Seyyed Hossein Nasr - "Sunnism and Shi'ism: Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow"
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- In Hartford Seminary's Biennial Willem Bijlefeld Lecture, Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr explores the history of the relationship between Sunnism and Shi'ism, which goes back to the death of the Prophet Muhammad. Dr. Nasr discussed the manipulation for political interests of Sunni-Shi'ite differences by forces both internal and external to the Islamic world and reflected on the future of the relationship between Sunnism and Shi'ism and the impact it is likely to have within the Islamic world itself and in its relation to the West.
The Willem A. Bijlefeld Lecture, named after the first director of the Macdonald Center for the Study of Islam and Christian-Muslim Relations at Hartford Seminary, brings a distinguished scholar to campus for a public presentation on Islam or Christian-Muslim relations to promote interreligious understanding and mutual respect in the local, national and world communities.
Seyyed Hossain Nasr is University Professor of Islamic Studies at the George Washington University in Washington, D.C.
Thank you Hartford Seminary! May God bless you with a better audio system (:
May Allah bless you. The professor is a great blessing to the Muslim world and the human family. A truly enlightened and rare voice of sanity and honor (integrity). Salaam!
Im a Shiite and I love my sunni friends. P.S., those with open minds
Brother, I share your sentiments
Im a Sunnite and I love my shiite friends. P.S., those with open minds
I’m sure this century won’t be doing the mistakes of our ancestors and parents. Everything will be fine
difference between shia and suuni is very very old.but we should respect each other instead of getting iblees happy with fighting each other muslim
Informative and insightful. Thank you for the upload.
When he was 23, and I was 17, I met Seyyed Hossein Nasr in a classroom, at Harvard University, 1956. With less than a sentence from him, I believed in God; my life was changed forever; I became a Muslim, and followed I'm in becoming a disciple of HIS master, Frithjof Schuon. Now I'm 81 and he must be 87. I see a treasure chest, full of knowledge AND wisdom. He gave me a Real Life, an entry into Truth: therefore, I would forgive absolutely anything, and be grateful forever. It is still ESSENTIAL for all those who admire him, as do I, to realize that he is one of the two main successors of Frithjof Schuon; and he is he only disciple of HIS master, whose actual life was affected by his master. This is exceedingly delicate; but it is necessary to understand Frithjof Schuon and the relationship between the two men, to situate the great Dr. Nasr correctly. Moereover, everyone seeking Truth, needs to understand a spiritual mystery which is in the life and doctrines of Frithjof Schuon. To situate his two main successors, Seyyed Hossein Nasr and Martin Lings (as well as all others) everyone should read at least the home page on this site: frithjofschuon.wordpress.com
Interesting lecture. Need to improve sound quality.
The question about the relationship between Asha'arism and the stoppage of the scientific development is an excellent one. I agree with the professor that thinking and development of science have a lot to do with the prevailing philosophy and same is with the direction in which the science goes. I also agree with him saying that Asha'arism certainly did not help ( in his book "History of Islamic philosophy"). We can also clearly see how after the expulsion of philosophy from the school curriculum in the Seljuq state, philosophy was resurected and developed in the east with philosophers in Persia. Interestingly we can also see there continuation of knowledge, scientific development and innovation. Not all but many of those people were shiites and the one responsible for the re-birth of Avicennian philosophy was the polymath Nasruddin Tuse, a shiite.
So now it is clear that in the Islamic world authentic local science development was going hand in hand with an environment where philosophy was aloud and even promoted. It was so in Baghdad during the Abassides, Muslim Spain and Sicily , the Ilhanids and in Muslim India. This is due to thinking being allowed and preferred in general and in particular there is not such thing as science divorced from philosophy, even in the West and that is excellently explained by the professor. So no philosophy, no science.
Another commonality these centers of learning have was the state sponsorship. The state has to be wealthy and stable and the ruling class have to be welcoming and stimulating learning, innovation and philosophy.
The Seljuq state did not have a chance ( even if it would) to do those things because it was relatively short lived.
There were also the Mongols that destroyed the head, the economy and the learning of the sunnis. The sunni intellectual powerhouse was as the professor rightly stated Khurasan, a Persian speaking land. The Mongol devastation affected those part hugely.
When the Mongols converted, it was to shiism on the hands of a student of Nasruddin Tusi. This gave impetus to Nasruddin Tussi's way of looking at things, in science, philosophy and religion.
Thirdly with finding alternative routs to India the middle east got a serious economic hit with the consecutive lessening of the importance of the silk road; Then the West got the riches of holding the Indian trade and plundering the New World.
At 1:00:00 Sheikh Ali Jowhar you mentioned is not Egyptian he is Somali may be you met in Cairo. Can You professor Hussein Confirm him for me?
masha allah!
I didn't listen to the whole talk, but I am curious to know if he mentioned the Bristish influence on Wahhabism/extremism today.
Respected and immense gratitude for the Seyyed Professor.
Facts update, after this speech shiite militias were very active in Syria and committed heinous crimes against the sunis. Wahabis like daesh also were active mostly against the sunis.
Nasr talks about theological and political differences . . . but he doesn't speak much about how Shia emotional sensibility is different from that of Sunnis.
For example: why are the Iranians so much MORE upset with Zionism than most Sunni countries . . . when they have so much LESS personal history with Palestine (?)
If you know the answer to that . . . you understand that the Shia/Sunni difference is not fundamentally political or theological.
Iranian regime is peddling that narrative more in order to prove its righteousness. That is all.
If you understood the name of the journal mentioned at 58:40, can you share it with me? I didn't understand what was said.
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i think - but am not 100% sure
Curly Ali was never a shia, because he was the fourth Caliph! How can a Caliph be a shia? This problem was a much later fabrication from certain people out of political purposes
Sunni friends are suggested to read carefully seven Books( seha sitta). They need to know who killed their beloved holy mother Hazrat Aisha and her brother Muhammad bin Abu Bakr and decide what is the reality of their faith in Imam Abu Hanifa who was himself a humble student of Imam jaffir Sadiq. But truth will be known to them on the day of judgement not before because of Wahabi and Salafi movements in the world.
Shes not just mother to sunnis, shes ummul momineen, mother to all muslims, including shias too. How can u not love n respect the wife of Prophet PBUH whom he loved n cherished
@@Shighar Good point !
@ Solomonman..
Islam prescribes a more conservative minimum dress code for both men and women. In Islam, both men and women are expected to dress simply, modestly, and with dignity. A man must always be covered in loose and unrevealing clothing from his navel to his knee. This is the absolute minimum covering required. He must never, for example, go out in public wearing a short bathing suit. When leaving the home, a Muslim woman must at least cover her hair and body in loose and unrevealing clothing, obscuring the details of her body from the public; some also choose ( by choice not mandated) to cover their face and hands. The wisdom behind this dress code is to minimize sexual enticement and degradation in society as much as possible for both men and women. Obeying this dress code is a form of obedience to God.
33:59 “O Prophet! Say to your wives, your daughters, and the women of the believers that: they should let down upon themselves their jalabib.”
Jalabib: a wide dress, wider than the scarf and shorter than a robe, that a woman puts upon her head and lets it down on her bosom
Another Verse for the Women
24:31 "And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their head covers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed"
For Men
24:30 "Tell the believing men to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. Indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what they do"
And we're also required to dress certain code
Are Muslim females who cover their face and hands more righteous than they who just wear a hijab?
@@alexanderv7702Wearing hijab is enough.
If you want to reduce vision then you should wear sunglasses. But Islam doesn’t tell anyone to reduce their vision
More like a confused audience. Pray tell me where he says the USA should be funding the 'Shii crescent'? And even if he did, how is it a contradiction. Further, even if it was (which it isn't), I'd love to see you justify your claim that it is riddled with contradictions, when I heard none. I can only conclude you don't know what a 'contradiction' is.
If he's a twelver, he has some radically unorthodox beliefs. His interpretation of the schism here is a Sunni one.
You can read Nasr books. I have many of his books and it's actually full of Sunni hadith. He also took many interpretation from various Sunni sources. I am a Sunni, a Shafi'i in fiqh and an Asha'ari in creed and I follow the way of Shattariya Order in sufism.
A Sunni who respects the spiritual tradition of the Shia chain.
He is a Shia, He clearly mentions in his lecture that he follows Twelve Imam Shiism. He's also studied in Iran under Shia Spiritual masters like Allama Tabatabai
@@m.faizansyed5609 true, he's a great man
Jews and Sunnis have commandments, Christians and Shias have agape. Zaydi Muslims have both joy of commandments and agape of Christ and Ali.
He's certainly not an Ismali.
No, Twelver.
@@yojan9238he is Sunni Maliki Shadhili
Clearly he is talking about Muslim demographics only.
Sunni.
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Joining Ahmadiyya would of course be a good way of overcoming Sunni-Shia differences. Added advantage: no more acid attacks on schoolgirls.
+James van der Hoorn# Just be a Muslim and sectarianism altogether - is more in line with the Quran.
+abu sumayyah ,adam Ahmed *shun/avoid secterianism
Whut this has been predicted lol
Ahmadias r not muslims, wud never be, anyone who believes thrs any prophet after Prophet Muhammad PBUH is NOT a muslim. Period. Theres no debate abt that, stop claiming to be muslims, its disgusting n infuriating.
Acid attacks are a temporary problem they are not something that historically happened between sunnis and shias. If there is no real problem your solution is not need . Thanks.