I have a video with a more detailed description on how to upshift and downshift without the clutch, check it out and let me know if it helped you guys out, LINK: ua-cam.com/video/VfZYn9PlWY8/v-deo.html
I actually skipped gears during my school, while turning onto a main road. I jumped 4-6 without stalling, and my school instructor’s head went spinning. We were both saying *did that really just happen*.
Hunter Hudgins I bet, the truck I have got converted into a dump truck so it’s pretty light no problem when I skip gears, but don’t normally do it, i can also take off in 5th gear and it’s fine. This truck i only use it on weekends to sell material when people want small amounts, couple of yards.
Update... I obtained my CDL A license since I made the comment. I got hired on by CRST. I went through 6 weeks with my trainer. He never taught me trip planning nor backing into docks or at truck stops. He is a owner operator, and can make decisions like refusing loads. We sat 12 days, and 6 days straight. He turned Down 5 loads during the time of those 6 days we sat at a truck stop. I reported him, and they had me go to a terminal by taking greyhound. I spent over $500 just in taxi and greyhound services while in the company. Once I got to the terminal; the safety trainer had me test drive a truck. I come to a traffic light where I had to make a right hand turn. The light turned yellow after I rolled over the stop line. It turned red as I made into the turn. It was a really short right hand turn light. The guy failed and reported me for passing a red light. The company ultimately fired me. Everyone I discussed this to all agreed it was a bogus call. Now I am home after 5 months of insufficient income and $8000 more in debt. Do I regret what I did from the moment of enrolling into the program? No! I wouldn’t have known if I hadn’t tried what OTR is about. The companies and their broken systems are what make the job harder than anything else in the industry. One thing to take from this since you’ve read this far; is that you make sure not to end up in a owner operator’s truck!!!
Hunter Hudgins holy that is terrible man, what you should do is start of by driving a dump truck or rolloff were ever you live at, that is way better than working for those big company’s. And once you meet people in the business or what you want to do. Get yourself a truck.
I actually did the same thing Hunter, in CDL school I was driving an old International with a 9 speed.. I accidentally left the splitter up and went from 1st to 6th without stalling, it lugged a little bit but it still took the gear somehow. Still don't know how I did it.
It is a completely different story, when it comes to driving an 18 wheeler. Do not upshift and skip gears. It will shake like crazy and stall! Think about your truck’s health. Good on you for trying to learn floating gears by watching UA-cam videos.
The only time I double clutched was 18 years ago on my drivers road test to get my licence... As soon as I got my licence, I havent used the clutch to shift since. Been floating for 18 years now lol. 10,13,15 and 18 speeds...I don't see the need to double clutch at all
I have to go on a steep incline bridge to and from my stops tomorrow. I get the concept but still end up grinding gears. I got lucky today and took it in tenth somehow can’t say I’ll have much luck tomorrow. Do you have any general advice. Your video was real helpful with the rpms and all thank you
Mistrkevin your welcome man, and the best advice I can give you when going up a incline is when you need to downshift to get more power, shift quickly or the gear won’t go in, if you take a while to shift then go 2 gears down.
I drive for a dump company and I’m being trained when I float from 2nd-4th I don’t grind gears but when I’m getting ready to go into 5th I can’t seem to get it into gear which is nerve wrecking. Should I apply light pressure on stick while simultaneously letting go of throttle to disengage from 4th gear into 5th gear?
Help me out here. When downshifting, is it ok to press the brake? I know downshifting is supposed to help not to overuse the brake, but are we allowed to use the brake to make the Truck slower enough to get the next lower gear ready? Appreciate any feedback
Awesome video. Would love to see pedal views during cold starts too on all of your trucks. Been a subscriber for a while now and your channel never disappoints!
Gearhead i have been waiting for a cold day to do one, but with this weather in houston i dont have to do nothing and truck will start right up. Im hoping december we get some cold days so i can do some throttle work to fire it up.
I'm studying for my cdl and I really want to drive a dump truck or roll off do they hire people with no otr or driving experience? I don't want to go to a trucking school either
@@Grtruckingdemolitionllc the dairy plant where I used to work had this Peterbilt with an Eaton Fuller 10-speed, I learned how to drive stick-shift in it.
The 9 speed and up eatons uses whats called a "dual/double pattern". The trans has a splitter box built directly on the back of the trans thats air powered. For the 10 speed, gears 1&6 share the same gate, along with 2&7 on a gate, 3&8 on a gate, 4&9 on a gate, and 5&10 on a gate. When driving and shifting through every gear, you will shift 1-5 like your normal H pattern transmission. Before you shift from 5 to 6, you switch it to high range (this is that switch you see this guy flip on the shifter knob). After that switch is flipped, youll move the shifter over to the 1st gear gate and you'll be in 6th gear, because now youre in high range. After that, you will shift through the gears like a normal manual, keeping the trans in high range. To downshift, just reverse it. Bring it down to 6th gear (the 1st gear gate in low range) and switch the splitter back to low before down shifting from 6 to 5 (going from the 1st gear gate to the 5th gear gate)
Brandon iG just means, you are either shifting to early or to late, all trucks are different, on my dads kenworth i have to wait a extra second to shift or i will grind, try to do it. But this time when you upshift try to go onto the next gear quickly and let it grind till it goes in, just see how much rpm had to drop for it to go in smothly
Shit if only we could do this during the test instead of doing that double clutch bullshit. What’s getting me is downshifting using the double clutch method. And my test is literally coming up this week. I’m about ready to pull my hair out!
J A if you are Referring to skiping gears when upshifting you can, i most of the time take off in 4th and skip every other gear, when im empty i can also take off from 5th go to 7th/9th/10th gear. And if you ment to skip gears while going up a hill depends how steep, i would recommend to not skip gears while going up a hill thou.
J A J A for example when downshifting if i am in 8th gear i let the rpm get to 800 then i raise my rpm to 1500 goes smoothly in to 6th gear. To upshift or downshit on this truck just need to let 400rpm drop or rev it up, and to skip gears i just double the rpm, so 800 to skip a gear or rev it up 800rpm to drop 2 gears.
This is bullshit. Doubling up (skipping gears upshifting) doesn't work. If you're only going 25mph (7th gear) and try to double up to 9th, you're not going fast enough for 9th gear and the truck will shake and feel rough. Otherwise you will have to go very high on the rpms in 7th to get the speed high enough to double up. Not good for the engine or fuel. You can double down (skipping gears downshifting) as long as you slow the truck to the proper mph for the gear you want to grab. In that case, you have to tap the clutch while you brake when you drop about 20-25 mph. If you don't tap the clutch you will feel the trans start to shake like it does if you try to double up.
This is exactly how synchronizers get destroyed. Clutch was built for a reason, it should be used all the time. If you want to drive like this, buy an automatic. There are a lot American truckers need to learn from the rest of the world.
Welli DS cars and trucks have synchronizers, tractor trailers don’t. Americans don’t need to clutch twice per shift every few seconds to get to tenth gear and back down
Welli DS it’s a Fuller gearbox, it’s basically designed to be used without a clutch (exception made for when you start moving and when you come to a stop)
@@carsnmods1687 You are correct, I know nothing about trucks, But I have two of them. Back in the 80s my father overseas had two Saab-Scanias with 600 HP engines, back then, the 10 Speed ZF transmission was fully synchronized.
@@WelliDS there is probably good reason why back then they had synchros and greater reason that the US doesn't have those trucks. I am speaking of the trucks here.
I have a video with a more detailed description on how to upshift and downshift without the clutch, check it out and let me know if it helped you guys out, LINK: ua-cam.com/video/VfZYn9PlWY8/v-deo.html
Disregard my questions. Very nice video. Great teaching without a whole lot of talking. The engine talks/teaches enough. Ty.
krysta thank you.
I just got my cdl so I’m trying to float my gears now 😭 this guy is easy breezy with it!
You will get it down. Once you start getting the feel for it will be a peace of cake 👍🏼
Hell if u can't find it grind it that's what my dad always said lol
Grind it till it fits, I say
Be nice to the damn thing😂
These comments made my night 😅😎
This dude is nice with it. I wanna be skilled like this.
Dragoness Nat i still have lots to learn my self, this video was from when I had recently bought my truck. Now I’m a bit better at it lol
Lol I'm sure you're going to be A1 just based on this video. You would have a ball watching me struggle through my gears 😂
Its 2020 it's automatic time with smooth steering better check the mack pinnacle out best truck I'm driving a dump truck easy money
Practice is key my friend. The more you do it, the better you get at it.
@@thekodiak77 lol just finished a 200 mi run in a 10 speed daycab and I'm about to bobtail back thru the backroads. I'm on it! 😁😝🤘🏼
I actually skipped gears during my school, while turning onto a main road. I jumped 4-6 without stalling, and my school instructor’s head went spinning. We were both saying *did that really just happen*.
Hunter Hudgins I bet, the truck I have got converted into a dump truck so it’s pretty light no problem when I skip gears, but don’t normally do it, i can also take off in 5th gear and it’s fine. This truck i only use it on weekends to sell material when people want small amounts, couple of yards.
Update... I obtained my CDL A license since I made the comment. I got hired on by CRST. I went through 6 weeks with my trainer. He never taught me trip planning nor backing into docks or at truck stops. He is a owner operator, and can make decisions like refusing loads. We sat 12 days, and 6 days straight. He turned Down 5 loads during the time of those 6 days we sat at a truck stop. I reported him, and they had me go to a terminal by taking greyhound. I spent over $500 just in taxi and greyhound services while in the company. Once I got to the terminal; the safety trainer had me test drive a truck. I come to a traffic light where I had to make a right hand turn. The light turned yellow after I rolled over the stop line. It turned red as I made into the turn. It was a really short right hand turn light. The guy failed and reported me for passing a red light. The company ultimately fired me. Everyone I discussed this to all agreed it was a bogus call. Now I am home after 5 months of insufficient income and $8000 more in debt. Do I regret what I did from the moment of enrolling into the program? No! I wouldn’t have known if I hadn’t tried what OTR is about. The companies and their broken systems are what make the job harder than anything else in the industry. One thing to take from this since you’ve read this far; is that you make sure not to end up in a owner operator’s truck!!!
Hunter Hudgins holy that is terrible man, what you should do is start of by driving a dump truck or rolloff were ever you live at, that is way better than working for those big company’s. And once you meet people in the business or what you want to do. Get yourself a truck.
I actually did the same thing Hunter, in CDL school I was driving an old International with a 9 speed.. I accidentally left the splitter up and went from 1st to 6th without stalling, it lugged a little bit but it still took the gear somehow. Still don't know how I did it.
@@hunterhudgins4473 thanks for sharing
My mind is absolutely blown that you can do this in trucks! I now see why I used to call them "my friends" when I was 5.
Oooh the ole 4 6 8 10. Like that!
It is a completely different story, when it comes to driving an 18 wheeler. Do not upshift and skip gears. It will shake like crazy and stall! Think about your truck’s health. Good on you for trying to learn floating gears by watching UA-cam videos.
Hunter Hudgins I know that, I have a Kenworth t800, pull a end dump and lowboy trailer. You can see videos of it on my channel.
ua-cam.com/video/eBHc1lz0zbI/v-deo.html
Like the different views (shifter view, pedal view, and gauge view) used to show you upshifting and downshifting.
Thanks for your video, this is what I was looking for, both the shift lever and the foot. You have a new subscriber
The only time I double clutched was 18 years ago on my drivers road test to get my licence... As soon as I got my licence, I havent used the clutch to shift since. Been floating for 18 years now lol. 10,13,15 and 18 speeds...I don't see the need to double clutch at all
I have to go on a steep incline bridge to and from my stops tomorrow. I get the concept but still end up grinding gears. I got lucky today and took it in tenth somehow can’t say I’ll have much luck tomorrow. Do you have any general advice. Your video was real helpful with the rpms and all thank you
Mistrkevin your welcome man, and the best advice I can give you when going up a incline is when you need to downshift to get more power, shift quickly or the gear won’t go in, if you take a while to shift then go 2 gears down.
Shift more quickly on incline as your rpm will drop fast.
Can u do a pedel view for downshift
I drive for a dump company and I’m being trained when I float from 2nd-4th I don’t grind gears but when I’m getting ready to go into 5th I can’t seem to get it into gear which is nerve wrecking. Should I apply light pressure on stick while simultaneously letting go of throttle to disengage from 4th gear into 5th gear?
WOW Like a BOSS
Help me out here. When downshifting, is it ok to press the brake? I know downshifting is supposed to help not to overuse the brake, but are we allowed to use the brake to make the Truck slower enough to get the next lower gear ready? Appreciate any feedback
Yes definitely have to do that
Will skipping gears mess up your transmission in the long run?
That's some hardcore gear jammin'
Awesome video. Would love to see pedal views during cold starts too on all of your trucks. Been a subscriber for a while now and your channel never disappoints!
Gearhead i have been waiting for a cold day to do one, but with this weather in houston i dont have to do nothing and truck will start right up. Im hoping december we get some cold days so i can do some throttle work to fire it up.
Grtruckingdemolition can’t wait!!!!
Gearhead new video is up, got a cold start pedal clip view since you have been asking for one
This was super helpful
I’m new with shift sometimes when i put the gear it will pop out what should i do or is it dangerous to the transmission
I'm studying for my cdl and I really want to drive a dump truck or roll off do they hire people with no otr or driving experience? I don't want to go to a trucking school either
Yes normally smaller company’s will
Eaton Fuller transmissions are the best.
Agree
@@Grtruckingdemolitionllc the dairy plant where I used to work had this Peterbilt with an Eaton Fuller 10-speed, I learned how to drive stick-shift in it.
Just had my first road trip today
..struggled alot with downshifting. Watching this I see where I was going wrong
Hey! That's why I'm watching this. How have you progressed? Had my first drive today, and I can tell you my confidence has taken a bit of a hit lol
@@stevenorvis5515 trust me it gets better. Graduated, passed my state exam my first try. Now I am a solo OTR driver . I love it !
What are the gear patterns and how do you know when to use them?
You just get used to it and know, also you can feel the truck when it wants lower or higher gear
The 9 speed and up eatons uses whats called a "dual/double pattern". The trans has a splitter box built directly on the back of the trans thats air powered. For the 10 speed, gears 1&6 share the same gate, along with 2&7 on a gate, 3&8 on a gate, 4&9 on a gate, and 5&10 on a gate. When driving and shifting through every gear, you will shift 1-5 like your normal H pattern transmission. Before you shift from 5 to 6, you switch it to high range (this is that switch you see this guy flip on the shifter knob). After that switch is flipped, youll move the shifter over to the 1st gear gate and you'll be in 6th gear, because now youre in high range. After that, you will shift through the gears like a normal manual, keeping the trans in high range. To downshift, just reverse it. Bring it down to 6th gear (the 1st gear gate in low range) and switch the splitter back to low before down shifting from 6 to 5 (going from the 1st gear gate to the 5th gear gate)
What rpm are u at for both up and down shifting?
Robert Gray I recently uploaded a video showing the rpms, here is the link to it check it out, ua-cam.com/video/N9GgW9oD-ok/v-deo.html
@@Grtruckingdemolitionllc thx
Robert Gray your welcome hope that video helps you out
Robert Gray recently posted a new videos explaining the shifting process let me know if it helps ua-cam.com/video/VfZYn9PlWY8/v-deo.html
why does my 10 speed grind gears if i dont double clutch? im letting off gas like you, but if i try to float gears itll feel like grinding
Brandon iG just means, you are either shifting to early or to late, all trucks are different, on my dads kenworth i have to wait a extra second to shift or i will grind, try to do it. But this time when you upshift try to go onto the next gear quickly and let it grind till it goes in, just see how much rpm had to drop for it to go in smothly
What engine is it?
what this mean--‘When your up shifting where ever you take it out of gear let the rpm's drop 400 rpm then put it in the next gear‘?
Yes
what is 4,6,8,10 gear pattern?
Will that mess up the clutch?
No it won’t
Shit if only we could do this during the test instead of doing that double clutch bullshit. What’s getting me is downshifting using the double clutch method. And my test is literally coming up this week. I’m about ready to pull my hair out!
Finally got it down.
Solisjavier3 glad to hear that man, now it will be a piece of cake when you drive
Can you skip gears going up?
J A if you are Referring to skiping gears when upshifting you can, i most of the time take off in 4th and skip every other gear, when im empty i can also take off from 5th go to 7th/9th/10th gear. And if you ment to skip gears while going up a hill depends how steep, i would recommend to not skip gears while going up a hill thou.
@@Grtruckingdemolitionllc exactly what I was referring to, just wasnt sure if the rpms could be raised above 1500 and still go smoothly in the hole
J A J A for example when downshifting if i am in 8th gear i let the rpm get to 800 then i raise my rpm to 1500 goes smoothly in to 6th gear. To upshift or downshit on this truck just need to let 400rpm drop or rev it up, and to skip gears i just double the rpm, so 800 to skip a gear or rev it up 800rpm to drop 2 gears.
I need some explanation
u didn't video your foot when downshifting, i can do upshift, but downshift i dont know..
ryan meana here is another video were I show the pedal, check it out ua-cam.com/video/VfZYn9PlWY8/v-deo.html
4,6,8,10 is nice when your empty, but with 56.5 t.... no dice lol
me guto
the clutch ???
mhammed mohammad don’t use it only to take off and come to a stop
Bobtail
This is bullshit. Doubling up (skipping gears upshifting) doesn't work. If you're only going 25mph (7th gear) and try to double up to 9th, you're not going fast enough for 9th gear and the truck will shake and feel rough. Otherwise you will have to go very high on the rpms in 7th to get the speed high enough to double up. Not good for the engine or fuel. You can double down (skipping gears downshifting) as long as you slow the truck to the proper mph for the gear you want to grab. In that case, you have to tap the clutch while you brake when you drop about 20-25 mph. If you don't tap the clutch you will feel the trans start to shake like it does if you try to double up.
No seat belt
This is exactly how synchronizers get destroyed. Clutch was built for a reason, it should be used all the time. If you want to drive like this, buy an automatic.
There are a lot American truckers need to learn from the rest of the world.
Welli DS cars and trucks have synchronizers, tractor trailers don’t. Americans don’t need to clutch twice per shift every few seconds to get to tenth gear and back down
Welli DS it’s a Fuller gearbox, it’s basically designed to be used without a clutch (exception made for when you start moving and when you come to a stop)
You know nothing about semi trucks... You are the synchronizer tractor trailers have straight cut gears for strength and no synchros.
@@carsnmods1687 You are correct, I know nothing about trucks, But I have two of them.
Back in the 80s my father overseas had two Saab-Scanias with 600 HP engines, back then, the 10 Speed ZF transmission was fully synchronized.
@@WelliDS there is probably good reason why back then they had synchros and greater reason that the US doesn't have those trucks. I am speaking of the trucks here.