5:35 😘 One thing to keep in mind, which you're totally right with not overthinking cause there's so much other stuff to be looking out for during a fight, is that if you only have 1 stack of Mind Melt, say from using a Surge of Darkness proc, and you have a free Mind Blast proc from Shadowy Insight, if you use your instant Mind Blast from Shadowy Insight, it'll consume both Shadowy Insight and the singular Mind Melt stack. However, if you have 2 stacks of Mind Melt and a Shadowy Insight proc, then you'll get two instant cast Mind Blasts. It consumes the Shadowy Insight proc first. I'm not sure if it's intended for Shadowy Insight procs to munch single Mind Melt stacks, but if it isn't, I wish they'd fix it. I think another potential build based around a lot of instants casts and Auspicious Spirits, could be something like: www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/priest/shadow/DAREFQEUEUVUVEKBQKBQBEMVVUUVWUEFWAgDBQADg30WhXVPgwpb I left two points to spend cause I'm not totally sure where to put them, but you could do any combination of N'Zoth, Y'Shaarj, Psychic Link, Pain of Death, Dark Evangelism, or Mind Devourer for even more procs for free Devouring Plague. This build would give you another instant cast via Voidbolt which for me was hitting pvp dummy for 30k average and gives you 12 Insanity per cast. With Voidform being a 2 min CD though, I think Driven to Madness would be a must. Voidform also resets your Mind Blast charges, so popping Mindbender and then using your two Mind Blasts (though usually Shadowy Insight procs and you'll have 3 charges) then casting Voidform gets you another two Mind Blasts back instantly, that's some crazy burst. I like how you're exploring a lot of different builds. There's definitely way more ways to run Shadow now than in the past.
that's actually true. Yes you would need a double proc for instant double mindblast. I think its a bug atm but yes atm if you use mb proc it will consume the single stack. And I shall put ur build to work and see what the test results show. I am trying all the different builds out there for the best research and results for fellow spriests. There are so many ways to play that all will work. I think there is legit a build for every type of scenario and not one build fits all. it honestly feels great!
Let them use their mobility b4 you use ur cc. So they charge stun you, you trinket fear to buy you just enough time to freedom sprint away so they have to charge again. Then you root them and keep walking away. Once they leap you stun and walk while using ur instant damage. Try to repeat this process. And try to los them during downtime or when you have nothing left or no peels from your teammate.
Do you usually open with pets in arena's before popping burst cds? New to spriest sorry for newb question.(answered me in the video thx bro lol, asked before the video was over)
Haha all good! And don't worry if you don't throw pets out 1st. That's a perfect scenario. Best thing I can tell you is don't overthink it and you will be good to go
Great videos man. This expansion I decided to play SPriest. Never played this class. So I wanted to challenge my self this season. I’m having so much trouble being trained every single game. Can’t do any damage it seems. Do you have any videos on how to play while being blown up 24/7? Lol
Honestly all are insane and great for specific scenarios. Darkiron is insane for most comps in s1 with the removal of all the different bursts atm. I.E. assass death mark burst. Spriest mindgames full dots. Feral with berserk and bleeds arms war bleed build ,etc and ofc the boost of stat. Human is insane with being able to run double trinks and also having 2% more of all offstage. Normal dwarf same as Darkiron but the wall is for defence if you really feel pressure this season. NE idk if that's needed atm mainly because most burst isn't casted burst atm so racial isn't as strong.
could go a yogg build for 40 rbgs and spamm mindblast and devouring plague to procc the apperations (shadowcrash dot a group) vampiric touch will activate procc for mindblast and devouring plague
I'm still a bit confused on Catharsis. Do you just randomly use it when your health drops 20%? Is there any indicator telling you the damage it stored is full?
There's a buff you get but I generally use it anytime I've taken decent damage and I need to do damage. No need to overthink if it's full or not. All you need to think is, If you've taken damage you have a catharsis. If you've taken alot of damage you have a big one
Have you ever looked at how psychic link and screams of the void can combo, as far as dotting everyone and getting 80% more dot dmg on everyone when you mindflay a target, on top of picking up idol of C'thun, due to the tendril's playing off of both talents as well
Is shadow doing well recently is it enjoyable to play? Shadowlands was a total waste of money for me because I played 1 month with it only. I’m thinking about to get this expansion but I don’t want to buy it and see shadow priest gets nerfed l.
Request; could you make a face roll/ noob friendly shadow priest build with pw; life, angelic bulward and cthun? I dont have the 500iq to play your other builds.
That build wouldn't work unfortunately, spriest by nature isn't an easy spec and going that route would lose alot of pressure that makes spriest viable.
Your tool kit is based around dots. So losing damnation nerfs the rest of the talents. I wouldn't recommend void torrent but if you want to you can. You just don't spam mindflay enough also for cthun but I think any idol is playable in bgs and rbgs so could be fun. It DOES pump alot
@@eddphobia this was the comment I was searching for. Recently came back, friend recommended I play my favorite spec (s priest) and saw this and need to do it to em in Bgs
I have a specific builds for 2v2 based on dbl dps or spriest heals. Theres a couple nodes id change for 2v2 with this build but I will have a 2v2 guide coming soon after season starts
one reason why i LOVE feather over body and soul is the mana cost. the mana regen in combat has been nerfed so many times, using PWS a lot rips through your mana, esp if u know you have to md during a game, feather is free. you said feather isnt all that great unless you have a freedom.. but doesnt the same thing apply to body and soul? i feel like theres absolutely no loss taking feather over body and soul. or take both if u want.
@@eddphobia taking feather doesnt prevent you from spamming pws though. where as taking body and soul, and having a slow means the talent is worthless, which most the time. atleast with feather you have 3 carges, no cd, no mana, and can still shield. IMO. to each their own.
What you think is the best build? I have 3 speccs but i think you can do so many things as shadow, aoe dmg. Single with a bit aoe. You can play maybe deff or inc build for rbg (i am rbg player) personaly i think you can play mindbender not good than when your focus broke its not nice you lost ur dmg. You want to add me? Insane#23953 thanks :)
Sheesh you putting in the work dawg. Appreciate it!
I want to give the best Info I can
5:35 😘
One thing to keep in mind, which you're totally right with not overthinking cause there's so much other stuff to be looking out for during a fight, is that if you only have 1 stack of Mind Melt, say from using a Surge of Darkness proc, and you have a free Mind Blast proc from Shadowy Insight, if you use your instant Mind Blast from Shadowy Insight, it'll consume both Shadowy Insight and the singular Mind Melt stack. However, if you have 2 stacks of Mind Melt and a Shadowy Insight proc, then you'll get two instant cast Mind Blasts. It consumes the Shadowy Insight proc first. I'm not sure if it's intended for Shadowy Insight procs to munch single Mind Melt stacks, but if it isn't, I wish they'd fix it.
I think another potential build based around a lot of instants casts and Auspicious Spirits, could be something like:
www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/priest/shadow/DAREFQEUEUVUVEKBQKBQBEMVVUUVWUEFWAgDBQADg30WhXVPgwpb
I left two points to spend cause I'm not totally sure where to put them, but you could do any combination of N'Zoth, Y'Shaarj, Psychic Link, Pain of Death, Dark Evangelism, or Mind Devourer for even more procs for free Devouring Plague. This build would give you another instant cast via Voidbolt which for me was hitting pvp dummy for 30k average and gives you 12 Insanity per cast.
With Voidform being a 2 min CD though, I think Driven to Madness would be a must. Voidform also resets your Mind Blast charges, so popping Mindbender and then using your two Mind Blasts (though usually Shadowy Insight procs and you'll have 3 charges) then casting Voidform gets you another two Mind Blasts back instantly, that's some crazy burst.
I like how you're exploring a lot of different builds. There's definitely way more ways to run Shadow now than in the past.
that's actually true. Yes you would need a double proc for instant double mindblast. I think its a bug atm but yes atm if you use mb proc it will consume the single stack. And I shall put ur build to work and see what the test results show. I am trying all the different builds out there for the best research and results for fellow spriests. There are so many ways to play that all will work. I think there is legit a build for every type of scenario and not one build fits all. it honestly feels great!
Any tips to deal with fury warriors? I'm getting just fucking trash by them right now.
Let them use their mobility b4 you use ur cc. So they charge stun you, you trinket fear to buy you just enough time to freedom sprint away so they have to charge again. Then you root them and keep walking away. Once they leap you stun and walk while using ur instant damage. Try to repeat this process. And try to los them during downtime or when you have nothing left or no peels from your teammate.
Do you usually open with pets in arena's before popping burst cds? New to spriest sorry for newb question.(answered me in the video thx bro lol, asked before the video was over)
Haha all good! And don't worry if you don't throw pets out 1st. That's a perfect scenario. Best thing I can tell you is don't overthink it and you will be good to go
Great videos man. This expansion I decided to play SPriest. Never played this class. So I wanted to challenge my self this season. I’m having so much trouble being trained every single game. Can’t do any damage it seems. Do you have any videos on how to play while being blown up 24/7? Lol
I'm working on a how to deal with melee guide. This issue is very common for most spriest so you're not alone
@@eddphobia you sir are amazing. Thank you for your service as well.
Would you run this with aff lock splay? If not, would it be your other build?
Yes the would be best for splay imo
what do you recommend for stat priority for pvp? (new to spriest)
Haste Verst and haste wep enchant
@@eddphobia awesome thank you!
What do you think of screams of the void ? Also which dps classes do you think will do well with Spriest this season ?
I tried screams for along time but I thinks it's better to out the 2 points into inescapable torment or the death buff
What do u think about to alliance races? For pvp which one is best? Human, nelf, iron or normal dwarf?
Honestly all are insane and great for specific scenarios. Darkiron is insane for most comps in s1 with the removal of all the different bursts atm. I.E. assass death mark burst. Spriest mindgames full dots. Feral with berserk and bleeds arms war bleed build ,etc and ofc the boost of stat. Human is insane with being able to run double trinks and also having 2% more of all offstage. Normal dwarf same as Darkiron but the wall is for defence if you really feel pressure this season. NE idk if that's needed atm mainly because most burst isn't casted burst atm so racial isn't as strong.
@@eddphobia i think i ll go as dark iron, thanks for answer m8!
Can u write the rotation?
What is that combatnumbers addon you got?
It's called classicfloatingtext
great guide
ty!
This will be the best build for rbgs ? Thx
There's one or 2 things I'd change for rbgs but yes this is great for rbgs. I'm sure there's a better rbg build tho out there. I don't really rbg
could go a yogg build for 40 rbgs and spamm mindblast and devouring plague to procc the apperations (shadowcrash dot a group) vampiric touch will activate procc for mindblast and devouring plague
so do u use mind spike only when instant proc ?
yepp
Let me Know of any sort of builds yall find interesting!
Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely loving my SP.
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@@mydogatethebones that makes me happy to hear!!! Ty
Thx for guide :)
Of course
I'm still a bit confused on Catharsis.
Do you just randomly use it when your health drops 20%? Is there any indicator telling you the damage it stored is full?
There's a buff you get but I generally use it anytime I've taken decent damage and I need to do damage. No need to overthink if it's full or not. All you need to think is, If you've taken damage you have a catharsis. If you've taken alot of damage you have a big one
Have you ever looked at how psychic link and screams of the void can combo, as far as dotting everyone and getting 80% more dot dmg on everyone when you mindflay a target, on top of picking up idol of C'thun, due to the tendril's playing off of both talents as well
Is shadow doing well recently is it enjoyable to play? Shadowlands was a total waste of money for me because I played 1 month with it only. I’m thinking about to get this expansion but I don’t want to buy it and see shadow priest gets nerfed l.
Spriest feels the most fun ever for pvp. Never know when something is going to get nerfed but as of now Spriest is Great
This a PVP Build? Do you have a good Pve build?
I dont do pve so unfortunately I do not
Request; could you make a face roll/ noob friendly shadow priest build with pw; life, angelic bulward and cthun? I dont have the 500iq to play your other builds.
That build wouldn't work unfortunately, spriest by nature isn't an easy spec and going that route would lose alot of pressure that makes spriest viable.
I like the proc concept, cant figure out rotation. Feel like sitting there spamming mind spike to fill space.
I never have an issue with procs. and fillers should be mindflay to keep aveng up mindblast not procs and dispells
Tempted to try Void Torrent + Screams of the Void + C'Thun in random bgs. Can get torrent down to 30secs and it hits like a TRUCK
Your tool kit is based around dots. So losing damnation nerfs the rest of the talents. I wouldn't recommend void torrent but if you want to you can. You just don't spam mindflay enough also for cthun but I think any idol is playable in bgs and rbgs so could be fun. It DOES pump alot
Hey man can you upload a talent tree spec after the new changes??!
Haven't changed anything even after changes
@@eddphobia this was the comment I was searching for. Recently came back, friend recommended I play my favorite spec (s priest) and saw this and need to do it to em in Bgs
How much does race matter on spriest?
It's pretty important this 1st season
Talent tree link doesn't work when i try to import. That my error or yours? haha
I haven't heard any issues so far of you give me a few minutes ill retry it or link direct to you through this comment
@@eddphobia sounds good man. Thanks.
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@@eddphobia I assume this is level 70 build? Got my Druid threw a few mythics and wanted try to spriest.
@@cjsworld69 yes this is a lvl 70 build
Would love to see some 2v2 arenas using this build :)
I have a specific builds for 2v2 based on dbl dps or spriest heals. Theres a couple nodes id change for 2v2 with this build but I will have a 2v2 guide coming soon after season starts
one reason why i LOVE feather over body and soul is the mana cost. the mana regen in combat has been nerfed so many times, using PWS a lot rips through your mana, esp if u know you have to md during a game, feather is free. you said feather isnt all that great unless you have a freedom.. but doesnt the same thing apply to body and soul? i feel like theres absolutely no loss taking feather over body and soul. or take both if u want.
The key difference is spamming pw shield is big for staying alive. Feather is not. Mana isn't really ever an issue in arena generally either
@@eddphobia taking feather doesnt prevent you from spamming pws though. where as taking body and soul, and having a slow means the talent is worthless, which most the time. atleast with feather you have 3 carges, no cd, no mana, and can still shield. IMO. to each their own.
@@eddphobia How is mana not an issue for you?
Can you make a keybinds macros guide?
I can yes
Could you please share your threatplates with us?
The pastebin isn't working for some reason ill work on that soon
What you think is the best build? I have 3 speccs but i think you can do so many things as shadow, aoe dmg. Single with a bit aoe. You can play maybe deff or inc build for rbg (i am rbg player) personaly i think you can play mindbender not good than when your focus broke its not nice you lost ur dmg. You want to add me? Insane#23953 thanks :)