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  • @augafrost4158
    @augafrost4158 8 років тому +20

    1. Cassiopeia 0:36
    2. Malphite 3:33
    3. Illaoi 5:45
    4. Wukong 8:39
    5. Kennen 10:58
    HM: 12:54

  • @kennethnapaluch7855
    @kennethnapaluch7855 8 років тому

    I agree I already know the pros and con's. This format is much better! Thanks for the videos!

  • @ilcorvo1497
    @ilcorvo1497 8 років тому

    Hi rvz is ekko in your opinion a strong pick with the trinity build? The new format is very good btw

  • @JayDiamond14
    @JayDiamond14 8 років тому

    this new format is really great dude. seeing as to why and when these op champions are good instead of how is much better to watch. i say keep the format this way c:

  • @johnnylamonte3451
    @johnnylamonte3451 8 років тому

    I welcome this new format. My friend who has been playing this game the longest was talking to me about how Riot seems to be reworking champions to fulfill certain purposes, as opposed to just being ''overall'' powerful. Knowing when to choose a champion is definitely something we all should start learning.

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      Appreciate the input bro

    • @BrokeMalone
      @BrokeMalone 8 років тому

      +RvzStealth run it likes phylo format hes the man

  • @francoisgm4356
    @francoisgm4356 8 років тому

    The new way is very interesting, i love your vids bro, even though the camera lock is tilting me af :P (have an awesome day dude)

  • @chinoalbertuz6120
    @chinoalbertuz6120 8 років тому

    I really like this new format, it's more useful than the other, you're great M8, hope you continue like this. Saying hi from Argentina

  • @PanConides
    @PanConides 8 років тому +1

    You deserve more subs! Keep it up :)

  • @Winged_Yoshi
    @Winged_Yoshi 8 років тому

    So, what about quinn? What do you think of her in the top lane?

  • @falcoelempresario
    @falcoelempresario 8 років тому

    Hey rvz reallyi like this new format but i think the old format was usefull too so if you want to find a way to mix them it would be awsomel. Btw I'm a Shen main and i want to know what you think about him fir soloQ.

  • @rdp8148
    @rdp8148 8 років тому +1

    The new layout is tons better thank you! :)

  • @BrownGaming24
    @BrownGaming24 8 років тому

    The format is a nice new change! I like it!

  • @NautRengar
    @NautRengar 8 років тому +1

    I prefer the new format over the old format. I like the 'when you should pick'

  • @jakecampbell1
    @jakecampbell1 8 років тому

    I really enjoyed the new format dude keep up the good work

  • @Filimus09
    @Filimus09 8 років тому

    This a much better format!!! My main gripe with your channel was that you never put the champions into to context with the meta, you just talked about their strengths and weaknesses overall, which you can say about pretty much every champion.

  • @mohammadsalah6848
    @mohammadsalah6848 8 років тому +3

    the new format is better than the old one imo

  • @tylercollins7953
    @tylercollins7953 8 років тому

    What do you think about playing Kennen or riven mid rather than top?

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      They can both work mid, I wouldnt blind pick riven mid though unless you are really confident on her.

  • @jialianggg
    @jialianggg 8 років тому

    gj dood! this format is much better. and i think you should also state like the hard match ups for the champions and explain why its hard

    • @jialianggg
      @jialianggg 8 років тому

      thanks for adding the new feature. its really helpful and informative. you're videos are great mn

  • @chasers556
    @chasers556 8 років тому

    Great video man, I've been wanting to go top more. Just bought malphite. Thanks so much!

    • @chasers556
      @chasers556 8 років тому

      I sent you a request on league

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      Of course bro I will accept when I go on later tonight! The only condition I ask is that you dont send me game invites when im online. I usually only play ranked, but when im recording for videos I invite people so thats when we could play. Anyways, glad you enjoy the content!

    • @chasers556
      @chasers556 8 років тому

      +RvzStealth thanks man keep going. I really liked the video. No problem I have a d1 on my friend and I can't bug him at all lol

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      Thanks man!

    • @chasers556
      @chasers556 8 років тому

      +RvzStealth you got snapchat?

  • @robbiehill8636
    @robbiehill8636 8 років тому

    Hey RvZ! Love the new format :) Was really hoping you could tell us how you think the GP nerfs have effected his play style. Would be awesome hearing your thoughts on how to best manage the weaker early game to reach that hyper-carry late game :) Love your vids btw!

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому +1

      You basically just have to play really safe and keep up in farm in lane without letting the enemy laner solo kill you. With there being alot of strong early game top laners right now being played its often hard to do so. All of the gangplanks ive seen this patch have really struggled to reach that late game because they either just get camped hard or they get solo killed in lane. I guess the best way to reach late game is to make sure you are warding and try not to shove the wave out. It you shove wave and you are against an Irelia, Wukong, Riven then they can all easily jump on you and burst you at level 6 even if you have flash most of the time.

  • @gyvn1
    @gyvn1 8 років тому

    2 quick questions.
    1. Will you release a video for midlaners?
    2. Do you think Shen, Darius and Ryze are good to pick for top? Im gonna try out malphite if he's as viable toplaner just like in 5.2~

  • @pineypenguin7200
    @pineypenguin7200 8 років тому

    what about gnar? I think he really good. there's not that many champs that counter him but I want to know what you thin of him rvzstealth

  • @YahYoEe
    @YahYoEe 8 років тому

    Thx Rvz, think this format is much better

  • @evanm8949
    @evanm8949 8 років тому

    is swain still good?

  • @AmineSAMP
    @AmineSAMP 8 років тому +1

    what about renekton ?

  • @firatg9964
    @firatg9964 8 років тому

    And How usefull/Good is Gnar for your opinion ?

    • @muffenman4557
      @muffenman4557 8 років тому

      It depends early champs can kill him early but champs that are lane bullies can't do to much and he counters all champs that use late game focused builds as well as no mobitily top laners

  • @chillbro2275
    @chillbro2275 8 років тому

    nice kiting with Cass man! didn't know she had a last hitting tool! good to know thanks. I'm looking for a new mid/top laner

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      give her a shot, her winrate for top lane even went up this patch to 60% which is insane.

  • @elicarayannopoulos9036
    @elicarayannopoulos9036 8 років тому

    This format is great keep it up

  • @temperwolf9937
    @temperwolf9937 8 років тому

    The new format is amazing. When is the jungle one goin out

  • @random37996
    @random37996 8 років тому

    What you think about top lane Ryze?

    • @awesomeassasinkid
      @awesomeassasinkid 8 років тому +1

      lowest win rate

    • @muffenman4557
      @muffenman4557 8 років тому

      +Non Dank ryze is a hard champ and requires hi kiteing skills agenst gnar and teemo and Jayce he is useless and you must use him to his fullest if you want to win lane

  • @gordansphisherman2983
    @gordansphisherman2983 8 років тому

    no Darius or Gnar?

  • @giacomoranieri6921
    @giacomoranieri6921 8 років тому

    I love this new format!

  • @lukeh7511
    @lukeh7511 8 років тому

    why no ekko ? liking the new format btw

  • @mayessbaccari1610
    @mayessbaccari1610 8 років тому

    What about Irelia and Darius ?

  • @gonzalocornejo9267
    @gonzalocornejo9267 8 років тому

    its a pretty nice format "why" and "when" ncie job ;3

  • @grahamprichard6429
    @grahamprichard6429 8 років тому

    The format is 100x better than before

  • @Blaidd101
    @Blaidd101 8 років тому

    I like the new format
    gj

  • @aldeca2377
    @aldeca2377 8 років тому

    This format seems better and yes I was one of those who was bored by the pros and cons

  • @johnho3141
    @johnho3141 8 років тому

    Like the new format!

  • @theaussiepatriot7874
    @theaussiepatriot7874 8 років тому

    thing is with illaoi is that most people stack Q or w... the best way to play Her is to stack her E against range top laners so that you can harass the shit out of them back. if you land a Q and them with E up then they half health instantly. I never stack Q first because even when stacking it still doesn't do the damage. and the first item i go for is frozen heart due to the mana, armor combined with Cool down reduction. Illaoi already does a lot of damage without damage items so stacking armor early helps with range fighters

    • @jimcharles9330
      @jimcharles9330 8 років тому

      except for the fact that u kill her tentacles and she loses a lot of damage and if u move a lot and side step her q and tentacles she puts out no damage really and e moves pretty slow and u stand behind minions she won't land it half the time

  • @colbycarmichael5138
    @colbycarmichael5138 8 років тому

    i like the new format cuz u were right how we all pretty much know the pros and cons. I also think gnar should be on this list cause he can kite like crazy with mallet and his cc is insane and he is also good into riven who is strong this patch

    • @wilsonn6767
      @wilsonn6767 8 років тому

      riven sucks xD

    • @colbycarmichael5138
      @colbycarmichael5138 8 років тому

      +Wilsonn she only sucks if ur bad at her but after her buff a good riven player can snowball a game like crazy

  • @scouse2359
    @scouse2359 8 років тому

    what about yorick? :P or does that go without saying haha

  • @joeylam.827
    @joeylam.827 8 років тому

    I love this format!

  • @mark2167a
    @mark2167a 8 років тому

    Please continue with this new format, its is way better :)

  • @decrxption6129
    @decrxption6129 8 років тому +1

    I like this new idea 👍

  • @safsafdelrey8216
    @safsafdelrey8216 8 років тому

    the new form is awesome exactly as i always wanted :D

  • @bulbasaurpokemon3573
    @bulbasaurpokemon3573 8 років тому +1

    I played a normal game with Vayne, my lee sin jungle said that vayne sucks and feeds only [lee flamed WHOLE GAME] then zyra supp said "wtf r u building vayne" I had PD-->Berzerk-->Youmoo, then they all laughed at my face, then 40 mins into game, full build [AD 100% Crit] I hit 1600 EA per Q+AA, 1 regular AA = 1000-1200, then they were like wtf that dmg, then I said "do u know understand why bork build is bad and full ad op?", all silent :D

  • @pedrosimoesps
    @pedrosimoesps 8 років тому

    i prefer the pros and cons but i like this 2. you could put tho old ones in the left side

  • @alejandrob.r.2256
    @alejandrob.r.2256 8 років тому

    I like the format but new champs or strange champs can also have pros and cons in their first appearance. :3

  • @EddyDaboy
    @EddyDaboy 8 років тому

    Do you think Garen should get a rework?
    Because he is never in the top 5 toplaners list and has a lot of problems too

    • @Zebdess
      @Zebdess 8 років тому

      he is completely fine. just for lower elo.. you can get diamond with him. I did lul

    • @EddyDaboy
      @EddyDaboy 8 років тому

      Dee not true ask anyone in high elo they will tell you he sucks

    • @Zebdess
      @Zebdess 8 років тому

      +Legendary SSS because you can kite him easy. same goes for nasus and darius

    • @lucian8533
      @lucian8533 8 років тому

      he is ok for bronze and silver

    • @EddyDaboy
      @EddyDaboy 8 років тому

      Dee But Darius is actually good and popular in high elo so the problem is Garen's kit

  • @Maximilmax
    @Maximilmax 8 років тому

    What about ryze?

  • @gggghhhh5372
    @gggghhhh5372 8 років тому +1

    when i saw the dammge of wukong ult to the vayne i remembered the garen spin that deal more dammge

    • @blackziani9794
      @blackziani9794 8 років тому

      wukong is all about the burst combo not consist dmg

    • @gggghhhh5372
      @gggghhhh5372 8 років тому

      +Black Ziani lol garen have more burst with Q E combo add to that the ult

    • @blackziani9794
      @blackziani9794 8 років тому

      +Gggg Hhhh just play wukong and u'll see what i'm talking about

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      but as you saw vayne did not expect the wukong to jump on her whereas garen will just get kited by vayne since he doesnt have a dash.

    • @gggghhhh5372
      @gggghhhh5372 8 років тому

      +RvzStealth the vayne pressed Q + she can t kite the garen if she got exhausted too add to that the silence so she can t flash even or out play him

  • @lucian8533
    @lucian8533 8 років тому +8

    gp is better than cassio in my opinion,and gnar deserves to be on the list,the black cleaver and mallet build is very strong.I am surprised that jayce is on the list , i know he got a buff but he is not that strong.

    • @driezewies1
      @driezewies1 8 років тому +1

      i agree but gankplank is kinda gutted in the earlygame and we are in a meta with good early-mid game champs
      so he is still good late but you will struggle in the early game

    • @WhateverYouLove
      @WhateverYouLove 8 років тому

      40 HP and some mana cost changes on W did not gut him at all. He's still a very safe laner with strong global presence and even if all goes wrong he can stall out games for very long with his godlike waveclear until he wrecks everyone in the late game.

    • @driezewies1
      @driezewies1 8 років тому

      about that globle presence, thats nerfed too and REALLY hard in the early game.
      + 40 less hp is more than you think tho, the mana costs are annoying but not to significant
      still he could dominate the early and lategame but i think his early game will now be a lot weaker

    • @WhateverYouLove
      @WhateverYouLove 8 років тому

      He still has a lot of global presence. GP rushes 45% CDR so he'll effectively only have to wait 12 more seconds before his ult is up compared to previous patch. The damage nerf wasn't that hard either, maybe he will have a hard time sniping low health targets now but if he ults to help in a skirmish the effect will pretty much be the same as it was before, his ult early is more about the slow and zoning anyway

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      Ive played against a few this patch and they all did so poorly early game that they were never able to reach his mid to late game power spike. Like I said in the video hes still good in the right hands but you have to be really careful early since there are alot of top laners who can kill him in the first few levels.

  • @justinzeng2336
    @justinzeng2336 8 років тому

    I like this format and can u also make more best duol que champion

  • @DomWarfield
    @DomWarfield 8 років тому

    I like both formats! Old or new!

  • @etiennemadore5899
    @etiennemadore5899 8 років тому

    For me gnar with frozen mallet and ekko with the trinity build a realy good if they are master

  • @MoneyTreeCare
    @MoneyTreeCare 8 років тому

    I actually enjoy these types of videos. Great inspiration as always. I just started doing my own top 5 vids again after making too many political videos. They are so fun to make, hope that I can get to the caliber here in time. Let me know if you folks have any video ideas!!

  • @andreasson
    @andreasson 8 років тому

    Haha, nice counter play to Illaoi "Run away"

  • @chillbro2275
    @chillbro2275 8 років тому

    I liked the format. good idea

  • @drummysvapors
    @drummysvapors 8 років тому

    I think yas is number 1 he has one of the highest win rates with the tri force frozen mallet build at like 56% euw and na and shen deserves a spot on there while the meta isnt very self reliant he fits in there nicely.

  • @naister16
    @naister16 8 років тому

    and Swain?

  • @balz8286
    @balz8286 8 років тому

    Why no Jax?

  • @dechateh
    @dechateh 8 років тому +5

    where is shen?

    • @Soussouni1
      @Soussouni1 8 років тому

      i agree shen is good, he should be there instead of jayce in my opinion

    • @muffenman4557
      @muffenman4557 8 років тому

      Shen gets countered so easily any early focused champ counters him and unless ur Shen main since 2007 you are going to stay behind the whole game I love fighting Shen as a Quinn panth and fizz main

    • @dechateh
      @dechateh 8 років тому

      Spicey Ninja shen isnt Bad...his r can win 2v2 on bot ez and he has cheeper items than (gnar)so farm isnt THE important think for him. If hes just playing Safe and dont die 1v1 top is good

    • @dechateh
      @dechateh 8 років тому

      Panth. Main. -.-..

    • @muffenman4557
      @muffenman4557 8 років тому

      im lamo rn

  • @youssefomera7596
    @youssefomera7596 8 років тому

    why and when do i play ahri?

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому +4

      shes really good right now due to the meta being pretty squishy but basically she is best if the enemy has champions who just want to run straight at you or dont have a gap closer. For example a few days ago the enemy team had a jax and a shaco and everytime they tried to jump in I would just charm them and blow em up. Shes also good against low mobility or mid laners who are skillshot reliant. Someone like lux can struggle really hard at level 6 against ahri because her likelihood of hitting a skillshot while ahris ults up is very low.

  • @no-one-you-know-really
    @no-one-you-know-really 8 років тому

    yasou cant wind wall cass ulti, anni incinerate or cho' feral scream

  • @PaulM1810
    @PaulM1810 8 років тому

    Why? and When? is a good idea to talk about :)

  • @Tzeeensh
    @Tzeeensh 8 років тому

    I think Shen should be here.
    Great scalling tank, best global in the game specially considering the TP nerf, very few counters (which are not played a lot) and a very decent early game.
    And I also don't agree on the Malphite vs Fiora matchup.
    Fiora HAS to be shut down early, Malphite won't really be able to do that, and when she has 2 items, I don't see Malphite being able to hold her.

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      Shen isnt really a carry top laner. He can help his team carry but its hard for him to solo carry himself. Hes played alot in competative due to his global pressure and having the ability to coordinate dives and picks across the map whereas in solo queue its harder to do so. Statistaclly speaking Malphite has a very good win rate against Fiora and can do well if he maxes e first because fiora wont even be able to auto him due to the massive attack speed slow.

    • @Tzeeensh
      @Tzeeensh 8 років тому

      I thought it was a video about "The best" toplaners and not "the best toplaners to carry with" tho' :D
      I'm surprised about Malph vs Fiora winrate tbh, Fiora isn't really reliant on auto attacks anyway and being able to parry his ult is a very big thing. This matchup has always went well with my Fiora.
      Nice vid still, I think the Pros & Cons are great, many of us don't need it, but it's great for low elo players & newbies.

  • @Noahti
    @Noahti 8 років тому

    @RvzStealth Good Like the Format why Not showing short the pro/cons for the guys the dont know, mean dont Talk about then but just leave Them in screen who Wand to read it can pause

  • @oreomilk9912
    @oreomilk9912 8 років тому

    the ignite at 10:00 lol

  • @MoatazElSherbeny
    @MoatazElSherbeny 8 років тому

    i love why and when ,, keep it up and make a video for adc's plz and supp's

  • @xakashi12123
    @xakashi12123 8 років тому

    found myself in your video, that game was pure torture

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      which game? haha

    • @xakashi12123
      @xakashi12123 8 років тому

      RvzStealth The malphite gameplay, you destroyed me when i was on lucian. You and lee just really shit on everyone, and even though i got a double kill bot lane, you guys had such a lead, just pooped on us any time we tried to fight you. personally i think i was way out of position the last fight, but it didn't really matter anyway lol. i also had mistaked you for someone on my friends list because i recognized the name, which made me feel really dumb afterwards lol

  • @donaldmiller2437
    @donaldmiller2437 8 років тому

    Wheres Gnar?

  • @johnshin4173
    @johnshin4173 8 років тому

    This format is very good

  • @maverickspinzgau9305
    @maverickspinzgau9305 8 років тому

    Guys go Rod and then Ludens on malph after that full tank!

  • @BorisBing
    @BorisBing 8 років тому

    I like the new format

  • @MrFrostynugs420
    @MrFrostynugs420 8 років тому

    do videos on champions that counter the top 5 winrate or most played champions, give 3 counters per popular pick.

    • @MrFrostynugs420
      @MrFrostynugs420 8 років тому

      I feel that's the best way to climb, the "counter stats" websites don't do a good job at all and are extremely popular. I have a list with all the champions and who hard counters them, its about 1/2 way now, help me fill it xD

    • @MrFrostynugs420
      @MrFrostynugs420 8 років тому

      +David Richards do each role, thats a possible 5 videos per patch, guarantee your subs will skyrocket, I've watched all your videos for years it feels, keep it up brotha man

  • @TheSaverFlaver
    @TheSaverFlaver 8 років тому

    how Good is poppy now?

    • @Bigmeattyrone
      @Bigmeattyrone 8 років тому

      decent if u get ahead. u r literally a frontline who takes no damage. i was 6/1/1 as lucian and faced a fed poppy, therrs literally no counterplay. dash+cc is too op

  • @charliemlcek8710
    @charliemlcek8710 8 років тому

    I like this format.

  • @rudymiranda2377
    @rudymiranda2377 8 років тому

    renekton?

  • @Tamelin
    @Tamelin 8 років тому

    como vc ousa nao falar meu main Warwick ?????

  • @Daveee.gti18
    @Daveee.gti18 8 років тому

    How about garen?

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      not really the best carry top laner, doesnt have reliable engage and lacks teamfight.

  • @valenesco45
    @valenesco45 8 років тому

    this format is better i like it more

  • @DryNugget
    @DryNugget 8 років тому

    I think its a great idea, it helps a lot

  • @cedric8948
    @cedric8948 8 років тому

    Why xin xhao is never on ur list of top laner champ. i really ball with him when playing top lane +RvzStealth

  • @ashleeashelle
    @ashleeashelle 8 років тому +1

    hmm why no vlad, thought he was still op

    • @kossat1
      @kossat1 8 років тому

      vlad nerfed too much

  • @Szederp
    @Szederp 8 років тому

    Illaois should not exist in a game such as League. Press R and just watch the screen. Never thought they could come up with something more braindead with Darius. Good shit.

  • @jahinoel1365
    @jahinoel1365 8 років тому

    I like the format

  • @alexbrownthemovietm4718
    @alexbrownthemovietm4718 8 років тому

    no riven?

    • @wilsonn6767
      @wilsonn6767 8 років тому

      riven still sucks lol

    • @muffenman4557
      @muffenman4557 8 років тому

      +Wilsonn not really 600 damage form lvl 6 is a lot and she can get you low with free trades at lvl 3 by just saving e to get out and then she had like the best all in ever

  • @romariobailey2756
    @romariobailey2756 8 років тому +1

    I don't understand why people play ranged mages top and call them top laners. Of course if you pick a ranged mage top lane they will win lane due to the fact that they are RANGED. They will just out play everything and kite. Its like playing veiger top and calling him a top laner.

  • @blakerush3895
    @blakerush3895 8 років тому

    I'm a GP main and you can still wreck very easily and carry games with him

  • @benhanson6720
    @benhanson6720 8 років тому

    What about yasuo

  • @chuyuan2012
    @chuyuan2012 8 років тому

    I'm surprised Yasuo isn't number one or even anywhere on this list. He's pretty much god tier right now...

  • @RedRants1
    @RedRants1 8 років тому

    160 lp gained on malphite alone in 2 weeks sick carry. only 1 loss

  • @mattwinter4021
    @mattwinter4021 8 років тому

    i like the new setup

  • @juanantonio1365
    @juanantonio1365 8 років тому

    ye say why they are strong is a good think :D

  • @MilexCzechPlayer
    @MilexCzechPlayer 8 років тому

    where is gnar

  • @vukognjanovic4306
    @vukognjanovic4306 8 років тому

    I like this more because the pros and cons get really repetitive

    • @RvzStealth
      @RvzStealth  8 років тому

      Thanks for the feedback, thats what I was thinking too.

  • @NepolianZeeBean
    @NepolianZeeBean 8 років тому

    nice video!

  • @amoap603
    @amoap603 8 років тому

    do this for jg and adc I need it really bad!

    • @amoap603
      @amoap603 8 років тому

      and btw I think you should do pross and cons and when and why just to say pros and cons quickly at the end becuse it helps me a lot

    • @ksdsk
      @ksdsk 8 років тому

      Jinx, Jhin, Sivir, ADC Kennen (Hi Rekkles)

  • @ksdsk
    @ksdsk 8 років тому

    RvzStealth- "Malphite is the strongest engage champion"
    Me - But but but but... KLED? WUKONG? NAUTILUS? GNAR?

    • @amoap603
      @amoap603 8 років тому +1

      his ult is amazing game changing

    • @jialianggg
      @jialianggg 8 років тому +2

      they can be cced out. malphite/vi ignores cc tho

    • @alfieparry646
      @alfieparry646 8 років тому +1

      +jia liang Kled ignores cc with his ult.

    • @andrewy3976
      @andrewy3976 8 років тому

      He said one of the best, doesn't mean he is the #1;)

    • @StormyForest04
      @StormyForest04 8 років тому

      It's just that hitting malphite's R is easy af.