PBS Logo Demo circa 1989/1990

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  • @ABCEasyas--
    @ABCEasyas-- 2 роки тому +9

    15 years later, many more idents were discovered, and the “logo demo” is now 15 minutes long

  • @baliebox4916
    @baliebox4916 6 років тому +4

    Here a List of all the Cities in this Video for Reference
    KSBS San Diego CA (0:06)
    WNYC/WNET Manhattan NY (0:11 and 0:54) (Broadcasted from the Twin Towers of the WTC to be Exact)
    KBYU Salt Lake City UT (0:13)
    WQED Pittsburgh TN (0:17)
    WFSU Tallahassee FL (0:21)
    WTTW Chicago IL (0:27)
    WHYY Philadelphia PA (0:3`)
    WGBH Boston MA (0:36) (The Main Core PBS Station)
    WIPB Muncie IN (0:40)
    KUHT Houston TX (0:47)
    KET Kentucky (0:50)
    Georgia Public TV Georgia (0:58)
    WLVT Easton PA (1:02)
    KTCA Minnesota (1:11)
    WBPT 2 Miami FL (1:15)
    KCTS Seattle WA (1:21)
    KERA Texas (1:23)
    North Carolina Public TV North Carolina (1:27)
    KSPS Spokane WA (1:31)
    WECT Cincinati OH (1:36)
    WNED Buffalo NY (1:51)
    WGBY Springfield MA (1:52)
    KAET Phoenix AZ (1:56)
    KQED San Fransisco CA (2:01)
    KRMA Denver CO (2:04)
    WGTE Toledo OH (2:08)
    South Carolina Educational TV South Carolina (2:14)
    WPSK Pennsylvania (2:16)
    Connecticut Public TV Connecticut (2:20)
    Oregon Public Broadcasting Orgeon (2:24)
    KLRU Austin TX (2:27)
    WHMT/WHMX Upstate New York (2:29)
    WJCT Jacksonville FL (2:32)
    Nebraska ETV Network (2:36)
    WETU Florida (2:39)
    KLRN San Antonio TX (2:45)
    KOCE Los Angeles CA (2:49)
    MPT Maryland (2:52)
    WETA Washington (2:58)
    WXXI Rochester NY (3:00)
    KCET Los Angeles (3:04)
    KUED Salt Lake City UT (3:07)

  • @Salmagundiii
    @Salmagundiii 17 років тому +3

    GREAT collection. Thanks for posting. These bring back memories.

  • @chandlerslater1444
    @chandlerslater1444 7 років тому +13

    1:23 My public TV station since 1996.

  • @susanwade1895
    @susanwade1895 5 років тому +3

    0:13 It Was The Music Called “Escape from The Atmosphere” and is Also From Videovisa

  • @JasonDelarosa2000
    @JasonDelarosa2000 4 роки тому +6

    I'm gonna watch classic PBS-related videos like this more often to celebrate them airing these timeless _Peanuts_ specials ad free and uncut to kids this year!

  • @andrewschroy6368
    @andrewschroy6368 11 років тому +3

    That's only the theme to Hometime. There's a synth-piano tune that actually serves as WHYY's jingle, but it's rarely heard.

  • @disneyfan85
    @disneyfan85 17 років тому +2

    I love the one used for WQED. I like how the skyline goes from day to night.

  • @HJAheeler12
    @HJAheeler12 7 місяців тому +2

    0:51 hey look there is my pbs station

  • @gameshowguy2000
    @gameshowguy2000 17 років тому +2

    That WQED logo was from the Zoobilee Zoo era (1986), and Hallmark was the Sponsor. But WQED was the producer.

  • @CappyDash
    @CappyDash 5 років тому +6

    0:14 Escape from the atmosphere?

    • @DanknDerpyGamer
      @DanknDerpyGamer 4 роки тому

      YEP!
      Fun fact: the late 1970s-era ident for OEPBS (now Oregon Public Broadcasting IIRC) (Not in this compilation) used a slowed down version of Toccata

  • @arthorization
    @arthorization 5 років тому +5

    Hey Everyone, I hope you guys are having great Nostalgia from this video. As I learned a little more about PBS stations. Here are all of the opinions about all the station logos and consider it a universal timecard. This took long to make so, please be happy about this comment and enjoy this universal time stamps and my opinions on every logo. Not meant to offend any homestates that people grew up with.
    Opinions will be shared in parathesis
    0:00 The Universal PBS logo (while making this I found that I got red text)
    0:06 KPBS (This brings great vibes)
    0:09 WNET 13 (This is a great station for famous kid shows)
    0:12 KBYU (Piano echos give it a relaxing feel)
    0:16 WQED (It's pretty short and sweet)
    0:21 WFSU (This logo has an unsettling vibe for some reason)
    0:27 WTTW (The music in the logo works well with the previous logo. Great CGI)
    0:31 WHYY (WHYY is this so great? I find it a little under exaggerated logo, no offense Philadelphia. Love the bell)
    0:35 WGBH (An iconic logo that is probably shown on a lot of TV shows. Surprising how they still use the logo)
    0:39 WIPB (Remember the synth)
    0:45 KUHT (Pretty Basic. But is a good design)
    0:49 KET (Previous logo was quiet. this logo was a fanfare.)
    0:54 WNYC (A little dated but great CGI)
    0:58 Georgia Public Television (I read one comment that he find it unsettling. I find it mysterious)
    1:00 WLVT 39 (Someone said that this is ear candy. He was right.)
    1:10 KTCA (Reminds of some logo but can't ring a bell. psst.. It's Colex)
    1:15 WPBT (Zooming in, reminds me of something. psst.. It's Viacom)
    1:20 KCTS Seattle (Violin gives good vibe)
    1:23 KERA (This is a great logo as it uses "RAD" music)
    1:26 North Carolina Public Television (This logo is cute with the music)
    1:30 KSPS 7 (Reminds about 3G home video. Quieter and tamer)
    1:36 WCET (WOW! Old Fashioned logo)
    1:49 WNED (Silent?)
    1:52 WGBY (Another Silent?)
    1:56 KAET (oh. Silent)
    2:00 KQED (Finally! Sound.)
    2:03 KRMA (Mix this audio with KSPS 7's visuals and crank the volume too high. You get 3G home entertainment)
    2:08 WGTE (Returned to silent town with a children's drawing)
    2:13 South Carolina Educational Television (Least, they have an announcer)
    2:17 WPSX (Sounds familiar? It's WIPB)
    2:20 Connecticut Public television (Great Logo because of the music)
    2:24 Oregon Public Broadcasting (Music just gets more and more relaxing)
    2:27 KLRU (Disney Home Video Vibe)
    2:29 WMHT & WMHX (Is that Bluestone? With SILENCE!?)
    2:32 WJCT (Also gives an old vibe)
    2:35 Nebraska ETV Network (Relaxing music)
    2:39 WEDU (Good CGI movement)
    2:45 KLRN (METAL SILENCE)
    2:49 KOCE (It's cool but yet disturbing synth)
    2:52 MPT (Seen better days)
    2:57 WETA (Relaxing music)
    3:00 WXXI (Ear candy but not Eye candy)
    3:04 KCET (Heard it discontinued)
    3:08 KUED (Relaxing last logo)
    3:13 Universal PBS logo (And we are done)
    OK guys we will wrap it up here. Have any Questions? Reply.
    This comment has no intentions of offending anyone that grew up with any of the other logos so I would see you next time when I will conclude this comment. Enjoy your day and enjoy this video.

  • @gonzo4057
    @gonzo4057 9 років тому +12

    I grew up with WGBH. I also remember the CPTV logo on some old barney tapes.

    • @marigoldmusic33
      @marigoldmusic33 4 роки тому +2

      Didn't everyone?

    • @alextendo1
      @alextendo1 4 роки тому +2

      I grew up with WHYY.

    • @Nick-du7cc
      @Nick-du7cc 3 роки тому +2

      When I was 1 I had nick jr and pbs kids

    • @mamatemari6061
      @mamatemari6061 Рік тому

      I grew up with WNET

    • @MintelThames
      @MintelThames 10 місяців тому +1

      Grew up with Nebraska Public Media tbh, WGBH is fire 0:35

  • @wlb93
    @wlb93 17 років тому

    Thank you for posting the vintage KPBS ID, I always want to see rare KPBS stuff.

  • @jamesborlan2850
    @jamesborlan2850 5 років тому +1

    I remember this video back in ,08 and. 09 it’s interesting seeing pbs logos from the 80s

  • @EricEbac22
    @EricEbac22 12 років тому +1

    @PTVhistoryproject--
    Whoever put this together forgot IPTV (Iowa Public Television) and Public TV stations and networks in Missouri, Arkansas, Alaska, and Hawaii.

  • @GigaLem
    @GigaLem 2 роки тому +1

    I don't remember remember 99% of these considering this was before I was born.
    Except for WGBH because of how loud it is, it's like the PBS version of the THX logo.

  • @tfbotm
    @tfbotm 5 років тому +1

    Grew up in the tri-state (North Jerz, where WNET still currently serves my area). Remember that logo and WNYC's (including 2 alternate ones - also remembered it becoming WBIS when I was on vacation in WETA-land in 1996, then WPXN that next year) VERY fondly.
    Logos not shown: WLIW and WNJM/WNJN (part of NJN, which I saw its last hours in 06/30/2011, my first day of my vacation back in NJ, before handing over to **coughs** NJTV the next day).
    Now I live near the Big Guava, home of WEDU (It co-produced - before TBN adapted it to the Christian crowd - THE REPPIES. I even passed by the theater where most scenes were filmed!)
    And on CPTV's logo - it's my second-favorite to WNET's. It's so humanoid, and it looks like an abstract Southern monogram! Being a Barney fan, I'd fill up with delight seeing that thing precede Season 1 eps of Barney & Friends.

  • @HarvestmanMan
    @HarvestmanMan 15 років тому +3

    The logo at 1:30 has a jingle that is actually a snippet from Mannheim Steamroller's "Fresh Aire" album. I believe it's the second track on there. Also, 0:13 's jingle is from a track on the "Fresh Aire V" album.

    • @MintelThames
      @MintelThames 10 місяців тому

      0:13 Tobe honest that’s “escape from the atmosphere”

  • @SonicTheJackrabbit
    @SonicTheJackrabbit 15 років тому +1

    Ah man, that OPB logo brings back fond memories of watching PBS when I was a little kid. :D

  • @TJCoyote
    @TJCoyote 14 років тому +3

    Nice collection of logos! There's one I'm looking for in particular... I don't know what station it's from, but it's a graphic of a reel-to-reel recorder running in the upper left corner of the screen, as a synthesized music phrase plays twice. Seen in NYC in the early 80's. Any idea what it's from?

  • @jamesmoulton9259
    @jamesmoulton9259 11 років тому +2

    Oldies but goodies, aren't they? Gee, I missed those good, old days with these logos.

  • @disneyfan85
    @disneyfan85 17 років тому +1

    Interestingly, most all of the big three networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) all have sister stations, whose call letters are exactly the same save for the first letter, on both coasts. The West Coast stations (KABC, KCBS and KNBC) hail from Los Angeles, while the East Coast stations (WABC, WCBS and WNBC) are all from New York City. PBS' stations in those cities are KCET and WNET, respectively.

  • @jamesborlan2850
    @jamesborlan2850 5 років тому +2

    Pbs logos from the 80s fascinate me

  • @OckGypsy
    @OckGypsy 2 роки тому +2

    For some reason it’s hard to believe that this is an actual PBS logo reel.

  • @NathanSimpsonnathanisbeast
    @NathanSimpsonnathanisbeast 9 років тому +3

    This programme was presented by WQED PITSBURGTH AND WGBH BOSTON And Delta Air Lines You will like the way we fly (Where in the world is carman sandigeo (1991-1995))

  • @Bluetailvappy
    @Bluetailvappy 17 років тому +1

    Oh and one more thing. I dunno if anyone remembers this. But KET (The Kentucky Network) produced this really strange Adult Math program. It was definitely produced in the early 80's, and just screamed 80's. I remember seeing it on our local PBS station very early in the morning during their GED block. There was also this program called "Write Right". i just wanna see if anybody remembers those.

  • @robpullano9756
    @robpullano9756 9 років тому +5

    I was decided the first WGTE logo is appeared 7:00 am.

  • @AbsoluteDigitalPictures
    @AbsoluteDigitalPictures Рік тому +2

    My local stations are WIPB and WFYI

  • @Palmy0724
    @Palmy0724 6 років тому +5

    2:53 Yay! My PBS Station!

  • @mr3urious
    @mr3urious 17 років тому +1

    Some of these logos look modern enough to be used today!

  • @yannahgabi5541
    @yannahgabi5541 5 років тому +2

    That ket fanfare was also the split tv fanfare

    • @p-head2157
      @p-head2157 2 роки тому

      I'm Also In Kentucky, So My PBS Station Is KET

  • @decimatorentertainmentstud8523
    @decimatorentertainmentstud8523 6 років тому +7

    The KERA logo is a classic!

  • @MichaelOKeefe2009
    @MichaelOKeefe2009 5 років тому +1

    WWHY was the station that let Nickelodeon used their studios for the first game show for kids, Double Dare!

  • @andrewschroy6368
    @andrewschroy6368 11 років тому +1

    Regarding Missouri-- you should be able to find some old program intro headers from KCPT in Kansas City, at least. And the 50th anniversary special from KETC in St. Louis does have an old program intro header from the 1970s (with probably the best-sounding synth music I heard for a PBS station).

  • @codym8897
    @codym8897 2 роки тому +2

    Hey PTVhistoryproject, can you upload "Austin City Limits 1403 Series Credits" from 1989?🙂

  • @EricEbac22
    @EricEbac22 12 років тому +1

    @Taylor Phillips--
    The Public Television stations in Michigan never produced any nationally-based programs.

  • @stewartlynch7859
    @stewartlynch7859 5 років тому

    02:37 The Nebraska TV Logo's "N" design is similar to the "N" in the logo of the Norwegian state broadcaster NRK.

  • @TJCoyote
    @TJCoyote 14 років тому +1

    @bigblueplanet You found it! I never thought I'd see that logo again. I think the version I saw may have been a later version, for some reason I remember smoother-sounding music, and the logo was white on a blue background in the upper left corner. Though I do enjoy seeing the earlier one - I like early Scanimate graphics One of these days I plan to build a small version of one...

  • @hannahpessin9201
    @hannahpessin9201 5 років тому +4

    0:35 is my local station.

    • @MintelThames
      @MintelThames 10 місяців тому +1

      And it’s the logo for the *flash of doom*

  • @barbarakirk3064
    @barbarakirk3064 4 роки тому +2

    The Kentucky Network sounds as if it should end something like The A-Team!

    • @p-head2157
      @p-head2157 2 роки тому

      KET Is My Station Barbara

  • @jakebluethunder
    @jakebluethunder 12 років тому +1

    Great compilation! Thanks.

  • @user-h1i9w
    @user-h1i9w 5 років тому +3

    1:50 There's an E Bulding on the WNED Logo

    • @JasonDelarosa2000
      @JasonDelarosa2000 4 роки тому

      Hahahahahahahaha! Pretty funny coincidence seeing that E is the third letter in WNET!

    • @MintelThames
      @MintelThames 10 місяців тому

      @@JasonDelarosa2000e

  • @tiaanubian4613
    @tiaanubian4613 5 років тому +1

    Nice to see other areas....more please

  • @mcsittel
    @mcsittel 12 років тому +1

    KUED-7 was licensed to Salt Lake City, and KBYU-11 to Provo.

  • @KevinPiland
    @KevinPiland 2 роки тому +1

    0:54 Not a PBS station although it was at one point.

    • @MintelThames
      @MintelThames 10 місяців тому

      Well it’s an ION station nowadays, but it went defunct (rip :( oh no).

  • @PowerPistonsFanatic
    @PowerPistonsFanatic 5 років тому +1

    I think I traveled to San Antonio many times for KLRN, but I didn't watch KLRU, Austin.

  • @tannerin
    @tannerin 12 років тому +1

    I wasn't alive at the time these were shown, nor do I live in America, but my favourites are the KCET and NETV idents. WETA also has quite nice music.

  • @BigBluePlanet
    @BigBluePlanet 14 років тому +1

    @TJCoyote30 Don't know how to link it, but search on 'vegetable soup intro'. Find the one by user jacksorengan. This intro was used on PBS stations throughout NYS for instructinal programming during the 70s, and I imagine, the 80s. Let me know.

    • @tfbotm
      @tfbotm 5 років тому

      That's the Bureau of Mass Communications by the NYSED. Here's the ID: watch?v=weLPjrdqIPg

  • @78rosabosa
    @78rosabosa 12 років тому +1

    The ''wcet-tv'' Text is written in Avant Garde.

  • @millenniumman75
    @millenniumman75 11 років тому +1

    1:37 - WCET Cincinnati, Ohio - Pete Rose was in one of those shots along with the Cincinnati Ballet. Coney Island roller coaster (It might have been Kings Island, but that's technically not in Cincy).

  • @disneyfan85
    @disneyfan85 17 років тому +1

    I vaguely remember KQED, because I used to live in the Bay Area in my youth (where they have another PBS station, KTEH, for San Jose, where I lived) until I moved up to the Sacramento area ten years ago. How did you get all those logos, anyway?

  • @ultraplayer7436
    @ultraplayer7436 5 років тому +1

    I lived in lots of member stations from PBS

  • @AGENTARMES
    @AGENTARMES 6 років тому +4

    i remember the san diego one growing up

  • @Miss_Triangle-123
    @Miss_Triangle-123 8 місяців тому +2

    0:00-0:40

  • @dusicamitic3763
    @dusicamitic3763 7 місяців тому +2

    2:57 🎸👨‍🎤🎙

  • @CelesteK
    @CelesteK 13 років тому +1

    WXXI Rochester and WNED Buffalo were my PBS stations but that WLVT 39 logo just gives me the heebie jeebies. Ugh! :P

  • @susanwade1895
    @susanwade1895 6 років тому +6

    0:14 escape from the atmosphere

    • @samsungsmartfridge655
      @samsungsmartfridge655 5 років тому

      Stop following me

    • @MintelThames
      @MintelThames 10 місяців тому

      The logo just zooms in like the flipping V of Doom (or rather the Running Peter Griffin meme)

  • @FacebankMan
    @FacebankMan 3 роки тому +2

    3:04 OMG ITS MAH STATION!!!!!

  • @rem145
    @rem145 14 років тому +1

    Wlvt ch 39! Wow that brings back memories of Sesame Street and Mr Rogers when I grew up

  • @douro20
    @douro20 17 років тому

    Not exactly sure, some were done by Big Sky Studios, some by Pixar and some by PDI, but a lot of the better ones were from PDI.

  • @travelsonic
    @travelsonic 16 років тому +2

    0:14-0:17 sounds like a small piece from Mannheim Steamroller's "Escape from the Atmosphere" ... 5:16 - 5:22 of Mannheim Steamroller's "Escape from the Atmosphere" matches PERFECTLY, instruments and all, to the piece used.

  • @MichaelOKeefe2009
    @MichaelOKeefe2009 2 роки тому +1

    WQED has been famously known for Mister Rodger's Neighborhood.

  • @disneyfan85
    @disneyfan85 17 років тому +1

    On what show did the KQED logo come from, was what I was trying to ask.

  • @dusicamitic3763
    @dusicamitic3763 7 місяців тому +1

    2:32 輝く!

  • @Darkside_Eminem
    @Darkside_Eminem 4 роки тому +2

    1:24 my station 🙂

  • @henrys3629
    @henrys3629 10 років тому +4

    This is the video that started everyone doing PBS logo videos. Most of it is copied from here and edited a bit, yet have quite a few views. This was uploaded in 2007!!!

  • @CelesteK
    @CelesteK 14 років тому

    @TelephoneRock4ever WNED Buffalo and WXXI Rochester were my local PBS stations and the thing that stinks about WNED vs WXXI is that they aren't showing the new Doctor Who shows. :(

  • @andrewschroy6368
    @andrewschroy6368 12 років тому

    Actually, I think I recall seeing a WTVS logo on some national shows back in the 90s. If memory serves me right, it had a green background with the text "WTVS" inside a dark green circle, and "Detroit" below it (and I think "FROM" above "WTVS"), using a generic synth jingle.

  • @travelsonic
    @travelsonic 15 років тому +2

    0:13 is from Escape from the Atmosphere... a kickass song, IMO.

  • @disneyfan85
    @disneyfan85 16 років тому

    Well, read the title carefully. It reads "PBS Logo Demo circa 1989/1990", which means that many of them could be from 1989.

  • @JasonDelarosa2000
    @JasonDelarosa2000 2 роки тому

    I think WGBH was the logo on this demo closest to where Meredith Vieira was born.

  • @CelesteK
    @CelesteK 13 років тому +1

    WNED and WXXI were my Public Television Stations. :)

  • @Tophersangel
    @Tophersangel 9 років тому +5

    And I also love WCET

  • @furbearingbrick
    @furbearingbrick 17 років тому +1

    Oh yes, now I remember. I've only noticed the resemblance recently.

  • @WorldNews92
    @WorldNews92 15 років тому

    Out of all these logos, barring the PBS logo, only WGBH, KET, and WETA have the same logos here as they do today (even if the animations have changed).

  • @Marbles471
    @Marbles471 16 років тому

    The WCET Cincinnati one looks to me like it was made in the 70s (we already know the WGBH Boston one was).
    WLVT Allentown also has a very 70s-ish feeling to it, but because of the graphics it looks like early 80s. In fact, it seems easy to tell the "newer" ones apart from ones that were made in the earlier 80s, because of the more awkward graphics.
    Interestingly, nowadays WNET New York doesn't brand itself as "WNET" anymore---their logo is the big word "Thirteen" (as in channel 13).

  • @douro20
    @douro20 17 років тому

    A lot of the 3d-animated ones were done by Pacific Data Image.

  • @dedricreidjr7118
    @dedricreidjr7118 Рік тому +3

    3:12 #BlueCandyMix

  • @disneyfan85
    @disneyfan85 14 років тому

    KCET is no longer the PBS affiliate of Los Angeles! Now that honor goes to KOCE, which is also featured (at 2:50)!

  • @disneyfan85
    @disneyfan85 17 років тому

    Why didn't you include an ID of KVIE? That's Sacramento's PBS station?

  • @KBHmu
    @KBHmu 5 років тому

    These are beautiful. Sad to see that kids with jumbled usernames decided to take over the comment section.

  • @WillWill45
    @WillWill45 17 років тому

    There were no WHA-TV indents. Please include those.

  • @pridethelowbattery2fan532
    @pridethelowbattery2fan532 Рік тому +1

    WHYY (Won't They Leave Me Alone)?

  • @dr.rapids
    @dr.rapids 6 років тому +9

    Los Angeles better than everyone else in California

    • @dr.rapids
      @dr.rapids Рік тому

      @SrTiburonYVector blud replying to shit that’s 5 years old ☠️

  • @disneyfan85
    @disneyfan85 17 років тому

    I saw a new version of WETA yesterday, which evidently sponsored Ken Burns' documentary on World War II called "The War" (the next part of which I'm watching even as I write this).

  • @CappyDash
    @CappyDash 5 років тому

    Did you know that WIPB and WPSX share the same jingle?

  • @ThePBS-STArchive
    @ThePBS-STArchive 4 роки тому +3

    1:02

  • @dusicamitic3763
    @dusicamitic3763 7 місяців тому +1

    Magical,

  • @Miss_Triangle-123
    @Miss_Triangle-123 8 місяців тому +2

    OMG!

  • @pm41224
    @pm41224 14 років тому +1

    THEY INCLUDED THE KET LOGO!

    • @p-head2157
      @p-head2157 2 роки тому

      YES, IN FACT, ITS MY PBS STATION

  • @Ian16545
    @Ian16545 17 років тому

    And what about my hometown station, WOSU (Columbus, OH)?

  • @dusicamitic3763
    @dusicamitic3763 7 місяців тому +1

    今夜は買い物に行く予定いですね!遅いせするわ、青い鳥これまでうららさん、わかった、寝る時間です。その後はエピックスーパースターウィングへ。WINGSツアーライブ!

  • @FloatingAppleProductions
    @FloatingAppleProductions 16 років тому +3

    WNET New York! Yeah!

  • @aquapackelpzy616
    @aquapackelpzy616 9 років тому +13

    ALL HAIL WHYY TV!

  • @tvmattkc
    @tvmattkc 12 років тому

    No, it was always a PBS station. WFLD is the Fox affiliate for Chicago.

  • @snowedin8959
    @snowedin8959 17 років тому

    WNET is the second station shown...

  • @AaronBruceLadner
    @AaronBruceLadner 14 років тому

    @travelsonic WHYY produces the Popular PBS Series "Hometime".

  • @supervladimir2039
    @supervladimir2039 4 роки тому +1

    Nostalgia.

  • @foxspyfox
    @foxspyfox 16 років тому

    Did they really use the same music for both Muncie and Penn State?