Riding Retro Bike Tech | GCN Tech Show Ep. 93

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  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  5 років тому +25

    Does retro bike tech belong in a museum or on the road? Do you ride and enjoy your old bike parts? Let us know in the comments below 👇

    • @christianproveil8451
      @christianproveil8451 5 років тому +2

      Hi

    • @williamfarquharson1102
      @williamfarquharson1102 5 років тому +6

      A bike without a rider is a sad bike

    • @samalvarezcaswell5975
      @samalvarezcaswell5975 5 років тому

      On the road are you mad?!!!! Jon u r breathtaking btw

    • @hogdog567
      @hogdog567 5 років тому +3

      Frames, forks, seat posts, headsets etc, there's no big disadvantage. Everything else carries a performance penalty.

    • @endcensorship874
      @endcensorship874 5 років тому

      @yurii werenkop Not even close. Renco on a huffy is faster than anyone on this site today.

  • @al3xandr3i
    @al3xandr3i 5 років тому +64

    the video starts and i'm like "what the f is happening to Ollie's head?"

  • @mantrajack3549
    @mantrajack3549 5 років тому +12

    James brings always so much fresh energy to the show!

  • @TheWaxChainFanClub
    @TheWaxChainFanClub 5 років тому +15

    The practiced art of hammering on his tube staring at an open laptop. What a Hank.

  • @lexistential
    @lexistential 5 років тому +27

    Certain retro bike tech, like stuff that's won important races, etc, should be in museums, but what good does a bike do if it's not being ridden?

    • @andrewhernandez1275
      @andrewhernandez1275 3 роки тому

      I'd say it's still important to hold physical record of some of these beautiful bikes, after all, saving a few out of many that get destroyed isn't a horrible idea.... consider buying some special parts now and saving them until they're 20+ years vintage

  • @Aditya-fv9xv
    @Aditya-fv9xv 5 років тому +6

    Absolutely loved Hank BANGING THE HAMMER 😂❤ I bet Ollie agrees with me ;)
    Good to have you back, Hank

  • @kevinlavery6194
    @kevinlavery6194 5 років тому +7

    I'm not gonna lie, when Hank first started, I didn't know if it was going to work out. He's now one of my favorite presenters. You've improved a ton Hank!

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  5 років тому +1

      Thanks Kevin we think he's a real asset to GCN

  • @SwiCyc
    @SwiCyc 5 років тому +7

    Hank is soo much more energetic and positive as Ollie. Please make this a regular thing!

  • @endcensorship874
    @endcensorship874 5 років тому +8

    I really think every cycling enthusiast NEEDS a vintage ride. If anything, to be reminded how awesome their current ride is!

  • @teunluijbregts2533
    @teunluijbregts2533 5 років тому +12

    On the road, since bikes are meant to be ridden.
    Just treat them with respect when you do 👍👍

  • @henrikmunster6812
    @henrikmunster6812 5 років тому +2

    Barend shifters were not only for cyclocross. They were actually used by professional road racer back in the early fifties, I think it was.

  • @owenvermeulen1231
    @owenvermeulen1231 5 років тому +2

    Please... Please do a video of Jon's garage. I (as well as many people) would love to see his bikes and what parts and stuff his has collected over the years!!! Please do a Jon's garage video!!!

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  5 років тому

      maybe. one day. Jon

  • @DanielWisehart
    @DanielWisehart 5 років тому +1

    While Mario Cipollini did not make a name for Cannondale until 1997, they were building aluminum racing bikes beginning in 1983, clearly early enough to take part in the Eroica vintage cycling event.

  • @DavidUKesb
    @DavidUKesb 5 років тому +1

    I have seven racing bikes, all vintage ranging from 1946-84. They always get plenty of compliments in a sea of carbon.

  • @guysmith3326
    @guysmith3326 5 років тому +2

    I have two 1979 Raleighs that I bought this year. The Raleigh Record was in a terrible state, with no oil or grease anywhere in the bike, but it had not been ridden much. I restored all the original components, including the saddle, but excepting the freewheel which had been replaced recently, and the cables, housings and brake blocks which do not survive the passage of time. However I found a 79 Suntour freewheel exactly as on the bike in the catalogue, new in the box, for not very much money. The big input was time, as I stripped the frame completely, (had it powder coated for $100) and carefully rebuilt everything. If you like working with your hands and like bikes, this is the joy. The other bike was a 1979 Carlton Criterium that I bought from the original owner. This did not need painting, but had not been ridden for several years, so again was a complete tear down and rebuild. The great fun is that ball bearings are cheap as chips, and everything else is fixable. I ride them both on club rides. I do not get dropped.

  • @DaanHoogland
    @DaanHoogland 5 років тому

    that crank in front of the down-tube is just perfect. never a bike with a crank at three o'clock again!

  • @mikeleppan8635
    @mikeleppan8635 3 роки тому

    Rode Eroica South Africa on a hand built Francois du Toit ( one of South Africa’s best known frame builders) and a personal friend. Frame was built in 1982 using Reynolds 531 P tubing and Campagnolo dropouts. I wore my original team jersey from the 1984 Argus Tour and rode with my old team mate from the same year. The bike is 100% original with full Campag SR groupset from the period. An absolutely brilliant ride filled with great memories and comradie. So many of my generation are still active cyclists, with retro kit tucked away for occasions just like this. I use the bike both on gravel and on tar and it’s still a pleasure to ride it. .

  • @brucelangsteiner4599
    @brucelangsteiner4599 5 років тому +19

    Back in the day when men were iron and bikes were steel!!

  • @Aubreykun
    @Aubreykun 5 років тому +3

    As soon as Jon said "When someone has a puncture roadside and I'm having to wait", my video froze, and the timing was so perfect with the two of you sitting there looking exasperated I thought it was a skit from the other size of the room! At least till my device showed an error.

  • @Calum_S
    @Calum_S 5 років тому +3

    I bet Olly is a joy at CX races with his aversion to cowbells.

  • @okantichrist
    @okantichrist 5 років тому +1

    Great comedic chemistry between the guys! 😂👍🏻

  • @tajaipaul891
    @tajaipaul891 5 років тому

    I have a spanking ‘86 4130 Nakamura with a HyperGluide cassette and chain, Shimano 600 BB, 105 everything else , colour matched camelbaks, modern seatpost and an original Turbo saddle of my buds Cinelli. Old is Gold!

  • @brianbuday8639
    @brianbuday8639 5 років тому

    My wife has an 84 aluminum vitus .Keeps it in France for holiday riding. Fitted with an ultegra group set. Spot on. Although the Quill stem is a little rough on the arms after an hour or so in the saddle 🚴🏼😎

  • @smokeycretin9
    @smokeycretin9 5 років тому

    I love retro cycling stuff. I ride a '97 Lemond Zurich mostly, but also a 1985 Bianchi Vitoria and a 1965 Puch Bergmeister

  • @gustavmeyrink_2.0
    @gustavmeyrink_2.0 5 років тому

    Gary Klein started to make aluminium frames in 1973 and large diameter tubed ones in '75, Cannondale started in '83.But staying with steel you could buy a brand new, old spec, curly stay Hetchins frame which is L'Eroica approved as long as you use old components.
    A Hetchins would be way beyond super nice btw.

  • @Sir-Prizse
    @Sir-Prizse 5 років тому +3

    To be honest, I would have the perfect bike for that event... with Campagnolo Record and an old Reynolds 531 frame.

  • @LeSmokinCola
    @LeSmokinCola 5 років тому

    I've got a 1960's Rattray Flying Scot frame just sitting here along with some 70's British racing handlebars. I keep feeling the itch to do it up and make it a bike again. The forks have been widened to take a modern size wheel previously back in the 90's

  • @rob-c.
    @rob-c. 5 років тому +2

    The Specialized Allez in the bike vault breaks my new aero bike rule - I’ve said it before, the seat post should not be deeper than the rims! 🙂

  • @lisaanddavidsextraordinary8654
    @lisaanddavidsextraordinary8654 5 років тому +1

    Great show tonight; loving the enthusiasm.

  • @timdodd3897
    @timdodd3897 5 років тому +1

    I ride '70s Raleigh road bikes. Love them.

  • @tomscott4644
    @tomscott4644 5 років тому

    I ordered my bike from Trek in 1977. Other than the saddle, it still has all original 1970s parts including wheels. Rode it over 1000 miles this summer. It spent a decade in a flooded basement and is pretty rusty. Hope to paint it this winter and submit photos next spring with hopes of a water bottle or bell ring.

  • @gethind-j2390
    @gethind-j2390 5 років тому

    Well done lads, nice show and good to see Hank back.

  • @ericpmoss
    @ericpmoss 5 років тому

    The funny thing about this is that you can get a brand new bike based on the 'old' designs that is perfect for that kind of race --

  • @FFSDenny
    @FFSDenny 5 років тому

    I have a restomod Schwinn Tempo that has compact gearing and friction shifting that I ride when I'm not using my modern Felt. If I was to do the Eroica California, I would build another bike. Used bikes from that era are readily available. One thing that I would do is use a Sugino or Sakae crankset because some are available with 110 BCD five hole patterns which would allow me to ride compact gearing.

  • @hedleykerr3564
    @hedleykerr3564 5 років тому +4

    They have trainers that convert your watts into charging a battery which in turn gives you electricity! Totally green!

  • @colnagoc50HP
    @colnagoc50HP 5 років тому

    My 1988 Marinoni restoration won the coveted GCN Cape-ron which I wear in the shop and at the BBQ! Of course I ride my beauty! Nothing is as smooth on a descent (although stopping a bit tricky) or rough pavement than a frame with Columbus tubing! No issues with improper indexing with friction shifters and I quickly remember the skills associated with cleats, cages and toe straps. The bike just cries out to be ridden every time I take another one out for a spin! The only thing I miss are the hoods on modern shifters. However I manage with my leather and string racing gloves from a bygone era!

  • @snoworder
    @snoworder 5 років тому +13

    Send James to Eroica!

  • @THE-MAD-TECHIE
    @THE-MAD-TECHIE 5 років тому

    if you want to minimize scratching due to gravel , a layer or two of clear packing tape on bottom of down tube and chainstays makes a fairly decent temporary near invisible rock guard...for me it stops 90% of scratches and for few that go through it makes them smaller ..but don't buy cheap tape or leave it on more than a few days (residue)

  • @eugenetsen579
    @eugenetsen579 5 років тому

    Perfect camera skills when john shouted 'RING THE BELL ' 😂😂😂

  • @Shellewell
    @Shellewell 5 років тому

    Because of the money I'd build up a classic bike myself, but my general attitude towards them is that bikes're made to be ridden and if I had one I'd consider it absolutely right to put it through a ride like the Eroica.

  • @youriverstraete4986
    @youriverstraete4986 5 років тому

    Love "training weekends" with the lads!

  • @mikecaskey337
    @mikecaskey337 5 років тому

    1980s Mercian pro lugless frame, Nitto and fairly modern Campg. Mavic ust rims...with some slight newer running gear tech it rides as well as many modern bikes I have owned down the years. Sometimes I think we are drawn in by marketing to continually upgrade. My 1995 Marin Eldrige Grade...as good as any gravel bike, and of course gravel trail riding is not new, but the sales folk might try to convince us otherwise..

  • @chrisscott8362
    @chrisscott8362 5 років тому +2

    Ollie!!!! YES! I love that guy.

  • @palmer3977
    @palmer3977 5 років тому +3

    John "Possibly the biggest eye ball i've ever seen", I think if you had seen larger you would have remembered John ;-)

  • @benkemoller5193
    @benkemoller5193 5 років тому

    I used a Bianchi Rekord 748 in Eroica last weekend. Found it on a local ad in Sweden for 350€. I built up a new set of wheels with old record hubs and Mavic Gp4. 39-24 was not enough in the steep uphill gravel roads so I will try to find a speed freewheel with 28 next time.... the cyclist who did not jump off their bikes at the end of the climbs had bigger freewheels... you’re right the risk for damaging you’re bike is definitely big... but my Bianchi survived.

  • @jacksquat2067
    @jacksquat2067 5 років тому +6

    "Supernice."
    *snaps laptop hinges*

  • @llandor
    @llandor 5 років тому +1

    I'm just about to restore an old 1981 Peugot PH8 (everything works so I'm keeping the groupset and all, just new tires and new wires), should be ready for some classic italian hills

  • @davidperkins3621
    @davidperkins3621 5 років тому +5

    Bikes were made for and should be RIDDEN

  • @sureshchinnappa2290
    @sureshchinnappa2290 5 років тому

    You are awesome guys. Great show.

  • @bernardwatts5339
    @bernardwatts5339 5 років тому

    Rode the Polverosa (116 km with about 20 km on gravel, farm track and rocks) and vintage bike gran fondo with a bike found at the dump (Champion frame 52-42 x13-26. Replaced the perishables (handlebar tape, brake cables and palmers) for about 90 euros, giving me a bike worth 80 euros.

  • @craignittolo3040
    @craignittolo3040 5 років тому +1

    Great show had lots of good laughs

  • @5GreenTea
    @5GreenTea 4 роки тому

    I love every thing about the 80's bike except the seats.

  • @michaelserres3604
    @michaelserres3604 5 років тому

    My vintage bike is a Joe Gardin 1980's era tri bike I bought at a garage sale 10 or 15 years ago.

  • @nabilioustheriffer4862
    @nabilioustheriffer4862 5 років тому

    You guys are freaking loud on this Tech show! Cool \m/

  • @jeffgreenfield4174
    @jeffgreenfield4174 5 років тому

    Interesting that you note Phil Anderson was using STI in 1989....in 89 he came to the east coast of the US for a visit and the airline he flew with bent his frame. I was living and racing for a team out of a shop in Norwalk CT whose head mechanic was a frame builder. Anderson brought his bike to our shop to have it repaired. He had prototype Dura-Ace STI on his ride. Nobody had seen this yet and the shop needed to strip everything off the frame to effect the repair and then rebuild the bike. They had to call the regional Shimano rep to get some training on it. After the bike was built back up, some of the guys on the team and some of the employees at the shop got the chance to take a quick spin on Anderson's bike and check out the yet to be released shifting system.

  • @dennislouton3709
    @dennislouton3709 5 років тому

    Had a Fabo Alan in 1980, Aluminum Screwed and Glued frame. Campy with Brooks saddle.

  • @wangdangdoodie
    @wangdangdoodie 5 років тому

    The Eyeball is a 30Ft high sculpture by Tony Tassett. It always reminds me of the musical group The Residents.

  • @qibble455
    @qibble455 4 роки тому

    Great show. We need more James. He's a bit of a darkhorse.

  • @PoliticusRex632
    @PoliticusRex632 5 років тому +1

    I think the 1st win with STI was Phil Anderson at the 1992 Tour of Britain.

  • @jamesclemons18
    @jamesclemons18 5 років тому

    I saw the first production Teledyne titanium bike in Tucson, in the mid 1970's. It was a big deal in those days, but it quickly became known as the "flexy flyer." Also, I remember seeing one of the first production aluminum frames. It looked, for all the world, like it was made of tent poles glued and riveted into lugs. I don't remember the manufacturer, but I thought it's rider very brave. As a teenager, in those days, I rode a Norman Fay, built up from a frame set I purchased locally, and my friend rode an all Campy Condor. We had both upgraded from Raleigh "Competitions" which were equipped with Huret Jubilee mechs, TA cranksets and Weinmann center-pull brakes. We all rode tubs. Clinchers were for Clunkers. Come to think of it, there were a lot of high-end, all Campy Brit Bikes running around the Sonoran desert in those days. Funny, how the world has changed....

  • @bugsandbrodiaka-elbarto1492
    @bugsandbrodiaka-elbarto1492 5 років тому

    You guys should partake in the 508. It’s an insane 508 mile race in Nevada

  • @benharcourt3844
    @benharcourt3844 5 років тому +2

    Love this hosting combo, more please!

  • @jackhammer40k_
    @jackhammer40k_ 5 років тому +2

    I hope you guys are gonna get Hank home before his bedtime

  • @ImranShaikh-gh2wd
    @ImranShaikh-gh2wd 5 років тому

    hank is ray of sunshine!

  • @Piplodocus
    @Piplodocus 5 років тому

    I've made my 1984 Raleigh Corsa dis-allowed by giving it indexed gears and other modern bits, but my '87 Raleigh Granada just makes it in and is standard! Just need the outfit to wear! The Eroica is undoubtedly an infinitely more pleasurable and realistic way of "going back to the good old days" than brexit will ever turn out to be! 🤣

  • @Boopop1024
    @Boopop1024 5 років тому +1

    Bought a '84 Dawes Galaxy on eBay for the princely sum of £35. After a few hours with the wire wool it was up and running and looking pretty good. Then eventually the spokes started to go on the wheels. The rims are in good nick though so I got them rebuilt at my LBS for about £200...ouch! Was going to do eroica in the Peak District but it only had 500 spaces this year. Hopefully next year it'll be back to its original location near where my dad lives. Not sure how far I'd go with the period appropriate kit though.

  • @acewilliams7917
    @acewilliams7917 5 років тому +1

    I ride retro. Nothing wrong with a retro bike. More durable.

  • @logicaldad1917
    @logicaldad1917 5 років тому

    Don't forget that the Vitus 979 frames were used by Sean Kelly in the early 80's and I bought one around 86 so that would qualify!

    • @clockdva20
      @clockdva20 5 років тому

      Yeap Kas used three three tube carbon bikes with Aluminium lugs and forks and rear triangle in 86 and 87 , I have an ex Kas team issue in my basement that I need to restore , but I keep putting it off , I am surprised that clipless pedals are not allowed looks pedals were used in 86 I seem to remember . Maybe because those first gen looks are hard to find now in safe working order . Steel is a much safer option also over those early bounded Carbon and Aluminium bikes .

  • @jeffbrunton3291
    @jeffbrunton3291 5 років тому

    Newer bikes are allowed in particular the bianchi eroica released a couple of years. There are also new colnagos that would be no problem
    It’s the tech that is key, DT shifters and non aero hoods at the strict Eroica’s

  • @twigle3015
    @twigle3015 5 років тому

    love the hammer!

  • @Darth_Firebolt
    @Darth_Firebolt 5 років тому

    next time put the small crown race setter inside the big one and shake that to get your bell sound.

  • @DavidUKesb
    @DavidUKesb 5 років тому

    Bar-end shifters are also fine.

  • @saleemwaheed9956
    @saleemwaheed9956 5 років тому

    They got some good bud in the UK!

  • @tombarton7043
    @tombarton7043 5 років тому +1

    Is it me or did Hanks double espresso kick in at about half way through this video? 🤪🤪

    • @playandteach
      @playandteach 5 років тому

      I think alcohol was consumed.

  • @matthewlott5148
    @matthewlott5148 5 років тому +1

    "Is that a Labrador??!!!" 😂😂😂

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 5 років тому +3

    Only in California would a Pepsi machine not actually dispense a Pepsi. Somehow, that's modern day cosmic, man.

  • @linusowens2858
    @linusowens2858 5 років тому

    I wish I had those darts this summer. I had several sides of bacon fail to plug a bad puncture. Finally threw a tube in, but wish I didn't have to.

  • @superpoluha1
    @superpoluha1 5 років тому

    Hey GCN, watch every video rarely comment. I have an idea, you guys should do a video segment “inappropriate application” where, for instance, you compare a light road bike with an aero TT bike in the hills and show some numbers. Would be cool to see! Thanks. -matt

  • @watsonroadster3707
    @watsonroadster3707 5 років тому

    Still riding my Benotto 850...And, I just had my Shogun Kaze refurbished back to its original state....

  • @valeccylinder8703
    @valeccylinder8703 5 років тому +1

    I like these funny boys👍

  • @RichardMigneron
    @RichardMigneron 4 роки тому

    I still have a bike that would qualify for the Eroica... A Peugeot Reynolds 531 Professional frame etc

  • @marcuspartridge11
    @marcuspartridge11 5 років тому

    Ideas for Rob and his pain cave: 1. Solar panels on the roof? Wait, he's from the UK, right? Not enough sunshine... 2. How about hooking up a generator to his trainer to power up his batteries while he rides???

  • @chazpilks
    @chazpilks 5 років тому +1

    Does John seriously not know who Jay-Z is? Loving the chemistry between these guys, better than a typhoon in Japan

  • @9034833838
    @9034833838 5 років тому +1

    Shall I call the HR here for james. He didn't look too comfortable with Jon trying with his PDA

  • @mylesiswhite4122
    @mylesiswhite4122 5 років тому

    In Perth, Australia we have that dog and rabbit statue except here they are riding a bicycle not a moped...and they're naked

  • @jameswitte5676
    @jameswitte5676 5 років тому

    Please do a test of Stans darts compared to tire plugs. I’ve just switched over to tubeless. Thanks

  • @richardnick2216
    @richardnick2216 5 років тому

    Well, it depends. If it‘s an incredibly rare Italian masterpiece with Campagnolo 50th Anniversary Grouppo I probably would’nt be riding it around the local lanes. Let alone L’Eroica! Only in pristine weather without the slightest chance of rain. But generally I do ride all of my vintage bikes.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  5 років тому +1

      Thats great that you ride them!

  • @jaimeisreal
    @jaimeisreal 5 років тому +3

    I poked a dart in my tyre (tire) to fix a puncture.

  • @DawnofRealms
    @DawnofRealms 3 роки тому

    Let’s see for starters cinelli had clipless pedals before 1987! By 90 there were mass market carbon frames. When did look, Alan etc… mass market carbon frames?

  • @fanutsky
    @fanutsky 5 років тому

    its the dynamic duo! or... comedic duo :)

  • @marcovoorthuis806
    @marcovoorthuis806 5 років тому

    I love my Bianchi Rekord 745 from 1975....

  • @WillPower46
    @WillPower46 5 років тому

    Hey guys I rode tens of thousands of km racing in the 80's on a Rolls saddle. They are very comfortable...

  • @seniorcycling5352
    @seniorcycling5352 5 років тому

    Rob should get some sort of mini generator that he can power through his pedals so it gives him incentive to keep training/keep the lights on

  • @bizzehdee
    @bizzehdee 5 років тому +1

    "cant find the bell..." what was missing from the end of that sentence was "...because it was CRC sponsored and their idea, and we need to figure out a way around not getting sued for it" 😁

  • @larsmunch4536
    @larsmunch4536 5 років тому +1

    That garage: Isn't it possible to connect a generator to the turbo trainer, so you can generate all the power yourself? Then you don't need any batteries and inverters.

  • @jackseph03
    @jackseph03 5 років тому +1

    The rabbit. I would.

  • @ARKINHK
    @ARKINHK 5 років тому +1

    Gents. Monster is not part of the Coca-Cola group. Relentless is their energy drink... how do I know? I work on Coca-Cola globally as part of their agency group. Quite familiar with the brand. :).

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  5 років тому

      Whoops. Thanks for clearing that up

  • @ROBinJVILLE
    @ROBinJVILLE 5 років тому

    I have an 86 Raleigh Technium that is all original except tires/wheels and chain and freewheel. I'm in

  • @Epson5000
    @Epson5000 5 років тому

    L'Eroica needs to come to the US East Coast.

  • @chrishey6891
    @chrishey6891 5 років тому

    Imagine having to room share with Hank when he was a pro! I am imaging lots of banter, laughter, a mess on his side of the room and asking him to please calm down and go to sleep at 3am :-)