Belgian had 55 of these in the 1980's. i loved being a commander on it. what most analist forget to mention is that this weapon can operate on its own ! or manually with a 'handle' on, the turret to shoot at 'pop up ' targets (helicopters popping up behind tree lines. the handle was pointed on the target and a release of the handgrip would make the turret turn in less than 3 sec to its assigned target. a pedal was used to start shooting
@@Folker46590 Grow up, skip those antagonistic typo complaints. We live in a world where most people online use English as a non-native language, so poor grammar and typos are a part of life. When you see less than perfect English, think if the statement would make sense without the typo, and judge it based on that. If you actually don't get something try to be more friendly when asking, like Did you mean analysts, when you wrote analist?
The Gepard was primarily designed as an Anti-Aircraft Weapon, but the Gepard's Twin 35mm Autocannons can also be used against Ground Targets such as bunkers, light armored vehicles and infantry, just like the 20mm Autocannon (Flak 30 and Flak 38) the Germans used throughout WW2.
It was designed to fight attack helicopters and ground attack jets and it's outstanding that it is able to track much smaller drones, that normally don't even have an aluminium airframe. (i.e. create a far more faint radar return)
@@duartesimoes508any somewhat modern radar can be configured to detect targets of various sizes. Whilst being adjusted to look for larger targets at longer ranges smaller targets will not be clearly identifiable
The Motorola 68020 series microprocessor was used in the Macintosh II and Macintosh LC from 1987 to 1990. In case anybody needed context. You can do a surprising amount with very low-powered computing if you remove all the bloatware. The Hubble Space Telescope is still using a 25MHz Intel 486 microprocessor to process all that image and science data!
The 68020 was the Workstation power horse of the late 1980s when it came on the market (1984). Probably a later upgrade to the Gepard (if this is actually true). The series started with the compatible 68000 which came out in 1979.
genetics have nothing to do with it - but work ethics, education and society. Which is why the 2nd generation / the sons and daughters of the german immigrants know shit all in comparision to an average german engineer just dropping from an engineering colledge in germany. Trump is such a failure - he has german ancestors... and now look at him. You are proud of that? I guess 50% of you are. all german contributions to american way of life always have been sweeped under the rugs. Today they say it was kennedy bringing people on the moon, not von Braun who lobbied hard into kennedies ears to get his support to fulfill a vision, he already had in the 3rd reich. What would the manhatten project have become w/o oppenheimer, the destroyer of worlds. And the fact that TV and cars, diesel and jet - are all german inventions, is something most americans are blissfully unaware of. The majority of americans believe they invented all that shit. Giving honest credits its not an american trait.
The Ukrainians are using Maxim Machine guns to good effect, many manufactured 80 years ago. They were properly stored and some were clearly unfired. As long as you use that beast in a fixed position and have a good amount of water or snow nearby, it's a perfectly effective weapon. Its caliber is plentiful, the same as the PK.
I served as a Gun Mechanik on the Gepard. The construction of those guns is quite "simple", sturdy and servicable. It did not feel much more complicated then dissembling and assembling a G3. But one would need a crane to lift those guns. And every gamer, could work with the system in minutes. Almost point and click.
@@julonkrutor4649 you can’t get the rugged old version no more. The old is no longer produceable. Remember it is 50+ years old. That is quality that stood the test of time. I don’t care about specs, cost, I care the system is working. I do agree better the newer version, then nothing.
The Germans have a history of radar controlled anti aircraft systems. Already during WW2 they had developed a system for use against allied planes bombing German cities which was highly effective.
@@digitalisman3267 Sorry, but I can't help here. I heard about this German anti aircraft radar targeting system years ago from a couple of old Germans who had manned these guns during the war. They told me that they had used a highly advanced (for the time) targeting system that told them where to aim ahead of the enemy planes to hit them. They didn't call it radar, but the way they described it, it worked the same way. It determined the speed and altitude of the plane and the angle and direction to aim the guns.
@@digitalisman3267 During World War II, the Germans used an advanced air defense system called the "Würzburg Radar." This system was a key element in German air defense strategy, utilized for detecting and tracking enemy aircraft. It played a significant role in night fighting and in directing anti-aircraft artillery. The Würzburg Radar (called: Funk-Sende-Empfangsgerät FuSE 62 bzw. Funk-Messgerät FuMG 62; at the beginning also FMG 39; Flak-Messgerät) was a relatively compact system that could be mounted on a mobile trailer, making it flexible and easily relocatable. It featured a large, parabolic antenna that emitted electromagnetic waves and received signals reflected off aircraft. This technology allowed the Germans to detect and track enemy aircraft at distances up to 70 kilometers, which was impressive for that era. In addition to the Würzburg Radar, there were other German radar systems, such as the Freya radar, used for early warning. These systems together formed an effective network for air surveillance, posing significant challenges to the Allies.
@@digitalisman3267sure it was the Himmelbett system, developed by General Kammhuber. It was deployed from north to south and aka the Kammhuber line. However, it was a radar based air surveillance and interceptor controlling system and proved quite ineffective because it was easily overwhelmed. The Wehrmacht did not have anything like the Gepard.
@@digitalisman3267 Funkmessgerät (also Funk-Messgerät, short FuMG or FuG) was the name used by the German Wehrmacht before and during the Second World War for radio equipment and devices, which were used to locate aircraft or ships, to direct fire of the air and coastal artillery or to guide their own fighter aircraft. These can be divided into active radio measuring devices (in modern German radar devices) with transmitter and receiver part, later also as radio measuring device (FuMO). as well as passive devices, which only received and did not transmit signals. The latter were also called radio measurement observation devices (FuMB), today they would be called radar warning devices.
I think it’s appeared outdated because with its integrated active radar, it’s extremely vulnerable to anti-radar missiles like HARM. But it now gets a second life because it’s perfect against cheap kamikaze drones.
The system also has its advantages. With three tanks you need three HARMs. With an anti-aircraft system with a centralized radar unit you only need one.
And the Guepard can fire both cannons simultaneously, unlike some systems in which you can only fire half of your barrels while the other half cools off. That's notable.
It's nothing to do with technology standing the test of time. Gepard was designed to deal with helicopters and low flying aircraft coming in for close air support, as technology developed and weapon ranges got further and further the Gepard became obsolete hence why it was phased out of service. The mass adoption of cheap drones in a conflict made it relevant again as a cheap solution to shoot slow flying drones at close ranges.
Germany phased it out to save a lot of money and because at the time it was unimaginable that NATO would not have air sovereignty. You're not wrong but I wouldn't say it became entirely obsolete, even without drones
Unfortunately, contrary to what the video says, the German Bundeswehr has decommissioned the Gepard in 2012. This probably came from an expectation that in any future conflict, NATO will have air superiority if not supremacy, so there would be no need for the same level of force protection from air targets. Now, with the advent of cheap drones in the thousands on the battlefield, they may have to rethink this decision, as the Gepard appears to be uniquely suited to combat these kinds of threats. While we may not see the Gepard return to active service, they will probably have to introduce a newly developed system that has similar capabilities for combating drones and missiles.
Well, maybe it should. If it was retired I bet this had to do with the Defence budget and not effectiveness. But the Germans are waking up. It was about time.
you're right, army air defense got scrapped around 20 years ago, because of budget restraints. It is now being reestablished, with gun and missile systems, the gun system being the Skyranger und a boxer chassis
Magnífica tecnología alemana, como siempre marca d calidad, muy pero muy útil en estos días en Ucrania ante la criminal invasión rusa y esa modalidad letal bastante nueva, los drones.
It's sad that no one talks about the many other use cases the Gepard is great for. Not just that a Gepard is very decorative in your yard and can hold lots of beautiful flowers, it also solves many problems of suburban life at once. The annoying starlings hitting your favorite tree? Gepard. The fat and stupid neighbors kid got a drone and observes you and your family on weekends? Gepard. The teenager gang in your neighborhood has way to loud mopeds or quads? You might guess it, just Gepard it. Also you have many edges to open beer bottles. In general I can say no other tool solves that many problems with a single brrrrp. Gepard. Trusted peace for suburban dad's since 1968.
Mantis has only just been given away. They wanted to buy skyranger 30 on Boxer and possibly lynx. Gepard was just cooler, but I think that works too. 🤔
The fact that i'm still using a Motorola 68k Processor in an embedded project in 2024 feels much better after seeing this. He realy made it sound cool when in reality, while it was ahead of its time back in the 80s, now its not its time anymore. But never change a running system, i guess.
yap we gave them already one skynex system for shahed mopeds but our chief in command ; hr dhould deliver moore skynex trucks and our bunkerbuster like france london already gave their storm shadows...
I think the thought was that missiles were better solution in terms of range of engagement ( both radius and altitude) Perhaps the ability of the Gepard to train quick enough to track and engage fast moving targets was in question as well. That’s not a limitation when engaging slow moving drones though .
Also, it was meant to defend against Helikopters and low flying jets. But since the range of weapons, those can carry the effectiveness if the gepard shrunk. So if an attack helicopter can fire at a range of 20km and the gepard has a range of 15km, then its pointless... but the didn't think about slow flying cheap drones.
As these drones become more and more popular, the Bundeswehr might get some anti aircraft guns back in duty. As the exploding shells will kill any of those drones with the splinters very fast, and the amuntion is quity cheap in contrast to rockets.
In the new age of drone warfare, I feel like vehicles like these would be a cheaper and more efficient option then missiles. Especially if their is a swarm of drones
there is the Oerlikon Skyranger 35 from Rheinmetall. Also 35 mm anti-aircraft gun (Same gun like the Gepard?). But the ammunition explodes before the target and leaves shrapnel (like a shotgun) to effectively destroying small drones. Didnt look rly expensive :) Mounted on a Boxer (8x8 wheel).
It's true that they were used by my country The Netherlands. But unfortenately the last ones were sold and delivered to the Jordanian airforce in 2016. I'm wondering if my gouvernement regrets that decission right now. It proves to be still a phenominal weapon system..
It is perfect versus drones and nibble enough to be on the move if it risks getting spotted. I think radars like this and similar guns on the side of a Cv90 AA version (LvKv 90) turret might be valid upgrades for the Swedish Army. It is mobile AA but lacks power versus drones in comparison, and the war in Ukraine shows holw important it is to defend versus pesky drones.
Odd, the published data has 15km max range and 3600 km/hr. My question is more about acquisition on horizon. I should have predicted sad bot responses. For example we see very sophisticated Russian SAM being destroyed because they cannot acquire and lock onto small and slow attacking devices. The Gepard is excellent at small and slow, but I’d like to hear from someone regarding a weapon coming in like Vihkr, at about 270 m/S head on (smaller radar cross section), at say 500 meters altitude. Does this give Gepard enough time on the horizon for the search radar to spot, then the track system to lock and destroy? A realistic guess is yes, 75% of the time, but hoping to hear from a former user and not a bot.
The Oerlikon towed twin canon has a very simular fire control system. Hit probability should be more than 75%, my austrian AA comrades were talking about 90%. Argentinien AA shot down two british Harrier during the falkland war. So yes, it's also effective against fast and low flying enemies, Btw 500m isn't low, 50m is... But: Radar has to be used. If the enemy uses anti radar missiles or other countermeasures, the effectiveness decreases.
You said they entered service in 1973, and then mentioned they contain a CPU designed in the 1980s. This is a non-sequitur. Please fill in the missing history about the upgrade packages that were made.
What happened to the Swiss AA system that was also supposed to be awesome? I think they had about 75 similar units that were going to be destroyed so they can remain neutral. Were they destroyed or did someone talk the Swiss into selling them?
@@Steamthrower1 Turkish #Bayraktar flying way too high for Gepard and would destroy German Gepard. ua-cam.com/video/UsFVGSET3I4/v-deo.htmlsi=iIK6wj07zMHe6nAF
Knowing nothing other than what I see here and my experience with German cars.. it’s likely an amazing feat of engineering and precision requiring pristine maintenance to operate effectively. Hope unlike German war machines of the past, it is not outdone by the sheer numbers of enemy combatants and its superiority will be enough serve Ukraine well.
How many km of range can the Gepard protect?? 10km? 20km? 30km? The area to be defended is so huge, I think they would need thousands of Gepard to cover the whole border with Russia..
no need to cover the whole border, thats what long range radar is for. you use gepard to keep POIs safe like bases, electrical, gas etc. it was never designed for airspace controll
If a Gepard is up and running in a convoy and Vihkr are fired from far away over the horizon what is the chance of stopping those missiles? I will guess very good as the missiles are not terrain hugging and are not stealth and are subsonic. Does anyone have solid information?
The Gepard will at most see the helicopter far outside its engagement range but definitely not the missile unless it is already very VERY close to the convoy. The missile is much too small and fast for the Gepard to intercept it effectively. Sure some cracked gunner might nick one through manual guidance but that's about it. Anything slow flying with a large surface area like a shahed drone or some larger slow flying cruise missiles could be shot down relatively effectively.
The published data seems to contradict; “Gepard can hit targets at altitudes up to 3 kilometers, flying at speeds up to 350-400 m / s; its firing range is up to 4 kilometers”. Note that Mach 1 at ISA is 310 m/s. A missile inbound shows its nose but dwells on the scan (like a baseball thrown at you), so simplifies lock).
@@richardkudrna7503 well the vikhr missile cruises at 600m/s(Mach 1.8). I'm not saying that I can't hit atgms.... It's just insanely unlikely. Either because it simply does not detect the missile or because it can hit it effectively. The missile does not fly in a perfectly straight line towards its target. It twists around its guidance giving lasers.
What I read is that the Vihkr peak velocity is 610 m/sec but average over 6 km is just 430 m/sec. The motor impulse is very strong initially to accelerate it then it goes to a sustain impulse to keep it supersonic out to about 7 km. I feel that if Aimed at the Gepard radar and if say detected at 3 km the Gepard has say 8 seconds before being hit. Let’s say it has 5 seconds to lock, track, fire. I’m still thinking yes, Gepard has a very good chance. I’d like to hear from a former operator.
That is precisely the reason why the USA wanted Germany in NATO at all costs, their outstanding engineers. - And that is also the reason why Ukraine belongs in NATO, because it had the best weapons engineers in the Soviet Union.👍
@@Markmockmack you not even bothered to look it up, do you? ... it became a german production (mostly), but it is a swiss development done by Oerlikon-Bührle / later Oerlikon Contraves ... if the project had chosen the german design offered the result would be fairly different, having for example just a 30mm gun among other things. Maybe you should start taking drugs, so that you have the energy to look things up before making silly comments.
I don't want to see more videos like this because I was expecting statistics on how many FPV-Drones, Shared-Drones, Missiles... were shut down with the Gepards. So why can no Shahed Drone pass the Gepards? How accurate are Gepards?
Very. Shaheds have a significant radar echo due to their size and propeller, and they are generally flying in a straight line. The Gepard gunner essentially just marks the drone on the search radar via joystick, then the turret swings over automatically, the tracking radar follows it, and the fire control computer usually has a firing solution within ~2 seconds. The gunner does not need to do anything more, the turret auto-tracks the drone, and then you step on the firing pedal. It's that simple, really. (Been a Gepard gunner in my army days)
Nothing special. We had a modified version, the PRTL, with the Philips radar. They are designed to follow the NATO armour and protect them from low flying attack aircraft. It s largely a stand alone automised system. The Dutch PRTL were sold to Jordan’s and now bought back and will be delivered to Ukraine
New fire control systsms, optics, radars, add missiles and the ability to passively observe and affect the battlefield and you have yourself a pantsir. More nations need something like the pantsir.
rear front of turret doesn't make sense.... can't compute error error error.... i'm dead. You can't also traverse 60 degree angle upward and only be able to clear and object max height of 1.15 meters. Math isn't correct. Error error error. Massive error in your height depictions.
for infrastructure? not really, there are a couple of CIWS in existence which are far superior and would be much more useful for that job, like the US Centurion C-RAM or the German/Swiss Mantis/Skyshield ... thats the stuff Ukraine actually needs for its infrastructure. the Gepard only is considered the solution because its available, unlike the rare and more expensive CIWS ... technicly the Gepard is more suited for frontline service, protecting the defense lines, artillery and assault units from loitering munition and surveillance/attack drones. Using them to protect infrastructure and inland cities is wasting the Gepards potential, but ofc Ukraine simply got no better options as NATO cant get its arse up to support them properly with modern weapons.
Never I understood the political decission to put this system out of order. :( Counteractive measures are possible, if rocktes like Stingers are on the way, but useless if 35mm projects are on the way!
the decision to phase them out was fairly rational, they simply were old and reached their end of life. The dumb decision was to not replace them with the modern skyhield systems, maintaining the direct fire air defense capability of the Heer. But you cant pin that on politicians tbh, that nonsense to restructure the airdefense, completely switch to missile defesne and make it a pure Luftwaffe task came from the Bundeswehr itself ... german politicians relied on what the Bundeswehr told them, if our military were led by people with brain they would have insisted upon maintaining that capability and never would have given the option to restructure our airdefense into oblivion. As much power as politicians have in Germany, they still only chose between the options given by military experts and lobbyists ... the nonsense to retire direct fire AA should never have been an option put on the table of ministers by our military.
I can understand why some people call this thing, a robot or remote-controlled tank, slap in a targeting VI on your gold, but some one they are shooting down WW II style kamikaze pilots,
And what about missiles with Mach 1 and higher? Gepard can shoot down slowly drones, yes but what about other stuff. while everybody just talks about gepard and drones i think my question got already answered.
thats not what its made for, the gepard is the last line of defence, CQB air defence if you want. For missiles you have other systems like patriot or IRIS-T
Die Ukraine hat ja auch so viele davon, dass man mit ihnen den gesamten Luftraum kontrollieren kann. Nein, hat sie nicht. Wissen ist Macht und Du hast weder vom Einen noch vom Anderen.
The premise is laughable - Gepard is not a weapon against (Irainian, btw) Shaheds. Shaheds cover distances on the order of 1000 km, at an altitude of about 50-100 meters. The probability of a Shahed ever flying into one of the handful of Gepards is laughably low. To protect a large area against Shaheds, you need a large number of cheap machine guns; not a fancy radar-controlled turret inexplicably placed onto a tank chassis (seriously wtf - I could MAYBE understand the armor, but what's up with the fucking tracks?). Also, the other radar - the spinning one, - offers almost zero utility against low-flying Shaheds, as its radio horizon will be virtually the same as visual horizon.
oh right, shaheds can fly 1000km, so we must have SHORAD along the entire line!!! Or, we could place one or others near high risk strategic sites and the shaheds will go straight over them, clever right? It's on a Leopard chassiss as it's fast and reliable. They don't use tyres and use tracks instead as that means it can follow armoured assaults and of course be all terrain. you seem like one of those people that talk for days but don't know what they're talking about.
I as a German think this valueble highly specific Weaponsystem had nothing to do on green troops in Ukraine barely trained for six weeks on the systems! German sondiert were drilled for nearly a year to get full status permission on these systems ! Now Russian Forces had a chance to inspect those GepstdscanscLeopards cause poorly trained troops withdraw and fled and abandoned from those Chassis and ran ! 🤦🏻♂️ IMPOV one of the biggest severe mistakes of NATO-Strategic-Command ❗
Belgian had 55 of these in the 1980's. i loved being a commander on it. what most analist forget to mention is that this weapon can operate on its own ! or manually with a 'handle' on, the turret to shoot at 'pop up ' targets (helicopters popping up behind tree lines. the handle was pointed on the target and a release of the handgrip would make the turret turn in less than 3 sec to its assigned target. a pedal was used to start shooting
And we sold them off at scrap value ...
analist? What's that?
@@Folker46590 Grow up, skip those antagonistic typo complaints. We live in a world where most people online use English as a non-native language, so poor grammar and typos are a part of life. When you see less than perfect English, think if the statement would make sense without the typo, and judge it based on that. If you actually don't get something try to be more friendly when asking, like Did you mean analysts, when you wrote analist?
thank you my man, i always think the same i read this learn English blablabla Comments @@ipadista
I am ranger captain for Marder and we could sleep knowing the Gepards were watching over us.
The Gepard was primarily designed as an Anti-Aircraft Weapon, but the Gepard's Twin 35mm Autocannons can also be used against Ground Targets such as bunkers, light armored vehicles and infantry, just like the 20mm Autocannon (Flak 30 and Flak 38) the Germans used throughout WW2.
An anti-drone weapon that was designed long before drones were even thought of....
It was designed to fight attack helicopters and ground attack jets and it's outstanding that it is able to track much smaller drones, that normally don't even have an aluminium airframe. (i.e. create a far more faint radar return)
@@duartesimoes508any somewhat modern radar can be configured to detect targets of various sizes. Whilst being adjusted to look for larger targets at longer ranges smaller targets will not be clearly identifiable
The Motorola 68020 series microprocessor was used in the Macintosh II and Macintosh LC from 1987 to 1990. In case anybody needed context. You can do a surprising amount with very low-powered computing if you remove all the bloatware. The Hubble Space Telescope is still using a 25MHz Intel 486 microprocessor to process all that image and science data!
The 68020 was the Workstation power horse of the late 1980s when it came on the market (1984). Probably a later upgrade to the Gepard (if this is actually true). The series started with the compatible 68000 which came out in 1979.
@@silence8806 As it happens, I've got a Macintosh Plus with the 68000 on my retro bench!
They managed to land on the moon with processor power below that of a 6510 (aka C64)
And the Amiga 1200 😃
I had more power in my A1200 than Gepard with extention card and 68040 processor on it :P @@andy9841
What a beast! German engineering is awesome. Many of the US's best scientists and engineers are of German descent--something we're very proud of.
GERMANY IS JUST ANOTHER MUSLIM EURASIAN COUNTRY
genetics have nothing to do with it - but work ethics, education and society. Which is why the 2nd generation / the sons and daughters of the german immigrants know shit all in comparision to an average german engineer just dropping from an engineering colledge in germany.
Trump is such a failure - he has german ancestors... and now look at him. You are proud of that? I guess 50% of you are.
all german contributions to american way of life always have been sweeped under the rugs.
Today they say it was kennedy bringing people on the moon, not von Braun who lobbied hard into kennedies ears
to get his support to fulfill a vision, he already had in the 3rd reich.
What would the manhatten project have become w/o oppenheimer, the destroyer of worlds.
And the fact that TV and cars, diesel and jet - are all german inventions, is something most americans are blissfully unaware of.
The majority of americans believe they invented all that shit. Giving honest credits its not an american trait.
@@dp7933hun?
ehh, Paperclip scientists? Former nazi's? Proud 😮
@@dp7933 💀
The Gepard is older tech, but still effective.
The Ukrainians are using Maxim Machine guns to good effect, many manufactured 80 years ago. They were properly stored and some were clearly unfired. As long as you use that beast in a fixed position and have a good amount of water or snow nearby, it's a perfectly effective weapon. Its caliber is plentiful, the same as the PK.
I served as a Gun Mechanik on the Gepard. The construction of those guns is quite "simple", sturdy and servicable. It did not feel much more complicated then dissembling and assembling a G3. But one would need a crane to lift those guns. And every gamer, could work with the system in minutes. Almost point and click.
I don’t want to fight without a Gepard protecting me.
I take the modern version then ^^
@@julonkrutor4649 you can’t get the rugged old version no more. The old is no longer produceable. Remember it is 50+ years old. That is quality that stood the test of time. I don’t care about specs, cost, I care the system is working. I do agree better the newer version, then nothing.
The Germans have a history of radar controlled anti aircraft systems. Already during WW2 they had developed a system for use against allied planes bombing German cities which was highly effective.
Do you happen to know the name of such system? It's the first time I've heard about something like that.
@@digitalisman3267 Sorry, but I can't help here. I heard about this German anti aircraft radar targeting system years ago from a couple of old Germans who had manned these guns during the war.
They told me that they had used a highly advanced (for the time) targeting system that told them where to aim ahead of the enemy planes to hit them.
They didn't call it radar, but the way they described it, it worked the same way. It determined the speed and altitude of the plane and the angle and direction to aim the guns.
@@digitalisman3267 During World War II, the Germans used an advanced air defense system called the "Würzburg Radar." This system was a key element in German air defense strategy, utilized for detecting and tracking enemy aircraft. It played a significant role in night fighting and in directing anti-aircraft artillery.
The Würzburg Radar (called: Funk-Sende-Empfangsgerät FuSE 62 bzw. Funk-Messgerät FuMG 62; at the beginning also FMG 39; Flak-Messgerät) was a relatively compact system that could be mounted on a mobile trailer, making it flexible and easily relocatable. It featured a large, parabolic antenna that emitted electromagnetic waves and received signals reflected off aircraft. This technology allowed the Germans to detect and track enemy aircraft at distances up to 70 kilometers, which was impressive for that era.
In addition to the Würzburg Radar, there were other German radar systems, such as the Freya radar, used for early warning. These systems together formed an effective network for air surveillance, posing significant challenges to the Allies.
@@digitalisman3267sure it was the Himmelbett system, developed by General Kammhuber. It was deployed from north to south and aka the Kammhuber line. However, it was a radar based air surveillance and interceptor controlling system and proved quite ineffective because it was easily overwhelmed. The Wehrmacht did not have anything like the Gepard.
@@digitalisman3267 Funkmessgerät (also Funk-Messgerät, short FuMG or FuG) was the name used by the German Wehrmacht before and during the Second World War for radio equipment and devices, which were used to locate aircraft or ships, to direct fire of the air and coastal artillery or to guide their own fighter aircraft. These can be divided into active radio measuring devices (in modern German radar devices) with transmitter and receiver part, later also as radio measuring device (FuMO). as well as passive devices, which only received and did not transmit signals. The latter were also called radio measurement observation devices (FuMB), today they would be called radar warning devices.
I think it’s appeared outdated because with its integrated active radar, it’s extremely vulnerable to anti-radar missiles like HARM. But it now gets a second life because it’s perfect against cheap kamikaze drones.
The system also has its advantages. With three tanks you need three HARMs. With an anti-aircraft system with a centralized radar unit you only need one.
vulnerable to HARM's? Since when do russia operate HARM?
Twin 35 mm cannon, not even matched now by most cannon armed AFV's.
Thank you for giving it justice. Even with its problems it still gives up a fight in modern time. A masterpiece.
And the Guepard can fire both cannons simultaneously, unlike some systems in which you can only fire half of your barrels while the other half cools off. That's notable.
It's nothing to do with technology standing the test of time. Gepard was designed to deal with helicopters and low flying aircraft coming in for close air support, as technology developed and weapon ranges got further and further the Gepard became obsolete hence why it was phased out of service. The mass adoption of cheap drones in a conflict made it relevant again as a cheap solution to shoot slow flying drones at close ranges.
Thank you for a constructive comment. Rarely seen these days.
Very well said!
Germany phased it out to save a lot of money and because at the time it was unimaginable that NATO would not have air sovereignty. You're not wrong but I wouldn't say it became entirely obsolete, even without drones
In fact, most languages use the word "gepard" (with local variations) for "cheetah", with the exception of former English colonies.
The trick is not getting it to lock onto birds, the trick is getting it to NOT lock onto birds. You don't want to waste ammo on seagulls.
you wouldn t say that after a seagulls stole your sandwitch in a careless moment :-)
@@keto3883 True.
who ever animated the radar really didnt feel like working that day lmfao
Actually the Gepard is not in service in germany since 2010.
Big guns never go out of fashion.
Unfortunately, contrary to what the video says, the German Bundeswehr has decommissioned the Gepard in 2012. This probably came from an expectation that in any future conflict, NATO will have air superiority if not supremacy, so there would be no need for the same level of force protection from air targets. Now, with the advent of cheap drones in the thousands on the battlefield, they may have to rethink this decision, as the Gepard appears to be uniquely suited to combat these kinds of threats. While we may not see the Gepard return to active service, they will probably have to introduce a newly developed system that has similar capabilities for combating drones and missiles.
i think its more a case of the german military having appalling funding and disastrous readiness levels meaning they have to decommission things
Amazing machine 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻can’t beat German engineering
Well, it is not used anymore in the German military, more than 20 years.
Well, maybe it should. If it was retired I bet this had to do with the Defence budget and not effectiveness. But the Germans are waking up. It was about time.
@@duartesimoes508 was a budget issue
As always...
Now with Clitorius everything is clearly improving.
you're right, army air defense got scrapped around 20 years ago, because of budget restraints. It is now being reestablished, with gun and missile systems, the gun system being the Skyranger und a boxer chassis
Magnífica tecnología alemana, como siempre marca d calidad, muy pero muy útil en estos días en Ucrania ante la criminal invasión rusa y esa modalidad letal bastante nueva, los drones.
It's sad that no one talks about the many other use cases the Gepard is great for.
Not just that a Gepard is very decorative in your yard and can hold lots of beautiful flowers, it also solves many problems of suburban life at once.
The annoying starlings hitting your favorite tree? Gepard. The fat and stupid neighbors kid got a drone and observes you and your family on weekends? Gepard. The teenager gang in your neighborhood has way to loud mopeds or quads? You might guess it, just Gepard it. Also you have many edges to open beer bottles. In general I can say no other tool solves that many problems with a single brrrrp.
Gepard. Trusted peace for suburban dad's since 1968.
thank you for this comment
:))great!
Nice machine. Bet soldiers sleep well under her umbrella. Damn shame she needed to come out and play. But here we are, and there she is.
Can the radar of the Gepard track small objects like consumer drones?
Yes
awesome Piece of German Engineering. I think Germany should build a 2.0 Version. I don like the Mantis in her actual Form as Replacement...
Mantis has only just been given away. They wanted to buy skyranger 30 on Boxer and possibly lynx. Gepard was just cooler, but I think that works too. 🤔
The fact that i'm still using a Motorola 68k Processor in an embedded project in 2024 feels much better after seeing this.
He realy made it sound cool when in reality, while it was ahead of its time back in the 80s, now its not its time anymore.
But never change a running system, i guess.
if it aint broke dont fix it
Germany does´t have the gepard in service anymore. It will be replaced by skynex, which is also really cool.
yap we gave them already one skynex system for shahed mopeds but our chief in command ; hr dhould deliver moore skynex trucks and our bunkerbuster like france london already gave their storm shadows...
I will never unterstand why they phased this great piece of equipment out of active service
I think the thought was that missiles were better solution in terms of range of engagement ( both radius and altitude) Perhaps the ability of the Gepard to train quick enough to track and engage fast moving targets was in question as well. That’s not a limitation when engaging slow moving drones though .
Also, it was meant to defend against Helikopters and low flying jets. But since the range of weapons, those can carry the effectiveness if the gepard shrunk. So if an attack helicopter can fire at a range of 20km and the gepard has a range of 15km, then its pointless... but the didn't think about slow flying cheap drones.
As these drones become more and more popular, the Bundeswehr might get some anti aircraft guns back in duty. As the exploding shells will kill any of those drones with the splinters very fast, and the amuntion is quity cheap in contrast to rockets.
They do now, they are going to get the Skyranger 30 on the GTK Boxer for this purpose.
The system was upgraded.
In the new age of drone warfare, I feel like vehicles like these would be a cheaper and more efficient option then missiles. Especially if their is a swarm of drones
Exactly my - though uniformed - opinion.
there is the Oerlikon Skyranger 35 from Rheinmetall. Also 35 mm anti-aircraft gun (Same gun like the Gepard?). But the ammunition explodes before the target and leaves shrapnel (like a shotgun) to effectively destroying small drones. Didnt look rly expensive :) Mounted on a Boxer (8x8 wheel).
It's true that they were used by my country The Netherlands. But unfortenately the last ones were sold and delivered to the Jordanian airforce in 2016. I'm wondering if my gouvernement regrets that decission right now. It proves to be still a phenominal weapon system..
It probably makes more sense to buy skyrangers than trying to keep an old out of production system in shape. Wouldnt be cost effective.
That really has a creepy look for some reason more menacing than a tank.
Youuu caan not paassss!
Far ahead of it's time...
where is the explanation why it so effective vs shaded ?
it has high quality tracking for low flying targets and the autocannons saturate the area making it more effective against shahed and other targets.
Masterpiece
Hehe, it runs on the same chip as an Amiga 1200.
Machtige machine.👌 6:13
It is good for short range distance. It is very good for this purpose.
It is perfect versus drones and nibble enough to be on the move if it risks getting spotted. I think radars like this and similar guns on the side of a Cv90 AA version (LvKv 90) turret might be valid upgrades for the Swedish Army.
It is mobile AA but lacks power versus drones in comparison, and the war in Ukraine shows holw important it is to defend versus pesky drones.
Odd, the published data has 15km max range and 3600 km/hr. My question is more about acquisition on horizon. I should have predicted sad bot responses. For example we see very sophisticated Russian SAM being destroyed because they cannot acquire and lock onto small and slow attacking devices. The Gepard is excellent at small and slow, but I’d like to hear from someone regarding a weapon coming in like Vihkr, at about 270 m/S head on (smaller radar cross section), at say 500 meters altitude. Does this give Gepard enough time on the horizon for the search radar to spot, then the track system to lock and destroy? A realistic guess is yes, 75% of the time, but hoping to hear from a former user and not a bot.
The Oerlikon towed twin canon has a very simular fire control system. Hit probability should be more than 75%, my austrian AA comrades were talking about 90%. Argentinien AA shot down two british Harrier during the falkland war. So yes, it's also effective against fast and low flying enemies, Btw 500m isn't low, 50m is...
But: Radar has to be used. If the enemy uses anti radar missiles or other countermeasures, the effectiveness decreases.
Usually the Gepards are warned ahead by other long range radars that something is incoming, so they have time to prepare.
It can lock on to birds... but thats not good for the birds.. the radar is really messing them up.
the tracking radar can literally roast birds... there is a reason why you should never stand in the direction of beam when it is operating.
Looks Badass 🇩🇪🦁
At 2:13 its a Leopard 2 Chassis!
You said they entered service in 1973, and then mentioned they contain a CPU designed in the 1980s. This is a non-sequitur. Please fill in the missing history about the upgrade packages that were made.
What happened to the Swiss AA system that was also supposed to be awesome? I think they had about 75 similar units that were going to be destroyed so they can remain neutral. Were they destroyed or did someone talk the Swiss into selling them?
Well is the same system
@@jantschierschky3461 yeah, I thought it might be.
Those were not Gepards I forgot the systems name
@@DOI_ARTS different name, same system
I think the cannons are from Switzerland.
Only effective against low flying targets.
you mean it CAN'T shoot down satellites???!?!?!
@@Steamthrower1 Turkish #Bayraktar flying way too high for Gepard and would destroy German Gepard.
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the problem is that cheetahs are solitary....
bazed
Amazing against drones and air targets but leave the missile interceptor for cruise missiles and etc…
Knowing nothing other than what I see here and my experience with German cars.. it’s likely an amazing feat of engineering and precision requiring pristine maintenance to operate effectively. Hope unlike German war machines of the past, it is not outdone by the sheer numbers of enemy combatants and its superiority will be enough serve Ukraine well.
Germans design and build good stuff. The Tiger or Panther is probably better than the T-72.
some better then can of pickles
How many km of range can the Gepard protect?? 10km? 20km? 30km? The area to be defended is so huge, I think they would need thousands of Gepard to cover the whole border with Russia..
The gun has got an effective range of 3-3,5km.
no need to cover the whole border, thats what long range radar is for. you use gepard to keep POIs safe like bases, electrical, gas etc. it was never designed for airspace controll
I bet i can thunk my dji fpv drone off that tank in a simulation.
YOU CAN NOT PAAAAASSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
can it also stop jets or bombers?
low level yes
02:52 Motorola 32 bit 68020 micro processor.... Hey! that's my first Mac LC II with 20 MB HD and 4 megs of RAM. 😛
They Most renewed it model
right. so there were no explotions in Kiev last week. i c
There's a saying about it: Where a 🐆has its lair birds will start to walk🦩😉
ah shit back to warthunder ..... starting game while i type this
I see that BAE is putting the M777 back into profuction. Perhaps the Gepard might follow.
the gepard won't be put back into production. German army air defense is being reestablished among others with the Skyranger-System.
Soweit ich weiss, ist dieser Panzer in Deutschland ausgemustert - wir hätten besser die Entscheider ausgemustert.
If a Gepard is up and running in a convoy and Vihkr are fired from far away over the horizon what is the chance of stopping those missiles? I will guess very good as the missiles are not terrain hugging and are not stealth and are subsonic. Does anyone have solid information?
The Gepard is anti Aircraft so it can only kill slow moving targets and short distance.
The Gepard will at most see the helicopter far outside its engagement range but definitely not the missile unless it is already very VERY close to the convoy. The missile is much too small and fast for the Gepard to intercept it effectively. Sure some cracked gunner might nick one through manual guidance but that's about it. Anything slow flying with a large surface area like a shahed drone or some larger slow flying cruise missiles could be shot down relatively effectively.
The published data seems to contradict; “Gepard can hit targets at altitudes up to 3 kilometers, flying at speeds up to 350-400 m / s; its firing range is up to 4 kilometers”. Note that Mach 1 at ISA is 310 m/s. A missile inbound shows its nose but dwells on the scan (like a baseball thrown at you), so simplifies lock).
@@richardkudrna7503 well the vikhr missile cruises at 600m/s(Mach 1.8). I'm not saying that I can't hit atgms.... It's just insanely unlikely. Either because it simply does not detect the missile or because it can hit it effectively. The missile does not fly in a perfectly straight line towards its target. It twists around its guidance giving lasers.
What I read is that the Vihkr peak velocity is 610 m/sec but average over 6 km is just 430 m/sec. The motor impulse is very strong initially to accelerate it then it goes to a sustain impulse to keep it supersonic out to about 7 km. I feel that if Aimed at the Gepard radar and if say detected at 3 km the Gepard has say 8 seconds before being hit. Let’s say it has 5 seconds to lock, track, fire. I’m still thinking yes, Gepard has a very good chance. I’d like to hear from a former operator.
That is precisely the reason why the USA wanted Germany in NATO at all costs, their outstanding engineers. - And that is also the reason why Ukraine belongs in NATO, because it had the best weapons engineers in the Soviet Union.👍
I, as a german, am proud of our military technology
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a bit misplaced with the Gepard, given that its a swiss development and also a lot of its vital parts werent produced in Germany.
@@diedampfbrasse98 WTF? :-D :-D The Gepard is a German development. Stop taking drugs.
@@Markmockmack you not even bothered to look it up, do you? ... it became a german production (mostly), but it is a swiss development done by Oerlikon-Bührle / later Oerlikon Contraves ... if the project had chosen the german design offered the result would be fairly different, having for example just a 30mm gun among other things.
Maybe you should start taking drugs, so that you have the energy to look things up before making silly comments.
4:44 nice bait... 60% is 31 degrees.
I don't want to see more videos like this because I was expecting statistics on how many FPV-Drones, Shared-Drones, Missiles... were shut down with the Gepards. So why can no Shahed Drone pass the Gepards? How accurate are Gepards?
Very. Shaheds have a significant radar echo due to their size and propeller, and they are generally flying in a straight line. The Gepard gunner essentially just marks the drone on the search radar via joystick, then the turret swings over automatically, the tracking radar follows it, and the fire control computer usually has a firing solution within ~2 seconds. The gunner does not need to do anything more, the turret auto-tracks the drone, and then you step on the firing pedal. It's that simple, really. (Been a Gepard gunner in my army days)
Average german engineering moment
Gepard 🥶😀😄😆😅🤣
How much did they lost for now?
Lol!
Didnt gepards were all destroitded?
Nothing special. We had a modified version, the PRTL, with the Philips radar. They are designed to follow the NATO armour and protect them from low flying attack aircraft. It s largely a stand alone automised system. The Dutch PRTL were sold to Jordan’s and now bought back and will be delivered to Ukraine
what the f. is a "front rear position and a rear front position" did the AI drink too much radiated moonshine?
New fire control systsms, optics, radars, add missiles and the ability to passively observe and affect the battlefield and you have yourself a pantsir. More nations need something like the pantsir.
rear front of turret doesn't make sense.... can't compute error error error.... i'm dead. You can't also traverse 60 degree angle upward and only be able to clear and object max height of 1.15 meters. Math isn't correct. Error error error. Massive error in your height depictions.
To my friends and western allies:
We have to improve our military’s, our protection and our ability to defend our Nato territory.
This system is exactly what Ukraine needs at the moment for short range protection of their infrastructure against ruZZian / iranian Shahed drones.
for infrastructure? not really, there are a couple of CIWS in existence which are far superior and would be much more useful for that job, like the US Centurion C-RAM or the German/Swiss Mantis/Skyshield ... thats the stuff Ukraine actually needs for its infrastructure.
the Gepard only is considered the solution because its available, unlike the rare and more expensive CIWS ... technicly the Gepard is more suited for frontline service, protecting the defense lines, artillery and assault units from loitering munition and surveillance/attack drones. Using them to protect infrastructure and inland cities is wasting the Gepards potential, but ofc Ukraine simply got no better options as NATO cant get its arse up to support them properly with modern weapons.
Never I understood the political decission to put this system out of order. :(
Counteractive measures are possible, if rocktes like Stingers are on the way, but useless if 35mm projects are on the way!
the decision to phase them out was fairly rational, they simply were old and reached their end of life. The dumb decision was to not replace them with the modern skyhield systems, maintaining the direct fire air defense capability of the Heer. But you cant pin that on politicians tbh, that nonsense to restructure the airdefense, completely switch to missile defesne and make it a pure Luftwaffe task came from the Bundeswehr itself ... german politicians relied on what the Bundeswehr told them, if our military were led by people with brain they would have insisted upon maintaining that capability and never would have given the option to restructure our airdefense into oblivion.
As much power as politicians have in Germany, they still only chose between the options given by military experts and lobbyists ... the nonsense to retire direct fire AA should never have been an option put on the table of ministers by our military.
Because we have cheaper and better systems already!
which one?@@HedgehogZone
"Shahed" is not russian. It's an iranian knock off of an old American drone.
jajajajajajaa¡¡ can not pass ?
Obsolete😁
Dude, please get the German Name Right, it’s Gepard and Bundeswehr Not whatever you said.
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I can understand why some people call this thing, a robot or remote-controlled tank, slap in a targeting VI on your gold, but some one they are shooting down WW II style kamikaze pilots,
😂gepar only cover 5 km . Not 500km front
😂😂😂so who is winning?And btw proof not just some propaganda😂😂😂
And what about missiles with Mach 1 and higher? Gepard can shoot down slowly drones, yes but what about other stuff. while everybody just talks about gepard and drones i think my question got already answered.
thats not what its made for, the gepard is the last line of defence, CQB air defence if you want. For missiles you have other systems like patriot or IRIS-T
no mention of “Russian shahed” in your narration but you it’s i. the kreaking title.
if u explain to russians why they cant pass it is the same when u say them how to pass it - this kind of information sholdnt be posted until war end
Well, if it isn't already clear from the video, it's already a waste of time to explain anything to anyone
😂 the Gepard is nothing new. I would be surprised if any of this is news to the russians.
Falsch haben sie gestern nacht gemacht die bösen Russen 😂
Die Ukraine hat ja auch so viele davon, dass man mit ihnen den gesamten Luftraum kontrollieren kann. Nein, hat sie nicht. Wissen ist Macht und Du hast weder vom Einen noch vom Anderen.
Iwan. Nach 2 Jahren Peinlichkeit könnt ihr Russen nicht mal mehr Mitleid erregen.
The premise is laughable - Gepard is not a weapon against (Irainian, btw) Shaheds. Shaheds cover distances on the order of 1000 km, at an altitude of about 50-100 meters. The probability of a Shahed ever flying into one of the handful of Gepards is laughably low. To protect a large area against Shaheds, you need a large number of cheap machine guns; not a fancy radar-controlled turret inexplicably placed onto a tank chassis (seriously wtf - I could MAYBE understand the armor, but what's up with the fucking tracks?). Also, the other radar - the spinning one, - offers almost zero utility against low-flying Shaheds, as its radio horizon will be virtually the same as visual horizon.
oh right, shaheds can fly 1000km, so we must have SHORAD along the entire line!!! Or, we could place one or others near high risk strategic sites and the shaheds will go straight over them, clever right? It's on a Leopard chassiss as it's fast and reliable. They don't use tyres and use tracks instead as that means it can follow armoured assaults and of course be all terrain. you seem like one of those people that talk for days but don't know what they're talking about.
So wrong in so many facts!!!!!!!!!
The gepard Is a cheap crap which belongs to the scrapyard and he can't top the stryker I'm shorad
speak english next time
It can though. Those Shaheed drones striked multiple areas in Ukraine were Gepard operates on video. Its in telegrams.
U believe the numbers downed Reported by Ukraine ? 😂😂
and what Numbers do you believe? The Numbers of the Russians?
@@gerhardma4687 nope but I belive certain youtube channels and they show that the numbers given by Ukraine are always fake
I as a German think this valueble highly specific Weaponsystem had nothing to do on green troops in Ukraine barely trained for six weeks on the systems!
German sondiert were drilled for nearly a year to get full status permission on these systems !
Now Russian Forces had a chance to inspect those GepstdscanscLeopards cause poorly trained troops withdraw and fled and abandoned from those Chassis and ran ! 🤦🏻♂️
IMPOV one of the biggest severe mistakes of NATO-Strategic-Command ❗
Meine Frage ist wie viele Zeit von diesem Jahr wegen Papierkram und Bürokratie verschwunden ist?