Lincoln Didn't Free The Enslaved. They Freed Themselves.
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2022
- Time and time again, Lincoln is touted by his most well-known monikers,
"The Great Emancipator" or "Savior of the Union." His entire presidential legacy is often summarized in an easy one liner: “Lincoln freed the slaves.” But for decades historians have argued for the agency of Black Americans in securing their own liberation during the Civil War. Kellie Carter Jackson, an Associate Professor in the Department of Africana Studies at Wellesley College, explains.
Without President Lincoln, the constitutional amendment ending slavery would not have been ratified to the constitution at that time in history. Lincoln’s actions made the end of slavery the law of the land. The law freed the slaves.
She so full of shit
Oh please. There’s a distinction between legal slavery and people walking away. As long as it was legal, no one “freed themselves.”
True, Lincoln did not free the slaves, he played a huge role. Without the civil war (which
he presided over and whose election was a catalyst for the civil war as slave states, particularly South Carolina, feared he would have threatened the institution of slavery), the 13th amendment would not have happened (or at least not as soon as it did). And the 13th amendment is what freed the slaves. Which was ratified by congress (without need of the president's support) thus freeing the slaves. This was the culmination of a movement over 100 years in the making brought about by white AND black abolitionists.
I hear a lot of wishful thinking and self bolstering, but no real facts.
So kanye was right slavery was a choice..... ahh
No he wasn't.
uh-oh- we're quoting Kanye now-
Nearly 200 years before slavery was abolished in the US, Black freedom-seekers journeyed south instead of north to a place that promised freedom.
In October 1687, a dugout canoe arrived at the shores of St Augustine, then a settlement in Spanish Florida and now the oldest continuously occupied city in the mainland US. The canoe carried eight men and two women, one of whom was holding a toddler in her arms. The travellers were Black fugitives who had escaped enslavement by British plantation owners in the Carolinas to the north. After disembarking from their vessel, they headed to the town centre in search of freedom "They went to present themselves to the governor of St Augustine," said Jane Landers, a professor of history at Vanderbilt University and a director of Slave Societies Digital Archive, which documents the history of enslaved Africans and their descendants. "They explained that they are asking for his protection, and that they wanted to become Catholics."
So a war started over slavery that allowed the slaves to escape... sounds like Lincoln going to war over slavery is what gave the slaves the opportunity to escape. Well done Abe.
Except Lincoln didn't even start the war. South Carolina started the war over slavery.
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The only reason south Carolina
And the other states went crazy was because lincoln won the presidency
@@williamisraelgomararias5737 You mean because Lincoln legitimately won the election (did not steal it) the south started the civil war? Doesn't that sound exactly like what's happening now? If the MAGAs start a second civil war, will you blame Biden for legitimately winning the election?
Honest
@@williamisraelgomararias5737Well stated William, it's really shameful that some black can't give credit to Lincoln. The same with not giving credit to LBJ as the best president for black Americans since Lincoln.
Or the credit for Hubert Humphrey for pushing through the first civil rights act since Reconstruction.
Truman was also a good president for black people. Truman desegregated the military.
I've noticed that a lot of pro black
content creators, have a racist view of white people.
The South ,s economy was greatly based on slave labour, Lincoln needed a reason to go to war with the South and ending slavery was it. The South was, more and more ,talking about separating from the North and forming their own country, Lincoln squashed that by forcing them into a war, thereby preserving the Union, slaves being freed was merely a sideaffect.
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Juneteenth is a day of making up absolutely anything you just feel like believing.
How can u say when they just proved that he didn’t… I think whites people just can’t fathom that thier ancestors made up a sad lie hundreds of years ago that taught future generations to make whites people look good.
shes right tho
Shame you waited so long if you could have just liberated yourself
@LP-on6kq there's a difference between claiming Lincoln freed the enslaved and saying the enslaved used the war to finally end the issue that divided the nation.
Lincoln certainly deserves credit for prosecuting the war, but it was escaped slaves who(along with the great Union forces of the North).did their part.
300,000 + white men died to end slavery....why not just say THANKS
Perhaps the UK abolished the slaves in the USA. The UK forbade slavery in 1833 so Canada became free territory so the underground railroad could work. If UK had not abolish the slaves the abolution movement would have been weaker and the fugative slaves could not have escaped.
Lincoln said himself that if he could save the Union without freeing the salves he would. He also said that slaves were not equal to white men.
So they freed themselves. So why did they allow themselves to be enslaved in the first place?
The invasion caused heavy casualties on the Conquistador and indigenous people side. The plantations were Big mommas houses as the men went to the deep south to fight the invading conquistadors without Indian men the indigenous women and children became POWs on the plantations.
Exactly they claim to be smarter than us and better than us meaning white people LOL if you think they would have seen it coming. The truth is these people were savages and barely above the way that animals lived and that's why they were so easy to subjugate I still don't think that they're the same species that we are and I really don't and I'm challenged any white person who's ever had significant contact of living within a community primarily black to say anything otherwise they're just not the same as us. We are better and I give 2 fucks if people don't like hearing that. A after all we have to listen to the b******* live coming out of our media constantly covering for these people Channing awesome blaming us for their s***** behavior f*** them
You can’t be black saying “They”. Y’all get on my nerves! Ughhhh
Because of money and power
@@lanternarrow so they got paid for it? Then they weren't slaves
Take away Lincoln, take away the emancipation and where are black people at today?
here
@@freeaccounts4real359 here as slaves
@@mickstuff2754 NAH BECUSE THEY FOUGHT FOR THY OWN FREEDOM CUZ LINCOIN BELIVED BLACK AND WHITE ARE NOT THE SAME AND THAT A WHITE IS superior HE ALSO WAS uncertain FOR THE BLACK TO RISE TO THEIR MASTERS ....
Liberia and / or Belize where a planned colony was set up to relocate them from America.
Still slaves, no other president would've done what he did thats why he was hated by alot of white people, a racist killed him over it and he died for the cause!
Pity they waited so long.
Imagine being in a land where you are taken to which is dominated by people who own weapons of mass destruction at that time. You’re destitute of food & stripped to nothing. Don’t think they were all already naked many were Muslims and practiced modesty.
Must. Work slowly. Until. You get. Your hands. Out the. White. Person. Grasp. Pres. Lincoln. Didn't do it.
Pity. When. Had we not freed. Ourselves. At. All. Bigots
This take is about as stupid as saying the war wasn't about slavery😂😂😂😂
It wasn't about slavery. It was about keeping the Union together and the introduction to capitalism.
The South was getting too powerful and wanted to separate
@@explainyourself8109 the south wanted to separate because slavery wouldn't be expanded anymore
It may be McCllalen had won at Richmond and Halleck started true battle at Corinth in 1862 the slavery system would have remained in the USA untill similar time as Brasil by 1889!
Check ✔️ it's Out.
In their fourth debate, at Charleston, Illinois, on September 18, 1858, Lincoln made his position clear. “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and Black races….” Don’t play yourself…We saved ourselves…The Union was LOSING so he reached out to us in DESPERATION…
Your statement is an over simplification. President Lincoln’s stance on slavery in the US evolved over his lifetime, over his years in office. He never questioned whether it was morally correct, he knew it wasn’t. It is insulting to claim he pursued abolition out of desperation.
Recreating history again.
lol
There ia an awful lot of nonsense coming out if US universities . Just think of South adrica, Zimbabwe, angola, jamaica ,haiti etc etc..
Crazy they waited so long and only a few took up Harriet on freedom
So true my sister, i often think of those 3 brothers who set it off. In the early months of the civil war the north was losing the war, and there 3 brothers on a Virginia plantation and one of them made a decision. Walk with me a minute, this brother was setting by a lake, thinking, the other 2 walked up and asked if he was ok, he looked at them and said, the south is winning this war, and if we don't help the north no telling how long we will be slaves. One of the other slaves asked him, what are we to do. He replied, leave here and go win this war for them and ourselves, the 3rd brother replied, you crazy, as the first brother got up and ran towards the water with the second brother a step behind, the third brother looked for a moment then turned and saw his brothers in the wind, yelled out, hold up you need me to show you how to do this. They crossed the river to Fort Monroe, and turn themselves over to General Bulter, at that time you had to return runaway slaves to their owners, but after General Bulter question them he told them that they that they didn't have to go back, when the owner can to get them, Bulter said no. The next day Bulter went to Congress and convinced them write a law, making them contraband of war, as the word got around, other slaves begin to run away, a black troop was started and the north begin to win. When Lincoln had completed the first draft of his speech, his secretary told him to hold up until the white troops had scored a victory, if not it would appear as if the north is stretching it's hands to Ethiopia and not the other way around. As Bob Malady said, "None but ourselves can free ourselves", and we have won every war for them for then until now, and today the so called Jews are upset because we refuse to stand with these so called Jews in Iasrel in their act of genocide against another people, as we foolishly help them destroy the Native Americans, which I do regret. please brothers and sisters, do your research, be mindful we suffer from the lack of knowledge, the knowledge of pass events. RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH, MAN KNOW THYSELF, AND KNOW OTHERS.
Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of white people lay down their lives so that your ancestors could be set free and to ignore that or to take the credit and put it where it doesn't belong to me means that you don't deserve the benefits of what these people lay down their lives for get the f*** out of our goddamn country
You’re fckn delusional. I believe everything you said, but you are very misguided. Blacks would still be enslaved without the cotton gin, and without white Christian abolitionists. Do not tell me how blacks are gods chosen people while you are barbecuing each other in the steeets in Haiti.
Uhhh , Lincoln freed the slaves, don’t be such a fool.
Slavery was in the north as well called indentured servitude they were not freed.
indentured servitude was nothing like chattel slavery.
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Funny the slaves were freed for McClallen and Halleck were wrong generals in 1862!
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she right buddy
They freed themselves while the civil war was happening, the civil war was to free the slaves
They would still be slaves if the civil war didn't happen. The british were freeing slaves around the world to the extent that they had ships around the coast of africa blocking african slave traders trying to bring slaves to america and the american government was basically embarrased into freeing their slaves, which they did
Oh, please. Lol.
AMEN 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏..
Bullishit.
I agree with her. And I disagree.
So God had no part? Sounds like 5% bs
Freed slaves didnt do much for haiti..
Well, then the war was a waste of time and lives. If the slaves freed themselves, why did they wait so long? Not hearing any facts, here. Lots of black supremacy, though. Hate to tell ya' race/color doesn't make anyone better than anyone else.
you just earned a subscriber!
I'm surprised you can read
BAD history full of falsehoods.
PREQCH
You know it was only one single word you had to get right and you couldn't even handle that and fucked it up ...wow
@@brianschmidt9919 you know what’s crazy?? There’s an edit button AND ELEVEN months later here you come talkin, that’s WILD!! you must really be bored. Just for that ima leave it the way it is 🤷🏾♂️😂
@@TalentedDrummer1 stupidity doesn't have a statute of limitations.
@@TalentedDrummer1 further one could say that 11 months later you're defensiveness and immediate reply is equally WILD
And you know what I'm going to step my comments back I don't have a problem with you as a person I have a problem with what's happening on how much
Broader way in that the group that you come from black people are given a license right now to do whatever the f*** they want to say whatever they want to make up whatever they want and nobody can challenge them unless by doing so they risk social ostracization and employment interference and losing their housing as result and covering up for behaviors from people from your community not wanting to report the race of people in crime reports because it doesn't fit with this false narrative that's been driven down the rest of our throats. Us and individual are not responsible for that and because you're from the community doesn't mean you get to be a punching bag for my frustration so I
Apologize
Truth
Who typed that for you
Black people freed themselves from the devil's with the help of GOD
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