Honestly, people that are complaining forget were we come... Two years ago, this level of modeling (neural, profiling or circuit) was way above 1kUSD.. Now we have ToneX, Nano Cortex, NAM player, Kemper player and so many more... Then it is good to acknowledge that great tone has never been so easy and affordable to get. The rest is a question of personnal perferences/use case/budget. Great review as usual. Love to see a good product based on open source tech.
For people hung up on the lack of a drive block in the Nano, why wouldn’t you just do another capture of your amp WITH the drive pedal engaged and save THAT as another preset? It’s not like you can only save a single capture and you’re stuck with it. Think outside the box a bit, people………
Yes, you can certainly do that. I'm going to do a test to see how good those types of captures are compared to a capture of a regular amp that is boosted by a capture of the same pedal.
@@TONEWARSgearshow Cool!! I’d be interested to see how that works! I received my Nano yesterday so I could get into the capture game, but just couldn’t stomach the $1,800 for the Quad Cortex as it’s just more than I need. The Tonex was intriguing, but the horror stories regarding the capture process and app management kept me away. I have lots of cool vintage tube preamps I want to incorporate into a simple pedalboard and the Nano should do nicely……I hope. 🤞
The moment you add a boost in front of a high-gain amp, you'll find out that Neural Capture has a hard time accurately profiling that chain. Boost pedals add noise as well as harmonic content; the more of these you have, the harder it'll be for the profile to turn out right & given that you can't extend the Neural Capture training time, it'll be very hard to get a profile that replicates your setup to a satisfying degree of fidelity.
Put simply, an epoch is one training "run" for your neural-network / profile. The neural network you're training is fed a chunk of your input (DI signal) and tasked with producing the output that would sound like your amp. That produced output is compared to the chunk of the actual "wet" signal (amp, pedal etc) and the delta between the 2 is that "error-to-signal" ratio. It then tweaks its internal parameters (weights) and goes at it again. 1 epoch is comparing the entire input DI signal against the entire wet (reamped) signal.
I literally did a video a couple days ago on my channel doing this very thing in theory. I took multiple captures for instance a revival drive capture going into a capture of a clean Mesa amp on my QC and captured that with the Nano Cortex to get it down to one capture and it worked great. I’ve done more captures of overdrive pedals going into the Quad Cortex using an amp model and captured that as well and it’s great! The possibilities are really unlimited in terms of capturing signal chains including multiple pedals and / or amps. Great video as always Arnold 😉 Now GET IN DA CHOPPPAH!
So here’s my opinion on it. Basically, I think they should have just put all of their plug-ins in this kind of pedal platform. To me There plug-ins sound the best even over their modeling on the quad cortex. If you had a unit with just their plug-ins and the ability to control all the effects of those plug-ins at your feet That would’ve been awesome. And most people don’t have 10 to 15 Amps to model but if you do, this is a great unit to have. And even though you have access to modeled amps from other users, I still think their plug-ins that they captured are the best sounds they have to offer! In my humble opinion a pedal unit of just the plug-ins is what I wish of they would have came out with! Who knows maybe in the future.
Thanks for commenting. I don't know if plugins would work in this because they would have too many effects for this unit to utilize. It only has so many effects slots. But like you said, maybe they can fix that in the future. I appreciate your input
@@TONEWARSgearshow yeah very true probably wouldn’t work in this unit, but even just having the amp plug-in itself with no effects would be killer. Especially the Gojira amp, the plug-in version of that sounds amazing. In my opinion. Love your channel man great content.
Thank you so much. I've always been kind of a goofball. I usually play it pretty straight on the channel but I might as well start Cutting Loose every once in awhile LOL
For the Nano to NOT have an FX loop is just the dumbest shit ever. On top of a few other things it doesn’t have, it’s basically a stupid $500 device. They’re expecting everyone who buys it would only use it to clone their own gear. DUMB move. In my opinion it’s almost useless for the vast majority of ppl. And it’s completely useless for a touring/gigging guitarist.
arnold is amazing. kinda a miss.Nam player has an old school 80s look. doesnt matter really i suppose but no computer editor or phone app is kinda miss.
The Dime Head NAM Player looks ugly. The knobs kook too close to the edge. It need a redesign. The Nano is unfinished and designed to extract money from the weak people.
Honestly, people that are complaining forget were we come... Two years ago, this level of modeling (neural, profiling or circuit) was way above 1kUSD.. Now we have ToneX, Nano Cortex, NAM player, Kemper player and so many more... Then it is good to acknowledge that great tone has never been so easy and affordable to get. The rest is a question of personnal perferences/use case/budget. Great review as usual. Love to see a good product based on open source tech.
I got my NAM player during the second batch shipment and with the new firmware update it's so awesome!!!
The Dimehead has a verified 0.5 ms latency.... Absolutely bonkers good
For people hung up on the lack of a drive block in the Nano, why wouldn’t you just do another capture of your amp WITH the drive pedal engaged and save THAT as another preset? It’s not like you can only save a single capture and you’re stuck with it. Think outside the box a bit, people………
That is how I profile... Preamp + fx in front (boost, compressor, that kind of stuff) + eq after the preamp.
Yes, you can certainly do that. I'm going to do a test to see how good those types of captures are compared to a capture of a regular amp that is boosted by a capture of the same pedal.
@@TONEWARSgearshow Cool!! I’d be interested to see how that works! I received my Nano yesterday so I could get into the capture game, but just couldn’t stomach the $1,800 for the Quad Cortex as it’s just more than I need. The Tonex was intriguing, but the horror stories regarding the capture process and app management kept me away. I have lots of cool vintage tube preamps I want to incorporate into a simple pedalboard and the Nano should do nicely……I hope. 🤞
The moment you add a boost in front of a high-gain amp, you'll find out that Neural Capture has a hard time accurately profiling that chain. Boost pedals add noise as well as harmonic content; the more of these you have, the harder it'll be for the profile to turn out right & given that you can't extend the Neural Capture training time, it'll be very hard to get a profile that replicates your setup to a satisfying degree of fidelity.
@@TONEWARSgearshowpleaseeee
Put simply, an epoch is one training "run" for your neural-network / profile.
The neural network you're training is fed a chunk of your input (DI signal) and tasked with producing the output that would sound like your amp.
That produced output is compared to the chunk of the actual "wet" signal (amp, pedal etc) and the delta between the 2 is that "error-to-signal" ratio. It then tweaks its internal parameters (weights) and goes at it again.
1 epoch is comparing the entire input DI signal against the entire wet (reamped) signal.
The Nam player looks an more importantly sounds amazing. I can’t wait to receive mine
Dude, no excuses are necessary. The Dime Head for the win. It''s already everything the Nano Cortex should have been!
The Arnold accent is PERFECT! Definitely one of my fav episodes! Cheers!
I literally did a video a couple days ago on my channel doing this very thing in theory. I took multiple captures for instance a revival drive capture going into a capture of a clean Mesa amp on my QC and captured that with the Nano Cortex to get it down to one capture and it worked great. I’ve done more captures of overdrive pedals going into the Quad Cortex using an amp model and captured that as well and it’s great! The possibilities are really unlimited in terms of capturing signal chains including multiple pedals and / or amps. Great video as always Arnold 😉 Now GET IN DA CHOPPPAH!
Thanks for commenting. I can't wait to do some more experiments with all of that for myself as well. I appreciate the information.
@@TONEWARSgearshow Yeah man! Cant wait to see how it goes for you! 🤘🏼
So here’s my opinion on it. Basically, I think they should have just put all of their plug-ins in this kind of pedal platform. To me There plug-ins sound the best even over their modeling on the quad cortex. If you had a unit with just their plug-ins and the ability to control all the effects of those plug-ins at your feet That would’ve been awesome. And most people don’t have 10 to 15 Amps to model but if you do, this is a great unit to have. And even though you have access to modeled amps from other users, I still think their plug-ins that they captured are the best sounds they have to offer! In my humble opinion a pedal unit of just the plug-ins is what I wish of they would have came out with! Who knows maybe in the future.
Thanks for commenting. I don't know if plugins would work in this because they would have too many effects for this unit to utilize. It only has so many effects slots. But like you said, maybe they can fix that in the future. I appreciate your input
@@TONEWARSgearshow yeah very true probably wouldn’t work in this unit, but even just having the amp plug-in itself with no effects would be killer. Especially the Gojira amp, the plug-in version of that sounds amazing. In my opinion. Love your channel man great content.
i think you've discovered your comedic talents. I approve😂😂😂
Thank you so much. I've always been kind of a goofball. I usually play it pretty straight on the channel but I might as well start Cutting Loose every once in awhile LOL
Attention - bad joke is coming: Cat is wondering if it also can cature!😁
Haha
🤣
Had the cortex was ok. Still have my Kemper. Bought the Nam player is just head and shoulders better
Don't overdo it with the Intros. :D
"Get to the Capture!" Loved the intro! Best Regards and Best Wishes!
I’m totally after one of these. Sick playing brotha!
So the FX Loop is the stereo out, but then you're stuck with the XLR out....
I’m pretty sure Neural will fix this in an update
Spot on Arnold impression!
Is the Nam pedal even out yet?
I haven’t seen on any sites?
I love my nano I don’t know what’s the issue
Dude that was hilarious. Spot on imitation!!!!!!
That Splawn sounds great! Cheers!
Great video amazing playing you always deliver 😊
Thank you so much 😃
So, the UA-cam collective are basically running R&D for Neural.
Hey Arnold, it sounds Great
Great tone, and playing
Thank you!
Things ain’t cheap!
Ya ya October is around the co October fest is Wunder bar
Come on man, how can we trust your review when you’re not even sporting a mullet? Hehe, great video.
Haha
Awesome playing man...
Thank you!
Omg lmfao absolutely the best video lol
Keep making videos
Bunch a whiners! They whine about everything no matter what it is.
Great video
Point on! 👍👍👍
After watching this , I'LL BE BACK .
Haha, GET TO THE CHOPPA!
Your fruit voice is very genuine sounding lol
Haha
Where's kira???
Kari?
For the Nano to NOT have an FX loop is just the dumbest shit ever. On top of a few other things it doesn’t have, it’s basically a stupid $500 device. They’re expecting everyone who buys it would only use it to clone their own gear. DUMB move. In my opinion it’s almost useless for the vast majority of ppl. And it’s completely useless for a touring/gigging guitarist.
Perfect schwarzenegger voice😂
its easy to put a overdrive in front no big deal i always use drive pedal that i own anyway and what you expect for 550
Lol great intro
Arnold 😂
arnold is amazing. kinda a miss.Nam player has an old school 80s look. doesnt matter really i suppose but no computer editor or phone app is kinda miss.
I'm glad you like Arnold lol. That's why it's so nice to have all these different products out there. Now there's something for everyone.
@@TONEWARSgearshow it is great times to be a guitar player. Now ed to da choppa
This guy thinks he’s funny! So sad
The Dime Head NAM Player looks ugly. The knobs kook too close to the edge. It need a redesign. The Nano is unfinished and designed to extract money from the weak people.
😂 like my tubescreamer. The green looks so 70s
The dime head Is so ugly I will never spend 600 for that design.
You're one of those guys that plays with eyes. Do you obsess with guitar colours as well!? I bet you do.
@@milankotevski1663 That is called personal taste. I also think color and designs are VERY important. Beautiful guitars make me practice more often.