I know it’s been said a million times over, but I’m on team “cabinet under the stairs”. Either leave the door to the hall and have it be a hall closet, or wall off that door and make it a bathroom cupboard.
I think that the writing on the wall reads C Harris Plumber Child Okeford October 1946. A quick google search came up with Pte Ronald C Harris, Shaftesbury Rd, Plumber DOB 16/02/04. Looks like he was a member of the Child Okeford Home Guard during WW2. A bit more of a search came up with a Ronald Charles Harris aged 7 on the 1911 Census. He was living at 59 The Cross Child Okeford ; his father and older brother were plumbers. I think that this could be your workman? Good luck with your renovations.
as i mentioned last week, i would definitely make a built in cupboard under the stairs in the upstairs bathroom and seal that modern doorway up within the cupboard. the other (original) entrance to the upstairs bathroom is far more in keeping with the rest of the house. good to see your progress
I also commented that building a linen closet under the stairs would be a good idea. It could even be split for storing supplies under the portion with the least headroom.
@@markdyballuk From the obvious age of the timbers removed between the two bathrooms, its hard to see how the attic staircase is properly supported, now. The last few steps twist to a 90 degree angle with nothing beneath the turning point.
Great to see the twinkle in Charlie's eyes at each bit of progress. Makes me smile. Also a word of encouragement to Emma as she tackles her doctoral work. It's grueling, but there's an end that is so satisfying. All the best to both of you!
Box in under the stairs for a stacked washer and dryer. There will be lots of laundry from all those bedrooms which wouldn’t have to be carried up and downstairs.
It says Pete Wright was here as well. I think that taking the waste pipes off the front of the house is a much better idea, the amount lost boxing in downstairs is going to be minimal. Great progress again, it seems to be speeding up now.👌❤️
Agreed, Pete Wright was there as well. The stairs were fixed by the Right Hon GC, assisted by S.G. or possibly L.G.Harvey, but spelt without the e, followed by what appears to be a rude comment but could be 'lugger' which may be an old term for labourer or similar. If GC was indeed the Right Hon, it may be possible to trace him in Trades Directories of the time, and with the very best of following winds, to identify who his assistant was. The signatures are captured on video but I suggest you also take photographs, sign your work, get your builders to sign, take photos and record the whole lot in a record of your renovation which you can create retrospectively from your enormously interesting video diary. Keep up the good work, keep up the Vlog. Thank you RG.
Hello from Texas. Great job on the upper floor bath! I like the idea of using the largest doorway as the entrance. If you plan on having one entrance to the bath, I would set it up so that passerby individuals could not see the toilet. I personally would use the smaller space for the toilet area. The stairway space could be made into a linen closet/bath storage. To me, that would be much more aestheticly pleasing. Which ever you choose, that space will make a beautiful bath! I'm excited to see what the future plans will be. ❤
Very fun to watch all the progress!!! When you're tearing down things that make tons of dust, it would be a good idea to pin a plastic or cloth sheet over the doorway so the dust stays in the room you are working in. Looking forward to more!
One suggestion - while everything is open, check the copper piping. Here in the states, because of chlorinated water, we were told that copper has about a 50 year lifespan. When it starts to fail, the pipe will develop pinhole leaks and then causes mold in the surrounding materials. You never know until it's too late. If the pipe is from the east then the life is less, because of the alloys used. Keep up the amazing work.
Lovely progress! I agree with others that a cupboard could be put under the stairs - 1) there is never enough storage space; 2) it does look like the stairs could use some support. I expected a cantilever, but didn't see one. PS - I always get a chuckle out of the typical UK drainpipes running down the outside of walls. Where I live, one cannot use that (ugly) shortcut, because the pipes would freeze.
I would use the larger door as the entry to the room, and build a storage unit under the stairs to hold everything and conceal the underside of the stairs.
The removed wall is very likely original if not a very early alteration. You can tell from the lath and plaster, how the window is divided, and the architrave around both the window and the doors. Both doors would have been there originally. I’ve no idea but I suspect it was something like split toilet/wash room or both toilets and downstairs a wash room. I’m sure someone familiar with building history from when it was built would know. I’d think making a small cupboard under the stairs and utilising the original door would be a good idea
Yes, and if I remember correctly the same trick of putting a dividing wall between the lights was used in the attic. Maybe it came about when architect and client were originally discussing plans and internal layout. Also the external shot shows the room below has the thick vertical divider feature as this upstairs bathroom. Need to find shots of the room below to confirm layout.
Have you considered getting rid of the separate glass doors and adding a conservatory the full length of the house. I think that would look amazing and allow for great flow throughout the ground floor of the house.
That is going to be one gorgeous bathroom. Seems to me the space under the stairs is ideal for the shower. That would also solve your choice which doorway to use.
The door with the lower head room would make a great space for a storage/linen closet. The bigger door would make a wonderful entrance to the bathroom !
Fantastic progress. The bathroom is a decent size. Re which door to keep - if you close off the original doorway could you use the door and surround in the other doorway - looks as though you may need to widen that doorway.
Amazing written treasures! We just finished remodeling the new to us home, and have to say whatever time you are thinking multiply it by 3😮😂keep sharing your progress
Thanks, Charlie! Wow! What a difference in that bathroom upstairs. Your hard work is paying off to be sure. Soon, you and Emma will be "back at it" - this time with an advanced degree! All best wishes!
I'm totally on Team "Closet under the Stairs". That door is too small for it to be your access into what will be a large bathroom. You can leave the door for hallway access or close off that door and make it strictly a bathroom closet only accessible from inside the bathroom. But I also had another thought. I don't know what your plumbing plan is except that you want it to run through the floor. You could also make that a water closet. Instead of the toilet be "in the room", have the toilet in its own room and the space under the stairs is a perfect spot for it. The large shower could also be on that wall with a large double sink vanity on the opposite wall and if either of you like taking baths instead of just showers, the tub could be situated in front of the windows. Clawfoot tub would be my personal choice...just saying, lol. Because the room is so large, you could still incorporate a linen closet or open shelving in there.
And under that Plumber Harris' name, it says Pete Wright was here. Such neat finds and either cut around the plaster to save or toss if you are tearing out that wall. Same for the piece under the stairs. A linen closet for that bathroom would be wonderful storage for towels and bath products, even a broom/vacuum.
If you don't mind the suggestion, I would really consider a linen closet under the stairs. You could then keep both doors and the closet would be accessible from the hallway. The space under the stairs is really not very nice as you don't have much height and the room is large enough that you would still be left with a lovely bathroom.
Under stairs looks like perfect storage for hall (door already there) AND bathroom, + good support for staircase. Please, please wear eye protection, I know it's a pain but "bionic eyes" aren't available so... 👍👍
I think I would build a closet under the stairs, and simply reuse the existing doorway for it, turning the door to open into the hall. You could have it half the depth of the stairway, with a hall closet on the side where the door is currently, and shelving under the stairs on the "back" of the shallow closet. It gives you plenty of storage both as a linen closet and for the bath, and uses the empty space under the stairs in a way that keeps people from hitting their heads on the stairs. I think removing the external pipes is a wise move, and will make the front of the place look ever so much better.
Being as your knocking down and re- plastering so much in the bathroom why don’t you very carefully remove the old original door and door frame and reinstate it in the middle of the wall that way you get more space both sides and that equals out the room! Obviously you will need stud up where the old doors are currently 👍😊
Just a suggestion: Take a piece of that wallpaper from the bathroom and try to find something as close to the original as possible to redecorate it. Or, cut a nice square of the wallpaper, frame it in a shadowbox, use the color palette from it, and hang it in the bathroom...keeping with its history in a way.
Would the V and A museum be interested in documenting that old wallpaper I wonder? I expect that they have an archive bank of them. It may be an unknown one and possibly very old. It might be worth emailing a photo of it to them.
Beware about hiding/boxing in the waste pipes. They can be noisy. Both from waste following and you can get a clicking noise from the expansion. It also can make any (unlikely) issues with the pipe a maintenance nightmare
At 10:24 you was saying what door to use. Would you consider building the wall and blocking the under the stairs off and use it for storage. You can access that from outside the room using the door. We can't have to much storage.
It is rare to see pipes on the outside of a house where I live and I don't know how uou keep them from freezing when they are outside like that besides not being very attractive. Your main bathroom has a lot of possibilities now that it is fullsize again. It will be interesting to see what you do with it. I would try to keep the window unobstructed or put a free standing tub under it to maximize natural light and stick the toilet or shower under the stairs.
Perhaps locate the bathroom toilet in the space below the stairs? That way, you'll mostly be sitting in that spot anyway, and won't need much headroom. It would be a terrible shame to lose that gorgeous, large, original door! Just get rid of the doorway under the stairs, make it a solid wall, and it would be the most private corner of the room, for the toilet.
Ummm, that one writing looks like Pete Wright was here as well. How interesting! The other looks like June or August 6th, 1901 saying These stairs were fixed by Right Hon Geroge Coombes assisted by ?? Harvy bugger ❤
I'm sure I'm in the minority in liking the two smaller windows rather than one big sash window for both bathrooms. The smaller ones will be easier to open.
A Hammer isn't the correct tool???? in my opinion it's always the first and last tool... For your bathroom, i would close that door under the staircase, even the room is big, the feeling entering the room underneath it will ruin any grandeur... i would try to build either a cabinet there or would use it as place for a big shower (and show somehow where the door was... maybe with tiling or some recess in the wall...
i wonder if the stairs in the bathroom are original? seems odd the wall paper on that bit a plaster (8.21) is the same wall paper on the wall under the stairs(9.39), if there are not original then that would mean the windows are ordinality spilt and it was two rooms original and the stub wall is original too
Why don't you transfer the larger door and frame to the left so you would have both benefits, the larger door and at the place that is most convenient for you?
May I offer that tha the space under the smaller door could be framed in an used as a linen closet. Storage in bathrooms is a premium space and then the reduced headroom would not be an issue.
Hi great work! Just so you know, some people might get a bit offended by your use of "master! infront of room names, since the term in the US is connected to slavery. Just thought you should know ;)
I know it’s been said a million times over, but I’m on team “cabinet under the stairs”. Either leave the door to the hall and have it be a hall closet, or wall off that door and make it a bathroom cupboard.
It would make a great linen closet!
Great strides forward! ❤ XXX
Yep... That's what I'd do.
'Cupboard Under the Stairs'? Going 'Harry Potter'? 🪄
I think that the writing on the wall reads C Harris Plumber Child Okeford October 1946. A quick google search came up with Pte Ronald C Harris, Shaftesbury Rd, Plumber DOB 16/02/04. Looks like he was a member of the Child Okeford Home Guard during WW2.
A bit more of a search came up with a Ronald Charles Harris aged 7 on the 1911 Census. He was living at 59 The Cross Child Okeford ; his father and older brother were plumbers.
I think that this could be your workman?
Good luck with your renovations.
You should build a cupboard under the stairs. It will help support the stairs and give you space for towels and such.
as i mentioned last week, i would definitely make a built in cupboard under the stairs in the upstairs bathroom and seal that modern doorway up within the cupboard. the other (original) entrance to the upstairs bathroom is far more in keeping with the rest of the house. good to see your progress
I also commented that building a linen closet under the stairs would be a good idea. It could even be split for storing supplies under the portion with the least headroom.
@@charlesyoung7436 seems a no brainer to me charles! great minds think alike huh? 😂
@@markdyballuk From the obvious age of the timbers removed between the two bathrooms, its hard to see how the attic staircase is properly supported, now. The last few steps twist to a 90 degree angle with nothing beneath the turning point.
Great to see the twinkle in Charlie's eyes at each bit of progress. Makes me smile. Also a word of encouragement to Emma as she tackles her doctoral work. It's grueling, but there's an end that is so satisfying. All the best to both of you!
I am always amazed at the quality of floor boards originally used in these rectories. Looking up to the ceiling shows this.
Box in under the stairs for a stacked washer and dryer. There will be lots of laundry from all those bedrooms which wouldn’t have to be carried up and downstairs.
Great progress and really love all the old messages you are finding.
It says Pete Wright was here as well. I think that taking the waste pipes off the front of the house is a much better idea, the amount lost boxing in downstairs is going to be minimal. Great progress again, it seems to be speeding up now.👌❤️
I suggest, use the big door and close of shorter door, then build a closet under the stairs , covering the door. You can never have too much storage
Love the hidden messages in of houses
Says ‘Pete Wright was here as well’ 👍🏻
Love seeing the signatures! You two should be signing too, as you're part of the building's history now.
I think it says Pete Wright was here as well. And the stairs was assisted by S.G. Harvey.
I enjoy your videos. Greetings from Denmark.
Agreed, Pete Wright was there as well. The stairs were fixed by the Right Hon GC, assisted by S.G. or possibly L.G.Harvey, but spelt without the e, followed by what appears to be a rude comment but could be 'lugger' which may be an old term for labourer or similar. If GC was indeed the Right Hon, it may be possible to trace him in Trades Directories of the time, and with the very best of following winds, to identify who his assistant was. The signatures are captured on video but I suggest you also take photographs, sign your work, get your builders to sign, take photos and record the whole lot in a record of your renovation which you can create retrospectively from your enormously interesting video diary. Keep up the good work, keep up the Vlog. Thank you RG.
Hello from Texas. Great job on the upper floor bath! I like the idea of using the largest doorway as the entrance. If you plan on having one entrance to the bath, I would set it up so that passerby individuals could not see the toilet. I personally would use the smaller space for the toilet area. The stairway space could be made into a linen closet/bath storage. To me, that would be much more aestheticly pleasing. Which ever you choose, that space will make a beautiful bath! I'm excited to see what the future plans will be. ❤
Love seeing your progress and the hidden messages. I hope you can preserve them and it would be fun to add your own.
Very fun to watch all the progress!!! When you're tearing down things that make tons of dust, it would be a good idea to pin a plastic or cloth sheet over the doorway so the dust stays in the room you are working in. Looking forward to more!
And one over the floor perhaps, so the dust doesn't go through the floor boards and is more easily gathered up
I'm with the cabinet under the stairs. A perfect spot.
Great to catch up on your progress in that bathroom. I remember what this looked like way before you started on works. 😊
Have you thought of installing a small loft hatch in the bathroom to give easier access to the storage cupboard above ?
One suggestion - while everything is open, check the copper piping.
Here in the states, because of chlorinated water, we were told that copper has about a 50 year lifespan. When it starts to fail, the pipe will develop pinhole leaks and then causes mold in the surrounding materials. You never know until it's too late. If the pipe is from the east then the life is less, because of the alloys used.
Keep up the amazing work.
You've still got lead pipes over there haven't you?
Lovely progress! I agree with others that a cupboard could be put under the stairs - 1) there is never enough storage space; 2) it does look like the stairs could use some support. I expected a cantilever, but didn't see one. PS - I always get a chuckle out of the typical UK drainpipes running down the outside of walls. Where I live, one cannot use that (ugly) shortcut, because the pipes would freeze.
I would use the larger door as the entry to the room, and build a storage unit under the stairs to hold everything and conceal the underside of the stairs.
Потолок ломать удобно в мотошлеме, в глаза и нос не сыпется и голова под защитой. Я так использую.
Having gutted out and renovated an old farmhouse, this brings back a lot of memories. Good luck!
The removed wall is very likely original if not a very early alteration. You can tell from the lath and plaster, how the window is divided, and the architrave around both the window and the doors. Both doors would have been there originally. I’ve no idea but I suspect it was something like split toilet/wash room or both toilets and downstairs a wash room. I’m sure someone familiar with building history from when it was built would know. I’d think making a small cupboard under the stairs and utilising the original door would be a good idea
Yes, and if I remember correctly the same trick of putting a dividing wall between the lights was used in the attic. Maybe it came about when architect and client were originally discussing plans and internal layout.
Also the external shot shows the room below has the thick vertical divider feature as this upstairs bathroom. Need to find shots of the room below to confirm layout.
I love watching your progress. I suspect this renovation will take many years. You’ve taken on a big responsibility.
Use full door on right. Build linen cabinet under stairs.
Have you considered getting rid of the separate glass doors and adding a conservatory the full length of the house. I think that would look amazing and allow for great flow throughout the ground floor of the house.
Really interesting to see the wall paper below the stairs
That is going to be one gorgeous bathroom.
Seems to me the space under the stairs is ideal for the shower. That would also solve your choice which doorway to use.
How very satisfying to see all that mucky plaster coming down! Nothing like a fresh start.
It is ALWAYS worth checking every decision, drawing and detail from the architect. Mantra…check, check check!😀 Jinxy
The door with the lower head room would make a great space for a storage/linen closet. The bigger door would make a wonderful entrance to the bathroom !
Fantastic progress. The bathroom is a decent size. Re which door to keep - if you close off the original doorway could you use the door and surround in the other doorway - looks as though you may need to widen that doorway.
Project coming along nicely 😊
Amazing written treasures! We just finished remodeling the new to us home, and have to say whatever time you are thinking multiply it by 3😮😂keep sharing your progress
Thanks, Charlie! Wow! What a difference in that bathroom upstairs. Your hard work is paying off to be sure. Soon, you and Emma will be "back at it" - this time with an advanced degree! All best wishes!
It's coming right along! Really enjoy your videos! From Ohio.
I agree with getting the piping off the house facade…but remember to record exactly where all the new piping is😀
I'm totally on Team "Closet under the Stairs". That door is too small for it to be your access into what will be a large bathroom. You can leave the door for hallway access or close off that door and make it strictly a bathroom closet only accessible from inside the bathroom.
But I also had another thought. I don't know what your plumbing plan is except that you want it to run through the floor. You could also make that a water closet. Instead of the toilet be "in the room", have the toilet in its own room and the space under the stairs is a perfect spot for it. The large shower could also be on that wall with a large double sink vanity on the opposite wall and if either of you like taking baths instead of just showers, the tub could be situated in front of the windows. Clawfoot tub would be my personal choice...just saying, lol.
Because the room is so large, you could still incorporate a linen closet or open shelving in there.
And under that Plumber Harris' name, it says Pete Wright was here. Such neat finds and either cut around the plaster to save or toss if you are tearing out that wall. Same for the piece under the stairs. A linen closet for that bathroom would be wonderful storage for towels and bath products, even a broom/vacuum.
Absolutely horrendous how much dirt and dust of ages above the ceilings... must feel great to get rid of that!!
Use the big door, you may get a bath in along there were the small door is? or use the large door but move the doorway to were you want it?
Safety glasses during demo...always!!
If you don't mind the suggestion, I would really consider a linen closet under the stairs. You could then keep both doors and the closet would be accessible from the hallway. The space under the stairs is really not very nice as you don't have much height and the room is large enough that you would still be left with a lovely bathroom.
Great that you managed to use that wood for the new ceiling 👍. I'm liking the beard 😀✌️
Looks much better 😊
A horrible messy job, poor David. Lovely to have a clear-ish view of what you're dealing with 😊
Under stairs looks like perfect storage for hall (door already there) AND bathroom, + good support for staircase. Please, please wear eye protection, I know it's a pain but "bionic eyes" aren't available so... 👍👍
Personally I'd use the door that *isn't* under the stairs, and close off the one that is.
Is that staircase original? Surely not as there is wallpaper behind it and it cuts across the door frame. Any thoughts?
I think I would build a closet under the stairs, and simply reuse the existing doorway for it, turning the door to open into the hall. You could have it half the depth of the stairway, with a hall closet on the side where the door is currently, and shelving under the stairs on the "back" of the shallow closet.
It gives you plenty of storage both as a linen closet and for the bath, and uses the empty space under the stairs in a way that keeps people from hitting their heads on the stairs.
I think removing the external pipes is a wise move, and will make the front of the place look ever so much better.
"Pete Wright was here as well" the first one says. The second one reads "J G Harvey" Bugger.
P J Harry Briggs possibly?
May have had a dog with him ? "Hairy Bugger" ?
And use the big door, not the horrible little one - build storage cupboards for towels
Maybe you could use the space under the stairs as the water closet [small room that houses the toilet]
Being as your knocking down and re- plastering so much in the bathroom why don’t you very carefully remove the old original door and door frame and reinstate it in the middle of the wall that way you get more space both sides and that equals out the room! Obviously you will need stud up where the old doors are currently 👍😊
Just a suggestion: Take a piece of that wallpaper from the bathroom and try to find something as close to the original as possible to redecorate it. Or, cut a nice square of the wallpaper, frame it in a shadowbox, use the color palette from it, and hang it in the bathroom...keeping with its history in a way.
Would the V and A museum be interested in documenting that old wallpaper I wonder? I expect that they have an archive bank of them. It may be an unknown one and possibly very old. It might be worth emailing a photo of it to them.
Take photos of the writings you are finding, they will be fun to frame with words to say which room they were found.
It's a good idea to move the soil pipe inside for aesthetic reasons. What will you do about the venting element?
Beware about hiding/boxing in the waste pipes. They can be noisy. Both from waste following and you can get a clicking noise from the expansion. It also can make any (unlikely) issues with the pipe a maintenance nightmare
I would investigate moving the bigger door and frame into the position of the smaller door.
Taking all that old plaster out will certainly remove all the old smelly past.
Yes due to the wallpaper on the wall inside the stair box area it definitely looks like the room and window was divided later.
I would definitely use the larger door,it would be a shame to lose it.
At 10:24 you was saying what door to use. Would you consider building the wall and blocking the under the stairs off and use it for storage. You can access that from outside the room using the door. We can't have to much storage.
It is rare to see pipes on the outside of a house where I live and I don't know how uou keep them from freezing when they are outside like that besides not being very attractive. Your main bathroom has a lot of possibilities now that it is fullsize again. It will be interesting to see what you do with it. I would try to keep the window unobstructed or put a free standing tub under it to maximize natural light and stick the toilet or shower under the stairs.
Perhaps locate the bathroom toilet in the space below the stairs? That way, you'll mostly be sitting in that spot anyway, and won't need much headroom. It would be a terrible shame to lose that gorgeous, large, original door! Just get rid of the doorway under the stairs, make it a solid wall, and it would be the most private corner of the room, for the toilet.
Charlie, you rock the scruffy look. It's great to see the history of the house in those messages.
I would use the area under the stairs as a toilet with its own entrance.
I think it’s says “Hairy Bugger” on the stair joists 😂
Use the under stair space as a linen closet?
Ummm, that one writing looks like Pete Wright was here as well. How interesting! The other looks like June or August 6th, 1901 saying These stairs were fixed by Right Hon Geroge Coombes assisted by ?? Harvy bugger ❤
I'm sure I'm in the minority in liking the two smaller windows rather than one big sash window for both bathrooms. The smaller ones will be easier to open.
I’d block up the smaller door in the bathroom, and use the space under the stairs to run pipe work, to put the shower in that area.
A Hammer isn't the correct tool???? in my opinion it's always the first and last tool... For your bathroom, i would close that door under the staircase, even the room is big, the feeling entering the room underneath it will ruin any grandeur... i would try to build either a cabinet there or would use it as place for a big shower (and show somehow where the door was... maybe with tiling or some recess in the wall...
Peter Wright was here as well. Upper bathroom.
i wonder if the stairs in the bathroom are original? seems odd the wall paper on that bit a plaster (8.21) is the same wall paper on the wall under the stairs(9.39), if there are not original then that would mean the windows are ordinality spilt and it was two rooms original and the stub wall is original too
Why don't you transfer the larger door and frame to the left so you would have both benefits, the larger door and at the place that is most convenient for you?
It's breaks my heart to see all that original lath and plaster go. Though I understand why it's probably necessary.
May I offer that tha the space under the smaller door could be framed in an used as a linen closet. Storage in bathrooms is a premium space and then the reduced headroom would not be an issue.
Keep the big door in the bathroom. it looks much better than the small on.
Close up the two walls under the stair keep the hall door and then you have a nice walk in closet
I think the wall dividing the window was possibly original - given that it was lath and plaster, and not later plaster board.
Pete Wright was here as well
So the stairs were mended in 1907 - mended rather than built?
I would get rid of the small door and put a fun bathtub there.
PETE WRIGHT WAS HERE TO written on the plaster
Looks like Pete Wright
The writing under the stairs looks like 1961 to me
Pete Wright
Could you not make a bathroom storage cupboard underneath the stairs? Eliminate the unnecessary doorway
To me it looks like 1967. The stair could have been a later addition, as there was wallpaper on the inside of the boards that surrounded it.
Definitely take those waste pipes away. Could never do that in Canada, they would freeze.
I would have that panelling out
It says Pete Wright written on wall
7:48 : Please *DO* wear safety glasses?! At all times?!
This little incident could have cost you an eye.
The second name in the bathroom looks like "Pete Wright." That name under the stair looks like "Harvy Bugger". Could that be someone's idea of a joke?
Hi great work! Just so you know, some people might get a bit offended by your use of "master! infront of room names, since the term in the US is connected to slavery. Just thought you should know ;)
Not sure as looking again no G in Wright