BTW don't forget that these bigger motors have way more TORQUE than the stock Arrma motor, meaning more control in the air. It's not just about high speed. Just saying.
Jason, you don’t need a different motor. Throw the 43t on for your pinion with the 39t spur you already have installed. You should hit about 60-61mph on pavement with that gearing, and probably 55-57mph in the grass. Temps should still be good even for summer. Have fun brother! 👍🏻
Thanks for this video I’ve been messing with gears 34/34 gearing is a bit much cogs low end and heats up a lot I’m now running 45/23 and it’s a beast lol thanks for the vids. If many people mess sign the gearing
I think that you need the new Castle XLX2 ESC in there with 39/39 gearing. I'm going to try it out on my Outcast 8s very soon. That esc you are using is rated for vehicles up to 25lbs. You might be taxing it too much. Honestly I think that the Kraton 8s is too damn heavy. That's why I sold it and kept my more fun Outcast 8s
Hi, great video, thanks for sharing! I have an Outcast 8s and I just bought the mmx8s and the 800kv combo like you are running. I'm gonna start with the 42/47 gearing as this is what I bought. But watching your video, I think I may have made an error, maybe the shorter wb of the outcast will help keeping it ``alive``
Great helpful vid bro . I’m doing the exact same trials myself. Man it’s been hard . Hope you get it going hard like they should . Rich duperbash seems to have his going hard as. He gets some crazy air.
Quite a few owners are saying the 1100kv motor is the sweet spot for speed / torque I’ve just got hold of the HobbyWing 1100 but haven’t run it yet because of bad weather so cannot confirm 🤔
Awesome video it's almost like you made this video just for me as I'm exactly on the fence with 800kv motor in the shopping cart. If I wasn't going to go with the 800 what motor would you suggest that's much more powerful than the stock? I already have a Mamba Monster 8X on the bench ready to go brand new
How are your motor temps doing on 1:1? I have the Firma 800kv motor paired with the Firma 160 on 30/47. I’m getting 45+mph, but my temps are ~135F+ without an external fan. The ambient temps are 83F
Jason have you tried the 34/34 yet? Im in the process of doing this with my second 8s I just got. I was thinking about running 34t spur and a 40t pinion. Keep us posted what you find out.
@@kiwirc4032 I actually used a 39t spur and 34t pinion. Arrma make a stock 39t spur now or you can use a 8mm arrma spool gear and that works good as well.
I don't get why everyone wants to run 800kv. I'm loving the 1100kv motor. 27/47 gearing. wheelies all day. haven't tested top speed yet though. but it's snappy and fun ..
I have xlx2 800 kv combo on spektrum 4s 5000 nah 80c and this motor doesn’t even know it’s attached to a 8s Kraton. Battery run time sucks but while I got it if I give it more than three-quarter throttle from a dead stop, it’ll put its cell phones roof every single time I just think the 800 KV handles the weight of a heavier rig better than the 1100 the 1100s are great for the in fraction GT which I’m lucky enough to have a all plastic 8s and then a shelf, queen that I built up from a limitless roller into a all metal heart, racing aluminum gear boxes, I mean every single thing on it is hot race in aluminum piece of art should start my own channel
I have the mamba combo xlx2 × 800kv for my outcast exb 8s ...I want to run on 39t × 47 spur that good combination I only want for bashing in grass I don't want heating issues???
If that's the 2028, you'll need to gear it to the moon to make substantially higher top speed than the 4985 1250k. Remember.. Even though you're utilizing a much larger motor, it still generates 50% less kv
I have the same motor 2028 I am having trouble with the pinion and the-spur not meshing . can you run the stocks Spur. can you tell me where to buy them thanks really appreciate the video
Hey Jason I just picked up a Kraton 8s and want you opinion on the best way to turn it into a wheelie machine? Stock it doesn’t seem to want to wheelie very much
7 mph gain is good 👍....shit 1 mph is good. A gain is a gain. Could be worse Could be slower or less torque. By the way how is the torque after the gear change. They say higher pinion more speed but less torque unfortunately for tye these brushless systems are powerful enough to not loose any bottom end.
Hey Jason I’m getting a kraton 8s with the xlx2 esc but can’t decide on which motor 800 or 1100 kv? What would you recommend honestly and what gearing you feel is best? I’ll probably be getting the badland tires like you have and the servo too.
Some people are having issues with the 1100kv motor and that esc. My Outcast 8s with stock tires and the XLX2 and 800kv motor with 39/39 gearing is probably hitting around 50mph on grass too like this video. I would run the 1100kv motor from Castle with 24/34 gearing. That would make it get to 50+MPH on grass and pavement in a hurry. I think people are having issues with the 1100kv motor because the one I saw running was not geared correctly. Recommended gearing for 1100kv motors is 25/35. That's what I run on my xmaxx trucks with 1100kv motors from Hobbywing and they are ballistic and run perfectly.
@@joseCalderon1976 yeah I got the 1100 kv hobby wing motor with max 5 in my XMAXX as well with belt drive I haven’t driven it yet lol. I think the belt drive is 20/30. I just want to know what’s best combo for kraton 8S before I buy it here soon and spend all this money I want it right. Will I have to change the spur out ?
@@MrLoony690 I used the PPS slider motor mount that bolts right into the Outcast/Kraton 8s motor mount. That's the easiest and most cheapest way to do it. I know it works for the Hobbywing and Castle motors but I'm not sure about that motor you mentioned. I would ask in the Arrma forums since all kinds of motors have been used. Sorry no experience with Leopard.
BTW don't forget that these bigger motors have way more TORQUE than the stock Arrma motor, meaning more control in the air. It's not just about high speed. Just saying.
Jason, you don’t need a different motor. Throw the 43t on for your pinion with the 39t spur you already have installed. You should hit about 60-61mph on pavement with that gearing, and probably 55-57mph in the grass. Temps should still be good even for summer. Have fun brother! 👍🏻
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@@joaquincody6949 meaning?
Will I still be able to get wheelies with 39 spur and 42 pinion? Right now I still have the stock 47 spur with a 34 pinion and I get nice wheelies.
Sometimes you gotta tweak stuff to get things all dialed in the way you want it. 👍
Thanks for this video I’ve been messing with gears 34/34 gearing is a bit much cogs low end and heats up a lot I’m now running 45/23 and it’s a beast lol thanks for the vids. If many people mess sign the gearing
I think that you need the new Castle XLX2 ESC in there with 39/39 gearing. I'm going to try it out on my Outcast 8s very soon. That esc you are using is rated for vehicles up to 25lbs. You might be taxing it too much. Honestly I think that the Kraton 8s is too damn heavy. That's why I sold it and kept my more fun Outcast 8s
I totally agree the K8s is ridiculously heavy wish I could sell mine
Hi, great video, thanks for sharing! I have an Outcast 8s and I just bought the mmx8s and the 800kv combo like you are running. I'm gonna start with the 42/47 gearing as this is what I bought. But watching your video, I think I may have made an error, maybe the shorter wb of the outcast will help keeping it ``alive``
Great helpful vid bro . I’m doing the exact same trials myself. Man it’s been hard . Hope you get it going hard like they should . Rich duperbash seems to have his going hard as. He gets some crazy air.
Quite a few owners are saying the 1100kv motor is the sweet spot for speed / torque
I’ve just got hold of the HobbyWing 1100 but haven’t run it yet because of bad weather so cannot confirm 🤔
I agree, I'm hoping to get the 800 going the way I want it so I don't have to buy another motor.
DUPERBASH is the man.💪💪😬
It’s a HEAVY 1/5 rig not designed to specifically go fast you’d probably be MUCH MUCH MUCH HAPPIER with the 6s 1/8 or just throw an 1100kv motor in it
Awesome video it's almost like you made this video just for me as I'm exactly on the fence with 800kv motor in the shopping cart.
If I wasn't going to go with the 800 what motor would you suggest that's much more powerful than the stock? I already have a Mamba Monster 8X on the bench ready to go brand new
How are your motor temps doing on 1:1? I have the Firma 800kv motor paired with the Firma 160 on 30/47. I’m getting 45+mph, but my temps are ~135F+ without an external fan. The ambient temps are 83F
Jason have you tried the 34/34 yet? Im in the process of doing this with my second 8s I just got. I was thinking about running 34t spur and a 40t pinion. Keep us posted what you find out.
Not yet. Going to give the 39/39 another run this weekend first.
@joshherrman how did you find the 34t spur and 40t pinion
@@kiwirc4032 I actually used a 39t spur and 34t pinion. Arrma make a stock 39t spur now or you can use a 8mm arrma spool gear and that works good as well.
34/34 or 39/39 is still 1/1. Won't be much difference if any
@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs I just got xlx2 1100kv what gearing do you recommend for that set up for 55mph or higher
I’m second great video!! Can you make more videos about the x maxx pls!
I don't get why everyone wants to run 800kv. I'm loving the 1100kv motor. 27/47 gearing. wheelies all day. haven't tested top speed yet though. but it's snappy and fun ..
I have xlx2 800 kv combo on spektrum 4s 5000 nah 80c and this motor doesn’t even know it’s attached to a 8s Kraton. Battery run time sucks but while I got it if I give it more than three-quarter throttle from a dead stop, it’ll put its cell phones roof every single time I just think the 800 KV handles the weight of a heavier rig better than the 1100 the 1100s are great for the in fraction GT which I’m lucky enough to have a all plastic 8s and then a shelf, queen that I built up from a limitless roller into a all metal heart, racing aluminum gear boxes, I mean every single thing on it is hot race in aluminum piece of art should start my own channel
@@brucebruce3964 I finally stepped up and threw in a 780kv and changed to 1.5 mod gears 23/30 .. still a beast. The motor doesn't even get hot now 🤙🤙
@@arrmamafia hell yeah.
I have the mamba combo xlx2 × 800kv for my outcast exb 8s ...I want to run on 39t × 47 spur that good combination I only want for bashing in grass I don't want heating issues???
If that's the 2028, you'll need to gear it to the moon to make substantially higher top speed than the 4985 1250k. Remember.. Even though you're utilizing a much larger motor, it still generates 50% less kv
Are you having any heating issues cause i was thinking to do the same
Hey I just got the arrma Keaton 8s I’m wondering if I should spend all of this money . Is it worth it .
save ur money you will need it to replace the a arm lol man they break quick
Are those tires belted?
I have the same motor 2028 I am having trouble with the pinion and the-spur not meshing . can you run the stocks Spur. can you tell me where to buy them thanks really appreciate the video
Hey Jason I just picked up a Kraton 8s and want you opinion on the best way to turn it into a wheelie machine? Stock it doesn’t seem to want to wheelie very much
You can swap the pinion to a 22 or 23t and up your punch to 5 on the esc. Good lipos too.
F the wheelies your putting the power to the ground. But they are fun 😎
I used this exact gearing and somehow bent the motor shaft. Also looks like the pinion was spinning on the shaft
Why not just keep the stock gearing in it ?
Are you still running the same setup? gearing?
7 mph gain is good 👍....shit 1 mph is good. A gain is a gain. Could be worse Could be slower or less torque. By the way how is the torque after the gear change. They say higher pinion more speed but less torque unfortunately for tye these brushless systems are powerful enough to not loose any bottom end.
Castle XLX2 will make it more rowdy
😂 castle CREMATIONS suck!!!!!
Is that duel fan good
What batteries and specs do u recommend?
Kv and cell count is so close to stock on 8s.
Change the esc. XLX or XLX2
Get castle link and tune punch settings and many more settings on there
Need the revs . Thats what its all about.
How is this car doing now? 😊
I no longer have it. Running the EXB now.
@@JasonPerrinRCVlogsmake a video of it? Pleeeease 😊
We’re first!
Hey Jason I’m getting a kraton 8s with the xlx2 esc but can’t decide on which motor 800 or 1100 kv? What would you recommend honestly and what gearing you feel is best? I’ll probably be getting the badland tires like you have and the servo too.
Some people are having issues with the 1100kv motor and that esc. My Outcast 8s with stock tires and the XLX2 and 800kv motor with 39/39 gearing is probably hitting around 50mph on grass too like this video. I would run the 1100kv motor from Castle with 24/34 gearing. That would make it get to 50+MPH on grass and pavement in a hurry. I think people are having issues with the 1100kv motor because the one I saw running was not geared correctly. Recommended gearing for 1100kv motors is 25/35. That's what I run on my xmaxx trucks with 1100kv motors from Hobbywing and they are ballistic and run perfectly.
@@joseCalderon1976 yeah I got the 1100 kv hobby wing motor with max 5 in my XMAXX as well with belt drive I haven’t driven it yet lol. I think the belt drive is 20/30. I just want to know what’s best combo for kraton 8S before I buy it here soon and spend all this money I want it right. Will I have to change the spur out ?
@@joseCalderon1976 I was also thinking about the leopard 58113 1050 kv and max 5 for it. Do you know what mount I could use for that?
@@MrLoony690 I did. Now Arrma sells a 39T Spur gear. You don't have to, but I did so that I don't have to use monster sized pinions.
@@MrLoony690 I used the PPS slider motor mount that bolts right into the Outcast/Kraton 8s motor mount. That's the easiest and most cheapest way to do it. I know it works for the Hobbywing and Castle motors but I'm not sure about that motor you mentioned. I would ask in the Arrma forums since all kinds of motors have been used. Sorry no experience with Leopard.
You sound like alot like Chad Daniels.. like it's erie how similar to him you sound
I also think Rich duperbash sounds a lot like v2 vids as well.