Awesome!! The amperage on crystal cells is very impressive! Thank you for sharing the video. We are living in a time of technological suppression.. but that time is coming to an end.
If you pick up a 3/4" wire brush for cleaning copper fittings. Trim it down to fit the I.D. of the tubing. Then scratch grooves on the inside of the pipe to create greater surface area. Similarly deep grooves on the magnesium will increase surface area too. It will not make a huge difference, but every little bit helps.
First I want to thank you for sharing your video and knowledge with the world. As a 'prepper' I am very interested in the process but need to ask some questions. 1) How long can the batteries last (shelf life) with no load on them? 2) Can any of the materials be re-used when a cell goes dead? Like the copper and magnesium..... 3) Have you considered selling 'kits' of raw materials to guys like me who do not have good source for some of those materials? . Now, as a former electrical engineer who uses those import jumper wires all the time, I can tell you that you are probably not getting accurate short circuit current readings due to the resistance in the wire the jumpers are made from. They are ok to about 200 Ma., but if you are trying to measure short circuit currents significantly more than 200 Ma; (like 1 ampere or more), the battery may be capable of sourcing an ampere or more and being limited by the voltage loss caused by the resistance in the jumper wires.and causing you to get a reading of only 700 Ma... To test this for yourself, take a reading with only two jumper wires, and then take another reading without any jumper wires at all, using the meter probes only. Regards, Dennis O.
My experience with wire clamps is that they can restrict the current flows. You should solder all the connections to a good switch that is meant to handle up to 10 Amps. then measure the batterys flows.
Congratulation!! You discovered an electro-corrosion. The same technique is used for ages by shipyards to protect big steel ships from corrosion The chemistry is slightly different Steel+Magnesium+Salty water+Cooper but the idea is the same. To answer the question how much does this battery last... well until Magnesium "dissolve"-corrode itself. That could be up to a year or two!!!! So don't run to the patent office yet!! Cheers
Thank you. My plane is to combine these with a homemade super cap and a 3D printed desktop lamp. To make a source of light for life by only adding water.
+Gary DePietro I have left these on a joule ringer powering three 10 mm LEDs for days and days on end. although if the load is to big let's say over 300ma they will eventually not supply enough to light the led. but then again just disconnect them from the load. let em sit over night, re-hook em and off they go. if you match the load to the cells impedance they just keep going. at first the led will be very very bright. but after let's say 12 hours the light will be alot dimmer. but will remain lit. after they dim just let em sit for a day and bam right back to full bright. this set in this video has been sitting in a box for almost a year now unused. sometime this summer I'll pulled back out and see how strong they are
This is such a hype, never managed to build due to Mg being dangerous, theoretically, but inspired me into studying a lot of stuff about batteries. Oh, and please, share the song names!
What would be fantastic, is if you could put a small load on the battery that draws maybe 100mA , then also measure the voltage over that period of test. Leave it till the voltage drops below say 70% of full voltage. or even 50% . This way you can measure the true power in watts that it has delivered. Then let it recharge and do it again. Then you have a valid comparison of this type of battery to a standard battery. If you prefer to use a pulsed load, perhaps use a 50% pulsed load. That way its easy to calculate the power based on 50% supply.
I tried that and mixed galena and different quartz and iron pyrite. I made like 50 but wiring them was a bitch. But I definetaly comvinced you can wire a house in a fraction of the space. Solar panels take alot of space and these you can make tiny and dont need sun. In a solar panel configuration with them charging a power supply I absolutely think you can power a small cabin and more if youre dedicated and can find a smart way to make them to stack them up and multiply the voltages and amperages easily
Curious if you put anything on the bottom of the cells to hold the alum in? Or did you let it harden first after the first watering and its holding itself in? Also would love to see a follow up video in a month showing where these cells settle at. All of mine no matter what have always settled around 30mA. I've never tried using iron pyrite though. Thanks for posting this man! :)
Just a few drops on the top then let it sit for a few. Then I flipped them over real fast like, some of the mix fall out so I added a lil more till it was full then a few drops of water and bam your good. As for a follow up vid that is already planed. I'm going to go over all the different cells I have made. You are right most of the ones with different mixes fall of right to 30ma. Thanks for the comment
+DEVIS&MARIOS Thanks. Im working on some home made super caps to store the energy when not in use. This will allow me to power heaver loads. The cells seem to have leveled off now so ill be posting an update video in a week or so. I'll go over all the different cells I've made. thanks for the comment
Do you need the to add purifed water....? or can I us tap water....? how often do I need 2 use the water....? looks like leakege....where does it go....? Great reseach and devlopment....however hydrogen gas....?
Hello. Great Video. ^^ Any news about you crystal batteries? Did you make new ones? Maybe you could make an update video and more videos about this. Thanks, i really appreciate that. ^^ Greetings from austria, Michael
can you test the difference between fired copper with iron and without iron? Also have you tried epsom salts? John Bedini has good results on his channel, Energex..
have you tried a bigger mass of copper a thick walled pipe? if you put it up in the air does it put out more voltage?amperage? ideas from tesla patents.
3/4 inch copper pipe and 5/8 inch mag rod inside, gives you 1/16 inch space inside to put the screw and the solution. You can barely fit a toothpick inside that much space. Your screw must have a very small thin head. The question is, how long will the battery last and is it rechargeable?
It should in theory last forever- it doesn't need to be recharged as it draws power from thermal energy. Alum only mixtures show little to no signs of corrosion which is the only possible way these cells could fail.
+Alex no these cells stay put. The crystals do grow out of the top and bottom so once a month or so I just scrape off the excess. I a little cream of tartar is added the crystal growth will almost stop. In the cells that I have made with multiple ingredients the magnesium has been attacked pretty bad. But any of the alum only cells there are no visible signs. Maybe under a microscope but at that rate who cares.
+BackRoom Labs Thanks for the quick reply! I just made some Rochelle salts and is planning to make a couple of crystal cells that are similar to the John Hutchison's method as I wasn't keen on the crystal growth from the alum-method because I would like them to literally last forever and not only a couple of years before the magnesium rod has been pushed out. Sorry for the long sentence haha. However, after you mention that a little cream of tartar will inhibit much of the alum-method crystal cell growth, how much do you reckon I should add into the alum-method mix to prevent any sort of growth? Your alum-method is a much cheaper alternative to making crystal cells than John Hutchison's method as making Rochelle salts is expensive due to the cream of tartar being quite expensive for the amount you get.
That's a pretty quick voltage drop. Reminded me of a capacitor more than a battery. The cell probably builds up an internal charge (maybe a buildup of a specific chemical or ion) which he depletes faster than the battery replinishes it. I'd love to see a long term test to see how long it lasts and what output it settles at. At least a few days straight of discharge if the cell can last that long. We need a discharge curve.
@@ancapftw9113 I made it John hutchison method the ingredients last for ever base on electric memory n petrol electrical effects but the problem is an anode..I tried so many type of alloys as an anode but they quickly lose their sort of ability...magnesium was eaten off in 3 days ...
Thank you for the video and research. I agree this is a crystal cell and not a chemical cell. I did not observe a heating process for the crystal, is this a cold build? You just used a dry (room temperature) mixture and added water; is that correct? You did not melt the mixture? Thanks Myk
Impressive stuff. You said you stuck thin wires while stuffing the battery. What if you wound insulated wires through it? Would those copper wires generate some voltage? Like a transformer effect?
Probably not. Transformers require alternating current. A thin sheet of paper might help keep the magnesium from touching the copper though. If you did do that though with the copper it might have a reasonable inductance built into it so it would produce a voltage spike every time it was disconnected.
Thanks for your sharing. Am I missing something or did you just assume that I would know if you cooked the crystals. It appears that you just added the powdered crystals and added a little water for a boost? Once again thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Instead of using a Joule Thief circuit, have you tried hooking up one of those upconverters that boost from 0.9v-5v and outputs to 5v usb? So these reactivate with a couple of drops of distilled water? I could not tell if your version has a copper cap on the bottom or if you simply pack it as an open tube and let packing material harden in it....
I saw some people use the copper and magnesium rod. But instead of only Alum powder they use a mix of Borax (yes the powder), Epsom Salt, potassium chloride, and Alum in equal parts. Then there would be no addition of water needed. The 'battery' charges itself by unplugging it for a short time. Have you experienced this ?
I see it's a very special Battery. Saw video's from John Bedini. Still have a question. It doesn't use the Copper. It doesn't solve the magnesium. Does it only use the water or also the Alum ?
I also built them recently. I could not get pyrite and borax yet. So I have tried with Alum salt and Potassium chloride mix. With the dry smashed mix, it gives me 1.95 Volts. Bt I am not happy with amperage. However, I will test different versions as soon as pyrite and borax came.
Magnaxium solt water battery magnzium dissapper lator so this bettery not last hoever but good for less than one month or less tgan one week? My salt water battery lasted about one week till magnazim dissapired
does the powders put into the cell get expended, or just the water?? this will sound odd, but with your setup i think you could dunk them in water and they will still work? also does one of the metals get eroded?
Excellent work , I will try some of these. Have you tried using iron oxide instead of the pyrite? Just a thought I might try that, also have you tried to charge the cells? Thanks for the video, its great.
+Ed Lovvorn in the future I am going to try some more lets say exotic mixes. look for John Bedini earth light forum about crystal batteries. it is a very long read. It took me several evenings to shift through all the info. at the end john was able to produce a single cell that help 1 amp on a dead short. the mix wasn't exactly disclosed. but there is enough that I think I can get close. stuff gets a little spendy though. try a test cell with the oxide against others and see what is best.
how long do these crystals last? I don't want to have to water a battery everyday and I don't want it to die over night either.Any thoughts on making enough of these to be able to charge a 12v car battery... store your energy there, then run what you need from the car battery, use an inverter with the battery if needed.
This looks awesome! I did some reading on these, and it looks like they use the piezoelectric effect of ambient heat/etc. to generate electricity. How long have you gotten them to last???
you are correct. the hotter they are the more amperage they will supply. although I have frozen them and they still output power thought not near as much.
Honestly to the date today they look exactly the same as the day I made them everyone says that they consume the Magnesium but if you use Alum only and no other salts the Magnesium stays intact
Can you please list the name in writing of those ingredience that u mix up to become crystal so I can go buy at store or order ebay cheaper ? and the stick thing in the middle. Saw someone on youtube use Galvanize screw. is that ok or less power? thanks a lot
Its not like a chemical battery. This type of cell splits water into hydrogen and oxygen. The spliting of the h2o creats the power. But initially the power output is pretty strong as the reactions taking place use the magnesium as a sacrificial metal. Once the layer of corrosion has covered the magnesium the power will drop off and then just use the water to convert into energy once you add the water to the cell when they're new you can actually hear it Sizzle a little bit that's the water converting into its two basic elements
I'm thinking of a design, first nano coat both anode and cathode, either (bedini or keshe) Then a layer of graphene oxide, then thin layer of mixed gans,, then thin layer of liquid glass, then crystal recipe, in between.
I became diverted by 'Roberts super cap, and I made a little one that seems to work better than a triple A battery but a 15 sec charge will run a small 20ma motor for about 45sec. When I scale it up I cant get it to show the same power, so I must be doing something wrong. My question is, do you have any updates to your crystal cells? Thanks
Lol I have been messing with the super caps to. I have had some success. My issue is the binder for the ink. I'm getting close. Hopefully this weekend I'll have something to post a vid about. As far as an update on the cells. In the next weeks or so I'll post an update with all the different cells I have made. Some are around 2 years old and still working.
+Ed Lovvorn i was going to try styrofoam. I have some polystyrene I'll try that this weekend. I have the PVA "elemers glue" I tried robert smiths recommendation of 5 to 10% binder to active material. It didn't bond to the aluminum foil to well. I'm Gona try and up the % and see what happens. Thanks for the info.
I also made a new crystal cell mixture today. It is very unconventional from the existing mixtures everyone does. Using magnesium and copper electrodes, It has been running a small drone motor for about 4 hours so far and still going strong. Once it stops I will try to recharge it with a power supply and I will check for corrosion on the electrodes. I will give an update and what the chemicals are. O by the way the electrodes are just bigger than a mail stamp.
This is a really good video. However, am I missing something or is this just a regular battery? Isn't this just electrolysis of metals, using the water and alum as the electrolyte, moving electrons from one metal to the other, and destroying the surface of one metal in the process? This is what happens when you take any 2 dissimilar metals and put them in a conductive fluid. One metal gets destroyed as it donates electrons, and electroplates the other nearby metal. The same thing can be done by taking 2 dissimilar metals and sticking them into the side of a Lemon. This forms a standard battery. I don't know how a real crystal battery works, so that is why I am asking?
I'm new to this tech., but I think the reason they call them crystal batteries is because the solution inside eventually crystallizes. I think you are correct in saying this is not a real crystal battery. I think botwire is right this seems to be a chemical reaction that makes the power, as soon as the water evaporates no more power. The real crystal battery videos I have seen have cells that have been operating for years. Good video though, I like the building technique advice.
I sure do appreciate it when someone finally comes along and says so simply and understandably, what so many others cant seem to help but representing as so complex and perplexing, and all in less than a paragraph...👍
the power density isn't even close to lithium ion. although. a lithium battery needs recharged. by another power source. as to the crystal cell ad far as anyone knows this particular type is not a galvanic reaction. that being said these little puppy's might be able to output power for 5 maybe 10 year or even 50. so if you add up that output of its entire life the numbers would be insane. these cells are better used in a pulsed type of usage. setup would be to deliver power for let's say on for 1/2 a second off for a full second and so on. they act source of like a self charging capacitor.
This is not a crystal battery....It is a magnesium copper battery...Your salts absorb humidity in the air to stay wet, essentially turning your salts into the electrolyte...The power is being derived from the magnesium....
It wont maintain 2 volts. It will settle in to stable voltage lower than 2v. Something like 1.7 or so. You can over wet the crystal. Causeing voltage and power output to sag. If found better output the warmer the cell. Also helps to let it dry out sometimes. You can use if for a month put it on a shelf for 6 months. Pull it out, wet the crystal and its outputting power.
@@1billyknorr I find it's not much use if you have to vet it have you tried to heat the alum it bubbles.. and did you try mix with Epsom potassium chloride and borax?
whats the smallest that you can make this like , bullet size? make a NANO version , as small as you can to see if you can push at least half amp at 5 volts :D
+WorkFreeWizard as far as anyone knows these should last for 10, 20 years.....whit the alum only cells the magnesium in some that are over a year shows almost no signs of corrosion. In a few weeks im going to post a new vid going over the different cells I have made.
borax is a mineral used as a detergent or detergent additive. One good use is pest control. Insects with an exoskeleton... the borax works into there joints and eventually cuts in the none protected areas under the hard outer shell. Borax, also known as sodium borate, sodium tetraborate, or disodium tetraborate, is an important boron compound, a mineral, and a salt of boric acid. Powdered borax is white, consisting of soft colorless crystals that dissolve easily in water. As for the alum it is potassium alum, which is the hydrated form of potassium aluminum sulfate and has the chemical formula KAl(SO4)2·12H2O. You can see the compound is considered a hydrate with 12 molecules of water (H20) this aides in the cells conductivity within the crystal structure. Potassium alum is a fine white powder that you can find sold with kitchen spices or pickling ingredients. All in all the borax is not needed for this to work. All the cells I made with borax are destroyers of the magnesium. Magnesium is the scrafical metal in these cells. So the idea is to drastically reduce if not eliminate this reaction without decreasing power output. Best results were found by using alum only for the crystal. Look at some of my other crystal battery vids. there are some other doping agents I want to try. these aid in increased power higher amps, neat stuff
Hello, are referring to Diatomaceous Earth, which is very hard shells of Silica made from Diatoms in the ancient lakes which have now dried up. These shells of ancient Diatom creatures are collected, and this is what is sold as "Ditomaceous Earth" which is literally miniature pieces of silica shells, which is known to cut up and kill small animals such as ants, and fleas when they get the shells on them. Borax works because Boric acid is toxic to microorganisms, and in other countries they use Boric acid as a food preservative.
@@ancapftw9113 Harry Robinson You have not done your homework; the "Crystal Power Cell" was invented by a man named John Hutchison after he discovered a Free Energy effect in Piezo ceramics and other crystals. It is called fero-electricity by mainstream science. This must be picked up by other researchers!
@@bardrick4220 I'm assuming that you are referring to using ferroelectric materials for energy harvesting. Or maybe the fact that they are Piezoelectric too. If you are using the term "free energy" to mean energy that exists and can be collected, then sure, ferroelectric materials can be used to make "free energy" devices.
@@ancapftw9113 Piezo and pyroelectricity are side effects of these materials. Barium titanate was the original material, and the video is still available on John Hutchison's UA-cam channel. I suspect Zero Point Energy (or Dark Energy); something like a molecular Quantum Tunnel Diode, but it is not well understood! I have replicated the results: obtain a pezio ceramic, charge it with a battery to align the domains (polarity sensitve), discharge by shorting leads, repeat discharging indefinitely approximately once per min. The ceramic emmits a clicking sound every time the leads are shorted!
Hi BackRoom Labs, I really like your video. The way you built that is amazing! I made a battery using 10 soda cans wired in series, could I get your feedback on my Soda Can Battery video? Maybe we could work on a project together in the future, sending each other video clips or referring to each-others channels? Thank you!
Not to be a party pooper, but you made a chemical battery based upon the galvanic reaction between two dissimilar metals (magnesium being particularly reactive) by incorporating an electrolyte medium (salt) between them. I bet you find the magnesium cathode eroding away too as it gives up its electrons aka the source of your power. No free energy from doped power crystals in this. If you get your electrolyte solution more efficient, you could see a voltage theoretically of up to 2.69 volts or so per cell. Reactivity of copper (.34 volts) added to reactivity of magnesium (2.35 volts) in a proper salt dielectric would be 2.69 volts. There are other versions of this type of "crystal power" source out there readily available; Duracell, Energizer and EverReady as examples. Now if these cells you made are somehow powering that fan for months on end and not just days... you may then have something. The magical "boost" I see people doing to "activate" their "crystal batteries" is simply recharging them, aka reversing the chemical process. Also increases the efficiency of the interface between the two dissimilar metals (removes the oxide layer) making the battery more efficient.
problem is that these cells are well over a year old and the magnesium is still 99 percent intact. the inital pitting happens within a few days. the power output falls in this initail pitting time then has been consistant ever since. ill post a follow up vid in a few months
Well then maybe you can explain to me why I sent your post 10 months ago you state that I'm going to consume magnesium whereas there has been no magnesium consumption whatsoever any other cell that I made that used any other type of salt other than album the cell corroded and was dead within four to five months 8 months at the most
when i made mine i only used molten salts no water added gave them a charge once they had hardened and they stay at the 1.4v mark consistently and are powerful enough to power a whole set of led garden lights flashing on/off for long period of time.. i think adding water just makes this a normal battery apposed to a true crystal cell.. yes these will last a while but vs a solid state crystal cell these ones would not. i get lower amps but longevity is better @@lappansommer546
Msybe You have a hybrid cell, when dry,a crystal cell low amps, when wet, I promise your mag is getting eaten, I made a battery with only mag ribbon alum/water, copper, Got 1. 7v each, 2 cells in series ran a small 6v motor very well for about an hour, bubbled a lot, then it died when the alum totally dissolved the mag ribbon!
Quantum Energy Solutions . Problem with the ribbon is it's purity. It's cheap. You need 99.98 or better pure magnesium. Also the red copper is essential. It creates a semi conductor layer. It's been long enough I'll have to cut one open and show the difference.
BackRoom Labs I'm aware of John Bedini was redding the copper, have you done comparisons doing a Keshe coating? Search nano coating capper Keshe plasma. Yup mag ribbon is unpure, and as in litmotors alum, mag, crystal cell lasted for years, at low steady output. The holy Grail will be high output and zero degrading. We will get there for sure.
Quantum Energy Solutions I will check it out. Thanks. Since winter is setting in once again so the work days are getting shorter. That means more time inside to experiment
Awesome!! The amperage on crystal cells is very impressive! Thank you for sharing the video. We are living in a time of technological suppression.. but that time is coming to an end.
If you pick up a 3/4" wire brush for cleaning copper fittings. Trim it down to fit the I.D. of the tubing. Then scratch grooves on the inside of the pipe to create greater surface area. Similarly deep grooves on the magnesium will increase surface area too.
It will not make a huge difference, but every little bit helps.
Must be in alot of pressure for a good voltage..but the anode gets break a part Quickly
First I want to thank you for sharing your video and knowledge with the world.
As a 'prepper' I am very interested in the process but need to ask some questions.
1) How long can the batteries last (shelf life) with no load on them?
2) Can any of the materials be re-used when a cell goes dead? Like the copper and magnesium.....
3) Have you considered selling 'kits' of raw materials to guys like me who do not have good source for some of those materials?
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Now, as a former electrical engineer who uses those import jumper wires all the time, I can tell you that you are probably not getting accurate short circuit current readings due to the resistance in the wire the jumpers are made from. They are ok to about 200 Ma., but if you are trying to measure short circuit currents significantly more than 200 Ma; (like 1 ampere or more), the battery may be capable of sourcing an ampere or more and being limited by the voltage loss caused by the resistance in the jumper wires.and causing you to get a reading of only 700 Ma...
To test this for yourself, take a reading with only two jumper wires, and then take another reading without any jumper wires at all, using the meter probes only.
Regards,
Dennis O.
what is the weight of your battery that is the one that is about a third of an amp 1.5 volts.
My experience with wire clamps is that they can restrict the current flows. You should solder all the connections to a good switch that is meant to handle up to 10 Amps. then measure the batterys flows.
Congratulation!! You discovered an electro-corrosion. The same technique is used for ages by shipyards to protect big steel ships from corrosion The chemistry is slightly different Steel+Magnesium+Salty water+Cooper but the idea is the same. To answer the question how much does this battery last... well until Magnesium "dissolve"-corrode itself. That could be up to a year or two!!!!
So don't run to the patent office yet!! Cheers
how long is the battery life
Ok never mind I see my mistake. Thanks keep expanding on your experiment can't wait to see more.
Excellent work. Love the videos and the knowledge.
Thank you. My plane is to combine these with a homemade super cap and a 3D printed desktop lamp. To make a source of light for life by only adding water.
I have spent months researching into battery reconditioning and found an awesome website at Magic Mender Wizard (google it if you are interested)
have you tried urea?
+Gary DePietro I have left these on a joule ringer powering three 10 mm LEDs for days and days on end. although if the load is to big let's say over 300ma they will eventually not supply enough to light the led. but then again just disconnect them from the load. let em sit over night, re-hook em and off they go. if you match the load to the cells impedance they just keep going. at first the led will be very very bright. but after let's say 12 hours the light will be alot dimmer. but will remain lit. after they dim just let em sit for a day and bam right back to full bright. this set in this video has been sitting in a box for almost a year now unused. sometime this summer I'll pulled back out and see how strong they are
can it be flat ? i mean between a copper foil and magnesium foil or plate
Great Job. What would you suspect the highest obtainable volts/amps would be? Thanks or sharing. May God give you strength to learn more.
Best crystal battery vid so far. Good job sir
what it is? perpetual free energy?
will probably last as long as the materials , if water is bubbling magnesium is burning
Wow! This is very innovative. More success to you man.
This is such a hype, never managed to build due to Mg being dangerous, theoretically, but inspired me into studying a lot of stuff about batteries. Oh, and please, share the song names!
Wow! very nice work, a lot of work, thanks for sharing
+Steve Allwest Any time :)
What would be fantastic, is if you could put a small load on the battery that draws maybe 100mA , then also measure the voltage over that period of test. Leave it till the voltage drops below say 70% of full voltage. or even 50% . This way you can measure the true power in watts that it has delivered. Then let it recharge and do it again. Then you have a valid comparison of this type of battery to a standard battery. If you prefer to use a pulsed load, perhaps use a 50% pulsed load. That way its easy to calculate the power based on 50% supply.
Great job on the video. Thanks.
Lovely work
Hi, do you have recipe with recipe/ratio and ingredients for your crystal batteries..??
best regards
Thomas
I want to make some of these with Quartz dust to see if that will effect the output.
Hello, Have you done any ?
I tried that and mixed galena and different quartz and iron pyrite. I made like 50 but wiring them was a bitch. But I definetaly comvinced you can wire a house in a fraction of the space. Solar panels take alot of space and these you can make tiny and dont need sun. In a solar panel configuration with them charging a power supply I absolutely think you can power a small cabin and more if youre dedicated and can find a smart way to make them to stack them up and multiply the voltages and amperages easily
Curious if you put anything on the bottom of the cells to hold the alum in? Or did you let it harden first after the first watering and its holding itself in?
Also would love to see a follow up video in a month showing where these cells settle at. All of mine no matter what have always settled around 30mA. I've never tried using iron pyrite though.
Thanks for posting this man! :)
Just a few drops on the top then let it sit for a few. Then I flipped them over real fast like, some of the mix fall out so I added a lil more till it was full then a few drops of water and bam your good. As for a follow up vid that is already planed. I'm going to go over all the different cells I have made. You are right most of the ones with different mixes fall of right to 30ma. Thanks for the comment
I wanna make a whole room with huge banks of these and hook ‘em up to my 48 volt inverter xD
How long did these cells put out 1 Amp of power?
congrate my friend..this is the future of energy ..QUARTZ generator ..
+DEVIS&MARIOS Thanks. Im working on some home made super caps to store the energy when not in use. This will allow me to power heaver loads. The cells seem to have leveled off now so ill be posting an update video in a week or so. I'll go over all the different cells I've made. thanks for the comment
Did you do anything else with the battery experiment's or was a one time only ?
Do you think power density is enough to power a tiny drone with a few LEDs?
BTW, for running a electric driller you would need something like ... just a few thousand of this! Good job!!!
How many thousands do you think 2, 3 or more?
Do you need the to add purifed water....? or can I us tap water....? how often do I need 2 use the water....? looks like leakege....where does it go....? Great reseach and devlopment....however hydrogen gas....?
Hello. Great Video. ^^
Any news about you crystal batteries? Did you make new ones?
Maybe you could make an update video and more videos about this.
Thanks, i really appreciate that. ^^
Greetings from austria,
Michael
can you test the difference between fired copper with iron and without iron? Also have you tried epsom salts? John Bedini has good results on his channel, Energex..
have you tried a bigger mass of copper a thick walled pipe?
if you put it up in the air does it put out more voltage?amperage?
ideas from tesla patents.
3/4 inch copper pipe and 5/8 inch mag rod inside, gives you 1/16 inch space inside to put the screw and the solution. You can barely fit a toothpick inside that much space. Your screw must have a very small thin head.
The question is, how long will the battery last and is it rechargeable?
It should in theory last forever- it doesn't need to be recharged as it draws power from thermal energy. Alum only mixtures show little to no signs of corrosion which is the only possible way these cells could fail.
nice video, your method to get Cu2O is great, thx for sharing!
You are welcome.
+BackRoom Labs Hey, have your crystal cells show any degradation or you see the crystals pushing up the magneism?
+Alex no these cells stay put. The crystals do grow out of the top and bottom so once a month or so I just scrape off the excess. I a little cream of tartar is added the crystal growth will almost stop. In the cells that I have made with multiple ingredients the magnesium has been attacked pretty bad. But any of the alum only cells there are no visible signs. Maybe under a microscope but at that rate who cares.
+BackRoom Labs Thanks for the quick reply! I just made some Rochelle salts and is planning to make a couple of crystal cells that are similar to the John Hutchison's method as I wasn't keen on the crystal growth from the alum-method because I would like them to literally last forever and not only a couple of years before the magnesium rod has been pushed out. Sorry for the long sentence haha. However, after you mention that a little cream of tartar will inhibit much of the alum-method crystal cell growth, how much do you reckon I should add into the alum-method mix to prevent any sort of growth? Your alum-method is a much cheaper alternative to making crystal cells than John Hutchison's method as making Rochelle salts is expensive due to the cream of tartar being quite expensive for the amount you get.
I read abour rochelle salt and epsom salt I wonder if you could use maybe iron and nickel and copper sulfates instead of alum?
You voltage on your multi meter isn't constant. This means the degradation of power, and the battery will not hold very long.
That's a pretty quick voltage drop. Reminded me of a capacitor more than a battery. The cell probably builds up an internal charge (maybe a buildup of a specific chemical or ion) which he depletes faster than the battery replinishes it.
I'd love to see a long term test to see how long it lasts and what output it settles at. At least a few days straight of discharge if the cell can last that long. We need a discharge curve.
@@ancapftw9113 I made it John hutchison method the ingredients last for ever base on electric memory n petrol electrical effects but the problem is an anode..I tried so many type of alloys as an anode but they quickly lose their sort of ability...magnesium was eaten off in 3 days ...
How long will these continue giving out power?
Thank you for the video and research. I agree this is a crystal cell and not a chemical cell. I did not observe a heating process for the crystal, is this a cold build? You just used a dry (room temperature) mixture and added water; is that correct? You did not melt the mixture?
Thanks Myk
how long they lasting
Impressive stuff. You said you stuck thin wires while stuffing the battery. What if you wound insulated wires through it? Would those copper wires generate some voltage? Like a transformer effect?
Probably not. Transformers require alternating current. A thin sheet of paper might help keep the magnesium from touching the copper though. If you did do that though with the copper it might have a reasonable inductance built into it so it would produce a voltage spike every time it was disconnected.
Thanks for your sharing. Am I missing something or did you just assume that I would know if you cooked the crystals. It appears that you just added the powdered crystals and added a little water for a boost?
Once again thank you for sharing your knowledge.
yup it's really that simple. no heating required no cooking just add water and the alum, the copper and, magnesium
+cosh row negative these cells are way to heavy. also the power density is no where near what is needed to power and aircraft motor.
Great system! How much batteries will need to power a 120watts led lamp?
Instead of using a Joule Thief circuit, have you tried hooking up one of those upconverters that boost from 0.9v-5v and outputs to 5v usb?
So these reactivate with a couple of drops of distilled water? I could not tell if your version has a copper cap on the bottom or if you simply pack it as an open tube and let packing material harden in it....
I saw some people use the copper and magnesium rod. But instead of only Alum powder they use a mix of Borax (yes the powder), Epsom Salt, potassium chloride, and
Alum in equal parts. Then there would be no addition of water needed. The 'battery' charges itself by unplugging it for a short time. Have you experienced this ?
what is the measurement of ingredients? how much water do you add when the cells are dead? thanks
Brasso on a wrag will do a better job of cleaning that copper than sand paper. Easier too.
I see it's a very special Battery. Saw video's from John Bedini.
Still have a question. It doesn't use the Copper. It doesn't solve the magnesium. Does it only use the water or also the Alum ?
how long do they last powering a fan for example? half amp will easily charge a phone battery at 4volts
Hi. your innovations are great! I have a question, the Electrolyte is only aluminum with pyrite of Fe? And the booax? greetings from Argentina
I also built them recently. I could not get pyrite and borax yet. So I have tried with Alum salt and Potassium chloride mix. With the dry smashed mix, it gives me 1.95 Volts. Bt I am not happy with amperage. However, I will test different versions as soon as pyrite and borax came.
Magnaxium solt water battery magnzium dissapper lator so this bettery not last hoever but good for less than one month or less tgan one week? My salt water battery lasted about one week till magnazim dissapired
does the powders put into the cell get expended, or just the water?? this will sound odd, but with your setup i think you could dunk them in water and they will still work? also does one of the metals get eroded?
I don't get it one cell produced nearly half an amp. Five in parallel should be five times that. what do I have wrong?
Do you know jhon hutchinson cell ingredients?
Excellent work , I will try some of these. Have you tried using iron oxide instead of the pyrite? Just a thought I might try that, also have you tried to charge the cells? Thanks for the video, its great.
+Ed Lovvorn in the future I am going to try some more lets say exotic mixes. look for John Bedini earth light forum about crystal batteries. it is a very long read. It took me several evenings to shift through all the info. at the end john was able to produce a single cell that help 1 amp on a dead short. the mix wasn't exactly disclosed. but there is enough that I think I can get close. stuff gets a little spendy though. try a test cell with the oxide against others and see what is best.
I bought some iron oxide and I will try it tomorrow . Thx
+Ed Lovvorn I tried the iron oxide and found that it does not help in my case. I probably need to try different combinations.
how long do these crystals last? I don't want to have to water a battery everyday and I don't want it to die over night either.Any thoughts on making enough of these to be able to charge a 12v car battery... store your energy there, then run what you need from the car battery, use an inverter with the battery if needed.
Got to try them. Could enough be left in the boot of an electric car charging the cars batteries?
This looks awesome! I did some reading on these, and it looks like they use the piezoelectric effect of ambient heat/etc. to generate electricity. How long have you gotten them to last???
you are correct. the hotter they are the more amperage they will supply. although I have frozen them and they still output power thought not near as much.
Honestly to the date today they look exactly the same as the day I made them everyone says that they consume the Magnesium but if you use Alum only and no other salts the Magnesium stays intact
can i use aluminium instead of magnesium?.. please say
yes you can although voltage and power output will be less
@@1billyknorr have unlimited energy or how long have energy ,? Pls cn u reply ?
Can you please list the name in writing of those ingredience that u mix up to become crystal so I can go buy at store or order ebay cheaper ? and the stick thing in the middle. Saw someone on youtube use Galvanize screw. is that ok or less power? thanks a lot
a good job!
very cool!
Ever let it set over a powerful magnet?
We don't know if it was the heating of the copper pipe or the pyrite causing the increase......maybe both .....maybe not. I would like to know..
How long do they last?
Interesting Magnesium Depletion cell but please consider reposting without the noize.
Does this one work, there are so many designs and i want to make one that works. Does it never need to be charged?
How long does the battery last?
Is this battery rechargable?
Its not like a chemical battery. This type of cell splits water into hydrogen and oxygen. The spliting of the h2o creats the power. But initially the power output is pretty strong as the reactions taking place use the magnesium as a sacrificial metal. Once the layer of corrosion has covered the magnesium the power will drop off and then just use the water to convert into energy once you add the water to the cell when they're new you can actually hear it Sizzle a little bit that's the water converting into its two basic elements
I'm thinking of a design, first nano coat both anode and cathode, either (bedini or keshe) Then a layer of graphene oxide, then thin layer of mixed gans,, then thin layer of liquid glass, then crystal recipe, in between.
I became diverted by 'Roberts super cap, and I made a little one that seems to work better than a triple A battery but a 15 sec charge will run a small 20ma motor for about 45sec. When I scale it up I cant get it to show the same power, so I must be doing something wrong. My question is, do you have any updates to your crystal cells? Thanks
Lol I have been messing with the super caps to. I have had some success. My issue is the binder for the ink. I'm getting close. Hopefully this weekend I'll have something to post a vid about. As far as an update on the cells. In the next weeks or so I'll post an update with all the different cells I have made. Some are around 2 years old and still working.
I melted styrofoam with acetone and it drys with a porous plastic film. elmers glue and water works to.
+Ed Lovvorn i was going to try styrofoam. I have some polystyrene I'll try that this weekend. I have the PVA "elemers glue" I tried robert smiths recommendation of 5 to 10% binder to active material. It didn't bond to the aluminum foil to well. I'm Gona try and up the % and see what happens. Thanks for the info.
try putting the aluminium foil on a hot plate and applying the pva water solution . It sticks a little better
I also made a new crystal cell mixture today. It is very unconventional from the existing mixtures everyone does. Using magnesium and copper electrodes, It has been running a small drone motor for about 4 hours so far and still going strong. Once it stops I will try to recharge it with a power supply and I will check for corrosion on the electrodes. I will give an update and what the chemicals are. O by the way the electrodes are just bigger than a mail stamp.
it can recharge or not or it single use only
fail!! a crystal battery does not include a watering process, it completely invalidates any findings when you introduce an electrolyte.
Put magnets to sides )
Why not use copper sulfate (zep root kill) a great electrolyte that I'd assume would only enhance your output
Wouldn't you get more current with a wetter mixture?
This is a really good video. However, am I missing something or is this just a regular battery? Isn't this just electrolysis of metals, using the water and alum as the electrolyte, moving electrons from one metal to the other, and destroying the surface of one metal in the process? This is what happens when you take any 2 dissimilar metals and put them in a conductive fluid. One metal gets destroyed as it donates electrons, and electroplates the other nearby metal. The same thing can be done by taking 2 dissimilar metals and sticking them into the side of a Lemon. This forms a standard battery. I don't know how a real crystal battery works, so that is why I am asking?
supermuble I have the same question...
bingo
Its just a chemical battery. Not a crystal cell.
I'm new to this tech., but I think the reason they call them crystal batteries is because the solution inside eventually crystallizes. I think you are correct in saying this is not a real crystal battery. I think botwire is right this seems to be a chemical reaction that makes the power, as soon as the water evaporates no more power. The real crystal battery videos I have seen have cells that have been operating for years. Good video though, I like the building technique advice.
I sure do appreciate it when someone finally comes along and says so simply and understandably, what so many others cant seem to help but representing as so complex and perplexing, and all in less than a paragraph...👍
Is it cheaper to make than lithium and is the power capacity comparable?
the power density isn't even close to lithium ion. although. a lithium battery needs recharged. by another power source. as to the crystal cell ad far as anyone knows this particular type is not a galvanic reaction. that being said these little puppy's might be able to output power for 5 maybe 10 year or even 50. so if you add up that output of its entire life the numbers would be insane. these cells are better used in a pulsed type of usage. setup would be to deliver power for let's say on for 1/2 a second off for a full second and so on. they act source of like a self charging capacitor.
BackRoom Labs So, you cannot compare apple with bananas
This is not a crystal battery....It is a magnesium copper battery...Your salts absorb humidity in the air to stay wet, essentially turning your salts into the electrolyte...The power is being derived from the magnesium....
So without watering daily no 2v?
It wont maintain 2 volts. It will settle in to stable voltage lower than 2v. Something like 1.7 or so. You can over wet the crystal. Causeing voltage and power output to sag. If found better output the warmer the cell. Also helps to let it dry out sometimes. You can use if for a month put it on a shelf for 6 months. Pull it out, wet the crystal and its outputting power.
@@1billyknorr I find it's not much use if you have to vet it have you tried to heat the alum it bubbles.. and did you try mix with Epsom potassium chloride and borax?
whats the smallest that you can make this like , bullet size? make a NANO version , as small as you can to see if you can push at least half amp at 5 volts :D
"alum"
What type of alum? Thanks!
"Potassium Aluminum Sulfate" KAlSO4
will a crystal battery power a camera circut? 1.5v
Can you give an idea of how long these last?
+WorkFreeWizard as far as anyone knows these should last for 10, 20 years.....whit the alum only cells the magnesium in some that are over a year shows almost no signs of corrosion. In a few weeks im going to post a new vid going over the different cells I have made.
+BackRoom Labs that's awesome. very interested. thanks for responding.
Actually, the Idea of the crystal cells to be dry. But you spoiled with water? :) It won`t long last weeks.
I’ve seen baked cells work. They bake it to remove the water…
what is in the borax and allume? as in the active ingredients
borax is a mineral used as a detergent or detergent additive. One good use is pest control. Insects with an exoskeleton... the borax works into there joints and eventually cuts in the none protected areas under the hard outer shell. Borax, also known as sodium borate, sodium tetraborate, or disodium tetraborate, is an important boron compound, a mineral, and a salt of boric acid. Powdered borax is white, consisting of soft colorless crystals that dissolve easily in water. As for the alum it is potassium alum, which is the hydrated form of potassium aluminum sulfate and has the chemical formula KAl(SO4)2·12H2O. You can see the compound is considered a hydrate with 12 molecules of water (H20) this aides in the cells conductivity within the crystal structure. Potassium alum is a fine white powder that you can find sold with kitchen spices or pickling ingredients. All in all the borax is not needed for this to work. All the cells I made with borax are destroyers of the magnesium. Magnesium is the scrafical metal in these cells. So the idea is to drastically reduce if not eliminate this reaction without decreasing power output. Best results were found by using alum only for the crystal. Look at some of my other crystal battery vids. there are some other doping agents I want to try. these aid in increased power higher amps, neat stuff
Hello, are referring to Diatomaceous Earth, which is very hard shells of Silica made from Diatoms in the ancient lakes which have now dried up. These shells of ancient Diatom creatures are collected, and this is what is sold as "Ditomaceous Earth" which is literally miniature pieces of silica shells, which is known to cut up and kill small animals such as ants, and fleas when they get the shells on them. Borax works because Boric acid is toxic to microorganisms, and in other countries they use Boric acid as a food preservative.
It's not a crystal power cell if it has a chemical reaction! You have made a saltwater battery between the magnesium & copper!
All crystal cells use up the materials via chemical reactions. Some just do it slow enough that it's hard to notice.
@@ancapftw9113 Harry Robinson You have not done your homework; the "Crystal Power Cell" was invented by a man named John Hutchison after he discovered a Free Energy effect in Piezo ceramics and other crystals. It is called fero-electricity by mainstream science. This must be picked up by other researchers!
@@bardrick4220 I'm assuming that you are referring to using ferroelectric materials for energy harvesting. Or maybe the fact that they are Piezoelectric too.
If you are using the term "free energy" to mean energy that exists and can be collected, then sure, ferroelectric materials can be used to make "free energy" devices.
@@ancapftw9113 Piezo and pyroelectricity are side effects of these materials. Barium titanate was the original material, and the video is still available on John Hutchison's UA-cam channel.
I suspect Zero Point Energy (or Dark Energy); something like a molecular Quantum Tunnel Diode, but it is not well understood!
I have replicated the results: obtain a pezio ceramic, charge it with a battery to align the domains (polarity sensitve), discharge by shorting leads, repeat discharging indefinitely approximately once per min. The ceramic emmits a clicking sound every time the leads are shorted!
Hi BackRoom Labs, I really like your video. The way you built that is amazing! I made a battery using 10 soda cans wired in series, could I get your feedback on my Soda Can Battery video? Maybe we could work on a project together in the future, sending each other video clips or referring to each-others channels? Thank you!
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Bubbling because of heat makes me think that you can use that for another source of electric also
Never mind I guess I should continue to watch the video
its really hard to find magnesium in my place where could i possibly find magnesium ?
the place is called gallium source. decent prices very reliable delivery just type that in a Google search
can i possibly find magnesium in my area just for free ? can i possibly find that on scraps?
@@markcabrera465 Try to find it as an anode of the water boilers. It is used in there to prevent the tens corrosion.
Any one tell me where van i fond pieces or rod of magnisium wich old material? Thanks for sharing.i m from algeria.
Usually used inside the water boiler tanks as an anode rod to prevent corrosion.
is it still running now?
100% yes they are no magnesium degradation whatsoever I'll do an update video soon
Not to be a party pooper, but you made a chemical battery based upon the galvanic reaction between two dissimilar metals (magnesium being particularly reactive) by incorporating an electrolyte medium (salt) between them. I bet you find the magnesium cathode eroding away too as it gives up its electrons aka the source of your power. No free energy from doped power crystals in this. If you get your electrolyte solution more efficient, you could see a voltage theoretically of up to 2.69 volts or so per cell. Reactivity of copper (.34 volts) added to reactivity of magnesium (2.35 volts) in a proper salt dielectric would be 2.69 volts. There are other versions of this type of "crystal power" source out there readily available; Duracell, Energizer and EverReady as examples. Now if these cells you made are somehow powering that fan for months on end and not just days... you may then have something. The magical "boost" I see people doing to "activate" their "crystal batteries" is simply recharging them, aka reversing the chemical process. Also increases the efficiency of the interface between the two dissimilar metals (removes the oxide layer) making the battery more efficient.
problem is that these cells are well over a year old and the magnesium is still 99 percent intact. the inital pitting happens within a few days. the power output falls in this initail pitting time then has been consistant ever since. ill post a follow up vid in a few months
Well then maybe you can explain to me why I sent your post 10 months ago you state that I'm going to consume magnesium whereas there has been no magnesium consumption whatsoever any other cell that I made that used any other type of salt other than album the cell corroded and was dead within four to five months 8 months at the most
+BackRoom - so has it been spinning that fan all the while?
when i made mine i only used molten salts no water added gave them a charge once they had hardened and they stay at the 1.4v mark consistently and are powerful enough to power a whole set of led garden lights flashing on/off for long period of time.. i think adding water just makes this a normal battery apposed to a true crystal cell.. yes these will last a while but vs a solid state crystal cell these ones would not. i get lower amps but longevity is better @@lappansommer546
@@badsaddamdotnet - depends. some say - no oxidation or material deterioration despite water .
Why does one cell produce .36 amps and 8 cells produce .7 amps shouldn't 8 cells produce a lot more? I'm a noob at this
do same in a 44 gall drum..
That What Im Saying
Liked the video other than the music.
Msybe You have a hybrid cell, when dry,a crystal cell low amps, when wet, I promise your mag is getting eaten,
I made a battery with only mag ribbon alum/water, copper,
Got 1. 7v each, 2 cells in series ran a small 6v motor very well for about an hour, bubbled a lot, then it died when the alum totally dissolved the mag ribbon!
Quantum Energy Solutions . Problem with the ribbon is it's purity. It's cheap. You need 99.98 or better pure magnesium. Also the red copper is essential. It creates a semi conductor layer. It's been long enough I'll have to cut one open and show the difference.
BackRoom Labs I'm aware of John Bedini was redding the copper, have you done comparisons doing a Keshe coating? Search nano coating capper Keshe plasma. Yup mag ribbon is unpure, and as in litmotors alum, mag, crystal cell lasted for years, at low steady output.
The holy Grail will be high output and zero degrading. We will get there for sure.
BackRoom Labs and could add some activated carbon as well!
Quantum Energy Solutions I will check it out. Thanks. Since winter is setting in once again so the work days are getting shorter. That means more time inside to experiment
Nice but I don't like the music playing young fellow because I am trying to hear you speak. You'll understand when you get to be in your 60's ✌️
I think I heard red dwarf in the back ground
Can:t hear a thing over the music.