Shion Was Shocked to Learn Sakamata Has Been Her Fan Since Day 1【Hololive】

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 65

  • @pulsed13
    @pulsed13 Рік тому +222

    The template began with 3rd gen iirc because they were the first truly coordinated debut of a gen

    • @hashuvan425
      @hashuvan425 Рік тому +33

      Not really, but kinda,
      Korone's debut was so scuffed it turned into a gamers collab, and because gamers already know each other before hololive they already have a dynamic with each other. 3rd gen then debut officially with the bond of a generation in mind. This is also the time when sub-units and pairs (aside from Sora Azki) started forming (or atleast becoming more official), FAMS, Okakoro, Fubumio, AquShion, AyaFubu etc.

    • @vterans8804
      @vterans8804 Рік тому +55

      Before anyone else giving the wrong information, as the guy who was there I'm confirming.
      Yes it is. It's not "not really", it really was starting on Gen 3.
      Gamers were "subdivision" which Hololive created because they were following trend of dividing talents by stream genre. Nijisanji was the one did it first, but the idea has been initiated by Kizuna Ai who separated her channel from her other different gaming channel. Originally the idea was to divide them into gamers, singers, and the general ones. By the time, streaming Vtubers were mostly doing talking stream and only occasionally gaming or singing. But some do stream games or sing more frequent, so the idea was what if we separate these ones into their own subdivision.
      The idea itself didn't last too long hence Hololive discontinued Gamers after getting 4 talents, while Niji just blurred them back into how they were.
      Going back to the topic, yes it was from Gen 3 in which they started treating the talents as a group. Because prior to that, "Generation" simply means they were debuting within same period, not at all meaning they were born as one single group. It's like how you enter school at the same year as your schoolmates, not necessarily they're your friends or your gang.

    • @riluna3695
      @riluna3695 Рік тому +4

      @@vterans8804 I appreciate the information, but isn't that still off-topic? The question at hand is why Hololive switched from "Debut however you want" to "Debut using this specific format", and we have Korone on record as saying she thinks this is specifically because of how scuffed her own debut was, making the higher-ups realize that a bit of structure may help keep things running smoothly. Whether that's accurate or not, only the staff could tell us for sure, but the timeline certainly lines up.

    • @thevictoryoverhimself7298
      @thevictoryoverhimself7298 Рік тому

      Yea both the concept of a “generation” as we know it now and the whole “idol company” thing really began with 3rd gen.

  • @lqfr8813
    @lqfr8813 Рік тому +163

    no wonder chloe is a cheeky nature. she takes after her oshi

    • @StrikeNoir105E
      @StrikeNoir105E Рік тому +15

      Fun fact: Chloe's past life was conceptually modeled after Shion, which should tell you how big of a fan she was.

    • @surr3al305
      @surr3al305 Рік тому +3

      You mean "takes after".
      "Looks after" means she takes care of her, which has uses the word "takes" and can be confusing. Sigh, English.

    • @beemoh
      @beemoh Рік тому +7

      Chat reflects the streamer.

    • @lqfr8813
      @lqfr8813 Рік тому +1

      @@surr3al305 ah, thx for correction

    • @xboxgorgo18
      @xboxgorgo18 Рік тому

      @@StrikeNoir105E Can you send the link to the previous channel?

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool Рік тому +133

    Shion:I love you.
    Shion:I hope that's pheromones I'm smelling

  • @Raxerm
    @Raxerm Рік тому +56

    There's one Hololive member who had such a banger debut, it could never be improved.
    _DOKKOISHO DOKKOISHO!!_
    _SORAN SORAN!!!_

  • @Absolute__Zero
    @Absolute__Zero Рік тому +21

    I've seen every Holodebut after falling into the holo rabbithole shortly after Fubuki's debut, so to think Chloe was *amogus* during that time is pretty surreal ngl xD

  • @kkhlufris
    @kkhlufris Рік тому +11

    We have the 13 knights of the round table
    Now we have the 2000 soldiers of the village lmao 🤣😂🤣

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool Рік тому +60

    Comedian being fans of comedians. A great timeline we live in.

  • @mysticruin6043
    @mysticruin6043 Місяць тому +1

    She wasn't kidding about redoing her debut lol.

  • @nyperold7530
    @nyperold7530 Рік тому +13

    I remember Mumei doing like a parody of her debut, so that's an option.

  • @edenromanov
    @edenromanov Рік тому +2

    Ahh yeah this just reminded me of that enormous wipe girls gen 0 - 3 had to go through, that was painful some lost as much as 80% of their archived content, months if not years gone because UA-cam was ban happy, a very dark time 😓

  • @Vtuber_Spy
    @Vtuber_Spy Рік тому +15

    Shion alone stream like Kusogaki but if she with Aqua, she is like Aqua mom beside Marine. What a genius Shion👏🏼

  • @Le_Grand_Lui
    @Le_Grand_Lui Рік тому +13

    I would have liked to watch Shion before, my oshi in less than a year. Ever since I discovered her I loved her voice and her kusogaki personality

  • @flugel_133
    @flugel_133 Рік тому +35

    Gen 2 debuted a mere three months after Gen 1... They were also part of the early foundation of hololive, back when their debuts and stuff wasn't 'figured out' and organized yet.

    • @Kancerru
      @Kancerru Рік тому +2

      Damn, didn't know Gen 2 debuted that fast.

    • @HudaefCares
      @HudaefCares Рік тому +7

      ​@@KancerruThey also debuted a few days apart instead of the now typical "one day after another" pattern. Disorganized, "do whatever content you can", that was early Hololive. Fun fact: The first Holomem to collab with a guy was Subaru, just a couple of weeks (iirc) after her debut. She collabed with a NijiLiver named Maimoto Keisuke. ASMR was also big back then so she tried learning how to do it but her whisper voice was hilariously duck-like, which birthed Subarudo "Shuba" Duck and became the founding member of HoloBirds.

    • @SkyBreeze098
      @SkyBreeze098 Рік тому +3

      @@Kancerru not as fast as niji first 3 gens at that time lol, they debut 1 month apart. 😂

    • @joshuagabrielcatindig7607
      @joshuagabrielcatindig7607 Рік тому

      And some are malding that Tempus VG debuted SIX months after HQ?
      Oh right, males...

    • @HudaefCares
      @HudaefCares Рік тому +1

      @@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 Tempus got their live2ds fixed faster than Myth tho. Remember Gura's eye rigging problem? Almost 3yrs as the most subbed vtuber and it's still not fixed. Meanwhile Magni and Vesper got brush ups after just a year.
      I guess in a way it shows that the bigger Holomem are definitely not favored over the ones with lower subs.

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight Рік тому +12

    Chloe is truly learning how to be kusogaki from the best!
    Meanwhile 3rd Gen coordinated debut and coodinates criminal organization xD

  • @HerrHick
    @HerrHick Рік тому +4

    Perhaps for the 2nd gen anniversary they can all redo their debut video since most of them have lost it.

  • @jayrmazing019
    @jayrmazing019 Місяць тому

    And she really did her debut again 😂

  • @aquairo_sora
    @aquairo_sora Місяць тому

    Now that she's back she got to redebut!....as 1002th gen lmao

  • @xKazeshi98x
    @xKazeshi98x Рік тому +1

    Debut streams are like cherries... Once you've done it, you've done it :v

  • @MintyPolaroid
    @MintyPolaroid Рік тому +1

    She absolutely can, I think re:debuts are great for an outfit reveal or live 2D update

  • @DestroyedArkana
    @DestroyedArkana Рік тому +3

    I believe it. Sakamata's past life was similar to Shion's character. I don't know if she was actually inspired by Shion or not for it though.

  • @xuanbachnguyen4119
    @xuanbachnguyen4119 Рік тому +1

    Good time to be alive

  • @TheJum
    @TheJum Рік тому +15

    I still think they should do new debut streams for Gens 0, 1, 2, and Gamers.
    Cook them up “alternate world” outfits as if they got to pick their own design(but same models), then have each Gen do rolling relay debuts from one member into the next. It would be fun, everyone would get to introduce themselves again, the more popular members would help lift up the less popular ones a little, and it would help build some new momentum back up for the older Gens. Plus it would likely help people who are ancy that we haven’t gotten any new members in a while.
    Obviously you would separate each relay by 2-3 months to keep people from being overwhelmed, but it would really help fill up the downtime between things like Holofes and other special events.

    • @SenseiRaisen
      @SenseiRaisen Рік тому +2

      Honestly that will a good idea. I mean Korone make her own one mimicking the scuffed debut she had and does it as if she went back on time to undo that.
      BUT yeah! a new one with proper lore or introduction like we had now days. Specially for the likes of Mel and Aki. I still asking myself how 2 of most cinnammon rolls get a steady but slow growth considering both are the cutest on their own (OF COURSE I KNOW THERE IS TONS OF REASONS TOO, before someone mentioned it).

    • @TheJum
      @TheJum Рік тому

      @@SenseiRaisen plus the majority of those Gens didn’t even debut as idols. Or even in the case of Gen 0, where the majority of them did, they also joined the agency piecemeal under vastly different circumstances, and a debut relay would further cement 0 as its own generation (at least a little).

    • @SenseiRaisen
      @SenseiRaisen Рік тому +1

      @@TheJum i agree

    • @StuninRub
      @StuninRub Рік тому

      That's a dumb idea, thank god the people coming up with ideas aren't missing chromosomes like you.

  • @Daisuke-tw4us
    @Daisuke-tw4us Рік тому +2

    please clip it , if she do the debut stream again

  • @HudaefCares
    @HudaefCares Рік тому +3

    Kinda sad that Shion's debut stream VOD is gone, it's like a historical artifact being lost forever. Well, at least there are clips of their reactions to their debut streams, tho idk if Shion did such a thing.
    Edit: Wrote VOS instead of VOD like a dumbass

    • @vterans8804
      @vterans8804 Рік тому

      There are clips made by the OG Japanese clippers. It's not that hard to find, just type it in Japanese.

    • @shojun11
      @shojun11 Рік тому

      Why was it gone ?

    • @HudaefCares
      @HudaefCares Рік тому +1

      @@shojun11 Well, it was most likely among the VODs that was taken down during the July Copystrike incident of 2020. TL;DR Ookami Mio suddenly got hit with two copystrikes from different game companies one day, which made management panic coz of youtube's "3 strikes and you're out (as in channel deletion)" rule. So they mass-privated a lot of VODs, and in Subaru's case it was a mass-deletion. You can google some keywords around for more info, but iirc Subaru and Miko (well and obviously Mio) were the ones most affected by the incident. But at the same time that was also the reason why Minecraft was a boom in Hololive that year, afaik anyway. I might be wrong.

    • @shojun11
      @shojun11 Рік тому

      @@HudaefCares Thanks.

  • @healme69420
    @healme69420 Рік тому +2

    Why the archive gone?

    • @forceedge2005
      @forceedge2005 Рік тому +8

      It might be from the copyright fiasco that happened back in 2020. A lot of Holomember's archives got privated until Cover could figure out which games they had permission for. Unfortunately some of the managers mistakenly deleted entire archives of the talents like Subaru. Shion might've lost some of her archive streams because of that.

    • @healme69420
      @healme69420 Рік тому

      @@forceedge2005 ohhh that's suck..so that happen for gen2 and above?

    • @ivanwandana2012
      @ivanwandana2012 Рік тому

      ​@@healme69420 sora already being sad after hearing her archived were deleted , idk about other

    • @kaelanmcalpine2011
      @kaelanmcalpine2011 Рік тому

      @@healme69420 I'm guessing it happened to everyone up to either JP Gen 4 or Stars Gen 3. But I really only got into watching Vtubers like November of last year so, what do I know?

  • @anhkduc7930
    @anhkduc7930 Рік тому

    Chloe previous incarnation is a flat chest purple hair witch, i can see why

  • @megankoss
    @megankoss Рік тому

    "promosm" 😇

  • @user-lj8yq9vs8t
    @user-lj8yq9vs8t Рік тому

    I was not aware UA-cam deletes old live archives. Is it 5 years?

    • @KovoN
      @KovoN Рік тому +3

      very old hololive (when they were still new and inexperienced) they used to stream games, sometimes without fully obtaining permission yet. this lead to to an event i think with dark souls developers not being happy? one of the big companies anyway. and realizing how important it was to get permission for things to stream, to evade copyright, cover privated or deleted massive amount of old videos on multiple channels some time in late 2019-early 2020.
      they are restoring old archives they do get permissions for though. an example of this is subaru's undertale streams which are now re-uploaded as videos instead of a live.
      but its also up to the talents to restore videos apparently, so shion might not have went through the effort to restore her archives yet.

    • @user-lj8yq9vs8t
      @user-lj8yq9vs8t Рік тому

      @@KovoN Thank you for the detailed information!

    • @kaelanmcalpine2011
      @kaelanmcalpine2011 Рік тому +2

      @@KovoN I think I read it was mainly Capcom, and maybe Nintendo, that took issue with this, specifically with Mio's Ghost Trick streams