just a small note, i really like seeing the end screen where all the roles are listed. sometimes, the graveyard doesn't show the correct roles because of framer, dusa, and jani
Tbh the second game is kinda indicative on how leavers and afk people can mess up games, with hypnotist leaving a possible 4 mafia game, 11 being afk sitting on a wealth of information, and 5 rage quitting a game they could have won if they just roleblocked pipe one more time. Also surprised you didn't suspect 2 being something else considering how long they took to say a target
On my first pestilence game I had a little bit ago, I had got to late game, and was outed as having defense. I was upped, however the rolelist was like this (from what I remember); 1 maf, 1 vamp, 1 sk, 1 other role that wasn't town, and me, who was claiming psychic. The "town" was wanting to lynch the sk, and through some other leads that I can't remember, they knew I wasn't sk, so they inno'd me and upped the sk, who left. It was last trial however, so it didn't matter. Night comes, and I decide to not infect the last person, as I had claimed pb earlier to get me down from the stand, which honestly was probably not necessary. When the night ended, however, I got the notification that I turned to pestilence, and walked out to being the only town left. The mafioso and vamp killed each other, and I can't remember what happened to the last person. So that was a surprise
Yeah bg can't protect from a hm attack because unlike necro (who's the other astral attacker) who always sends a corpse or a ghoul to visit which hm lacks the ability to visit when they can attack. Keep in mind they're the only tp that can't stop a hm attack, probably because of an oversight in the code for bg that it only attacks visiting attackers and hm can never be one
My very first pest win happen last night. I wanted to do the silent pb strat lay as low as possible. I didn’t infect anyone for as long as I could, I was number 15 and have NO idea how I was never visited at all. But fast forward to the final 4, a necro, a surv, a trapper, and a pb. I have been a vocal unclaimed person who pushed evils and seemed as town as possible. Well with 4 people left it was role call time. Still at this point no one is infected. I push the surv claim because can’t trust em, thought they could be necro, turns out they were real surv, at night I infect the trapper because they can’t visit and necro used mafioso on me, so then I turn pest. Thinking TARNATION they are gonna vote pest, but then out walks only 2 people, trapper died and I collected my first Pest W. Then tos Karma gave me surv the next game for having no mercy to the other surv.
As cool as the Pestilence and Juggernaut roles are, it'd be nice if they got some changes to make them more powerful. First, they should get rid of the notification that appears when the Plaguebearer becomes Pestilence. Reward the player by giving them a chance to land a juicy rampage against several targets instead of the boring, predictable response of everyone staying home at night. As for Juggernaut, I think that it should gain Powerful defense at some point (maybe once it fully powers up). Considering how rare it is, as well as the fact that you can only buy Juggernaut scrolls with Town Points, it deserves to be far more intimidating. As it stands now, it just feels like a weaker version of the Werewolf, except it has a very niche and impractical Unstoppable attack once fully powered. Obviously this would cause a tie between Pestilence and a fully powered Juggernaut, but I'd be fine with it. NK's have a rough time winning, and these two roles need some TLC like the other NK's got recently.
It also feeds pretty nicely into the chieve imo. As it stands the Jugg HAS to throw for the chieve, with this they can get it without throwing (as long as the chieve is hidden until post-game)
@@ladydovaky8491 They could make it so Jugg would transform into War themselves after the final kill and gain the Powerful defence through that. That way the victory screen could say: "Horsemen Win".
Shouldn't have whispered 10 after 2 claimed Exe to you. You tipped them off that they were a fellow Mafia. There was a chance that they could've made a mistake and say that 10 was their target, revealing them to be fake Exe. That's why they waited before telling you that 3 was their target. Heck, you could've whispered 3 and 8 after that interaction to trick 2.
Death transformation would have something to do with dead players while War would interact with killing roles. One of them could be brought out by another role's win condition, for example some kind of ritualist who would have to mark X amount of players in order to sack them alongside themselves to turn one of the marked players into it?
they absolutely still update the game, just prettty infrequently and only bug fixes, + cosmetics, but if we dont get new dlc this year or next its probably safe to say thats a wrap on that front
Actually realized if 15 wanted to, for future players who want to chain, after you're jailed you can test the other by asking "hey did you go on me last night" and see if they got the message that you were jailed. It wouldn't work if they were a framer or a similar role who chose to go on you consistently just incase of LO's, but this would significantly dwindle down the amount of possible roles they could be and prove that they are someone who is fake claiming
I can go back to your good plays after seeing that fucking masterful plays in the any coven game I just played. Medusa carry on hex and the intense bargaining, only to find out that pyschic was really a mafioso, with a trap on them from 4 turns ago. You are above average, but that mafioso put in the WORK man, nothing can compare to that.
I once won as ww. I claimed that 3 was ww saying \w 3 good job ww instead of /w 3 good job ww. They thought I was jest and 3 other people went to my targets house... they all died, and it was just me and arso. Arso hadn't even doused me yet so I had won by default.
Kinda curious since i've been consistently watching you for about a year and half or so but why did you start uploading videos with multiple matches on it? I think it's awesome you can keep the same schedule with almost double output of the amount of content and it's great :)
Am I the only one who noticed that for the first game not only did he have still-alive players missing from his notes, but also had dead players still on it? He usually removes dead players from his notes and keeps alive players on…
got my first pb game and first jugg game in the same day, managed to become pest and win, then i got a draw with a medusa as the jugg (they had necronomicon) , kinda funny since ive never won as an sk/arso since im relatively new
I remember getting amne for the first time, someone exclaiming to have gotten the "best role" after which me and someone else typed "vet bait?". He became quite salty, pretended to be sheriff and got me voted out (of course not without calling me "fahhg"). Some people need to touch grass smh
As soon as I saw that, I knew that either they were jailor/pirate, or one of the infected was the jailor/pirate that went on 8, since those are the only non-astral day visitors.
Lol Pipe I'm the Jewsheisty guy you got revenge on in your second game. Sad to see my inspiration for All Any Stab me. (Yes I was salty for bm spam LOL)
Town protection chain. Where doc heals eachother, or other healing/guarding role protect you. (You could also get tricked and noone was protecting you, or it was a potion master who healed you, or a maf/other killing role who didn't target you). But it's pretty powerful if you got it set up, since noone could kill you (and your healed partner). Voting power and what knot, if both of you made it to late game and there's a 2v1 scenario or something like that.
2nd game was fantastic, the BM'er did well but the other maf where poor. You had it all to do but just got pipped at the end by a very patient arso. Unlucky but very well played, great game to watch.
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You also need coven (there is a chance that you get a non coven game).
just a small note, i really like seeing the end screen where all the roles are listed. sometimes, the graveyard doesn't show the correct roles because of framer, dusa, and jani
@@gforce7431 Ah I see them now, thx!
Forger you mean.
@Zypher Ik, saw them after : -\ will do but damn, harsh
Forger*
I like how 1 was like "you are getting played" and Pipe is like "am I?" while secretly fooling everyone.
Well played!
Tbh the second game is kinda indicative on how leavers and afk people can mess up games, with hypnotist leaving a possible 4 mafia game, 11 being afk sitting on a wealth of information, and 5 rage quitting a game they could have won if they just roleblocked pipe one more time. Also surprised you didn't suspect 2 being something else considering how long they took to say a target
On my first pestilence game I had a little bit ago, I had got to late game, and was outed as having defense. I was upped, however the rolelist was like this (from what I remember); 1 maf, 1 vamp, 1 sk, 1 other role that wasn't town, and me, who was claiming psychic. The "town" was wanting to lynch the sk, and through some other leads that I can't remember, they knew I wasn't sk, so they inno'd me and upped the sk, who left. It was last trial however, so it didn't matter. Night comes, and I decide to not infect the last person, as I had claimed pb earlier to get me down from the stand, which honestly was probably not necessary.
When the night ended, however, I got the notification that I turned to pestilence, and walked out to being the only town left. The mafioso and vamp killed each other, and I can't remember what happened to the last person. So that was a surprise
On my first “pest” game I died right when I would become pest
@@syren1028 lol
Yeah bg can't protect from a hm attack because unlike necro (who's the other astral attacker) who always sends a corpse or a ghoul to visit which hm lacks the ability to visit when they can attack. Keep in mind they're the only tp that can't stop a hm attack, probably because of an oversight in the code for bg that it only attacks visiting attackers and hm can never be one
That escort play to avoid sus was genius wow
Why am I always here when you upload I need to sleep but I refuse
Same
Same 2
Same 4
Same 3
Same 5
My very first pest win happen last night. I wanted to do the silent pb strat lay as low as possible. I didn’t infect anyone for as long as I could, I was number 15 and have NO idea how I was never visited at all. But fast forward to the final 4, a necro, a surv, a trapper, and a pb. I have been a vocal unclaimed person who pushed evils and seemed as town as possible. Well with 4 people left it was role call time. Still at this point no one is infected. I push the surv claim because can’t trust em, thought they could be necro, turns out they were real surv, at night I infect the trapper because they can’t visit and necro used mafioso on me, so then I turn pest. Thinking TARNATION they are gonna vote pest, but then out walks only 2 people, trapper died and I collected my first Pest W. Then tos Karma gave me surv the next game for having no mercy to the other surv.
makes sense
That was the cleanest pest game I've seen.
Thanks for putting the stoned/cleaned roles in at the end normally I go crazy looking for them.
Ah, yes, 1:13... As the old saying goes, "Giles Corey always evil."
17:11 I like that no one liked the AH comment to the point they mock that person and voted them out lmao. 😂
Lol the vet being so upset for ripping the bait was great
As cool as the Pestilence and Juggernaut roles are, it'd be nice if they got some changes to make them more powerful.
First, they should get rid of the notification that appears when the Plaguebearer becomes Pestilence. Reward the player by giving them a chance to land a juicy rampage against several targets instead of the boring, predictable response of everyone staying home at night.
As for Juggernaut, I think that it should gain Powerful defense at some point (maybe once it fully powers up). Considering how rare it is, as well as the fact that you can only buy Juggernaut scrolls with Town Points, it deserves to be far more intimidating. As it stands now, it just feels like a weaker version of the Werewolf, except it has a very niche and impractical Unstoppable attack once fully powered.
Obviously this would cause a tie between Pestilence and a fully powered Juggernaut, but I'd be fine with it. NK's have a rough time winning, and these two roles need some TLC like the other NK's got recently.
Adding to your idea in regards to jugg and pest tying: that could actually become a unique ending for both where both of them win
It also feeds pretty nicely into the chieve imo. As it stands the Jugg HAS to throw for the chieve, with this they can get it without throwing (as long as the chieve is hidden until post-game)
@@ladydovaky8491 They could make it so Jugg would transform into War themselves after the final kill and gain the Powerful defence through that. That way the victory screen could say: "Horsemen Win".
@sintheemptyone8108 that's a cool idea.
@@sasakithesolemnone8108 *huh*, aged well
Man, recently when I watch these I forget that they are achievement hunter games lol.
"Pestilence can never lose at night"
Yeah tell that to the Jugg I ran into on the only game where I didn't get immediately lynched lol
pest kills jugg just fine tho
Shouldn't have whispered 10 after 2 claimed Exe to you. You tipped them off that they were a fellow Mafia. There was a chance that they could've made a mistake and say that 10 was their target, revealing them to be fake Exe.
That's why they waited before telling you that 3 was their target. Heck, you could've whispered 3 and 8 after that interaction to trick 2.
Also their fellow maf was Bmer so he was reading the whispers anyways. Lmao
Honestly, I'm surprised he trusted the exe claim
@@geo4876 it was plausible, verrry quiet arso
I had to laugh at you relaying info to you other maf when he was bmer. XD
I know the dev’s probably don’t update the game anymore, but what if they added all of the other Horsemen of the Apocalypse?
But what would they do?
Death transformation would have something to do with dead players while War would interact with killing roles.
One of them could be brought out by another role's win condition, for example some kind of ritualist who would have to mark X amount of players in order to sack them alongside themselves to turn one of the marked players into it?
they absolutely still update the game, just prettty infrequently and only bug fixes, + cosmetics, but if we dont get new dlc this year or next its probably safe to say thats a wrap on that front
Enter Town of Salem 2
awesome video
Thank you so much
At last my favorite UA-camr posts right before I go to bed! I must watch!
Meanwhile Salem herself: srsly?! I looked away for 5 MINUTES!
Actually realized if 15 wanted to, for future players who want to chain, after you're jailed you can test the other by asking "hey did you go on me last night" and see if they got the message that you were jailed. It wouldn't work if they were a framer or a similar role who chose to go on you consistently just incase of LO's, but this would significantly dwindle down the amount of possible roles they could be and prove that they are someone who is fake claiming
I like the pop that says what the stoned roles where, also I was confused with 2 medusas, so rare Pest win!
I can go back to your good plays after seeing that fucking masterful plays in the any coven game I just played. Medusa carry on hex and the intense bargaining, only to find out that pyschic was really a mafioso, with a trap on them from 4 turns ago. You are above average, but that mafioso put in the WORK man, nothing can compare to that.
Love watching your videos at night (I am American) Also Really enjoyed the first episode of the tournament
pipe whispering the bmer to tell him what he heard in whispers from someone else LOL
Pog a new video!
You attacked you attacked you attacked someone
Gotta love how toxic 8 was in the second game but everyone ignored him & said their ggs.
Hindsight is 20/20 but the delay on 2 giving their target was a sign. Not that I would have caught that in the moment.
I once won as ww. I claimed that 3 was ww saying \w 3 good job ww instead of /w 3 good job ww. They thought I was jest and 3 other people went to my targets house... they all died, and it was just me and arso. Arso hadn't even doused me yet so I had won by default.
Kinda curious since i've been consistently watching you for about a year and half or so but why did you start uploading videos with multiple matches on it? I think it's awesome you can keep the same schedule with almost double output of the amount of content and it's great :)
Pipe is too smart for these people
Your videos make me happy :)
Am I the only one who noticed that for the first game not only did he have still-alive players missing from his notes, but also had dead players still on it? He usually removes dead players from his notes and keeps alive players on…
got my first pb game and first jugg game in the same day, managed to become pest and win, then i got a draw with a medusa as the jugg (they had necronomicon) , kinda funny since ive never won as an sk/arso since im relatively new
You could see 8 was jailor because they got infected as soon as N2 started
the entire mafia got stoned :troll:
man the UI has changed so much since when I used to play...and theres no bots anymore!
2 took wayyy too long to whisper back, I was so suspicious of them and then BOOM, rip
It’s a good day when pipe posts
Pipe...I would not have trusted an exe claim that late into the game.
I remember getting amne for the first time, someone exclaiming to have gotten the "best role" after which me and someone else typed "vet bait?". He became quite salty, pretended to be sheriff and got me voted out (of course not without calling me "fahhg"). Some people need to touch grass smh
I like the runescape sea shanty
I always get upped and hung as soon as I turn into pest
Ngl whenever I fool someone as Pestilence I always feel like Darth Vader in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 2. 'N I just be like "I lied"
POG
Fresh Princess as BMer is satisfying o3o
i love games like this lol
it's 3 am and i've been binging in ur vids plz i need to
sleep😭😭
I literally don't understand a single thing that's going on. But it's somehow interesting to watch?
I can’t believe you visited me n1
The stoning literally won you the game
i think pipe just MIGHVE attacked somebody in the thumbnail
So at 3:56 when it went to night how did 8 get instantly infected?
8 Was Jailor and he jailed an infected target
As soon as I saw that, I knew that either they were jailor/pirate, or one of the infected was the jailor/pirate that went on 8, since those are the only non-astral day visitors.
I don't know why Hypno would leave. That's my favorite role
Lol Pipe I'm the Jewsheisty guy you got revenge on in your second game. Sad to see my inspiration for All Any Stab me. (Yes I was salty for bm spam LOL)
Pesty
Hello Tron
"PB day 1 claim, please don't visit me"
rip taeyeon
Whats that intro music
man its been to long since ive played tos wtf is a tp chain
Town protection chain.
Where doc heals eachother, or other healing/guarding role protect you.
(You could also get tricked and noone was protecting you, or it was a potion master who healed you, or a maf/other killing role who didn't target you).
But it's pretty powerful if you got it set up, since noone could kill you (and your healed partner). Voting power and what knot, if both of you made it to late game and there's a 2v1 scenario or something like that.
I am in the wrong neighborhood. I never played town of salem and I have no idea what the fuck is going on.
Comments don't help either
Whats chain?
Gg arso holy shit
has been a bit since I ve watched
Giles Corey always evil
shott another vigi in classic it killed all the fake claims
What does imo mean
in my opinion :)
bestilence
The names in game #2... yikes lmao
Brim
2nd game was fantastic, the BM'er did well but the other maf where poor. You had it all to do but just got pipped at the end by a very patient arso. Unlucky but very well played, great game to watch.
Your intro is always the biggest let down for all the OSRS gamers. You cut away just before the sea shanty 2 drop.