant stomach when I was 6months along and she barely got reprimanded. My teacher assistant was the one that made execs take notice. I ended up having to be monitored in hospital for multiple weeks before delivering a month early
What’s insane to me is that when I was in high school, literally everyone had phones on them, and even would use them in class in moderation. Today, that school had such a massive issue with students just straight up not turning assignments in because of being on their phone during work time that they did a blanket ban where teachers are required to take your phone away until after school. I have no idea where they went wrong, but somewhere someone fucked up wt teaching those students how to moderate phone use. It’s also very frustrating, because some people are coming into the workforce without those skills, which just makes being a manager hell and being an employee so much harder as you have to make up for their lost work.
what those parents are doing ain't gentle parenting, it's abuse. Gentling parenting has to be done right 100% you teach respect and boundaries and explain why no means no it relies on communication, they're also probably acting out cause their parents are emotionally distant from them which is heart breaking :(
I graduated in 2020. the class 2 years behind me had a reputation for being awful that followed them from elementary school through their graduating year. I witnessed the beginning of the shift teachers are talking about now and got to know some of the people causing a lot of trouble, the common thread was parents either treating them poorly or hardly being in the picture at all for various reasons. These are confused, hurt, and lonely kids trying to get emotions out the only way they know how. They need an adult, but try to chase them off because they've been hurt and failed by so many already.
The schools also aren't innocent, though. Like the teachers have been saying, school admin does nothing at the best of times. Teachers and staff alike treated disabled and neurodivergent students noticeably different, and many of them were verbally abusive, both of which contributed to students acting out. My highschool had the "rec room" where, instead of any sort of therapeutic approach or any attempt to figure out what the issue was / how to address it, students with behavioral issues (most of whom were already being abused at home) had to go through 7 hours of an old man screaming insults at them and telling them they were beyond help. The rec room noticeably worsened everyone that was sent there.
I saw a work comp claim where a teacher got hit in the head with a brick by one of their students, absolutely insane what teachers deal with nowadays
I’ve worked with kids since I was 16. I even guided middle school at a science camp for an entire fall. during the winter, I wanted to make money, so I signed up to be a sub. My first month of substitute teaching, it was like my 5th time subbing and I had 3 girls try to fight me.
I was never a teacher. But I’ve worked in summer camps for three summers. This last summer I was unit director working with what I believe right now is the older end of gen alpha. And I can’t tell you how different it felt to being a counselor to young gen Z. There is something incredibly different about them and when it’s bad it’s so bad. It lead to extremes of when it was good it was very good but when it was bad it was very bad. The bad group of them made me realize I know longer want to work with children or have kids anymore because of the physical violence and bullying I saw. They quickly realized as a pack that they could make me angry by not listening and pranking me specifically. They made me want to cry and it was honestly worse than the burnout I had because I was struggling at job tasks and with my coworkers (which was eventually resolved).
this is crazy. ever since i was a kid i genuinely loved learning, and i would get so sad when people were disrespectful to the teachers. this behavior is way beyond what i was around in school. no wonder our teachers are tired, they deserve better. they're fundamental to society.
Off topic but not really, I genuinely wonder what is up with these parents. Do they not remember being students themselves? I had my kids young, and they now go to the same elementary I did. They’re literally 20 years removed from me. Half of the staff is still the same people! I remember the current principal, becoming the principal when I was in 3rd grade! Of course I respect them and want my kids to behave properly just as I was expected to for them!
The throwing desks and chairs isn’t new but it may be more common or talked abt, I was born in 07 and kindergarten and first grade was a lot of getting hit by chairs and tables, and they had to install alarm things in each classroom cause the teachers were getting tackled
Honestly this all happened when I was in HS back around 2010 ... I had teachers cry and quit from my school and police stationed. Not security. Police. These kids football chucked text books at teachers so this isn't new unfortunately 😢
Years ago, I spent some time working at a behavioral facility for kiddos. I always thought to myself that people better prepare, because this is going to be the new norm. And people better come to expect some wild shit.
When i was teaching kindergarten a couple years ago one of my students broke my laptop and the mothers only response was "well did you tell her to stop?" She never paid for it
Millenials have failed as parents.
fr. millennials complain about their boomer parents, but they’re 10 times worse.
Worst generation from start to finish. They will be the worse seniors but I feel sorry for them because their kids will discard them or abuse them like trash.
Could you give a link to the article you’re reading from at 23:36? That seems really interesting.
Great video as always and love the way you lay things out.
Teachers deserve far more pay and respect than the government, states, parents, and students show them. These parents gotta step up & put their children’s education and setting boundaries as a higher priority otherwise it’s only going to get worse.
thank you! here's the link: www.teachersoftomorrow.org/blog/insights/teacher-shortages-in-the-us/#:~:text=Many%20states%20are%20filling%20vacancies,aspiring%20educators%20to%20obtain%20certification.
The average teacher life span is like 2-4 years before they go get another job. Anything, even mcdonalds to get away.
A side effect of this that my friend who is a teacher in the UK has seen is that because so many teachers are leaving due to the stress of working with these kids. The schools cannot afford to fire a teacher. So you get teachers who just do not care, who are terrible at their jobs and who are sometimes even rude and bullying their students but the school cannot afford to fire them. He says the only thing that could get someone fired is if they hit a kid or otherwise were physical with a student. Otherwise they could (and he claims some do) literally sleep on the job and nothing would happen to them.
not sure about the us but in the uk loads of newly qualified social workers are leaving after 1-3 years due to stress and just how awful some people are. where my mum works loads of them have over 20+ cases (max is like 16) because of how many people join and quit because of the behaviour of clients and the amount of conversations my mum has to have with kids about not hitting her or anyone else is mental
What's so frustrating is that it's trendy to talk ab this rn but us teachers have been raising the alarm for YEARS. Since Bush administration. There's SO many layers to this and I never hear people talk ab silicon valley dopamine labs, how capitalism in it's late stage affects parenting, the NCLB act, so many factors, pay gaps ESPECIALLY in south bc govt literally is waging war w teachers there, lack of curricular planning on administrations part that can compete with tech, LACK OF SUPPORT FROM ADMIN. We've BEEN known, just listen to what actual teachers have been saying for years.its exhausting
I still have a bite mark scar from last year. My body is covered in bruises from what I face daily. However, I do not blame the children. I work with little kids; they are unregulated, struggling to figure out how to exist in the world because of their home situation or sometimes untreated/unacknowledged development disabilities. I haven't given up yet; I adore these kids and my job, but I honestly don't know if I can keep going after this year. The hardest part is having parents ignore you or yell at you when you try to address their behaviors.
i'm a late-ish gen z (currently 19, and graduated high school 2 years ago), and my absolute FAVOURITE music teacher quit after a couple of months because one of my classmates and his parents were just so horrible to her. he hated that she taught more theoretical and compositional aspects of music rather than performance, and that she was more out there (she had a phd in music and asked that we refer to her as "doctor" rather than "mrs", and her compositions were the usual artsy contemporary composition fare). i remember crying in class because the rest of my class wanted to do a group performance and just didn't include me (there were 3 singers and a guitarist, and i play violin and viola) and she took me into her office, made me a hot chocolate, and told me i could stay there for the rest of class. she was genuinely such a kind person and great teacher, and i can't believe he bullied her out of her job, and potentially out of the profession altogether, because it really would be a great loss for nobody else to learn under her.
my mother is a drama and english teacher at the same school i used to go to, and she's absolutely horrified at the awful behaviour of a lot of her students, how much they're allowed to get away with, and how little they know. she's having to tell 13 - 14 year olds to capitalise words at the start of sentences, it's that bad. and she gets emails from parents asking why kids grades aren't higher, why kids get in trouble for doing the wrong things when their perfect little angel was so CLEARLY in the right, and so on.
teachers are treated so poorly and it's awful. i'm only 4 - 5 years older (if that) than the kids engaging in this behaviour and it completely shocks me. i don't know how there can be such a big gap between myself and kids in high school now.
also for further context: i went to a middlingly expensive private school. not the fanciest place around, but an middle to upper class kind of school. i can't even imagine what things might be like in public schools.
I wish I had a teacher like her. I LOVE music theory and composition, and one of my biggest strong points in musical skill is the ability to write music. I cannot believe she was treated like that. If that were me, I would do EVERYTHING she told of me if it meant taking notes on better compositional tips and being made hot chocolate after being left out of a group performance for a mere difference. I feel left out all the time in my school band and am now pursuing a rock music career. I also feel for your mother as well. I would expect an upper middle class family to teach their kids decorum and basically writing skills but that is not what I am seeing in the kids you describe. I am a current senior at my high school and it is a place where the middle schoolers are the ones acting out and high schoolers are simply not given a chance unless they take honors classes. Kids with special needs are below the bottom priority of administration and it has lead to several of them literally making me feel awful for having autism to the point of making me think I was also deranged and mannerless. The system is horrific. I am glad you are out of this school now and hopefully a reform happens to the system.
Also, fun fact: the best (Cambridge) school in my county used to not only have a Principal who was willing to enact corporal punishment on me for not being aware of my behaviors (who is still there btw), but also an assistant principal who was charged with MULTIPLE DUIs.
@@WolfgangXP65-67 it's so cool that it worked out for you, even though your highschool experience was shitty!
and yeah, i'm a composer myself, and this particular teacher even came to a concert where an ensemble i was in was playing some stuff i wrote/arranged, even after she quit! i almost cried when i saw here there, she was so lovely. i live in australia, and my school only offered music 1 (which is performance based) and not music 2 (which is theory based), which is probably why most of the other students didn't like her. but, like, if you care about music, why not at least TRY to learn about the different theory and aspects of it?
@@whowantstogame that is crazy. In the USA, the music program is the band class throughout the entire high school years, which is more just being given music and performing it. Some schools do it by level based on grade level, skills, or experience, going from "Concert Band" to "Wind Ensemble". In my school, since we are small, we only have one band class. Students don't learn the theory as it is a skill-based activity. They offer a separate class in music theory but it was so unpopular that there was only ONE YEAR it was able to happen. Also, the "best school" I don't go to. The principal attempted me when I was in 1st grade and the assistant principal I heard from a friend who graduated there last year. My school just has a spineless administration and the band program I am part of is extremely provincial and self centered when it came to other schools. During marching season, our band went to a school none of us have been to before and the band pit (whom one of the was special needs and the others were undedicated) were left alone to do anything and the director barely told anyone about the pit. The rest of the band then had to stand on the back of the football field track for about an hour under the blazing heat (Florida is where I live) and it was until then the pit finally showed up. Our director then blamed the school in which everyone but me and my bestie from the program (let's call him Dio cause he JoJo posed during our show that year) would blindly agree and instead of staying for awards (the RIGHT thing to do), they instead ditched the place and went to BUC-EE's to do some corporate indulgence. Since then I was more than ashamed of the program than I ever was before and lost a ton of respect for the director and fellow students due to the disrespect and entitlement as well as the provincial behavior. So yeah, it does seem I have fared well for my experiences. Sorry for the long rant haha.
It’s disgusting that parents can’t take responsibility for their
It amazes me that people don’t understand that parenting styles are like tools, you have to alternate use to the one that best fits. Using one all the time is like trying to drive a nail with a screwdriver.
Not a teacher but I live in Florida and another reason teachers are leaving the classroom here is because the government here has started to take over and micromanage what teachers are allowed to teach and discuss with their students. A LOT of restrictions have been placed on teachers and it has made a lot of them not want to teach from fear of persecution because they talked about something some find "inappropriate" for even high schoolers. They are trying to oppress any and all discussions surrounding LGBTQ+ individuals and families.
I think a lot if gentle parenting is just neglectful parenting. I believe there are plenty if ways we can discipline children that doesn't include physical violence towards them, but that doesn't mean they are free from consequences. Time outs and digital time limits should absolutely be continued to be used
I dated a girl who is a teacher and she told me about one particular student (I think 4th grade?) she had who would intimidate her, bite her, stab her with pencils, harass other students, bring up inappropriate conversations in class circles, engage in /dangerous/ behavior...and she STILL fought for this kid to get in to a program outside of regular school because it was very obvious he was mentally ill and needed specialists. The parent resisted and resisted, all while this teacher was enduring harassment. She was treating this student like a human being, the student was treating the teacher like a target, and the parent was treating the teacher like nuisance. And she STILL. got this kid! into a program! within MONTHS. A free program that will increase the odds he isn't a danger to himself or others, keep him out of the school to prison pipeline, keep him farther from cops, get him to learn skills where he can advocate for himself. Obviously that is the better option than having a kid be amongst others he can influence and hurt! Fuck it still drives me up the wall to think about.