Rather than simply increasing the battery size, they should just put a 25-mile range battery in each cargo pod. That way one pod is out for delivery while the other is being loaded with cargo and charged at home base... unlimited daily range.
On one hand I’m a big fan of cargo bikes. On the other hand seeing how some of them become larger, heavier, more protected, and very expensive I wonder what’s the long term vision here. Are we going the direction to get cyclists off the bike lanes? They are already in danger from cars.. now imagine you have a thing that weights several 100s of kgs (with cargo) with kinetic energy of a small car moving against you, the driver doesn’t need any license (which might affect accountability), and since is in protected, enclosed cabin, has four wheels and is seemingly very stable I wouldn’t be surprised if folks driving it will be on their phones. That doesn’t feel like we are making the bike lanes safer for cyclists, is it? Perhaps the regulators need to catch up. But also the community needs a long term strategy and vision, with clearly outlined objectives. If the objective is to reduce the use of cars, then these heavy car-like delivery “pedelec” vans should move to car lanes. In bike lanes, in terms of safety, it doesn’t look like these say 300kg vans vs e.g. 10yo 30kg kid on a bike, have the same chance of not get severely injured in a collision. Why not giving those pedelec vans even more protection and let them share car lanes? It will slow down traffic but so what? Maybe we all can slow down. I can also imagine passenger version of these vans, and use them for children school drop offs. Point being is that if we have such objective, then it shouldn’t happen at the expense of cyclists safety, but at the comfort of car use, no?
I think regulation and social expectations will adapt to these long before they saturate bike infrastructure - the protection is necessary to temper safety and comfort expectations people have because of cars, and it would likely fall away if cities switched their planning priorities to favor bikes over cars.
Here in bicycle country of the Netherlands, there have already been bigger 350 kilogram vehicles with 160cc on the bike paths for quite a long time. Those usually aren't any problem, electric fatbikes however have become quite the scourge.
Incredible. I could go for such here in The USA. Any such e bike I seek needs to be able to be usable for carrying back groceries home. Throw in suitable HVAC...ooo yeah.
@@ButterfatFarms For this one: 1. You don't need a licence. 2. You will NOT KILL a kid while driving this 3. Pedal assist 4. It's more eco friendly. In my opinion world is a little safer without SUVs and Trucks.
@@bloodnwine 1) Who doesn't have a license? 2) If you hit a kid with this, they will die still depending on size of child and speed of bike. 3) Pedal assist is irrelevant. 4) It's lithium-battery powered, lithium mines and the batteries that come from that mining is FAR from green. Your opinion =/= fact.
@@bloodnwine 1. I'm not a drunk that's lost his privilege to drive but others might find that an advantage. 2. I've never killed a kid or anyone with a car or anything else, but i could certainly kill someone with that too if I were careless enough. People die in bicycle accidents nevermind electric bicycles. 3. Pedal-assist is nice if you need to expand your range. I rode an e-bike for over 3000 MI before the battery in the odometer went dead and I tossed it aside. 4. Compared to a car probably so. but Lithium powered e-bikes certainly aren't the holy grail of eco-friendly either. 5 alternative options like this do little if anything to lessen the amount of SUVs and trucks on the road. They do have Niche application.
What's the max wind speed its safe in ?. There are city areas that are windy like a brow of a hill . You could diy a better one for a 1000 euro . (welding skills and scrap bike needed ) From ..489 /m over 48 months wtf . near 24000 euro haha .
Smart nice idea ! Only downside I very much see is there on street with 40 mile hr driving cars ?how fast can those go ? What kind of safety equipment does it have from a car truck motorcycle going 25 miles hr flying to you with no chance of stopping till it hits you ? Heavy traffic areas are fine but not where people are in a rush to get to ................. no where ?
I thought I was thinking of the safety ? I know it's a bike and I definitely know what happens when a car hits a bike ? Bike lanes aren't just bike lanes anymore ? And I do believe do to that those are delivery bikes there going to need all the safety they can get ! Have fun !
@@grimispotato245 it's not exactly safe, but it's definitely safer than most other bike-type vehicles - the size makes it a lot easier for drivers to see
I'm not sure what everyone saying ? But what I'm saying is cool sweet idea but careful going in to the streets bike lanes should try riding on on one. Or I'll ride one I've been riding and working with my bike for decades in traffic awful bike lanes and went through all the obstacles there is ? Don't get bike "paths" and bike "lanes" confused with each other now. I've been hit, crashed, and even pretend I was superman. And that little box isn't going to help you. I can see now you have an aluminum box around you ? Great ! I want you guys ride one ? UA-cam challenge who's up for it ? I am.
@@MyKharli 32kmh is the max speed for them here (mine goes up to 38 in separate mode). I agree with that last part, the counter-revolution will sooner resort to fascism than overhaul infrastructure and land reforms or have private property seized (Resource extraction class, not Joe's house). We honestly need high speed trains. There are none in America because of powerful lobbies.
Here in uk ebike laws are very very rarely enforced and only if your being a dick on one . Still i am surprised by the amount of uk youtubers showing off there 60mph bicycles , i mean ... However there are no laws on downhill bicycle speeds and fit cyclists can do 40mph easy .so idk ..@@Popeslash
It actually goes 25kph with e-assist. (that's the max speed for pedelec bikes in Germany). 6kph is only the speed of startup assist that helps you take off.
@@chonk0478 no way that price is in any way justifiable for anyone or any business. There are many micro electric cars out there for less than 10K. The difference is you have more freedom with a micro car. This cargo ebike is limited to bicycle lanes and will receive constant curse from cyclists. It's a gimmick if you put it next to its competitors.
Well I guess we're going to need a delivery lane now as one of these will completely fill a bike lane causing all regular bike or ebike riders to have to pass them in the car lane. Or maybe ban cars altogether in the inner cities for this sort of vechicle. I also noticed in the video said vechicle stopped and unloading in the bike lane. Most bikes or ebikes travel around 15 to 20 miles per hour. this thing operates at seven miles an hour. A person walks at 5 mph. And then there's that big box truck the delivery thingee works out of. Suburbs fine, inner city no way.
It actually goes 25kph with e-assist. (that's the max speed for pedelec bikes in Germany). 6kph is only the speed of startup assist that helps you take off.
EV s catch fire becouse of massive output anf input that also causes battery degrigation, then there's the issue of cracked waterproof battery casing ? this can be coused by debris or battery over heating.
All auto manufacturers stopped selling compact trucks several years ago to focus on high dollar gas eaters. Now, instead of buying an inexpensive fuel efficient work truck with all the advantages of a gasoline vehicle, we are being forced into a $25,000 box on a bicycle that runs at 15 mph for 40 miles between charges. And they wonder why workers might complain.
You don't seem to realize why nobody builds and sells small pickup trucks in the United States today. You can thank CAFE standards! It wasn't greed that killed the small pickup it was the GOVERNMENT. ua-cam.com/video/azI3nqrHEXM/v-deo.htmlsi=NkkJM3DAM_W6ygM9
It can override traffic jams. Uh NO! It's just going to make traffic more jammed for bikes by completely blocking that lane and slowing it down. I can understand how this can be useful; by reducing car traffic. However, I can also see this ruining the fun for bike riders that want to go faster than cars in the bike lanes.
@@MyKharli The cars will never go away in NYC. Of coarse, it would make more sense to completely ban cars, and replace them with these mini electric taxi carts; but they will never do it.
How bad does the climate catastrophe have to get ? Were suffering from 30 year old emissions now ., we have to stop emitting now to save any future !@@charliechuckleberry5307
This should be used for all deliveries in dense cities, where there’s usually nowhere to pull over.
It exudes excellence everyday. Designed for success! Congratulations.
Rather than simply increasing the battery size, they should just put a 25-mile range battery in each cargo pod. That way one pod is out for delivery while the other is being loaded with cargo and charged at home base... unlimited daily range.
On one hand I’m a big fan of cargo bikes. On the other hand seeing how some of them become larger, heavier, more protected, and very expensive I wonder what’s the long term vision here. Are we going the direction to get cyclists off the bike lanes? They are already in danger from cars.. now imagine you have a thing that weights several 100s of kgs (with cargo) with kinetic energy of a small car moving against you, the driver doesn’t need any license (which might affect accountability), and since is in protected, enclosed cabin, has four wheels and is seemingly very stable I wouldn’t be surprised if folks driving it will be on their phones.
That doesn’t feel like we are making the bike lanes safer for cyclists, is it?
Perhaps the regulators need to catch up. But also the community needs a long term strategy and vision, with clearly outlined objectives. If the objective is to reduce the use of cars, then these heavy car-like delivery “pedelec” vans should move to car lanes. In bike lanes, in terms of safety, it doesn’t look like these say 300kg vans vs e.g. 10yo 30kg kid on a bike, have the same chance of not get severely injured in a collision.
Why not giving those pedelec vans even more protection and let them share car lanes?
It will slow down traffic but so what? Maybe we all can slow down. I can also imagine passenger version of these vans, and use them for children school drop offs.
Point being is that if we have such objective, then it shouldn’t happen at the expense of cyclists safety, but at the comfort of car use, no?
I think regulation and social expectations will adapt to these long before they saturate bike infrastructure - the protection is necessary to temper safety and comfort expectations people have because of cars, and it would likely fall away if cities switched their planning priorities to favor bikes over cars.
Here in bicycle country of the Netherlands, there have already been bigger 350 kilogram vehicles with 160cc on the bike paths for quite a long time.
Those usually aren't any problem, electric fatbikes however have become quite the scourge.
I would definitely buy this thought I’m in the U.S
Incredible. I could go for such here in The USA.
Any such e bike I seek needs to be able to be usable for carrying back groceries home. Throw in suitable HVAC...ooo yeah.
It's called a car buy one ffs!
@@ButterfatFarms For this one: 1. You don't need a licence. 2. You will NOT KILL a kid while driving this 3. Pedal assist 4. It's more eco friendly. In my opinion world is a little safer without SUVs and Trucks.
@@ButterfatFarms 100%
@@bloodnwine 1) Who doesn't have a license? 2) If you hit a kid with this, they will die still depending on size of child and speed of bike. 3) Pedal assist is irrelevant. 4) It's lithium-battery powered, lithium mines and the batteries that come from that mining is FAR from green. Your opinion =/= fact.
@@bloodnwine 1. I'm not a drunk that's lost his privilege to drive but others might find that an advantage. 2. I've never killed a kid or anyone with a car or anything else, but i could certainly kill someone with that too if I were careless enough. People die in bicycle accidents nevermind electric bicycles. 3. Pedal-assist is nice if you need to expand your range. I rode an e-bike for over 3000 MI before the battery in the odometer went dead and I tossed it aside. 4. Compared to a car probably so. but Lithium powered e-bikes certainly aren't the holy grail of eco-friendly either. 5 alternative options like this do little if anything to lessen the amount of SUVs and trucks on the road. They do have Niche application.
I want to buy one for personal use
Wish I had the money I would buy it
What's the max wind speed its safe in ?. There are city areas that are windy like a brow of a hill . You could diy a better one for a 1000 euro . (welding skills and scrap bike needed ) From ..489 /m over 48 months wtf . near 24000 euro haha .
That's including technical service, maintenance and insurance though
Fair enough , i am poor so often kick off more than needed .
Blade Runner scenario is getting closer. Nothing against this idea, just people see future visions in their ideas as in movies.
Smart nice idea ! Only downside I very much see is there on street with 40 mile hr driving cars ?how fast can those go ? What kind of safety equipment does it have from a car truck motorcycle going 25 miles hr flying to you with no chance of stopping till it hits you ? Heavy traffic areas are fine but not where people are in a rush to get to ................. no where ?
then you can go on the bike lane
It's a bicycle. Ride it like it's one and you won't have those problems.
I thought I was thinking of the safety ? I know it's a bike and I definitely know what happens when a car hits a bike ? Bike lanes aren't just bike lanes anymore ? And I do believe do to that those are delivery bikes there going to need all the safety they can get !
Have fun !
@@grimispotato245 it's not exactly safe, but it's definitely safer than most other bike-type vehicles - the size makes it a lot easier for drivers to see
I'm not sure what everyone saying ? But what I'm saying is cool sweet idea but careful going in to the streets bike lanes should try riding on on one. Or I'll ride one I've been riding and working with my bike for decades in traffic awful bike lanes and went through all the obstacles there is ?
Don't get bike "paths" and bike "lanes" confused with each other now. I've been hit, crashed, and even pretend I was superman. And that little box isn't going to help you. I can see now you have an aluminum box around you ? Great !
I want you guys ride one ?
UA-cam challenge who's up for it ? I am.
Deberian estar maxificadas ya estas ideas.
Somewhat better than the Fernhay equad
The full throttle speed preset is horrible (6kmh). It should be at least 28kmh
Yeah but ebike laws prohibit it . crazy in a climate catastrophe but fossil fuel producers must be protected at all costs .
@@MyKharli 32kmh is the max speed for them here (mine goes up to 38 in separate mode). I agree with that last part, the counter-revolution will sooner resort to fascism than overhaul infrastructure and land reforms or have private property seized (Resource extraction class, not Joe's house). We honestly need high speed trains. There are none in America because of powerful lobbies.
Here in uk ebike laws are very very rarely enforced and only if your being a dick on one . Still i am surprised by the amount of uk youtubers showing off there 60mph bicycles , i mean ... However there are no laws on downhill bicycle speeds and fit cyclists can do 40mph easy .so idk ..@@Popeslash
It actually goes 25kph with e-assist. (that's the max speed for pedelec bikes in Germany). 6kph is only the speed of startup assist that helps you take off.
@@MyKharli "Climate catastrophe" 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 🤣
Don't tell me it's available in Nagaland 🙄
😅 no
@@GU_Official lol 😄👍
How is that thing in the snow?
Throw some studded tyres on it and it's good to go - studded tyres are used in Canada, Finland and other serious winter places.
Wow good for delivery❤
They would provide with green air in towns and cities, not to the globe. If they have paddles, they are not fully electric
€27,000? Fuck that
the payment period explanation means thisis probably intended as a fleet vehicle, so the pricing is a bit more justifiable(?)
@@chonk0478 no way that price is in any way justifiable for anyone or any business. There are many micro electric cars out there for less than 10K. The difference is you have more freedom with a micro car. This cargo ebike is limited to bicycle lanes and will receive constant curse from cyclists. It's a gimmick if you put it next to its competitors.
I want one
دائما ما تسرق افكاري 😅 لماذا دائماً عندما افكر في فكرة ابتكار و تصميم شئ ما اتفاجئ ان هناك من سبقني بها
أنت لست مميزا.
Cool, but not legal in most of USA
Well I guess we're going to need a delivery lane now as one of these will completely fill a bike lane causing all regular bike or ebike riders to have to pass them in the car lane. Or maybe ban cars altogether in the inner cities for this sort of vechicle. I also noticed in the video said vechicle stopped and unloading in the bike lane. Most bikes or ebikes travel around 15 to 20 miles per hour. this thing operates at seven miles an hour. A person walks at 5 mph. And then there's that big box truck the delivery thingee works out of. Suburbs fine, inner city no way.
It actually goes 25kph with e-assist. (that's the max speed for pedelec bikes in Germany). 6kph is only the speed of startup assist that helps you take off.
Do the batteries catch on fire and can't be extinguished like electric cars? 😂
Solid state comes out soon, and does not catch fire
theyre pretty small so the risk is probably minimal, even with a royal cell chemistry fuckup
Method to extinguish battery fire is already developed, and car battery in general have lower chance to burst into flame than gas powered vehicles
EV s catch fire becouse of massive output anf input that also causes battery degrigation, then there's the issue of cracked waterproof battery casing ? this can be coused by debris or battery over heating.
I would put a Hayabusa engine in it.
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All auto manufacturers stopped selling compact trucks several years ago to focus on high dollar gas eaters. Now, instead of buying an inexpensive fuel efficient work truck with all the advantages of a gasoline vehicle, we are being forced into a $25,000 box on a bicycle that runs at 15 mph for 40 miles between charges. And they wonder why workers might complain.
The days of inexpensive work trucks or any other vehicles is long past.
no one is forcing you to buy anything lmao - this is a niche delivery vehicle, not a pickup truck
You don't seem to realize why nobody builds and sells small pickup trucks in the United States today. You can thank CAFE standards! It wasn't greed that killed the small pickup it was the GOVERNMENT.
ua-cam.com/video/azI3nqrHEXM/v-deo.htmlsi=NkkJM3DAM_W6ygM9
It can override traffic jams. Uh NO! It's just going to make traffic more jammed for bikes by completely blocking that lane and slowing it down. I can understand how this can be useful; by reducing car traffic. However, I can also see this ruining the fun for bike riders that want to go faster than cars in the bike lanes.
I would be delighted to see these as a cyclist . Anything but a vehicles exhaust in my face .
@@MyKharli The cars will never go away in NYC. Of coarse, it would make more sense to completely ban cars, and replace them with these mini electric taxi carts; but they will never do it.
How bad does the climate catastrophe have to get ? Were suffering from 30 year old emissions now ., we have to stop emitting now to save any future !@@charliechuckleberry5307
That was just u thinking.
I’m sure the pedal assist is high enough in these to not cause traffic
That is way too heavy for its size
Es inestable, se cae y produce accidentes
لو ان الله يوقف عقول البشر قليلاً كي اخذ فرصتي
تبا لكم ...
I don't see this is any better for the environment than using a u-boat or hand truck.
Lol what