i'm here for it, in 2024 i made a serious effort to learn the fretboard via major scale, intervals, triads. I'm still learning though, and don't have much practice w/ 3nps. i spent a lot of time learning the 5 major scale shapes. thanks for the content.
Hello I love it to find a good new channel. Iam playing now for 7 years everyday 5 years iam playing leaning new stuff 8 h or much more. Atm iam little stuck by "cafe 1930" a really hard Tango I have to learn it before I go to the next Camino Santiago and their are only 1 acceptable tutorial for it. The second part is so hard but maybe I can show us if u know it to play maybe or maybe a second video idea what I would really nice is how u learn long and hard songs. Its nice to get a other perspective. What ever I wanna thank u too because of youtuber like u I can make the place around me to a better place and inspire other to do the same. It's really hard to do good videos where beginner and intermediate understand what the youtuber teacher mean and I look you all 😂. Would be amazing if u would chare this stuff but if not np✌🏽.buen Camino and God luck with the channel
I’m coming another video which you recommended to give this one a look, love the video and concepts and I’ve joined your skool, thank you for all your hard work
I used songperformer, it's free and you can visualise the fretboard, notes, degrees, intervals, many tunings and not just guitar, also see circle of fifths and overlay 2 root notes! It's in the music theory and magic spells section.
Brilliant! I saw a vid this week saying something very similar!!! After learning the caged 5 shapes and modal arpeggio's & pentatonic off the major this is awesome for pulling all that together!!! Thank you for the share 🙏 Very appreciated! This is definitely going on the daily practice list! Thank you! 😎🙏🕊️✨🎉🎸💥
are you sure this is right? Position 5 looks wrong. The top string goes 12, 14, 16. But then in Position 6 it goes 14,15,17. Position 5 is at 3:19 and position 6 is at 3:30.
Isn’t there a mistake in Position 5? On the high E string you have a dot on fret 16. That’s a G#. The dot should be on fret 15, G natural… Also, I don’t see the full chord shapes in the position diagrams. I do see them in the pentatonic diagrams. I guess I’m not sure how you define the position diagrams. Finally, I’m not sure how you recommend that I practice these shapes. Should I practice the scale shapes and the pentatonic shapes separately? or together? or improvising with a backing track?
Do you really need to know the pentatonic scales? Why not just skip the middle man, learn the full major/minor scales which obviously contain the pentatonic notes , and triads (which are harmonious with every chord in the scale (except diminished?). Then people won’t get trapped in this pentatonic rut where everything sounds the same. I have been learning guitar for a while and trying to apply my knowledge from the tenor sax. I don’t get this obsession with pentatonics. Also on keyboards the first scales that you learn are not pentatonic. They are the full major or minor. Perhaps I am wrong, but I think that you can’t play any vocal melody exactly as a singer sings using pentatonic. The sax imitates the voice. You are basically singing . Of course all the pentatonic notes are used. Triads are used the most. On the piano you naturally gravitate to using the chord notes for your Melodie’s. Your hand are already in the chord positions and you improvise from the chords and expand from the full scale . It’s much easier to visualise on a piano or sax. So please tell me . Why are guitarists obsessed with pentatonics. Can you play the vocal melody to " `I will always love you" by Whitney Huston on guitar using pentatonics? I don’t think so. Or any other either. This is why I love this guy so much and have subscribed. He is basically approaching guitar like a piano. Only the fretboard makes this ten times more difficult.
i think you just don't get the theory behind pentatonics they are not scales, they are 5 note arpeggios, for exemple a major pentatonic is 1 2 3 5 6, could also be seen as a major 6/9 arpeggio, inside the pentatonic, you have a major arpeggio + 6th and 9th to use in between the chord tones same for the minor pentatonic, its a minor 7 add11 arpeggio and the pentatonic don't sound all the same, but i get where this comes from everyone relates pentatonics to the same old boomer licks that at this point became a meme this section is a good exemple of pentatonics being used to its full potential ua-cam.com/video/oFhGuZ76W0s/v-deo.htmlsi=ur73WVy4m1M9dJ4m&t=15 vocalists, sax and every other melodic/monophonic instruments plays pentatonics, because they can be played over every chord of the scale without clashing tritones and sharp dissonant, and you dont need to play all the notes of a scale, because they will already be implied by the harmony, and playing a pentatonic over each chord of the key, changes the way you perceive the melody
Pentatonic (major) just drops the 4th and 7th because they are so awkward sounding in modern music against the normal chord progressions of a key. So, you could learn the major/minor scales and just drop the "bad" notes and you'd be doing the same thing. That said, when other chords in the key use those notes, they are safe to play while that chord is being visited - they often sound amazing especially in minor keys.
@ Hi thanks for taking the time to the detailed reply. (And the interesting link). I understand your explanation. I am not too strong on theory but the pentatonic is revered to as a scale. The pentatonic scale. It’s found in all scale books and is called the Pentatonic scale by everyone. Of course on the sax, we know the pentatonic scale. The same way that we know that triads help us connect with each chord progression harmoniously. But you haven’t answered my question. Some pentatonic licks sound amazing. But is it possible to play any vocal melody to any famous song with just pentatonic notes….? I think that the answer is no. Because there are always passing notes. It’s the reason full Major, minor and modes exist. Pentatonics are a safe way to play. But if you use the major or minor scales and trust your ears you won’t go wrong either. Majority of notes being pentatonics but with wonderful passing 4 and 7th adding colour. At least that’s how I see it. On sax and piano improv or song writing, I groove with the chord progression of that key, using the triads of each chord in the progression as my anchors. The guitar is a different Instrument. I find it incredibly complex . Really difficult to visualise. Thank you for your response and you have certainly given me reason to look at the pentatonics more like intervals than scales. 🙏
@@videosforthegoodlife2253 Thanks for thé reply. That is my point exactly. We use our ears to decide which notes of major and minor scales to leave out . Gravitating mostly to notes in the pentatonic scale contained within. As I have replied to the other comment, using the triads of each chord within progression of the given key , as an anchor for developing a solo, to me makes more sense . And perhaps guitarists don’t understand where I am coming from as guitar is my third instrument.But back to my original question….Pick up a guitar and sight read the melody to any song, the vocal line and you will not find a single song without fourth or sevenths being scattered throughout. In the example I gave. "I will always love you" by Whitney Houston Try and play that note for note with her vocal line as transcribed…..And I have played the solo , played by Kirk Whalem for many years. As well as his instrumental version of the song. And of course there are many pentatonic runs, but the 7th in particular is there in many places as a passing note to the root . My favourite guitar player is Michael Schenker who is very melodic, who uses the melodic minor a lot with the raised 7. Giving it a resolving sound for arriving just before the root octave . This is very much a singers tool. Perhaps I am wrong. I do love the guitar. But my role with the guitar is pretty simple. Rhythm guitar, as a singer sax in simple music like John Mellencamp. Who they have never heard of here in France 😂 I am on a mission. I’m English and I have a band of French musiciens to bring Heartland rock to the French, who have never heard of it. And that includes Tom Petty too😱 At Least the good lord will welcome me with open arms for even trying… That’s the plan anyway…Take care my friend , and thanks again
The pentatonics are a phenomenal framework for guitar. The fact that they ARE the middleman makes it a great tool to learn your way around the fretboard, develop an ear for tasty notes, and build your interval knowledge on a.k.a. Modes. You can take your pentatonic intervals and drop 2 notes to get your basic arpegio, or raise/lower the different intervals to get a modal sound. You can add and change two intervals to get an 7 note scale. I think the pitfalls you are worried about is really more about the pentatonic shapes. If that’s the case I would agree, it is a pitfall. I really think beginner lessons should get away from that infamous box 1 shape all together and either show boxes 5, 1, and 2 as one section and 2, 3, &4 as another. I think this would be much more useful in the long run. Or focus on the natural notes and show how the intervals are built around it. That box 1 is a progress killer.
i'm here for it, in 2024 i made a serious effort to learn the fretboard via major scale, intervals, triads. I'm still learning though, and don't have much practice w/ 3nps. i spent a lot of time learning the 5 major scale shapes. thanks for the content.
I knew this info but never put it together this way, thank you!
Hello I love it to find a good new channel. Iam playing now for 7 years everyday 5 years iam playing leaning new stuff 8 h or much more. Atm iam little stuck by "cafe 1930" a really hard Tango I have to learn it before I go to the next Camino Santiago and their are only 1 acceptable tutorial for it. The second part is so hard but maybe I can show us if u know it to play maybe or maybe a second video idea what I would really nice is how u learn long and hard songs. Its nice to get a other perspective. What ever I wanna thank u too because of youtuber like u I can make the place around me to a better place and inspire other to do the same. It's really hard to do good videos where beginner and intermediate understand what the youtuber teacher mean and I look you all 😂. Would be amazing if u would chare this stuff but if not np✌🏽.buen Camino and God luck with the channel
I made my mind up to finally learn the guitar the way it was made to be. Thanks for this fundamental as a segway.
I’m coming another video which you recommended to give this one a look, love the video and concepts and I’ve joined your skool, thank you for all your hard work
British Jesus is out here teaching guitar scales from heaven and I'm here for it.
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Quality is getting better :). I think a little less brightness on the camera would do great
Your videos have came on a long way. You deserve to do well
Thank you
Awesome. Please keep these awesome videos coming. You are answering all the questions that I have had for years. Subscribed. 🙏🙏🙏
Awesome insight sir.
I used songperformer, it's free and you can visualise the fretboard, notes, degrees, intervals, many tunings and not just guitar, also see circle of fifths and overlay 2 root notes! It's in the music theory and magic spells section.
.net not .com
Where is this magical program you speak of? Thank you.
Brilliant! I saw a vid this week saying something very similar!!! After learning the caged 5 shapes and modal arpeggio's & pentatonic off the major this is awesome for pulling all that together!!! Thank you for the share 🙏 Very appreciated! This is definitely going on the daily practice list! Thank you! 😎🙏🕊️✨🎉🎸💥
are you sure this is right? Position 5 looks wrong. The top string goes 12, 14, 16. But then in Position 6 it goes 14,15,17. Position 5 is at 3:19 and position 6 is at 3:30.
Wait so in position two a cord you can mix a major and minor together
Yes, you can choose to play either the G major pentatonic or the A minor pentatonic
@@FabsDolan or A Dorian... right? add the 2 and major 6 for the full scale
Isn’t there a mistake in Position 5? On the high E string you have a dot on fret 16. That’s a G#. The dot should be on fret 15, G natural…
Also,
I don’t see the full chord shapes in the position diagrams. I do see them in the pentatonic diagrams. I guess I’m not sure how you define the position diagrams.
Finally, I’m not sure how you recommend that I practice these shapes. Should I practice the scale shapes and the pentatonic shapes separately? or together? or improvising with a backing track?
Confusing
Do you really need to know the pentatonic scales? Why not just skip the middle man, learn the full major/minor scales which obviously contain the pentatonic notes , and triads (which are harmonious with every chord in the scale (except diminished?). Then people won’t get trapped in this pentatonic rut where everything sounds the same. I have been learning guitar for a while and trying to apply my knowledge from the tenor sax. I don’t get this obsession with pentatonics. Also on keyboards the first scales that you learn are not pentatonic. They are the full major or minor. Perhaps I am wrong, but I think that you can’t play any vocal melody exactly as a singer sings using pentatonic. The sax imitates the voice. You are basically singing . Of course all the pentatonic notes are used. Triads are used the most. On the piano you naturally gravitate to using the chord notes for your Melodie’s. Your hand are already in the chord positions and you improvise from the chords and expand from the full scale . It’s much easier to visualise on a piano or sax. So please tell me . Why are guitarists obsessed with pentatonics. Can you play the vocal melody to " `I will always love you" by Whitney Huston on guitar using pentatonics? I don’t think so. Or any other either. This is why I love this guy so much and have subscribed. He is basically approaching guitar like a piano. Only the fretboard makes this ten times more difficult.
i think you just don't get the theory behind pentatonics
they are not scales, they are 5 note arpeggios, for exemple
a major pentatonic is 1 2 3 5 6, could also be seen as a major 6/9 arpeggio, inside the pentatonic, you have a major arpeggio + 6th and 9th to use in between the chord tones
same for the minor pentatonic, its a minor 7 add11 arpeggio
and the pentatonic don't sound all the same, but i get where this comes from
everyone relates pentatonics to the same old boomer licks that at this point became a meme
this section is a good exemple of pentatonics being used to its full potential ua-cam.com/video/oFhGuZ76W0s/v-deo.htmlsi=ur73WVy4m1M9dJ4m&t=15
vocalists, sax and every other melodic/monophonic instruments plays pentatonics, because they can be played over every chord of the scale without clashing tritones and sharp dissonant, and you dont need to play all the notes of a scale, because they will already be implied by the harmony, and playing a pentatonic over each chord of the key, changes the way you perceive the melody
Pentatonic (major) just drops the 4th and 7th because they are so awkward sounding in modern music against the normal chord progressions of a key. So, you could learn the major/minor scales and just drop the "bad" notes and you'd be doing the same thing. That said, when other chords in the key use those notes, they are safe to play while that chord is being visited - they often sound amazing especially in minor keys.
@ Hi thanks for taking the time to the detailed reply. (And the interesting link). I understand your explanation. I am not too strong on theory but the pentatonic is revered to as a scale. The pentatonic scale. It’s found in all scale books and is called the Pentatonic scale by everyone. Of course on the sax, we know the pentatonic scale. The same way that we know that triads help us connect with each chord progression harmoniously. But you haven’t answered my question. Some pentatonic licks sound amazing. But is it possible to play any vocal melody to any famous song with just pentatonic notes….? I think that the answer is no. Because there are always passing notes. It’s the reason full Major, minor and modes exist.
Pentatonics are a safe way to play. But if you use the major or minor scales and trust your ears you won’t go wrong either. Majority of notes being pentatonics but with wonderful passing 4 and 7th adding colour. At least that’s how I see it. On sax and piano improv or song writing, I groove with the chord progression of that key, using the triads of each chord in the progression as my anchors. The guitar is a different Instrument. I find it incredibly complex . Really difficult to visualise. Thank you for your response and you have certainly given me reason to look at the pentatonics more like intervals than scales. 🙏
@@videosforthegoodlife2253 Thanks for thé reply. That is my point exactly. We use our ears to decide which notes of major and minor scales to leave out . Gravitating mostly to notes in the pentatonic scale contained within. As I have replied to the other comment, using the triads of each chord within progression of the given key , as an anchor for developing a solo, to me makes more sense . And perhaps guitarists don’t understand where I am coming from as guitar is my third instrument.But back to my original question….Pick up a guitar and sight read the melody to any song, the vocal line and you will not find a single song without fourth or sevenths being scattered throughout. In the example I gave. "I will always love you" by Whitney Houston Try and play that note for note with her vocal line as transcribed…..And I have played the solo , played by Kirk Whalem for many years. As well as his instrumental version of the song. And of course there are many pentatonic runs, but the 7th in particular is there in many places as a passing note to the root . My favourite guitar player is Michael Schenker who is very melodic, who uses the melodic minor a lot with the raised 7. Giving it a resolving sound for arriving just before the root octave . This is very much a singers tool. Perhaps I am wrong. I do love the guitar. But my role with the guitar is pretty simple. Rhythm guitar, as a singer sax in simple music like John Mellencamp. Who they have never heard of here in France 😂 I am on a mission. I’m English and I have a band of French musiciens to bring Heartland rock to the French, who have never heard of it. And that includes Tom Petty too😱 At Least the good lord will welcome me with open arms for even trying…
That’s the plan anyway…Take care my friend , and thanks again
The pentatonics are a phenomenal framework for guitar. The fact that they ARE the middleman makes it a great tool to learn your way around the fretboard, develop an ear for tasty notes, and build your interval knowledge on a.k.a. Modes. You can take your pentatonic intervals and drop 2 notes to get your basic arpegio, or raise/lower the different intervals to get a modal sound. You can add and change two intervals to get an 7 note scale. I think the pitfalls you are worried about is really more about the pentatonic shapes. If that’s the case I would agree, it is a pitfall. I really think beginner lessons should get away from that infamous box 1 shape all together and either show boxes 5, 1, and 2 as one section and 2, 3, &4 as another. I think this would be much more useful in the long run. Or focus on the natural notes and show how the intervals are built around it. That box 1 is a progress killer.