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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- My opinion of the Morakniv Garberg in Carbon Steel
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Ok, when you said that an outdoorsman should have multiple redundancies for starting a fire I immediately subbed to your channel.
Sage words. I wish more people would think ahead like that.
Uncommon common sense. Thanks for the sub! ...grinding at work, hoping to get some new vids up soon!
I've said that a bunch of times, just not on video because I don't make videos. Why haven't you subbed to my channel?
@@dirtysouthbushcraftandmma9770 Because your channel has no content.
hey, multiple redundancies includes one redundancy! sharp comment
best review ive seen yet on the Garberg.
I agree great review :)
Thanks guys!
The secondary bevel is there on purpose. The Garberg is designed to be used for batoning and other harder tasks. A zero scandi grind is a very delicate grind and would tend to dull very fast on such a blade. Therefore Mora applies a small secondary bevel to make the edge more resistant to damage. But it's not a hollow grind (as you assumed), it's a flat grind which may be slightly convexed. I don't know Mora's finishing process for the Garberg, but on most of their non-carving knives they finish the grind on a belt grinder which applies a micro convex bevel. I would assume they do the same to the Garberg.
The handle material is also no secret Mora magic. The handle is made of polyamide which they only use for the Garberg. The other Mora knives' handles are made of another polymer plastic. Polyamide is quite some tough plastic which is why it's also used in handguns like the Glock.
Batoning also is not much of an issue with scandi ground blades. A scandi grind blade with decent geometry acts as a wedge and pushes the wood to the sides before it touches the edge, at least when batoning with the grain of the wood. So the edge only has to withstand the first few inches. The thicker the blade, the better you can actually see the wedge effect. That's also the reason why thicker scandi ground blades are not well suited for food prep. They split the food more than actually cutting it which doesn't allow very precise cuts. Just try to slowly cut a hard apple in half with the Garberg and watch what happens. :-)
That bit at 11:24 where you mention the tang being used to strike flint rather than the blade sells it for me , I never thought of that it’s much safer.
Great video bud. I just spent 2 solid months researching a new knife to buy as im fairly new to the bushcraft community but been a outdoorsmen/hunter/camper in the Pennsylvania mts my whole life. It came down to the garberg or the condor swamp romper. Im a bit tight on cash and loved the sheath on the condor with the ferro rod holder and the leather. Walnut handle it just seemed more my style. I got it 4 days ago and absolutely love it. But as soon as i can im ordering the garberg next. Thanks for the videos brother. Got my sub . You should have a million imho.
Hey brother! Great honest review! I like reviews that are real like this as opposed to table top ones. I love mora knives. I have the stainless garberg, but end up using a carbon companion more than any other blade. My garberg came with a small secondary bevel. Thanks for sharing
Have a blessed one
Excellent review. The cost is very reasonable for what you get. I picked one up with just the polymer sheath for a little over $80. Absolutely worth it. I completely agree with you about using your knife to get a spark. I am at a loss to understand why some people require this. Sure, it's nice to know how. But you'd be every bit as prepared by bringing an extra ferro rod. And there's no penalty if you love a stainless knife. I love carbon steel, but I'm very fond of my Ontario Blackbird and stainless Mora Companion as well.
Hi I’ve just subscribed after watching your mora Garberg review. I’ve had mine now for about a week and it is really growing on me too. God bless you brother I’m Christ.
Great review. I ordered this knife yesterday and it sh6be delivered tomorrow. Watching your video just confirmed my purchase. Thanks
Good video, sir. I always wanted to get one exactly like yours. I got really lucky I got one from a pawn shop for 30$, and it's hardly been used. And yes, mine has a hollow grind at the tip part. I love mine. Thanks for the video and keep it going. 👌🏽👍🏽👊🏾💪🏾🙏🏽💯
second time watching this video, and it really is a good review mate. I was on the fence whether to buy the Garberg, but after watching this I may actually get it :D
Great stuff man keep it up!
Thank you. It's a sturdy tool and I'll have it as long as I don't lose it. Its one of those knives you can give to your grand kids
Hey man the Mora Garberg is made with grinding wheels that is why they have those grind lines so the blade takes the shape of the wheel. This happens on all their grinds.
I agree about having to make sparks. A couple of bic lighters and a ferro rod makes more sense.
Good honest review! 👍
I had the same complaints about what you are mentioning at 6:30 ! I solved the problem for me by first putting on the thing that holds the knife in place and then the belt loop underneath it and then I secured the whole thing by just wrapping para cord around the knife sheath so the belt loop would stay in place and wasn't able to slide down in the paracord. I've also included my fire steel and a little sharpening stone so I always have both on the knife. It's a quite well functioning set up you might want to try it if you really want to have both options on the knife at the same time. Great review you gave anyways that actually made me buy the knife thank you.
I did the same thing, just threw a ranger band underneath to hold both pieces in place. Problem, solved and Stull fits in the multi mount.
@@AgileWoodsman very good idea as well!! good call!
I do have the Morakniv Garberg and I agree with everything you say about this knife ; great review !
Hey man I really like your review Alot on this Mora carbon knife and you know your stuff! I have the stainless one but I am ready to shell out the bones for the carbon one and Thank you Alot for helping out with my decision!! I'm looking forward to seeing more of your video's!!
Nice review mate. My wishlist for the end of this month.
Hi Nick , new subscriber , enjoyed the down to earth review , own a carbon mora myself , as a replacement for my old and well loved knife .
Great well though out review. I agree on redundant fire starters. If you're in enough of a pinch where you need to resort to flint and char, you may be boned anyway but it's a nice backup. I prefer 3 bic lighters and a halfx6 inch ferro rod as a backup.
Mine (carbon too) has that slight hollow also. It is a very small hollow. My main annoyance is the secondary bevel. It is not very large, so I sharpened it out. As it gets more sharpenings, I will purposely make it slightly convex. They should offer a longer version, much like the Terava Jaakaripuukko comes in 110mm and 140mm.
I think Joshua Enyart, the Grey Bearded Green Beret, referred to the Garberg as “the knife for everybody”. I’m pleased to finally have one, though I opted for stainless steel.
I agree with a lot of what you just said. Personally for me I feel like everyone should carry Two knives and not just one. The Garberg makes for an awesome back-up blade, or just a smaller knife to handle more precise task. If I was in a SHTF situation and all I had on my belt was a Garberg, then I could do a lot worse that's for sure. It's a great knife and probably the best fire making knife I have ever used.
I have notice the same thing on my knife when I was sharpening it at first I was thinking it was the way I was sharpening it but now I see you notice the same thing so now I feel better knowing it's not just me
Love your answer if you need a spark off your knife you are in a lot of trouble hahaha
Nick, great review on a great knife. I have one. I bought an aftermarket leather sheath and love it. If you stay with the factory multi-mount you can slide your "snap" loop on first and then the belt loop. They fit well together. Well done sir
Great video review.
I have found that you can get a spark from stainless steel and a flint too.
I haven't had much experience with either, stainless or carbon, when it comes to sparking char-cloth. I usually have quite a few redundancies to avoid that situation. I should give it try though just for kicks.
I got one a few months back and it is also a bit concave in the same area as yours, my guess is that they’re all like that. It could be useful.
I have the same knife what I did is glue the strap and belt loop on it works great.
Great review, thinking more and more about buying one.
Moras are sharpened on large grinding wheels, especially their higher end knives like their small carvers all have a slightly hollow scandi grind .
Since the video, I've found that out as well. I've also been beating on a RAT5, video to come!
I have never owned a Mora Garberg knife before, but would not mind owning the full tang knife. I love the carbon steel blades for use in fire starting, but do have a stainless steel knife which will start a fire if needed and it is good for batoning with and also for food processing.
mora uses very large grinding wheels which give a very slight hollow grind and yes i was surprised when i heard too lol
Good and honest review. What many don't know that Mora has been making full tang knives for some 40+ years called the "Lapplander" series but these are more hunting purpose knives with wooden slabs handles.
About the price. I think they are overpriced. If they would just sell that multimount as an extra and the knife + sheath with the belt loop (like you carry it) for maybe 50 to 60 dollars I would consider it. Having a strong webbing belt loop would be even better in wet climates or when rafting etc.
Every knife is a one tool option if it comes down to it. Even my 10 dollar Hultafors GK or my 15 dollar 12 inch Tramontina latin machete (including sheath) but of course both knives need some extra skills to use them as one tool option. The purpose build one tool option knives are usually a bit bigger with a blade length of maybe 5 to 6 inch, thicker stock and full tang with slabs as handle scales so more capable of light chopping.
I still see the Garberg as mostly food prep (and for that I prefer stainless) and small tasks knife. You can pick up a Condor Terrasaur in 1095 carbon steel for half the price and better blade geometry for these small tasks. As one tool option maybe the CS SRK in SK5 or the Condor Rodan both for half the price.
For just under 100 dollars (on sale) I picked up a APO-1 in SK85 carbon steel designed by Survival Lilly and must say it's a good design for a 'one way option'. Longer, thicker stock, truly full tang with G10 handle scales and a way better sheath. There's stainless versions also. But even the EKA Nordic W12 is much stronger and will cost you less and has a great sheath also.
So if you compare the competition the Garberg really is overpriced.
Strongly disagree. I don't know why you think $65-$80 is overpriced for a high quality tool. Sure you can get the Condor terrasaur for maybe $40 but the Garberg is just better quality. Besides, that Condor looks like an imitation of Garberg and it probably is. Not saying Condor is not worth $40, it probably is but I question Condor's quality which has been inconsistent (heat treat/fit finish, etc....)
EKA Nordic W12 is not cheaper. It's more expensive at around $100 or more. Saying that the Garberg is "really" overpriced is a load of BS!
@@LXT43 Over here the EKA Nordic W12 is just under 80 euro so lets say some $95 where the Garberg is more expensive starting at around $107. The APO-1 by Survival Lilly was on sale for around $115. Prices of course can differ depending on where you buy it but these are the lowest prices I could find for each of them in my country. Both the Nordic and the APO-1 have G10 handle scales, thicker stock, true full tang and have way better sheaths. Pretty sure the Terrasaur is inspired by the Garberg as the Garberg is inspired by the Fallkniven F1. But Garberg and Terrasaur have a plastic handle and a plastic sheath but for a small camp knife the Terrasaur has a better blade geometry for finer work. Condor might have a bit more rough finish but I never had any quality issues with any of them. The Terrasaur is also at the right price for a plastic handle plastic simple sheath small camp knife. As I mentioned if I can pick up a Garberg for the equivalent of $60 I'd buy it. But that will be hard to find.
@@stevanoutdoor I think you need to mention where you're from if you're making reference to the cost of the products. Prices differ worldwide. Since you commented on a video of a guy who is in USA, I assumed that's where you're from also. I don't own nor have I ever handled the Condor Terrasaur or APO-1. I don't need G10 on my knives. Mora have been using quality plastic and rubber on their knives. Have you ever seen one fail ?? I didn't. I don't need G10 on a knife. As a matter of fact, I don't want it on any of my knives except folders. It's very hard, dense, heavy material. I also don't care for Survival Lily so why would I want one of her designs? She is an youtuber for what? few years. I think I will give my money to a real knife maker. I will also give my money to a maker that I trust and have earned my respect by making excellent knives. I guess you know who i'm talking about. They make the Garberg. have a nice day!
@@LXT43 Now I wonder how long have you known Moraknives? How old is your first Mora? 45+ years like mine?
Ok. You don't like G10 and have no clue who Survival Lilly is. That's all fine. You're probably American to right? Did I see Mora's fail. YES, Absolutely. Did I see a Garberg fail, NO. But neither did I see a $10 Hultafors GK fail ever. Not even if they tried to break it. Survival Lilly is a youtuber indeed but seen videos of her surviving in Canada, the US, Africa and all over Europe. Where have you been?
When did your admiration for Mora start? When Dave Canterbury started to promote them?
When the Garberg first came out , I bought a Cold Steel Master Hunter in CPM-3V for that same $100 and Never looked back . But Amazon has them Now for $55 for the Stainless one and $60 for the Carbon Steel one , so I bought them Both ....😁🤭🤣
If this is expensive, then what about TRC? Mille Cuori is 400$ Do they worth it? Isn't TRC and Falkniven a lot overpriced? LT Wright and Bark Rivers also cost around 300 where I live. Most knives are way overpriced and most of the time, praising them, doesn't make the price lower..
I think the issue with the tip being hollow ground is inherit on scandi grinds as my Tops BOB did the same thing. The BOB comes with a secondary micro bevel (they call it modified scandi). Technically it is a saber grind. Anyway, I think it was meant to be a scandi, but something happens at the belly/tip that makes the same problem when sharpening.
yes all my mora knives have been the same as yours when sharpening the scandi grind . almost thought I was doing something wrong.
There are people on UA-cam that have superglued the belt loop and the safety latch together, so you can do that if you want to.
Good , honest review , new sub from England here . Thanks for the honesty
I have the stainless version. I like it very much.
I just don't get why people think flint and steel is so important. I don't think it's important at all.
It would have to be a super last resort in a real life situation. Some people like it more for the nostalgia, or see it as an accomplishment, which is cool too. I dont practice or use it personally.
@@OutdoorLifewithNickLaws The problem i have with viewing it as a last resort method is that it requires charred material or tinder fungus.
If I can carry charred material as a last resort fire starting method I can carry a lighter or a ferro rod as a last resort method.
I think its a useful method to understand in case of long term grid down scenarios where manufactured goods might be scarce. However, i don't see its merit in terms of survival scenarios in the modern world.
@@joeallen2354 what if your lighter breaks or you leave it behind after you have used it?
Joe Allen 2354. Couldnt agree more. Flint and steal and bowdrill is prehistoric technology and nothing more than ego.
I carry 3 lighters, 3 ferrocerium rods, Uco Storm matches and a magnifying lens plus cotton wool,vaseline and Fatwood matches and Birch bark. All of that weighs not more than a lump of steel and a lump of flint. For Gods sake this is the 21st century not 10,000 yrs BC!!!
@@wwjd8833, when did you ever break one BIC Lighter? Never mind Two???
Great review Nick!! 👍😀
I have my stainless for over three years and already beat the crap out of it and it takes the beating without any problem.
I simply love the knife for both fine and super tough jobs.
Awesome, I usually go with stainless, and probably would have, the outfitter shop I bought this one from only carried the high carbon. I'm enjoying it and haven't had and corrosion issues. Thanks for the view!
Not a defect on the grind. I have many garbergs and they are all alike.
The exposed tang lets you use a fero rod one handed. If you break a hand, striking a fero rod would be out of the question unless you can do it one handed. General scraping is easier with the exposed tang. Why don't all fixed blades have this feature?
did u keep the secondary bevel or just go full scandi when sharping it ?
Good review Nick!...interesting the forward portion of the blade is hollow ground.
of course, every time you use your knife your exposed to the blades cutting edge, whether your whittling, cutting, chopping, stropping, or just admiring it....so imho an exposed tang for striking a ferro rod is a bit of a red herring, a more practical use being for chipping ice and cracking nuts...nooo not those nuts...LOL...atb...woods
When using a ferro rod I prefer to pull the rod in a lawnmower motion instead of pushing my knife forward which can prevent cuts or thrusting into my tinder bundle.
_Thank you!_
(Learning by review, & this is a great one)
*God bless.*
Hmm you said the handle isn’t quite hard and it’s not quite rubbery… mine just feels like hard plastic all the way around. I actually really wish it was part rubberized like on their cheaper model knives
Great review buddy really informative
Mine has that slight hallow grind exactly in same part.
I had a carbon Garberg. Nice knife but for the fine tasks Moras are made for I'm more likely to just grab my Swiss Army, multitool, or pocket knife. Personally I prefer a larger more survival oriented knife like the Cold Steel SRK or Fallkniven S1
Then you haven’t done much bushcraft.
Very nice knife...always wonder why it is ‘too pricy’ because it is a Mora...as you said if it was another brand the Garberg would be considered very inexpensive for the quality....I am not a hardcore woodcrafter but I appreciate good knives... I purchased the high carbon initially as I tend to like that type of steel better...then I bought the stainless version also... I have used a Helle with the sandvik 14c28n steel a lot and it has unzippered many a deer thorax...the Garberg is a great knife imo...and a bargain at $75!…
Mine sharpened the same way. Not sure if it's my whetstone technique or the knife.
Ty now i feel like i will get one. Hey what fire started where you using.
Yes I noticed this with both of mine they are very odd grinds which I personally don't like...The knife is to thick on the belly sweep I tapered mine using the warksharp free hand. I think I like the Bushcraft Black better, it has a very nice blade shape but I've gotten away from using scandi grinds anymore. I prefer to use a full flat or high saber more, my main knife is the Gerber Prodigy and I use the Ontario SK5 which honestly almost has the exact same edge shape as the Gerber.
I agree my first Garberg was only $55 the original release Christmas sale...The $80 is not expensive its a great knife BUT with companies like Condor making knock offs with 1095 its losing its appeal even though the Garberg is a better knife people don't care.
I also run the prodigy, and I have a video on that knife also. It's my daily carry 90% of the time.
@@OutdoorLifewithNickLaws I love that knife...It's funny cause I've had a crap ton of knives but ended up selling them all and now only own the Prodigy, Ontario sk5, Garberg and Gerber LMF2 which was a gift from a friend. The lmf2 is very heavy but man it makes a great camp knife if used with common sense it also makes a great fire craft knife. Blue Mountain Bushcraft and outdoors has some good vids on the Gerber's same with MagnusAnderson he got me into the whole Prodigy . I always reach for the Gerber.
I've been planning on picking one up myself. I have a Mora Black, and I've beaten the snot out of it, and it's still going strong. I don't know that I need the full tang over the partial tang of the black, since it's never given me a problem, but it does give a little peace of mind. I laugh at those who complain at the price..before it came out, many complained they were all partial tangs, now they come out with a full tang one, and it's to expensive, lol. I know Dave Canterbury swears by it, and carries it rather than one of his own line of knives. That says a lot, not so much because it's Dave Canterbury, but because he recommends the Garberg over one of his own knives that he sells. You would think he would want to push his own line rather than recommend one made by somebody else. I know he sells them as well, but the profit margin can't be as wide as his own knives, and for ego reasons alone, you would think he'd push his own designs first.
I really like your channel..I like that you use a knife for awhile before reviewing it. Many reviewers will make a feather stick, baton a few sticks, and then declare it a good knife, but fail to answer one major concern..how does it hold up to use over time, and over many different situations. Good job!! Just found your channel, but after only a few vids, I can say I look forward to not only any future vids, but going through all your past ones too!
P.S. sorry for the long rant, lol. I'm just really impressed by your channel.
Thanks! I appreciate the views and the comment. Fall is here and the videos will be coming in on a regular again
i second this comment, i was on Dave channel too, and God bless to everyone here.
It would make a great backup to my okc rat 7 of wich is my go to knife.
What song is used in the intro?
Never owned a mora before. Despite all the hype the regular ones just look like fillet knives to me. If I was going to get one that would probably be that one seems more solid.
It's a nice knife, I like the other ones as well. They all have there place, but not as one tool options. Their more fine task tools.
I've had them all. It's my edc. Prices are great. No problems with partial tangs at all. I'm a timberframeing contractor and bushcraft nut before it was a thing. Just got the garberg. Found one finally on ebay. Saved a few bucks. That was the onlything holding me back from buying one was the price. I'd say but a cheap one and try it out. I know they look like your granmas paring knife , but they're a great little knife. Oh yeah the garberg is awesome too.
I have a Garberg black and I use it for personal protection. No one wants to be on the other end of this strong razor blade.
Thank you
Good stuff man, thanks! On my list. 👍
Great review. Subscribed 👍🏻
After using the plastic sheath - if you had to make the purchase again would you order with the plastic sheath or the leather sheath offering? Thank you! Great video!
I'd get the leather, the plastic one is still holding up fine, but it's more of a dangler, which some prefer, but I like a static sheath. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for checking out the video!
And I also have yet to use half of the multi mount system..
Outdoor Life with Nick Laws Makes perfect sense. Im getting my first bushcraft knife for this weekend’s camping trip. After much research I was going to get the Bark River Aurora but I’ve miscalculated my finances (forgot I have to buy other stuff for camping besides a beautiful knife) So I’ve decided to hold off and go with the Garberg carbon. My last debate point was the sheath as there are 3 options. Thank you for the wisdom!!
The multimont sheath is also sold separately. So you could buy the knife with the leather sheath and get an extra multimont to attach it to your backpack.
@@berniem.6965 Ended up doing exactly that. Very pleased with the Mora
Personally i would do wood drill fires before a flint spark fire.
No hollow grind here !!
I must say i dont like the sheath system of the garberg, personally id prefer one of the companion style sheaths with the belt clip on it. I dont think the belt loop is sturdy enough to stand up and last for very long imho. Im sure the knife itself cant be beat
I prefer the clip also.
Garberg is a great tough do all knife but too thick to ever be as sharp as a mora #1. But obviously is more tobust with more features
7:28 you’re welcome
whats your other knife?
It looks like you had a problem with the big belly of the knife staying flat on the stone...not trying to talk heifer dust...just saying that the last 1/4 inch of blade looks like it did not touch the stone at all...I’m saying this bc I had the same issue...but luckily for me I got four of them...one for each family member...and had to get the tiny micro bevel off of all of them...so by the end of the four...had it down pretty well..great video...love the knife...have you heard of Dulo knives...he works with k390 vanadis4E vanadis10....crazy steels and will make any style knife with sheath and liners for $200-$250 depending on size and steel
4:01 almost got ya
Buy an aftermarket sheath from drink and hide leather. Excellent sheath hand made. Bout 15 bucks.
I was looking at those.
Completely satisfied with mine and the company.
@@nickp.2432 sold me, the knife is worth a better sheath
Rule number 1 no guard no good
You got that wrong buddy...
It goes: no guard it's so good...
Seriously you dont need one in scandi knives it only gets in the way with so many carving grips..
This or the kabar becker bk2?
I don't have personal experience with that knife. With that said, I know it's a more heavy duty knife. Depends what you want out of the tool.
Depends on what you want to do. For pure bushcraft go with the Garberg. If you want a heavy duty brute of a knife that is a jack of all trades, master of none for camping, hunting, survival, etc the BK-2 is a great option. That being said might I also recommend looking into the Cold Steel SRK, Fallkniven S1, Gerber Strongarm, and Cold Steel Master Hunter?
I have both. I love both. But just something about the mora makes me pick it more often. I usually have a hard time deciding which to take with me.
@@floppinfish thanks
You literally said all the same things dave canterbury said. Lol