The Oregon Trail 3rd Edition (Surveyor)
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- I try to show off as many FMVs as I can along the way. I did finish with a good score, which is measured by acreage in this game. I named my character after the true stars of the Oregon Trail series- Death N' Disease. This is the "Beginner" difficulty, but I don't know if that played a part in my zero mortality rate or not. However, it definitely does affect my starting cash. Austin Billings, Jeff Goldsmith, Sally Goldsmith, and Casey O'Neill are my party members.
I'm quite impressed with how they wrote Austin Billings. Considering the minimalist script, they gave a fairly good image of how slavery played out in the era, and not with the guilt tripping people they usually like to do with the narratives. Togba Norris gave an excellent playful performance, while not dumbing it down for the intended audience. The character at least has some depth (albeit limited), though when compared to the one-dimensional nature of most of the other characters, it's a fresh breath of air to have one in 2D.
Even the Native Americans are better written in this version- without the "YOU did this to us" and more of show of how they got a raw deal (though I didn't get it during this playthrough, since conversations are a little bit on the randomized side). At least they're not like the "I'm happy to let you drive us from our land, here's some free fruit, you cursed white devil" types from previous games in the series.
That's not to say I don't have my problems with the writing and research. They try placing the blame for the Donner Party incident on the people involved more than the weather- especially with the newspaper guy ranting about Lansford Hastings. Even the bit where the old guy says they started in late summer was totally inaccurate- the Donner-Reed Party left Independence on May 10th. At least they got the cannibalism part right, and put the right tone on it.
There's also a bit of inaccuracy dealing with the Whitman Massacre, making it sound more like it was the Whitmans' fault than it actually was. They didn't bring the disease with them- other pioneers travelling the trail did. At least they leave you to draw your own conclusion about the Whitmans' attempt at converting the Natives to Christianity. I guess it's OK they left out some of the real complexities of the cause/effect with the incident, considering younger kids are the target audience. But I still wish they would've got their info right on the bits they did share.
You're review is amazing. I thank you for your kind words about my performance in this project I have fond memories of working on this series, and had the pleasure of being directed by Richard D. Thompson. This was my very first commercial project, my very first video game project. Both Richard and I were hired by The Learning Company out of Brooklyn Center, MN and this project led to a few other projects with The Learning Company and launched my commercial career in Minneapolis.
I put my heart into this work and I appreciate you taking the time to review and showcase it. I'm deeply humbled.
Togba Norris =-)
Togba Norris You deserved it. Most of the memorable characters from the Oregon Trail series are only memorable due to how ridiculous they are (ie. Nicholas J. Tillman consistently giving horrible advice and often being portrayed as a fool). In previous builds, the character of Austin Billings was more of a generic NPC. Even given the minimalist script, you did a very good job bringing him to life here and in 4th Ed. (though that's a random encounter on the trail).
+Togba Norris I used to play this game a lot when I was quite young, and I mean it sincerely when I say Austin was my favourite character to bring along with me. I only found this video because I was on a nostalgia trip, and to think that one of the actors would have commented on this is amazing to me. So thank you for the experience, and all the fond memories!
Togba Norris I understand this was some time ago and that the game's been updated, but I grew up on this. Any chance there will ever be a version of this that'll play on modern computers? I want to play this version so badly it's almost painful.
Austin Billings would always be the one to survive when I played this game.
I've looked for a review of this for years. I like the characters and game play better in many ways compared to 5. Thanks Very Much!
I remember the rattlesnake stew lady. On one trip I brought her and her husband along. He ended up dying to some disease or other, but the wife would always still call him to supper during these cutscenes. It was sad.
"Well now, look-a-here! Another greenhorn pioneer all set to head out on the trail." LOL! I loved this game.
As a Swede, this game made me interessted in the Oregon Trails :3
I even began to research about the Donner Party. It's a terrifying story.
Donner Pass is still cursed to this day
Duuude I miss this game!!
This was from 1997?! I remember it like I just walked away from my computer to get a snack before I sit back down and switch to disc 2.
The times I didn't get mauled by a bear were pretty fantastic.
Beautiful Graphics. I missed out.
Wow this was such a great game. the memories are still clear. thanks!!!!
I remember playing this for hours as a kid on windows 98!
How to play Windows 98 games in Windows 11?
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this!!! This was the highlight of my childhood, practically!
Breezy7117 Same! I would spend hours and hours playing this game
You guys are amazing!!! Thank you so much!! It was a PLEASURE working on this project!!! I'm so glad it had such a positive impact on all of you!! Blessings and Thank you!!
@@Digitaldance75 you’re awesome! This game was one of the best I played in my youth too! You should be proud! I still miss it and I’m trying to figure out if there is a download now somewhere or if I have to get an old laptop lol.
I loved this game. I remember coming home from elementry school in the 90s and play this. The country music reminds me of my mom who loved the old west history. It really brings back fond memories.❤
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I must say, Sally looks remarkably good for a woman who just got torn up by a bear. XD
I remember playing this computer game when I had the CD-ROM version.
So many memories with this game
So wish I could play this again on my laptop! It was my favorite of the Oregon Trail games... T__T
Iv tried to run it with different emulators and it doesn't work for me. Idk if I'm missing something but it's funny how a new gaming laptop cant run games from pre-2000s sometimes. Ross Scott (Accursed Farms / Freemans Mind) talked about that issue at length cuz he reviews old games like this.
This bring back memories
I'm hoping to get my Win95 computer up and running so I can replay this game, Interstate 76 and Duke Nukem again. Thank you so much for posting this play-through!
And Titanic: Adventures Out of Time.
I remember hunting if you missed the skunk 🦨- it would spray you. 😂
This game was amazing. I love it.
Unfortunately, Austin Billings would've had a hard time getting land in Oregon in the 1840s, owing to the black exclusion laws that were in effect at the time. If only the 3rd edition hadn't removed the additional trail options - some black men in situations similar to his were able to do reasonably well for themselves during the California Gold Rush, either as miners themselves or (more commonly) as providers of services. Making tools would have been a good source of income for him.
Of course, once the Fugitive Slave Act passed, he would have been under constant threat of being sent back into slavery if he didn't have documentation on him at every waking moment. The barbarism of slavery and the legal system that supported it really can't be overstated or made too obvious.
yeah they actually acknowledged that in the sequel
The sounds for a concussion always startled me when playing this game. It was always so loud and came out of nowhere....
Ah, there's the version of the game my family had (or maybe we still have it...) I used to watch my brother play this game often and the overall atmosphere of the game always appealed to me (minus the dying part lol). Unfortunately, I couldn't beat the game when I played it because the stupid third disc was bugged or something, making it impossible to move a centimeter across the map without being told "THIS COLD COULD KILL YOU"
THIS is the oregon trail that was my childhood lol
This is a great Live-Action Software game
I miss playing this game, what i DON'T miss is the random events that had startling noises, jumpscare worthy. There was no way to turn those noises off without turning off dialogue or certain not disturbing noises with it which also irked me, but overall it was always fun playing it. Who knew you could actually get Fired in this game?
I have a 3 disk set of this game, never played it though
if anyone can tell me if there is a way to download and play this on a MacBook Pro I would be forever grateful. I have so much nostalgia for this version of Oregon Trail. I played it constantly as a kid.
on a side note I really want a new one in the same or similar engine and style to red dead redemption 2. I keep thinking about it and I want it so bad.
I hope you realized in hindsight you could pick the rose hips they're not poisonous
It broke me in this and his 4th edition play through lol.
Do you remember exactly what the office manager would say if he had decided to send the player of the game to the hospital due to being in poor health?
I miss playing this game
eBay, Amazon, and the like are your friends.
Got mine for $10.
kamikaze9699 I actually already have the game, however it won't install right on the XP I though the play game part isn't greyed out everytime I click on it, it keeps saying "please insert Oregon trail disc 1"
iheartryanstyles Google how to install Oregon Trail on XP. It's just copying file folders from Disk 1 to a folder on your hard drive and messing around with the config file so it recognizes your CD drive. I forget at the moment the names and folders, but it's fairly simple- similar to how I installed other versions. Just watch while changing disks, it sometimes looks like it's about to crash but isn't.
I found a better solution, trick the darn system, right click the setup, go to properties, click compatability and select windows 98, the game installed
I never questioned the greeter that much.
58:45 WHEW! I was worried that the bear would get angry.
Um please disregard what I said this game brings back childhood memories I could never do this in real life
man this music takes me back :D
I love this game. Were their revisions to it you seem to have a lot more cut scenes than I remember having?
41:40 This moment felt like such a cop-out when I played so many years ago.
Can you tell me how you got this to work? We tried an XP virtual machine but can’t get it to “ “read”the disc
"Death 'N' Disease" made me giggle 🤣
No mention of the Mormon or California trails like in Oregon trail II....
Best of the series.
Is this the nicest property you can get as the ending?
Hey, thanks for the vids! I was wondering: could you record the music, too? I loved the music from this game.
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i didn't know Ann of Green Gables was on the Oregon trail hahahaha
You could download the game for free on old games download but the setup won’t work unless you have an old computer
STOP IT. IVE FINALLY FOUND THE ONE I HAD 😭
Love this game
1:40:09 Hmm, the doctor seemed sincere when he called this guy a "distinguished gentleman". 🤔
21:39 I feel sorry for her. Shame that the game only allows 5 people.
Strange that the sheriff wasn't at Fort Kearny. He was supposed to warn you about this guy.
15:43 When I was little, I tried turning to the left to see her come around the corner, but it didn't work because it simply reset her location. LOL
1:46:25 Nnnoooo! I wanted to see and hear Chief Joseph!
22:54 The game I played must have been unpatched or something, because I ALWAYS took the Irish butcher with me because he was RICH compared to everyone else. He always had somewhere between $350 to $800 dollars on him, and one was one of the VERY few people who didn't have supply piles that were completely empty.
29:14 To hear my dialogue, trade with him. "I do not want to trade with you." He will say.
1:53:43 Nooo! I wanted you to talk to that funny guy who owns the toll road! 😁
Clicking the wagon wheel actually allows you to skip the raft.
1:00:17 used to scare the crap out of me when I was a kid.
That newspaper guy throws some serious shade on Landford.
I honestly don't know what I think about Landford. Is he resposibly for the Donner incident? Well, to an amount, but most of the incident was due to bad luck and not heading to the trail in time. But people trusted him and trusted that he had explored that route and thus it was safe, so yeah, I do think he has some responsibility over that.
And the Whitmen? I think both the Whitmen and the Natives were wrong. I don't take sides on that matter.
Lansford Hastings looked at a map famed explorer John Fremont made in 1845 shortly before Hastings published his emigrants' guide, and from that map he created his own cutoff that ran south of the Great Salt Lake and claimed it would cut hundreds of miles off the journey despite not having explored that geographic area himself beforehand. Fremont nearly died the first time he crossed that section of desert. A colleague of Hastings who traveled with him AND was a mutual friend of one of the guys in the Donner Party actually ran into them during the first part of their journey west and insisted they not take the Hastings Cutoff because that route would only lead to death and despair but they were pigheaded and refused to listen to reason. Even more infighting within their wagon train caused the families to all break down into separate units that refused to work together, and the whole group was majority older men, women, and young children so they didn't have enough able bodied young men to do the heavy labor required to get everyone safely through the Sierra Nevadas in time. I'd say the end result is maybe 15% Hastings' fault and 85% the Donner Party's fault, but Hastings couldn't be held liable for multiple reasons: 1) they weren't in US territory anymore, they were on Mexican land. 2) Legal enforcement was incredibly weak in the 1840s. 3) Modern lawyers would argue that Hastings did not have a legal duty to see the Donners safely through to California--anyone can publish a book of bad advice, that doesn't mean they're legally responsible for every idiot who actually follows it. Lansford was originally a lawyer from Ohio, so he of anyone would have already known this.
anyone know the title of the music used for Ayers Bridge?
1:58:45 I never understood why we can't visit this fort. :(
Pro gamer indeed unlike BrutalMoose.
I assume you do need a non 64-bit OS. I've yet to find a way to play this on Windows 7, 8 etc that is 64 bit. Anyone know of a way?
Brian Hum I haven't tried putting it on my current computer yet. I know on XP I had to manually copy files and manually edit the config file to get the game to recognize my CD drive. Worst case scenario, you may have to look for an emulator, but, as I said, I haven't tried it yet to find out.
When the Learning Company acquired MECC, the quality really went down. OT2 in my opinion was way better than OT3.
...Morgan?
24:47 You should have clicked left instead of right; the nurse girl tends to be there.
I wish I could play this game so bad, but unfortunately it will not install on my computer. I wish I knew a way to do it like you can with Oregon Trail II
It's just copying file folders from Disk 1 to a folder on your hard drive and messing around with the config file so it recognizes your CD drive. I forget at the moment the names and folders, but it's fairly simple- similar to how I installed other versions. Just watch while changing disks, it sometimes looks like it's about to crash but isn't.
kamikaze9699 If you could possibly message me step by step details, once you figure it out for Windows 7, I would really appreciate that! :)
kamikaze9699 I would also love to know how to do this as I have the same problem with it not recognizing the disk 1 in the cd drive. I would be extremely grateful if you could walk me through it.
I can't play this anymore no computer anymore I got a virus in all of the I don't know were my CD at
It's weird how you have to leave and come back in order to continue a conversation. I didn't have that problem. :(
Your version of the game is very weird. You met very few locals when you looked around, and yet you found far more abandoned wagons than I have. Usually there was nobody to see.
where can you get this game for free i cant find it anywhere it looks really cool please
Amazon has it for 3$
Hastings should have been arrested.
Jean Gentry yeah he killed the Donnors should have Rufus Reeves on him
This isn't the 3rd edition.
Yes it is.
This game was amazing. I love it.