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The Acolyte Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, Easter Eggs, Theories, Spoiler Review, & Ending Explained! Kelnacca lightsaber fight in In Episode 7 of The Acolyte, titled "Choice," the story takes a significant leap back in time to explore the events that unfolded on the planet Brendok 16 years prior. The episode begins with Jedi Masters Indara, Kelnacca, Sol, and Padawan Torbin arriving on Brendok in search of a mysterious "vergence," a powerful nexus of the Force. Initially, the Jedi are uncertain about the vergence's nature, but their mission takes a turn when Sol discovers two young girls, Osha and Mae, who are connected to the vergence. The episode reveals that the Jedi were sent to Brendok after a hyperspace disaster 100 years earlier, which left the planet barren. As the Jedi observe the girls and their connection to the Force, they discover that the twins were not born but created from the vergence. This revelation leads to a confrontation with the Nightsisters, led by Mother Aniseya and Mother Koril, who are responsible for the twins' creation.The episode explores the moral dilemmas faced by the Jedi as they grapple with the ethical implications of their actions. The conflict escalates when the Nightsisters, fearing the Jedi's intentions, take aggressive measures to protect the twins. In the climax of the episode, a tragic event occurs, resulting in the apparent deaths of the Nightsisters and the separation of the twins. The episode ends with the Jedi making a difficult decision to hide the truth from the Jedi Council to protect Osha and maintain order within the Jedi ranks. Episode 7 of The Acolyte delves into the complex relationships between the Jedi, the Nightsisters, and the twins, exploring themes of creation, destiny, and the consequences of one's choices.
The cast features Amandla Stenberg as Mae, Lee Jung-jae as Master Sol, Carrie-Anne Moss (Trinity from The Matrix) as Indara, Manny Jacinto as Qimir, Dafne Keen (X23 from Logan) as Jecki Lon,
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Rebecca Henderson as Vernestra Rwoh, Joonas Suotamo as Kelnacca, a Wookiee Jedi. We just had the end of The Bad Batch Season 3, Tales Of The Empire, and now we await Star Wars: Dawn Of The Jedi, The Mandalorian & Grogu movie, Star Wars: Skeleton Crew, Star Wars: Lando, & perhaps more!
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You have brain rot if you actually like this show friend.
Could you guys say "like" 95% less, please? Thanks!
@@sikkouvol.1996 And you are not his friend if you think you can impose your opinion on him and insult him. Friend.
People need to realize that the Coven was not evil and when you go from that viewpoint you realize that they were just a family trying to protect there children but also there way of life-
They didn’t kill anyone they didn’t hurt anyone the only time they used there powers was always in defense never in trying to kill someone
After Mother Aniseya was brutally murdered by Jedi Sol wrongfully that is when the Coven fighting still in defense but also in offense so that no other person would die-
You can feel how you want to feel but Jedi Sol Jedi Torbin and the wooky Jedi we’re all in the wrong
Carrie Anne moss was the only one who consistently tried to understand what was going on from a higher big picture view point
But those Jedi after what they did should have all been stripped of there station and immediately removed from the Jedi order and the fact that they weren’t because they kept the secret for 16 yrs shows that they were corrupt and had fallen into darkness
The witches were definitely innocent the Jedi came in like child protective services and instead of actually looking at the situation Sol just immediately said they were in danger all because he wanted a Padawan if you listen to Carrie Anne moss character
She states and that’s why I have a Padawan and you don’t they made that scene jump out because they wanted the viewers to realize that Sol was jealous of not having a student to teach so much so that it clouded his judgment.
Yes the witches lived differently but all three of the male Jedis were jumping to quick conclusions and making their own decisions
At the end of the day aniyseya had made up her mind about letting osha go with the jedis there was no need for violence
When she shouted out No it was her way of trying to stop the jedis and mother Koril from fighting and before that happened Sol yet again jumped to conclusions and killed her immediately making him the bad guy and darkening his spirit
Everything after that moment was just a response to the jedis killing their leader
but they never were in danger the ceremony wasn’t evil and neither were any of the witches
They just did things differently
"No, he's explaining the 16 years".
"Oh, but through the form of a flashback".
I must admit that I was hoping for him to explain the 16 years in the form of interpretive dance.
Or we could’ve just heard him telling her what really happened (maybe with some quick flashback scenes) instead of spending a whole episode retreading mostly what we already knew
@@alexp601 I'd still go with the interpretive dance, personally, but you make a good point. They have to fill the series somehow, I guess.
@@user-jg5ie8rc1s Sol to Mae: “To fully explain to you what really happened, I have brought along my good friend, Megan Thee Stallion.” *Begins twerking
Fvcking funniest comment here 🤣 😂!! 10/10 for real.
@@alexp601
There’s a thing in storytelling called “show don’t tell”. Stuff like this is more impactful if you let your audience actually see it instead of just having characters talk about it.
So basically, master Sol was too rash, mother Koril was too belligerent, Mae was childish, Wookie is just too strong, and last but not least mother Aniseya lacked communication skills, IF ONLY she clarified why she was turning into a giant ghost crow beforehand!
I mean she didn’t really have time to explain when Torbin and mother Koril both had their weapons ready.
if only Sol hadn't made his desperation for a padwan , none of this would've happened
@@jaxsonlambert9750 You don't de-escalate a situation by turning into a demon.
Exactly 😭😭😭
Well mae is a child so ..yeah she will be childish
Why did Sol force lift the bridges instead of just the two 45 lb kids?
I came here to say this. If he can hold up the bridges he could have pulled the two girls to him.
Because of everything else in this show... bad writing
Size matters not, an old master once said. He couldn't focus because he was so distraught (if one wants to dig for an explanation).
Less lifting, more like holding in place... barely
We are 7 episodes in and you’re still surprised by how bad the writing is 😅
Mae misquotes Mother Aniseya when se talks about sacrifice with the Jedi, the actual quote was "Ascension is about walking through fear, is about sacrificing a part of yourself" not "Everyone must walk through fear, everybody must be sacrificed to fulfill their destiny" this is one of many misunderstood elements the makes Sol jump to the rushed conclusion that the coven is evil. Most of his actions in this episode are dictated by fear and a misguided belief that he needs to protect these children from something he doesn't even try to understand.
i thought it was obvious that Mae got the words wrong, plus it should be a given when talking to children, that they will not convey things properly due to their age
Well the coven was evil and Mae was coached to lie.
@@7thangelzthats why Indara kept telling Sol to chill because they were children and he did not have the full story
@francisco_m7849 I'm convinced he also lied about Osha passing. Indara was very generous to not call him out
@Byronic19134 lol, no
And so what if they told their children to lie to strangers that mean to take them just because
Torbin's lightsaber move was impressive. It looked like Anakin's style while he was repelling the arrows.
Because it was 😊
Honestly, if somebody was actively turning into a smoke demon right before my eyes I’d use my lightsaber too
Even smoke dies when you stab it in the belly... looking at you Sabine....
Of course because jedi didn't know what she try to do kill or stop
after you invade my home,
아무 설명 없이 갑자기 저렇게 변신하면, 솔직히 나도 너도 우리도 요다도 찔렀을 거야.
@@MNToThateven a being that gets stabbed and doesn't get immediate medical attention can die yeah that's true. Sabine got instant medical attention. That in painfully obvious I fear
Fear was the enemy here. Everyone acted of their worst fear and it ended up in disaster. Mother Anaseya and Master Indara were the rational ones here, sadly they didn't listen to them.... That's sad. 😢
occurred to me during this rewatch that Sol's motivation in letting Mae fall was to get rid of the only witness that could tell the council how he murdered her mother. None of this had to transpire had the Jedi just collected their moss and minded their business. Going back to when Mae confronted Torbin, her first ultimatum was that Tobin go confess to the council the Jedi's part they played in it, but he chose to drink poison rather than admit they over stepped. As for the comments on Mae acting childish, well she was 8 years old, so a child being childish is what she was supposed to be. All the questions asked concerning her culture, how they were fathered etc was NONE of the Jedi's business! By their own rules the twins were too old to join the order, yet Sol continued to push. The witches submitted to their demands to test the girls. They saw the girls were willing to fail the test on purpose to remain with their family. But none of that mattered. It's the unmitigated gall on the Jedi's part that got me. Then to cover it all up, they let Mae become the scapegoat. Periodt. When Osha finds out it was Sol who killed her mama, she is going full on dark!
You mean she may become The Acolyte. Nah. That would follow story telling tradition of thousand of years of human history. Disney writers wouldn't do that.
Exactly! Of course, if you have a colonizers mindset none of this makes sense. The Jedi are definitely it the victims here
I think that while Torbin's impatience to go home is the more central issue with him, I think running off to grab the kids directly is more a case of "Oh! We found the thing we've been looking for on this planet now lets grab it!"
Yeah we got that. It’s just such a silly motivation.
Mae is 8 years old with the impulsiveness and lack of true understanding of consequences of actions. She seems to have to carry her actions as if she had an adult mind.
You do not have a brain if you are really trying to find sense in the writing
@@Rakk-z1w that's a bit rude, there is sense on the writing, whether you choose to follow it and understand what's said is up to you
@@Midnight_7567 indara is by far the worst and everyone is saying she was the voice of reason which she was but she’s the most senior Jedi and leader of the team and she ultimately failed she let Sol and her padawan run wild and people say “if they’d have listened to indara everything would be fine” and you’re totally correct but a leaders job is to make people listen, I really don’t wanna be that guy but if it was a man leading the team the question would be why does his team not listen to him he’s clearly not a good leader but because it’s a woman it’s oh my god all these men just undermined her and didn’t listen, terrible writing because they clearly don’t understand what a leader is
Now that explains why Sol has trouble distinguishing between mae and osha. They share the same force signature there’s nothing to distinguish one from the other besides their personality their physical personality. If you try to force read them, it’ll be the same imprint.
One Has a Tattoo on her forehead. the other doesn’t
@@fabian5813I paid close attention to that last episode. They did a good job of having her hide the tattoo.
@@fabian5813 she’s purposely hiding it plus if you watch Sol he’s not paying attention to her face. He’s moving back-and-forth and thinking of other stuff.
Since where the audience were detached, we have no investment in the scene so we are looking at everything that’s going on to pick up clues. So we’re not actually sitting in his position with everything that’s going on.
If you physically hangout with twins separately, it’s pretty easy to tell who’s who from the way they act. Force isn’t needed to figure it out, it’s just common sense.
That's why there's a Prime Directive with StarFleet not to interfere with the local races. It's obvious that Sol broke General Order #1 of the Federation's Prime Directive if the Acolyte was in the star trek universe.
This is such a good crossover comment hahah
Now that is proper Nerd
and that is why I will always be a trekkie over a star wars fan lol
Sol could hold up two bridges that weigh who knows how much, but couldn’t simply pick up Mae and osha instead, with the force? Cmon man.
You're forgetting how the force works. He was struggling with not only the events prior, but with the guilt he was also feeling. Focus and attention is what he lacked in that moment. Without that, you can't use it successfully.
@@frostedcrabcake1592 so basically he lacked common sense?
@@spookykouki8970 Huh? No. Did you even read my comment? Sol went through the ringer mentally. It has nothing to do with common sense, rather his state of mind. Remember Luke training under Yoda? He couldn't lift his x-wing out of the swamp, not because he wasn't powerful (cause he definitely was) but rather he wasn't in the right mental state. He was frustrated, tired, and worried about his friends. Without a calm or focused mind in the Star Wars, using the force is difficult. Sol just killed the twins mother, who revealed that she was gonna let Osha leave with the Jedi. Not only did his rash actions get her killed and started the fighting, but he acted on fear. Which after fighting your friend and all of that happened, he simply didn't have what he needed. It's why he was able to save adult Osha easily with the force in the future, not only has he had more training, but he was calm.
@@frostedcrabcake1592 What a load of nonsensical copium.
@@frostedcrabcake1592so because of traumatic BS, Sol wasn’t in the right mindset to force lift the two girls but he was still able to lift the two heavy ton bridges?
It was my impression that Mother Aneseya made a vulnerable Torbin extra crazed to go home. She sensed that desire and pushed it, but it didn't manifest as she intended. She didn't think that he would find his excuse to go home in taking the twins, she perhaps just thought he would convince the other Jedi to leave. It's actually a pretty cool motivation because it makes the one who was advocating nonviolence and cooler heads at fault too. She mirrors Indara in that respect, who ends up doing something horrific despite her efforts to maintain peace. No hands were clean in this, except for those of the children who were being emotionally manipulated.
Yeah, like and extra Inception. I think that too.
Im seeing people say this is the best, some are saying it's the worst episode...what's your take?!
Good to get answers but a bit underwhelming. Still not terrible like some Star Wars "fans" have been saying since before the show came out. I'm having fun with this show and hoping the finale sticks the landing.
Trash
Complete garbage writing
That people are tiring.
Vert bad
Sol's fear of what he did not understand, his hubris, and his warped sense of destiny seemed to be the major catalyst of this disaster. It's why he killed Aniseya. Torbin feels like everything that happened is his fault. And it's kinda true. None of it would have happened if he didn't rush in.
He killed her because she turned into a smoke demon 😂
@@borderlandish1140~ She was trying to protect Mae. Things were turning violent and she wanted to get Mae safe. Sol was on edge because he assumed Mae and Osha were in danger. He didn't understand what was going on. So he attacked. His irrational fear drove him to it. He felt like this was his destiny. To rescue the girls. But it wasn't destiny. It was hubris. A hero complex creating a threat that was never real. He could have taken Osha as his padawan without bloodshed.
@Whispie If only everyone conveyed what they were thinking truly instead of acting an their instincts and fear, maybe things would've had an entirely different outcome.
@@therealOGGRIM~ There was a person with a level head leading both sides of this. If the coven listened to Aniseya and/or the jedi listened to Indara, everything would have been fine.
👆🏳🌈
I thought this ep was gonna reveal that osha started the fire, not Mae. *Nope* it turns out Mae is just as self centered, selfish & delusional as we first thought
It was the most basics explanation of what really happened. There wasn’t much of any interesting going on
accident of a 8 years old. Well police come to your home and pretend to take your sister, and you, from your family. she is a witch so she burns the symbol of the Jedi, but as a 8 years old panic when she accidentally started a fire. Her mom thinks they have to defend Osha and the coven. how is she self-centred
@@margolitapnina6716 wow, what a terrible analogy. It was barely an “accident” 🙄 she purposely lit that book on fire
@@redcomet0079 are u blind? she immediately regretted it and did start a fire while freaking out🤣 I repeat 8 years old. too difficult right?
@@margolitapnina6716 Do you often come to defense of terrible characters making terrible character choices? 🤨 what a simpleton 😆
I appreciate Indara saying some of the things the fans were saying, "that they're too young", that they shouldn't get involved, etc.
Dude, I love camping but 7 weeks of it would turn me to the darkside too, probably.
One week is enough for me 😂
Him being away from Coruscant for 7 weeks makes his homesickness kind of ridiculous considering he doesn't even have a family outside the Jedi. 7 weeks is not a long time.
They probably have good wifi in Coruscant
His desire to leave was turbo charged through mental manipulation by the witch queen
Probably had a new season of At Home with the Hutts to catch up on
But the dude has no problem meditating in silence for almost 2 decades… not in Coruscant.
Almost 2 months is not a long time for you ?? If I was a teenager in the middle of nowhere for that long I’d probably just end it 😭 but I wouldn’t say he has no family to go to when he probably had friends who are like his family
that speeder bike had me dying.
It looked so bad and it had to be intentional
When Sol comes to a stop on the bike, the animation freezes for the last few frames before the scene cuts. It shows how bad the quality of the production of this show was
I think they wanted to match what the speeder bike scenes looked like in the OT trilogy. Not saying that was a good idea but I think that’s what they went for.😅
@@ZachBobBobsee my comment above for why it was probably intentional
@@OrionInSpace Yeah this is why I said it had to be intentional but it does not look good. When those artists did what they did for the original trilogy they were trying their absolute best with the technology they had available to them at the time. We can do so much better now but instead we're making things look shoddy on purpose for what? Nostalgia?
That Torbin/Aniseya scene reminded me of Itchy wearing the VR pleasure hemet in the Holiday Special.
The song was initially weird, but then I put it in the context of the Chinese dramas I watch. Songs that overtly touch on the themes of the show are standard, and they become huge pop hits. This one is by Victoria Monet.
Good Reaction Greg and Michael! The Wookie fight scene in this episode was cool! 👍
Even Mae's misquote of what her mom said was such a great detail. But I would say the fact that Sol was so quick to belive that she was saying everyone correctly as a child is insane. She clearly had doubt about what she was saying by saying "I think" or "that's what Mama said". This is why getting a response from the council would have been worth waiting for. Because they may have suggested speaking to an adult and someone from the coven who could give them clarity on what Ascension was and that its not them drinking the Kool-Aid instead of Sol forcing his idea of what she said as truth and just making a rash decision.
But Witches are Bad - Sol
I could not take Mae seriously when she was repeating what Mama said... "Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush"
Somewhere there is a cut of episodes 6 and 7 where OSHA and Mae learn this at the same time from each of their captors and realize they've been manipulated
I hate characters telling me something they could just show. Their reactions are not that important. Osha will be upset. Mae has no reason to change her position. Now that I write this that's a problem for the Mae character.
@@Dryltd it is. Mae didn't need to hear this, Osha did. This structure is so weird to me.
Poor Torbin and Master Kelnacca, they are going to have PTSD for their lives.
Uh
@@Swifter2020 I know they are dead, but still.
That's exactly it, that's why Kelnacca went into isolation and Torbin felt like all of this was on him and his impatience. That's not even mentioning how traumatic it must be to have your mind taken over and attacking his friends. That will have an effect on people that is not positive.
I am having PTSD
Most of the double scenes were to show what sol saw and what caused him to misinterpret what was gonna happen.
They know that but modern critics want scenes to always present new information. I would love to watch modern critics pull their hair out watching old westerns. Slowest movies ever with repeat scenes galore.
Lee Jung Jae has been awesome in every fight scene. One of the best Jedi fighters movement-wise I think we’ve had - it’s almost like he’s dancing.
There is a fan fiction film and the light saber fights is better then anything Disney has made those fans did a great job.
@@aramisone7198 that’s nice. My comment is about Lee Jung Jae’s performance of the choreography though, not Disney vs Fan Film fight choreography.
@@aramisone7198shut up
Every time Lee Jung-jae shows off his lightsaber dancing, I can't take my eyes off him.
Darth Maul, hold my beer!
Torbin was a teenager stuck in the boonies during boring shit for seven weeks. Of course he wanted to leave.
right? 7 weeks on a previously uncharted planet to research vegetation and wildlife. at that age im sure he wanted more action and glory id be homesick and bored too
Right like imagine being that age and mostly living in what amounts to very very expensive university or city full time for your whole life and then being forced dig up moss on easter island for 2 months 😂 id be foaming at the mouth to gtfo too
@@spencerrr9878 i feel likey duped themselves into it being more
Anakin hated Sand. Torbin hates camping. These seem like reasonable concerns from magical wizard children.
the failure of one
the failure of two
the failure of maaaaaanyyyyyyy
HEY, MANNY IS THE BEST PART OF THIS SHOW!
I love how they all died swaying like idiots. 😂
@@Rob_Himself83 so you're still watching?
@@stalematesibling No. The episode was only about 40 minutes. I finished watching about 20 hours ago...
@@Rob_Himself83 so you're still wtahcing
Love your video, you two, and keep up the great work you are awesome
This episode literally backs up what I've been saying since episode 3: "From a certain point of view" is the entire point of the story.
From a certain point of view I understand what you are saying.
yeah… this is why the Jedi should have body cams 😭
No, here’s an interesting take on my part. We are used to Jedi when they have an actual physical conflict coming straight for them. We had it with Luke in the original trilogy, we had it with the Jedi council with the rise of the Empire and the prequel trilogy, we had it with Rey And the Emperor in the last trilogy. This miniseries, we are shown what Jedi do when there’s no conflict they are just roaming the galaxy, checking on things and seeing where the force is influencing change in the galaxy. You got yourself a young Padawan who is out doing soil sampling in the far regions of the galaxy. Do you not think the guy is not going to be back crap crazy because these ones are not like Kool-Aid drinking followers they are just regular beings who have emotions whether they are trained by the Jedi or not you put somebody out there in the middle of nowhere without years and years of training they are going to go bat crap crazy. I like this concept that they did here because honestly up to this point the Jedi to me have always been a very militant indoctrinated society they can show no weakness whatsoever. Now what this show does it show us that? Hey, these are just all children raised in a certain Belief system and not all of them, which I believe in the books they explore this not all of them can handle it. So far, I don’t have a problem with the over arching concept of what they’re trying to say execution has a bit of issue, but I don’t hate what they are trying to say or do.
22:11 the song got me too Greg 😂
They made Torbins suicide absolutely pointless
Man... that Indara scene killing off all the witches thru the Force kinda reminds me of the scene in Multiverse Of Madness, when Scarlet Witch killed Professor X. Subtle, but brutal 💀
Scarlet Witch snapped his neck right up close to the camera. Not really subtle. And not really like the witches dropping dead.
@@alexp601 True. Though we only saw the external representation of what happened to the witches unlike Scarlet Witch snapping the neck inside Charles's head. I wonder what it would have looked like if they showed a representation of what Indara mentally did with the witches 🤔
I didn’t think she killed them, just knocked them out having used so much power. I assumed they were then killed by debris/fire
people are too quick to blame her imho, at that point it was just self defence, the witches had it coming
I don't think Indara was trying to kill the witches, just trying to break their hold on Kelnacca.
I think people forget that something doesn't need to be perfect for people to enjoy it...
Wow so we spent 180 Millions on this so it doesn’t need to be great….
@@kevint1196 didn't say that...? Budgeting is a different subject entirely loll
I'd settle for mediocre at this point. This is worse than The Book of Boba.
And you forget that just because someone likes something, doesn't mean that it's good. This show is utter trash from an objective standpoint.
The end credits song reminded me of Alan Wake 2. Whenever you complete a chapter a song plays that sort of encapsulates the chapter and story beats you just played through.
Torbin taking Mae's blood sample through her clothes bothered me way more than it should...
Same
It shows that the production and creators really didn’t care about what happens or how it happens
Reminded me of anything startrek everytime they give a hyperspray
EpiPen style!
If mosquitoes can bite me through my merino t-shirts, I'm sure their tech is up to the task :)
I am still wondering why he is telling all of this to the evil twin? Thats how the previous episode ended, he was talking to the bad one. She was there for all of this, she knows already?
same. Mae knows more truth than Osha! And how that fire spread in rock is still a mystery.
@@LaurindaBellinger Electrical fire through the cable passages. Poor engineering is not new to Star Wars. They have fire in space. This is SciFi fantasy from a person who grew up watch Flash Gordon.
He clearly wants to explain how Wrong her mother was to turn into Smoke in front of a scared Jedi. And that it was all a mistake and misunderstanding that he really really regrets. You are tied down because the whole killing your mother thing I recognize is not the best starting point for understanding.
Indara was incredibly wise. If the others followed her lead, everything would have been fine.
I see people say this but is she not the reason for the entire cover up sol was clearly wanting to be truthful and come clean I’ve never seen a Jedi say “lie in this situation as it’ll give you the best outcome” she’s the worst in my opinion also in charge of the mission lets her padawan be possessed and then run back to the witches coven because he wants to go home
When you put it like that, it's quite a powerful life lesson - to always be patient and exercise restraint
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@@Nipc23 I agree but Anakin allowed Ashoka to run off to and during war with the ability to yank her back with the force and didnt. Also, just because they are a teacher, doesnt mean they are leader worthy for a group task of this nature. Especially when there dealing with first contact like this. Indara was probably better suited for a resource gathering mission leadership role such as this than diplomatic instances so things spiraled out of control and with everyone viewing her as the most level headed and wisest, diverted to her for guidance when in her head she is probably "Ok, stay calm. What do I do? How can i make this work without fighting?" She obviously has never been in that big of a leadership role before. These things happen when trust upon you especially when something big like this is just put on your shoulders.
Also i just always viewed the Jedi as they all deal with a more conformity style religion and expect everyone to be this patient and calm individual that when someone deviates, there honestly confused and hesitiant. Once they calm down, the think through punishment. I think this is why Indara didnt know what to do in the moment and why things turned out the way it did. Probably also never went through this before so... life lessons.
Great reaction guys. Truth to your input. Thank you. ❤ Happy Birthday Greg!!!!!
That song had me in awe for the entire end credits… my hand was literally over my mouth..
Happy Birthday Greg! "You come here, on my daughter's ascension..." had me in tears! Loved: the performances (especially Carrie-Anne Moss and Jodi Turner Smith). Meh: Tobin's motivation. Hated: how on the show and in real life, everything would be fine if folks just minded their own damn business. I love this show. As a casual Star Wars fan, this is my favorite of the ones I've seen.
Wow I will say while the Jedi are not the villians or wrong per say as a whole this episode really showed how Sol jumped the gun and assumed many things without either properly checking or asking those who had detailed answers. He is partially the cause for how serious everything got and is why Osha and Mae's mama died when she was just trying to help.
This makes me think that Mae and Osha will have different reactions than we think to this information next episode. And there will be either a massive fallout/fight between two being Mae/Sol and Osha/ Qmir or just between Mae and Osha.
I kinda want osha to switch and just go full sith let those emotions show but she doesn’t snap out of it and she and Qimir escape and osha tells sol to never look for her again.
That’s a big issue with this they advertised the show as something that will show the Jedi in a more negative light and show the sith persecution this is making me agree more with the Jedi rather than the sith
I disagree, I think Sol is the only sane one. The rest are batshit crazy wanting to leave two created, highly force-sensitive children, with a group of wacked out witches practicing dark-side magic. Hell no, those kids are coming with us!
@@smokinjoe4709 I disagree. The Sith haven't been seen for 900 years. What's the problem? And one of the children wants to go with us. Calmly ask for the child and we can circle back to this later once we have more information. Sol needs to chill. Children are enslaved on multiple planets. This is not even on the priority list.
@@Dryltd Are you crazy, both of those girls are potential dark vaders, this needs to be dealt with right now. Sol is the only one with a clue, the rest are idiots.
Happy Birthday Greg!
Yall's reaction to that song is fantastic😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So... this is why dude killed himself...?
All the witches died because pf his eagerness to leave to the planet. He was impatient and reckless, everything a Jedi isnt.
Yeah your damn right he felt bad. Its an emotion called Empathy.
So you just wanted to go home and take a hot shower but your eagerness led directly to your master "killing" 50 women and then lying to cover that up. Can you sleep soundly?
@@Piratesi666why tf would torbin feel bad about witches dying when they violated his mind in the first place?? The Jedi could have attacked and killed them all in the first episode for mind controlling their youngest and arguably weakest member. What does that say about them???
@@nathanrivera4953 Sound like you don’t really understand what The Jedi are all about.
@@nathanrivera4953 Cause the show writing is bad. The jedi break into the place of people clearly abusing the force and manipulating children. Then the main lady tries to manipulate a teenager Jedi and turns into a smoke demon and starts turning one of the kids to smoke. Torbin literally did nothing wrong.
If you play that song on the Spotify desktop app, the play bar becomes a lightsaber!
If you play anything Star Wars on Spotify the bar changes to a lightsaber
@@ZachBobBob~ I thought that might be the case! First time I've seen it!
What's it called
@@copuim_dealer Power of Two by Victoria Monet
@@copuim_dealer~ Power of Two by Victoria Monét.
This is yet another freaking Star Wars Hill I am willing to die on. Ever since I kept re-watching the original trilogy over and over again over the years, I always came to the conclusion that the force is one encompassing energy that exist in the Star Wars universe. It is so strong that you can easily tap into it with, strong negative emotions creating desire for the power or you can tap into it and just learn to use it without losing yourself to desire so it’s all a matter of the balance within you tapping into a power source. Other words the force is not dark and light good and evil. It’s just energy. How do you access it is, all based on the user. With that in mind, I think that the concept of the vergence, which is stupid, it just a hotspot of force energy that exist in different parts of the galaxy this planet happens to be a hotspot of force energy. What they are trying to say is that in the history of the Star Wars galaxy they have literally indoctrinated themselves everyone into thinking the forces good or bad, light or dark. I have yet to see on film, have not read any books or comics, Anyone use a balance of the force like the true nature of the force it’s always a struggle between good and bad, but I haven’t seen anybody who has struck a control of the full power of the force at least to my interpretation of the films. If that’s where they’re trying to lean towards with Rey then OK no problem. It just seems to me that constantly there is this issue with Star Wars where it’s either good or bad and nobody understands anybody’s point of view.
I understand people liking this show, but you can’t go away from this episode saying it’s good, especially with one left,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GREG YOU GORGEOUS MAN! I'm enjoying the show, but I'm a fantasy fan not a Star Wars fan. I like the witches and I wish they hadn't just been wiped out. I was glad they showed that it was an electrical fire that spread, because I was so confused how a seemingly stone structure could burn. If you see the Jedi as the dominant organised religion, their tendency to kill witches and see any alternative spiritual power as evil is sadly consistent with our own history.
The song at the end certainly was a choice. I noped out of it the second I realised what it was. People often say a lot of things aren't Star Wars but contemporary pop R&B music is NOT Star Wars.
Except in the special edition Return of the Jedi, they were playing the hits in Jabbas palace
@@chrisretzlaff2895 I mean that scene is infamous and people don't love that either
If you dont like the show then dont watch. There are many of us who do like it and we dont need that negativity here
@@Omnidudes Don't be so dramatic and presumptuous. I stated ONE thing I didn't like and that means I hate the whole show? I'm a huge star wars defender but just because we like things doesn't mean we can't critique them
@@Omnidudes Good god, this is becoming a problem. People are allowed to critique the show they're watching! Why, all of a sudden, is critiquing a show now met with "if you dont like it don't watch! negativityyyy!"??
Its good to see you guys form your opinions in a normal and healthy manner. You know, by watching it first and then formulating your thoughts.
Seems like its a trend to watch reviews and make reviews before you watch the show.
The Jedi getting promotions after a catastrophe is so on brand
The Nighsisters possessing Kelnacca's mind with Indara coming to the rescue by removing the mind control brought back to The Matrix Reloaded with Neo stopping the Sentinels as they were about to kill him, Trinity and Morpheus.
I dont want the drugs that you're on.
Nightsister is a slur, those are just witches.
Fight choreography always on point👌 idk why it was so cool seeing Torbin spin the light saber all fast deflecting all the arrows, new found respect for the character
What was with the pop music at the end of the episode😂
Amazing video !
This episode is also going to confirm my theory that I keep going back-and-forth on that mother Koril most probably found. Qimir As a broken Padawan that the Jedi let go and probably taught him the more darker side of the power of the force. Other words, he had the training from the Jedi, but she just reinforced her lust for revenge for taking her children and her coven. Probably Qimir was abandoned by her as well because he was not seeking revenge against the Jedi like koril wanted
I have a feeling Tessler can be excited by watching One Blade Of Grass Grow, and he’ll be in shock and realize it’s a reference or metaphor for something
I have a feeling you'l die alone melting on a sofa somewhere unloved and abandoned by everyone that matters
Interestingly enough, in the no longer canon Knights of the Old Republic series...at the Khoonda Outpost near the Jedi Enclave there is an abnormal blade of grass that is later seen in the 2003 animated Clone Wars...OH I think I see your point
@@michaeltessler 😂
That was a good episode. Happy Birthday Greg!
35:29 Interesting that Greg walked off again twice in a row in the outro while Michael is speaking. RUUUUUDDDEEEE Greg. LOL
Such an unprofessional shill, he is 😂
She literally becomes a space demon and expects not to get attacked on top of that the witches were at fault first
No they weren’t and she wasn’t going to be threat to them so yes…. Sol made a mistake
How were they at fault? The Jedi literally broke into their compound against the High Council’s orders lol The witches were just rightfully protecting their children. Just bc they are Jedi doesn’t give them the right to do whatever they want
@@ThunderCrey they clearly did something messed up to get the children, kept going by stepping all over their agency when raising them in a cult as well, there's more to this. Also super trigger happy to mentally control people and kill them with abandon
What? The jedi literally invaded their peaceful life ignoring the council orders.
@@H_D_WalkerYes but then she needs to explain osha is leaving peacefully so you can leave and not turn yourself and a young child into a mist Demon which could be dangerous to the child so , don't blame sol for reacting in that way do blame the Jedi for acting rash and stupid for no reason,is their word not Good enough to convince the counsel and blood samples
Been up waiting for this let’s gooooo
Sooo...does the song make you nostalgic for Bea Arthur from the Holiday Special?
Force sensitivity only works when writers want something specific to happen.
19:31 Sol: "Girls! The bridge is going to collapse! Run back and step off!"
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Sol: "Girls stop pointing at each other and get off the bridge!"
Man, I just wanna see Qimir beat up more Jedi. Hope we get a 1v1 with him and Vernestra in the next episode. Again, the action is the part of this show that just keeps pulling me back lmao, Wookie Jedi performing a jump attack is just sick
Happy birthday to you, Greg! 🎉 Today is also my son’s birthday ❤
The end titles song will sound very holiday specialish in 20 years. It already does.
Also just went back to listen to the end credits song… 😣😣 just sad
Jedi trespass witches home twice star wars fan " Y did the witches get hostile"?
If your neighbours kid is screaming and sounds like its in danger, your saying you wouldnt go round and check it out?
@@Piratesi666 Except No one was screaming. They showed you the scenes twice. That never happened. Your analogy is flawed. Adjust please.
@@Dryltd It was an analogy, not like for like situation.
The witches violated torbins mind the first interaction they had when the Jedi clearly came in peace and wanted to just talk. The Jedi could have justifiably attacked them right there, but they didn't.
@@nathanrivera4953 “A Jedi uses their powers for knowledge and defence, never attack.”
I kinda want sleep meditation narrated by Carrie-Ann Moss now, genuinley😂
Maybe someone who’s been on tours of duty will be more sympathetic to Torbyn’s desire to go home?
Glad they finally gave us Chewbacca fighting with a lightsaber
Kelnacca*
Chabewcca*
Chupacabra*
Gary Busey*
Upchucka*
Mae and Osha:Fuuu-sion-haa!
Is the end song the new jedi rocks??
I have been looking forward for this
I think the idea was to show that Torbin was just a typical teenager. He literally was acting like any other 15 years old would if the went camping for 7 weeks. His actions made sense too me
Yea but because of the crappy writing Instead of the witches talking like normal people she decides to sneakily go inside his mind to which he then doesn't tell anyone about it
Maybe I missed it, but what made him "opt-out" 16 years later? But to your point, after being raised in the academy, would he really be a "normal" teenager? He should have been better written as a homeschooled, YEC jesusfreak and a rabid "H-Youth" zealot.
@@emuman09not crappy writing Karen
@@daurydavis3983 that comment doesn't make sense. Would you like to articulate?
@@emuman09You talk about crappy writing. When during 9/11 a group of white Americans killed a obviously seak gas station attendee all because they saw a turban on his head and thought he was a Muslim "Terrroist". 🙄
I didnt pay attention to the song at the end at all and holy shit its insane😂
Yeah i missed it, its kind of a bop but it feels wayyyyyy out of place 😂
It's like those old pop song remixes they used to put at the end of some Disney movies
The twins' zabrak mom reminds me of Drummer from The Expanse. The coven sound like they're speaking Belter
This leaves us with more questions…hope the next episode can answer the Qimir question plus is Venestra involved in any way?
So basically everything happened out of fear and prejudice, like many things in real history. Hmm, I kind of like this approach to the plot.
Those witches had it coming. The Jedi could have handled things better, but the witches struck first, messing with Torbin, then getting armed and ready to fight them, then Osha and Mae’s mother does some crazy shit. Sol acted in self-defence, but not saving Mae is some dark shit. Good on you Sol, you’re the man.
Not only that but they created two force sensitive children and are teaching them the dark-side - sorry, but that = time to die!
You must support Police doing search seizure without a warrant. Here in Texas you don't walk into my house with a gun uninvited. Be thankful I only controlled your mind to want to leave.
@@Dryltd It's star wars not real life, get a grip.
@@smokinjoe4709 I have a grip. When someone says something "had it coming" I want to know how far that thinking will go for them. The Jedi are the Senate's police. So what part isn't about Star Wars. Just because you have no good counter nor joke counter. Maybe you had it coming to read my comment. Maybe that's your punishment.
The Kids grow out of a big Flower and one Day the Witches (or whatever) find them😅
Oh yeah Michael and Greg, I totally forgot to mention the scene when the Jedi were back in their ship and Sol was saying that one child had a marking, but the other didn’t maybe because she did not want to do. It was the scene in episode three where they were going to do the ceremony, but they showed up as the ceremony was going and interrupted it so they could not finish the ceremony. So once again Sol was seeing things from his point of view and not what actually was happening
I liked this episode well enough including the fact that we know why Indara was not for training Osha as well as now there’s an interesting connection with Sol and Qimir; both want/wanted a student.
"I don't care guys I really liked episode 3" -Greg
"So do we! That's why we gave it to you twice!" -Showrunners
I'm probably trying to put together something that isnt there, but im starting to wonder if the way mai and osha's personalities clash and the way they act is actually because of them not having access to the opposite spectrum of emotions. Mai has all the traits of selfishness/anger/pride and osha is more attuned to empathy/friendship/hopefulness.
It would be kind of interesting on paper if that was thier original intent, but let's face it, if that was the case they dropped the ball.
At least the series had some cool action scenes lol
Anybody else get pedophile vibes from this episode?? Sol's instant obsession with OSA was downright creepy.
I’ve been pretty disappointed with the show overall, although I thought episodes 5 & 6 were alright….. but…. This episode effin sucks dude. Holy smokes. This one was right on par with the Vespa crew episode in Book of Boba Fett 😂
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prepared for all the Sol stans to find every excuse for his actions
Happy Birthday Greg🎉
Did indara use something like a thought bomb ie bane
Torbin and Sol we’re so reckless, they made Anakin seem patient and wise. Like, what was Torbin thinking? 😂 What a terrible Padawan
Thats why he killed himself.
@@Piratesi666yeah after seeing this episode I felt like I could understand why he felt especially guilty for what happened
@@humandisaster18 It makes sense, right?
Good story telling 👍
Honestly I was pretty disappointed in this episode, I definitely don’t think it’s the worst but it’s just disappointing, I mean I get it’s a flashback and gives us some more insight but I don’t think their was enough here to justify seeing all the exact same scenes except with a slightly different perspective. I still enjoy the show but this one sadly was a letdown personally but I hope more people enjoyed it than me 🙂
Anti climactic. I was watching like”this is it” this is the big mystery. The structure of the series was so poorly done. This should have been episode 1 or 2 and they should have had a linear narrative
@@Knightowl1980 Yeah I really expected their to be like this huge revelation that would change the way I view things but nothing really happened that we didn’t already kind of know, I did like the fight, seeing a wookie Jedi is awesome and seeing the council did not want them to take the twins and sol letting Mae fall to save osha was interesting but that’s it🤷🏽♂️
agree, would have been better as ep 1.. so we can at least get the pay off's they want us to have when the Jedi are later killed off
This explanation of events was not a great payoff for me.
It's my favorite episode so far
Sound like torbin got some yams back on correscant lol