Another great vid, My late Father had that same class 22, he set it running on his layout and forgot about it and went bed. He drifted off to sleep wondering what the whirring noises that he could hear was. In the morning the loco was knackered having run for hours so I stripped the motor out of it and found another on ebay. He then ran it as a dummy in a double header just like the real thing, as by all accounts they weren't the most reliable loco!!
About the Lima trains that won't drive on small radius curves... We Continental modelers differentiate between classic Lima (G motor, low weight, molded details) and the so-called 'Lima Nova' range, with all the things you'd expect from Roco and so on. The last ones are practically limited to a minimum radius of about 400mm. There were also some transitional variations which came with separate details on slightly revised old castings. And to make sure that everyone is even more confused, the department store HEMA also had a few special editions. Your BO-BO kits will probably fit on the HEMA class 33 too.
Great video and content. Some advise please. I want to create a track in my sons room. Space is limited, so was thinking of a suspended / shelf loop around his room. I have seen some online, but wanted to know if you have done anything like this. Also what is the tightest radius on the turns that will not damage or cause derailments. For scenes, I will need them to be light weight, any ideas for tunnels and bridges.
1st radius is fine for most locos, even large ones, we have two videos on this if it helps. But be careful of newer locos, esp larger ones as for various reasons they can be very restricted with some only suitable for 2nd or even 3rd radius! Most older second hand locos will be fine. Almost everything on the layout, bridges tunnels hills buildings can be made from cardboard , its our main building material so we have lots of videos on this. I am also using some of the cheap Dapol buildings now which might be good (video out Friday) but shop around on price. Hope this helps. Email us if you need longer answers or me info if you like happy to help
@@michaeldavies9600 sorry I accidentally pressed send before I finished typing. I was with a mate when I ordered it he said "Haven't you got enough trains?!" I said "are you trying to sound like a fool?!"
Thank you. Great advice as always. What would you do.but a hornby starter kit and then buy additional track to add on, or buy it all separately. Also what would you suggest for dc analogue control? It is all compatible. What gauge is the same as hornby.
Yes a starter set is best but shop around and you can usually get one discounted down to £50-60, its contents would cost over £80 separately. You will also get a controller, they are not the best but OK for running a train round an oval. We bought one from Aldi for £50 at Christmas. Shop around carefully for any additions you buy, prices vary hugely especially online. Try Kernow Model Centre, AGR Models, The Island Railway Shop or Hattons, who all discount new online. Better still buy second hand especially track and points, we have never bought these new and have had no issues. Peco points are the same price as Hornby but far superior. Take a look at our website for a good DC do it yourself, cheap controller.
Nice to see the locos running around, very relaxing, as mentioned in the last video. I kinda want a Coca-Cola bagnall myself (which's weird because I don't actually like Coca-Cola that much, I prefer Pepsi myself). Regarding the Bachmann Junior models, it is a shame. You'd think having starter models for kids/new people to the hobby would be good. I personally want one of Stuart (though maybe Mattel got after them on that, which's why they don't make them anymore, seeing as it's just a faceless Thomas).
@@BudgetModelRailways Ah yes, that's unfortunately true. They'll find that's not sustainable in the long run, which is sad. You'd think they'd want to build up the next generation of loyal customers/hobbyists.
@Budget Model Railways , I thought that was one of the reasons for the Coca Cola set, was surprised to hear you call it awful just after saying you’re not worried about accuracy, when it’s hopefully going to get younger ones interested (that includes my son!) he also loves the yellow Bagnal. Have just received your 0-4-0 shunter body, it’s waiting in line for me as I also need to pretty up my Lima shunter! Keep up the good work
@@peterbelsten6875 Fair comment, I'm not a big fan of corporate branding but can see what you mean about the young ones. Enjoy our shunter and send us some pics please
Great collection of diesels...the next to last one looks like the O Scale 6 wheel industrial switcher Atlas sold here in the States that will pull a stump and can be had cheaply if you shop around.
Great video guys. I enjoyed watching trains going round and round chasing it's caboose. I am in a micro layout group and have taken up a challenge. To build an operating micro layout inside a baseball case. The layout must be operational. 1 engine one or two cars, at least two points possibly 3. A topical US base at is 33 inches overall. The case would be 34 & 1/2 inches in length. The width 3&1/2 to 4 inches. Height would be same as the width. Making the case more of a rectangular box. I am thinking of.... OO9 scale. Anyways always love your videos. and especially the beautiful layouts you two design.
Well, you've got twice my roster of LNER/LMS locos with your little diesel fleet. Anyway, this is a good show to see those running on your layout, especially for me. I might have been a cow grazing besides a railway line in a previous life... Anyway, I am thinking about a folding travel layout the size of a large suitcase, to run trains when I'm in holidays with my mother 600 km away from home... You have done plenty of interesting things I can use for it.
fantastic the 3D printed shunter my friend asked me to build it up for her come out great got old Hornby chassis on it like a rocket but looks nice in ncb blue with yellow ends
Looks really good! For us newbies it would be really great if you gave us an idea of the year or decade of the different locos? Id like to know which steam era would sit well with which diesel shunter loco for example. Great work!
Great video as always Mike and Doug,a nice collection you have there,ive been thinking about buying one of those Janus shunters for a few months now,and after watching yours i did just that from Hattons last night,it comes in an little bundle with 3 wagons.
A great video guys, always good advice and Honest advice, your own shunter body is a must buy, which I will. wishing you good luck and keep up the great work.
Great video. Have you looked for one of the old Lima 08s? They’re really cheap and much better than the old Hornby ones I bought 2 for probably less than £10 each
Hello, I’ve been watching you build your layout from the start enjoying it very much I will give you 10/10, can you tell use witch one is your favourite trains. Thank you. All your video is 10/10.
Hi John thanks for commenting. Actually I have just sold this layout to make way for other projects. Favourite locos is a bit like favourite bits of music, it depends what mood I am in. My Hornby 0-4-0 BR Saddle tank, Hornby Bagnall and Lima Class 33 would be in the running. Also my 3d printed N gauge locos on Kato chassis
@@BudgetModelRailways it's fine I love n and 00 and infact at home is 00 on a budget and at dads its N gauge not on a budget...planning to get your tram because I love side plates...can we see you do a rail bus with a 0-4-0 chassis with metal running board but with 4 wheel coach body as a steam rail bus.
Smokey Joe and the other 0-4-0 locos should be about £20. Hornby will sell you the motorised chassis for £8, there is no way a plastic body should add £32 to the retail! I wouldn't describe any loco as only £249, but I guess there will be enough enthusiasts to pay that kind of money, it's five times my budget for any loco
Can I ask you have a very successful channel. I don’t have many successful videos on mine but how do you deal with horrible comments? Its seems I’ve had one or two and I don’t know how to respond to it.
Looks really good! For us newbies it would be really great if you gave us an idea of the year or decade of the different locos? Id like to know which steam era would sit well with which diesel shunter loco for example. Great work!
Another great vid, My late Father had that same class 22, he set it running on his layout and forgot about it and went bed. He drifted off to sleep wondering what the whirring noises that he could hear was. In the morning the loco was knackered having run for hours so I stripped the motor out of it and found another on ebay. He then ran it as a dummy in a double header just like the real thing, as by all accounts they weren't the most reliable loco!!
😁 easily done!
Really enjoyed seeing all your diesels running and particularly your commentary. Thanks again
I forgot I'd watched this before so watched it again and enjoyed it just as much!👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Would love to see your full range of locos, rolling stock and storage methods. Looks like it may take a while though 😂
Great to see such a variety of diesels...
I recently uploaded a video of BR Blue Diesels which you might also enjoy
About the Lima trains that won't drive on small radius curves... We Continental modelers differentiate between classic Lima (G motor, low weight, molded details) and the so-called 'Lima Nova' range, with all the things you'd expect from Roco and so on. The last ones are practically limited to a minimum radius of about 400mm.
There were also some transitional variations which came with separate details on slightly revised old castings.
And to make sure that everyone is even more confused, the department store HEMA also had a few special editions. Your BO-BO kits will probably fit on the HEMA class 33 too.
Very nice to see your diesels running. I have a Lima 55 and 31.
You have a fantastic collection of diesel locos. I now fancy a Janus and an 08.
Get that green 25, weather with brown pastels..it comes up very well
Great video and content. Some advise please. I want to create a track in my sons room. Space is limited, so was thinking of a suspended / shelf loop around his room. I have seen some online, but wanted to know if you have done anything like this. Also what is the tightest radius on the turns that will not damage or cause derailments. For scenes, I will need them to be light weight, any ideas for tunnels and bridges.
1st radius is fine for most locos, even large ones, we have two videos on this if it helps. But be careful of newer locos, esp larger ones as for various reasons they can be very restricted with some only suitable for 2nd or even 3rd radius! Most older second hand locos will be fine. Almost everything on the layout, bridges tunnels hills buildings can be made from cardboard , its our main building material so we have lots of videos on this. I am also using some of the cheap Dapol buildings now which might be good (video out Friday) but shop around on price. Hope this helps. Email us if you need longer answers or me info if you like happy to help
Don't be ashamed of your large collection, be proud!
You can never have enough!
@@michaeldavies9600 So true!
@@ILikeTransport I was going to buy some second hand carriges the other week and my Mrs said havent you got enough?Dont be daft ws the reply :)
@@michaeldavies9600 😂😂. I got a 4 car Bachmann Voyager on eBay (with slight damage) for £48!
@@michaeldavies9600 sorry I accidentally pressed send before I finished typing. I was with a mate when I ordered it he said "Haven't you got enough trains?!" I said "are you trying to sound like a fool?!"
Thank you. Great advice as always. What would you do.but a hornby starter kit and then buy additional track to add on, or buy it all separately. Also what would you suggest for dc analogue control? It is all compatible. What gauge is the same as hornby.
Yes a starter set is best but shop around and you can usually get one discounted down to £50-60, its contents would cost over £80 separately. You will also get a controller, they are not the best but OK for running a train round an oval. We bought one from Aldi for £50 at Christmas. Shop around carefully for any additions you buy, prices vary hugely especially online. Try Kernow Model Centre, AGR Models, The Island Railway Shop or Hattons, who all discount new online. Better still buy second hand especially track and points, we have never bought these new and have had no issues. Peco points are the same price as Hornby but far superior. Take a look at our website for a good DC do it yourself, cheap controller.
You Have Given Me A SMASHING Idea!
Hope you are well...
Can't wait
Nice to see the locos running around, very relaxing, as mentioned in the last video. I kinda want a Coca-Cola bagnall myself (which's weird because I don't actually like Coca-Cola that much, I prefer Pepsi myself).
Regarding the Bachmann Junior models, it is a shame. You'd think having starter models for kids/new people to the hobby would be good. I personally want one of Stuart (though maybe Mattel got after them on that, which's why they don't make them anymore, seeing as it's just a faceless Thomas).
The manufacturer's don't seem over bothered about young/new modellers, they would rather milk the older, richer enthusiast
@@BudgetModelRailways Ah yes, that's unfortunately true. They'll find that's not sustainable in the long run, which is sad. You'd think they'd want to build up the next generation of loyal customers/hobbyists.
@Budget Model Railways , I thought that was one of the reasons for the Coca Cola set, was surprised to hear you call it awful just after saying you’re not worried about accuracy, when it’s hopefully going to get younger ones interested (that includes my son!) he also loves the yellow Bagnal.
Have just received your 0-4-0 shunter body, it’s waiting in line for me as I also need to pretty up my Lima shunter!
Keep up the good work
@@peterbelsten6875 Fair comment, I'm not a big fan of corporate branding but can see what you mean about the young ones. Enjoy our shunter and send us some pics please
@@peterbelsten6875 To each their own I suppose, but yes, hopefully it will do the job of getting kids into the hobby.
first class job and some lovely locos enjoy yours self
A nice collection of locos right there ☺️
Great collection of diesels...the next to last one looks like the O Scale 6 wheel industrial switcher Atlas sold here in the States that will pull a stump and can be had cheaply if you shop around.
I have one by Bachman that looks similar
Its a better model, but of course more expensive
Great video guys. I enjoyed watching trains going round and round chasing it's caboose.
I am in a micro layout group and have taken up a challenge.
To build an operating micro layout inside a baseball case. The layout must be operational. 1 engine one or two cars, at least two points possibly 3. A topical US base at is 33 inches overall. The case would be 34 & 1/2 inches in length. The width 3&1/2 to 4 inches. Height would be same as the width. Making the case more of a rectangular box.
I am thinking of.... OO9 scale.
Anyways always love your videos. and especially the beautiful layouts you two design.
looking great,running well,nice one folks.jpj
The yellow bagnall is a really smooth and quiet runner
Well, you've got twice my roster of LNER/LMS locos with your little diesel fleet. Anyway, this is a good show to see those running on your layout, especially for me. I might have been a cow grazing besides a railway line in a previous life...
Anyway, I am thinking about a folding travel layout the size of a large suitcase, to run trains when I'm in holidays with my mother 600 km away from home... You have done plenty of interesting things I can use for it.
I have made an oo oval layout 16x26in so it's possible
fantastic the 3D printed shunter my friend asked me to build it up for her come out great got old Hornby chassis on it like a rocket but looks nice in ncb blue with yellow ends
So pleased thanks. New slow running chassis are available direct from Hornby for £8
Looks really good! For us newbies it would be really great if you gave us an idea of the year or decade of the different locos? Id like to know which steam era would sit well with which diesel shunter loco for example. Great work!
Great video as always Mike and Doug,a nice collection you have there,ive been thinking about buying one of those Janus shunters for a few months now,and after watching yours i did just that from Hattons last night,it comes in an little bundle with 3 wagons.
Nice, they are a great little loco
Enjoyed watching again...
Its looking good I appreciate this channel alot i have recently started building my layout again
Good luck with it, thanks for watching
A great video guys, always good advice and Honest advice, your own shunter body is a must buy, which I will. wishing you good luck and keep up the great work.
You can now get the chassis new direct from Hornby for £8 plus postage
Awesome 👍
Great video. Have you looked for one of the old Lima 08s? They’re really cheap and much better than the old Hornby ones I bought 2 for probably less than £10 each
We have had a couple, if I could find one that cheap I could be tempted
Looking good 👍
An impressive collection of diesels, not my thing as I don't understand many of the differences between them. I'll stick with steam for now I think!
Thanks, I feel the same about many steam locos in fact. I guess it depends on what you know
My favourite is probably the 08 shunter
Hello, I’ve been watching you build your layout from the start enjoying it very much I will give you 10/10, can you tell use witch one is your favourite trains. Thank you. All your video is 10/10.
Hi John thanks for commenting. Actually I have just sold this layout to make way for other projects. Favourite locos is a bit like favourite bits of music, it depends what mood I am in. My Hornby 0-4-0 BR Saddle tank, Hornby Bagnall and Lima Class 33 would be in the running. Also my 3d printed N gauge locos on Kato chassis
Oh right I can’t wait for your next project on your railway, doesn’t matter what your size it will be I will enjoy it. Thank you.
We are currently working on an N gauge layout , we have just uploaded a video. Thanks for watching and commenting
Epic
Can we see more work on the n gauge layout
Sorry, I gave up with N , too small, too expensive
@@BudgetModelRailways it's fine I love n and 00 and infact at home is 00 on a budget and at dads its N gauge not on a budget...planning to get your tram because I love side plates...can we see you do a rail bus with a 0-4-0 chassis with metal running board but with 4 wheel coach body as a steam rail bus.
We have a steam tramway and two rail buses in OO, thanks for watching
Hi I have just got the 040 chassis that fits your tram locomotive and the diesel shunter from hornby for £7.99 hope this helps.
Mike what's your thoughts on Hornby,s 100 year centenary edition locos. Smoky Joe £39.95 and the duchess of atholl only £249.95
Smokey Joe and the other 0-4-0 locos should be about £20. Hornby will sell you the motorised chassis for £8, there is no way a plastic body should add £32 to the retail! I wouldn't describe any loco as only £249, but I guess there will be enough enthusiasts to pay that kind of money, it's five times my budget for any loco
@@BudgetModelRailways yea precisely my thoughts.
If you take a look at our videos on why are model railways so expensive, and the future of model railways I go into this in a bit more depth
@@BudgetModelRailways I,m pretty sure I,be watched it
Because the janus has nem pockets a large tension lock can be fitted easily
Doesn't that block the movement? Or do you get enough play for a 250mm radius
What happened to the jinty you had?
Still got two, just haven't filmed them yet
@@BudgetModelRailways okay cool what liverys have they got
Lined BR Black and Jsdr blue. I also have a lner green one
What size is the layout, please.
2.5 ft by 4ft
Curves are 12.75in radius old jouef track
Lots of locos.
Can I ask you have a very successful channel. I don’t have many successful videos on mine but how do you deal with horrible comments? Its seems I’ve had one or two and I don’t know how to respond to it.
We remove them and block them, don't let it put you off they are a sad minority
Budget Model Railways thank you. I will. Keep up with the great work!
What's the name of your channel and we will have a look
Budget Model Railways it’s Watermillfilms. I’ve got a few railway videos . But it’s all a bit of a mishmash.
Thank you for the advice I really appreciate that.
Looks really good! For us newbies it would be really great if you gave us an idea of the year or decade of the different locos? Id like to know which steam era would sit well with which diesel shunter loco for example. Great work!
We don't worry too much about that kind of thing, we just run what we like.