Off The Record: Why Can't We Use These Terms Anymore...?
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
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Special Thanks to Our Guest & Friend:
Kristin Farina
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Cast:
• Hosted by Anthony Lee
• Commentary by: Joe Jitsukawa, Ryanimay, Bart Kwan, Nick Dunn
• Edited by Candy Edits: www.candyedits.com
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As a gen Z, this is why I love watching JK. They're "aware" instead of being annoyingly "woke". They have respect for different social groups but still aren't afraid of cracking jokes here and there, even if it's dark. Because everyone knows they're only joking.
I love watching people who don't have to continuously give disclaimers because they're afraid of getting cancelled.
Ily JK! I've been watching since I was in middle school and I've now graduated from uni and working full-time!
Well said! Same here!
Same! Congratulations 🎉
The problem nowadays is just as Joe explained it: This new generation is so caught up in cancel-culture that they don't grasp the entire history of the issues they are supposedly "trying" to resolve. Instead of making any progress, they are essentially spinning their tires and leaving skid-marks expecting a shiny gold star for contributing to cancel-culture.
I saw a dumb discourse about how the term pansexual is transphobic. The older (millennials and older) ones in the lgbt space were like dafuk.
Doesn't mean millennials didn't have dumbass takes either. I remember seeing a post several years ago where someone said learning ASL is cultural appropriation lmao.
@@Vincisomething yeah, i agree. This cancel-culture was not created by this new generation, but rather amplified to an unecessary degree
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Everyday, 3 times a day ❤️
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I’ve been watching y’all since I was in middle school and now I’m an adult, still one of the most authentic channels around thank you for bringing a smile on my face during times like these 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼
I never really thought about how cultural sensitivity could impact small businesses in immigrant communities like that. They have a good point. So many people are hesitant to buy little trinkets and stuff which were once really popular items to sell to tourists
I'll speak as a black person I think the thing most people don't get about cultural appropriation is that
1)some parts of other people's cultures are purely sacred and if you are not a part of that culture it is the highest disrespect to engage in it.
2) some people love engaging in other people's culture while disrespecting and hitting the people whose cultures they participate in.
3) a lot of people fetishize other people's culture.
Personally for me if you're engaging in a culture that is not your own and you are not doing any of the three I don't have a problem with it go ahead have fun.
Of course you can't just pretend to be a buddhist monk all of a sudden but I'll say enjoy any culture you want. One of the coolest things I've seen is the Maori haka and I'm Scandinavian. If I try to learn it am I appreciating or appropriating? Some people can't differentiate cultural appropriation from cultural appreciation.
The guy who was playing the dude disguised as another dude gets a pass and could play Ironman and War Machine in one movie. Do you have a problem with that? Nate Diaz and Mike Perry gets the N-word pass too from black people.
This might be one of the only channel's where current topics that can cause severe arguments are taken and presented in a format that is so easy to digest and the 360° view is provided.
1.91 mil baby! Cannot believe you are almost at 2mil JKNews. Love this video. Great topic discussed too. And usually, I don't agree with many points in your videos. But in this one, agree with all of the points stated here.
Thank you Lizzzzzzz! :)
This episode has really good insightful discussions! love it!
Reminds me of Jeremy Lin where he had dreds and Rasheed Wallace told him it was cultural appropriation, Jeremy Lin called him out on his Chinese tattoo
was not Rasheed "Ball Dont Lie" Wallace. Kenyon Martin said that and that was dumb of him to say.
@@cjclark6153 Yeah. It was Kenyon Martin that made a big deal about it. The funny thing was, it was Jeremy Lin's teammates and Black hair stylist that suggested he do the dreads.
It was Kenyon Martin
In Korean Ni-Gah literally just means you. Ni-Gah Heh literally means you do it. I remember americans were going nuts when kpop was becoming more popular in the states.
I think Ryan's story the girl is Korean and was singing a Korean song. "Nega/niga" literally means "you/me" in Korean but people thought she was saying the American N word.
"Bureau of land management" 😭😭😭
Farina means "flour" in Italian, also used as a nickname for someone with a pale complexion. Very fitting for her.
In a lot of cases, the words that are currently considered to be impolite actually used to be the polite, preferred terms. For those who don't like the current set of polite terms, there's a solution that you yourself can put into practice today: start using the polite terms the way you'd normally use the impolite terms.
I don't understand the logic behind, "this race made this, so they have rights over all production or use of this". For sure you can't be disrespectful, but the only people who find this disrespectful like wearing Mexican Panchos are other races (not mexicans). It's, for example, white americans getting offended for hispanics and it's weird. Certain cultures find that it's sort of embracing if you wear what their culture wheres, but for some reason other people want to think it's an insult to the culture. It's usually obvious when someone does something disrespectful with disrespectful intentions.
Love the discussion and the whole vibe of everyone bouncing off eachother respectfully and joking around! Wish I my buds were more open minded to talk like this rather then "got into a fight bro cause he said sh** about me"... How does that relate to traditions & taboos? 😂
Joe makes some really good points. This was an interesting conversation.
Been here since i was literally 13 and im 19 Now i absolutely love how real you guys keep it and how funny yall are with no care
8:28 is like when Valkyrae got "canceled" for using AAVE. Aot of black people, including me, weren't even offended and thought people overreacted. The thing she said was
Fr fr no cap on a stack.
I blame her for apologizing…
"... I love Oreos..." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Ryan's face when he heard that 😂😂😂😂
The economic argument about cultural appropriation is even more ridiculous. Like Joe said, culture has value because people give it value, they buy he “merch” because they see value in it, same goes for hip-hop, etc.
In Cantonese “ni go” means “this”. I work in a Cuban Chinese restaurant and I’ve been asked why I said the N-word and I just explain have to explain it’s meaning in my own language. It’s hard to say, “this” order is for “this” person and getting misunderstood. But I notice no one asked me about it’s meaning for a long time because cultural diversity and understanding. Back in 2005 almost got into a fight just because I said “this order is for “this”person. 😅
canton isn't that bad nei guo, but mandarin when you say this multiple times it changes from na ge to nei ga (nigga).
Ah Korean too.
"Naega" it means Me/ I
@@hannah_rai178 I thought it means "you" in Korean
"We'll have a gay old time" Flintstones theme song
8:12 the girl was actually Japanese and she was singing a Korean song from kpop band called Treasure.
I was searching for this comment!! Was it Momo? I can't remember...
There are other moments from kpop idols as well like Giselle from Aspea just for mouthing the word I believe.
I've been to India and Dubai a few times now. My now wife wanted me to wear a traditional kurta pajama. I got nothing but love and excited from random people anytime I wore one. Sidenote they are the most comfortable and breezy clothes ever.
I like Kristin's voice. Very unique
Best advice if every one just takes it to heart “don’t be a dick”
The people crying out Culture Vulture probably eat Asian, Mexican, Indian food, etc. They probably watch anime,Korean dramas,Mexican novelas, etc They probably like spaghetti and meatballs or pizza. If we could not share our culture to anyone else, we would not have access to any of these amazing foods or shows! Next time you want to claim culture appropriation, when it’s not right to do so, think of all the great things we have obtained because other cultures decided to appreciate yours.
This reminds me of something David So said on an episode of send foodz. They were eating fried chicken and David remarked that a lot of the stereotypes about Black people liking fried chicken and watermelon applies to Koreans as well. Since Koreans also make amazing fried chicken and like eating watermelon. And very true about the different foods, etc. you mentioned.
Great episode and I had no idea the word Oriental which I haven't heard in forever, was racist against Asians.
I'm not from the US and I still don't understand why it is a racist word.
@@LaddRusso91 I didn't either until this episode
Talk more about this guys! This was super insightful and shows how stupid people have become in Black an Red flagging every little petty thing thinking they will ruin other cultures!
Agree. Also I feel like of all the people African Americans are very judgemental preaching people about black culture this that but when was the last time an African American won redbull BC one let alone a black person
Bay Area Christmas songs 😂😂😂 that probably went over a couple heads
Kristin ❤️
This content was awesome. I'd like to see more topics like this, honestly.
Just when he said "that's why he's world wide talking Chinese" got me 😂😂
All of them with there hands about there head 😂
Actual cultural appropriation is wrong, like white people “discovering” something that minorities have been using for thousands of years and acting like they just invented it, but I feel like now, 99% of things that people are labeling as cultural appropriation is not cultural appropriation at all. And there’s also like those really extreme people who are shame you for not being ___ enough. I’ve seen a few TikToks of Chinese Americans, for example, speaking Chinese and people are bashing their pronunciation and it’s like??? Are we gatekeeping Chinese Americans from speaking Chinese? How are we supposed to get better if we can’t practice?
What's an example of actual culture appropriation?
@@LaddRusso91 When people say Eminem invented his syllable rhyming style and disregard the factual evidence that Rakim influenced Em's style
The actual medical terminology is "developmentally delayed"
9:01 the equivalent of the Europeans colonizing the americas and saying to the native people “look at these guys they’re savages”
I was not prepared for 7:07 and i choked on my chipotle
Kristin said it right :)
I was curious and the word Gay changed meaning a lot. It meant happy then it changed to mean men having a lot of sex with women. It was also meant prostitution.
I'd like to flip Joe's Intention & Context on it's head.
The overarching context for most people nowadays, is that you can Google "is this offensive?" in the same amount of time to say it. Additionally, enough people have made honest mistakes that you can learn how to graciously apologize for using an offensive term.
If you deem it unworthy of the aforementioned effort, then you likely meant to cause offense anyway.
It's not hard to not be a dick, but it still takes effort.
Jk news Christmas carols 😂
Its so strange beacuse where i went to university there were so many asian grocery shops that had the word oriental in the name beacuse it wasnt seen as a bad word, the term asian was more used for India and south asia but i over heard an american student complaining about it
The way I understand it is that “oriental” itself is not a bad word when it is used to describe things such as shops or rugs and whatever else. But to use it to describe people is frowned upon. People should be referred to as “Asians” not “oriental.”
i knew exactly who kristin was talking abt
Does anyone notice all their arms were in the same position for awhile? Lol 😆
How you guys feel about the Spanish word Chino people use to call Asian’s???
Pretty sure not just Spanish speakers do this. In western countries if you have Asian features people definitely automatically assume "Chinese."
Cancel culture is out of control
I guess the problem is the gen z people (including myself) are in bubbles daily. You will see fucked up shit, you will experience these things, issues that you have to deal with. Coddling your child is probably the biggest issue and problem.
He isn’t talking about AESPA Giselle right? Cause she was singing and English song and she knows English.
In Korean neega/nega has a meaning too
Niga and naega mean you and I
@@DemonFox369 you wrote that word wrong. it has two "g". you need to edit your comment. don't worry I won't report you. promise
@@Dave_of_Mordor it only has one G
@@iscratchmybutt No, the first word in his sentence supposed to have two g's. You can spell it out too if you want. I won't report you. promise
@@Dave_of_Mordor I know you’re joking but ni-ga means you. There isn’t another g
wtf do people think clothes are made out of
Only Americanized asians think Oriental is a bad word. I'm asian and it still have the connotation of "Prestige".
The word oriental does sound cool.
The "culture of Earthworms "?"
I think they talked about the racist draft skit from The Chapelle Show before
Hermaphrodite is a misnomer about intersex. Also oriental is used to describe things not people which is partly why we don't call people that lol.
But I think if it's Asians naming something for themselves, they can use oriental.
I never knew about hermaphrodites until Southpark 😂
the arms🤣🤣
Words are just words.
in korean, "nega/niga" means you or you are. (Anthony and Ryan is the best)
i say whatever the fuck i want
7:07 This guy gets it -👴🏻
How about this. Make a post, don't read any comments. Problems solved.
ok but that tik tok was wild
Im starting to like Farina on the show now :)
Love the conversation but what’s being failed to mention is that unfortunately time and time again we in the black community keep getting things/ideas stolen. And tiktok has show in real time how easily pushed to the side black creators are. I wish that when you guys spoke about black culture and issue you do have African American guest because other races will never understand the depth of pain in our culture just we can not understand the depth and culture of other races.
Jk is me. Crack jokes about everything. Lol
7:07 CLIP THAT CLIP THAT!🤣🤣 jk
Jk golden age
Asain can definitely do Hip-Hop!
Check out: Reichi - Jingi! It's 🔥
Me at 7:07 👁️👄👁️
Eh, as an Taiwanese born and raised in America, I would rather be called an Asian or Oriental instead of a "Yellow Person", because the term "Yellow" is slang for "Coward". And, back in the day Non-Asians would call or refer to Asians either "Yellow People" or "Orientals". Even till this day, they would call or refer to Asians as "Yellow People".
All Asians should be gymbrats and squat their bodyweight, then everyone will start pronouncing Ass-sians instead of ehhhsians
Totes agree with the OG BLM acronym. You will be missed.
So many yesterday words. 😆
Sea horses are NOT hermaphrodites 😐
7:07
Joe thinks like a Gen X-er. I believe he's an early Millenial when it comes to age, but his mind is all Gen X. :)
😂😂😂
Can't use "boy"
I guess you can say that the N word falls into this category as well
Why do I get this sense that Joe will turn into Asian Karen in 10 years.
🙆
Just say what you want, and stop letting a hundred idiots on Twitter rule over you.
those idiots on twitter are pretty powerful. especially if you're in entertainment. your livelihood are on the line
Kristin is such a cutie
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first
Joe needs a haircut.
No, he doesn't. His gf, Hannah likes his hair long. And eventually Joe wants to donate his hair to charity.
In the uk in the workplace you apparently can’t say you’re straight because it offends gay people because they think if you’re straight! … I must be bent! Boohoooooo 😢
Someone clip Anthony tho 🤣
Dang joe more and more like Bobby lee.
Pretty rich that there’s a bunch of straight neurotypical people discussing these words lmao. Would be better to have this convo with a neurodivergent person or gay person
long time jk fan and i totally agree.
You guys are missing major points. It’s not just blacks don’t want Asians to do hip hop, it’s the fact that when blacks enter Asian countries they’re treated like shit. It’s the fact that the being gay in many/most counties is a death sentence. You cannot take the context of the community out. That’s why communities get upset. Taking the rhythm but not the blues. Which is why getting upset that people are upset is not helpful.
That thing is not exclusive to only one race. Even Asians are treated differently in all countries. What is your point? Weird thing is even Asians will treat or judge another Asian depending on where they come from.
Stfu.... because blacks are soon kind
I understand like 1 or 2 words in today's rap songs. Give me a song and I'll listen to it.
We need a new era of political incorrectness to return!
i just like saying the r word to see who is cool lmao. like know time and place and how to be inclusive and respectful but also, who gives a f sometimes lmfao
Having 1 girl in a group of boys makes everyone cooler. Having more than 2 girls in a group of 8, suddenly becomes a girl's night out.
I thought it was call google cause of the number set : googolplex to mean it’s a lot
it is, google is the number 1 with a 100 zeros behind it, a googleplex is 1 with a google amount of 0s behind it. This is JK news, take nothing they say as factual record.
Hey remember only blm