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  • Опубліковано 12 тра 2021
  • The 1950s were an era of aircraft innovation. Engineer Frank Piasecki believed that conventional helicopters were not designed to their full potential, so he came up with a unique blueprint that would eventually be known as The Flying Banana.
    This H-21 helicopter had a long fuselage, two rotors in a tandem arrangement, and its rear slanted upwards to prevent the blades from overlapping.
    Although the H-21 was initially designed for sub-zero weather conditions, the helicopter honorably served the US Army during the Vietnam War.
    The distinctive aircraft was mainly used as a troop transportation carrier, but the H-21 was also the mainstay combat air assault force helicopter during the earlier years of the conflict...
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  • @whalesong999
    @whalesong999 3 роки тому +6

    There was a lot of rethinking when Boeing became the owner of the helicopter line. My step dad was one of the engineering and production design team members from Wichita to take on the challenge of seeing just what they had back then. He related stories to me on how primitive some operations were at Piasecki when they came onto the scene. They were using wooden yard sticks for doing what amounted to critical measurements and there were many variables that allowed as much as 1/4" off in matching fuselage parts. Construction of hydraulic pipes and hoses amounted to them being custom for each unit so there was a very large parts replacement inventory but there was no guarantee it would fit any unit already out in the field. Interesting stuff.

  • @biomecraft356
    @biomecraft356 3 роки тому +326

    Imagine Terminator with this helicopter.
    "AAEUGH! Get to the Banana!"

    • @r.m.l2665
      @r.m.l2665 3 роки тому +4

      @@dindrmindr626 😂😂😂😂

    • @leroyjenkins4811
      @leroyjenkins4811 3 роки тому +16

      You’re thinking about Terminator. The correct movie reference is Predator. Arnold barely had any speaking lines in Terminator at all.

    • @remliqa
      @remliqa 3 роки тому +4

      Terminator? Arnold was a Commando in that movie.

    • @biomecraft356
      @biomecraft356 3 роки тому +2

      I think we're all confused about which movie is which.

    • @cortex8239
      @cortex8239 3 роки тому +1

      @@leroyjenkins4811 Called a joke

  • @jampie66
    @jampie66 3 роки тому +357

    I find it hilarious that he says "Banana" with such a stern and serious voice.

    • @Odin197188
      @Odin197188 3 роки тому +19

      He says EVERYTHING like he means business! Makes for occasional hilarity!

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 3 роки тому +14

      There's nothing funny about bananas. _Nothing._

    • @FrostedSeagull
      @FrostedSeagull 3 роки тому +6

      @@williamchamberlain2263 🍌🍌🍌👍😂

    • @shengyi1701
      @shengyi1701 3 роки тому +2

      Unless you’re a Minion … Beedo … Beedo

    • @HighSpeedNoDrag
      @HighSpeedNoDrag 3 роки тому

      How do You say it?

  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 3 роки тому +71

    “Banana 2 and Banana 3, this is Banana 1. At 1,000 feet, peel off and begin your run…”

  • @diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754
    @diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754 3 роки тому +563

    "The Flying Banana"... To Slip between the enemy lines.

    • @jeraldsantosmunoz6273
      @jeraldsantosmunoz6273 3 роки тому +13

      Definitely 🤣

    • @hecunt3633
      @hecunt3633 3 роки тому +18

      Kill me, please

    • @ebayerr
      @ebayerr 3 роки тому +33

      Diego Vinicio Mejía Quesada : "... To Slip between the enemy lines."....And unload it's troops.

    • @diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754
      @diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754 3 роки тому +12

      @@hecunt3633 Bang Bang Bang! You dieded.

    • @hecunt3633
      @hecunt3633 3 роки тому +8

      @@diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754 Many thanks.

  • @nicholascorbett1256
    @nicholascorbett1256 3 роки тому +121

    My grandad flew in one. Of course know-it-all young me swore he was mistaken that they were called Chinooks an that I never heard of them being called that 🤔lol after I finished my air tight argument he politely smiled at me an asked me to grab the binder beside me. An then in the most humble way possible I was proven wrong, an quite thoroughly I might add. I learned a valuable lesson that day. Miss our talks.

    • @amstrad00
      @amstrad00 3 роки тому +6

      The Chinook is a completely different tandem rotor helicopter. It's somewhat similar in shape to the Shawnee, but distinctly less 'banana' shaped. I could see how someone might get them confused however.

    • @nicholascorbett1256
      @nicholascorbett1256 3 роки тому +10

      Well like I said I was young an thought I knew it all. I really started to figure what did what

    • @petesheppard1709
      @petesheppard1709 3 роки тому +4

      Back in the '70s, for many people, any helicopter was a Huey--even a CH-53...

    • @nealbradleigh5069
      @nealbradleigh5069 3 роки тому +1

      This happened in the presence of a kind, loving relative, with age and experience weighing down his side of the misunderstanding.
      Knowing what I had engrained in my grey matter, I allowed my elders to always be "right". Some older and younger people make midtakes!
      A different story with my air force cousins. They caught it at every opportunity for me to bang on about all things military!

    • @nicholascorbett1256
      @nicholascorbett1256 3 роки тому

      @@nealbradleigh5069 Well, I think it's almost like an accomplished feeling for them. Because your only going off of what you've read or seen in documentaries, I assume. They lived it, breathed it, or felt it. Or to be blunt they experienced it, an you fantasized it.

  • @scalawaggywakyman
    @scalawaggywakyman 3 роки тому +119

    At 7:49 First picture is the CH-47 Chinook for the ARMY and the second pic is the CH-46 Sea Knight for the NAVY and Marines.

    • @zepter00
      @zepter00 3 роки тому +4

      Piasecki designed all of these machines. Son of Polish nation.

    • @blackdeath4eternity
      @blackdeath4eternity 3 роки тому +1

      guess he swapped up his footage lol

    • @zepter00
      @zepter00 3 роки тому

      @@daviddou1408 Piasecki designed ch-47.

    • @nevrock1
      @nevrock1 3 роки тому +3

      All these Dark Sky videos have ton of weird problems that are fun to point out.

    • @geohodg5764
      @geohodg5764 3 роки тому +1

      If the 46 ain’t leaking it’s empty

  • @jonathanperry8331
    @jonathanperry8331 3 роки тому +150

    One of the most ancient helicopters but way ahead of its time. She was a beast

    • @Retronyx
      @Retronyx 3 роки тому +3

      lol what a joke

    • @stevesullivan9752
      @stevesullivan9752 3 роки тому +11

      @@Retronyx

    • @atomicskull6405
      @atomicskull6405 3 роки тому +3

      It's successor the CH-47 is still being made and is planned to stay in production until at least the 2060's. (each new version is basically a brand new design based on the same general configuration though)

    • @dakkuri1
      @dakkuri1 3 роки тому +5

      tech we got from the nazi's

    • @theBraxil
      @theBraxil 3 роки тому +3

      underpowered and lasting only a quarter of the designed lifetime, only able to lift off with 9 of the 20 seats filled it was a TOTAL BEAST.

  • @Eatherbreather
    @Eatherbreather 3 роки тому +206

    You'd think a banana would do well in the tropics.

    • @chickensfloat7427
      @chickensfloat7427 3 роки тому +12

      🐒🙈🙊🐒 eat them all

    • @jamessimms415
      @jamessimms415 3 роки тому +14

      Especially in Banana Republics......

    • @jamespeters2859
      @jamespeters2859 3 роки тому +3

      Excellent comment!

    • @edhikurniawan
      @edhikurniawan 3 роки тому +4

      You'll find more banana varieties at Tropics. Not just Cavendish. So, i think yes they do even better.

    • @randyj4452
      @randyj4452 3 роки тому +2

      Good Form! Rather Witty! Thank you!

  • @larryheagren5171
    @larryheagren5171 3 роки тому +3

    I was an Engineer on the D E F and G Chinook programs. I worked in the buildings shown in this video and was on shift when we had an earthquake in 2011. It shook but the buildings were built well and no damage happened. As a kid I had a model of the Banana. It was called the Whirly Bird by Remco. This brings back memories. Thanks.

  • @galatians-2.20
    @galatians-2.20 3 роки тому +213

    Imagine flying into battle in a giant green banana. I wonder what the NVA and Vietcong thought when they saw that bird coming In to shit on them.

    • @leliboo2445
      @leliboo2445 3 роки тому +18

      Vietcong: "this remind me my wife cooks at home"

    • @theodoreolson8529
      @theodoreolson8529 3 роки тому +7

      Yea we sure showed them.

    • @cheeseschrist2303
      @cheeseschrist2303 3 роки тому +2

      @@theodoreolson8529 Yes, "Peace with Honor".

    • @MrSwareism
      @MrSwareism 3 роки тому +2

      They know more about it after battles like Ấp Bắc, in which they ambushed the landing zone or around the fallen Helicopter wait for the rescue party.

    • @letoubib21
      @letoubib21 3 роки тому +1

      With only a bit dimenhydrate they could even stand that really weird sight ...

  • @Paladin1873
    @Paladin1873 3 роки тому +4

    One of my JROTC instructors in high school had been a H-21 crew chief in South Vietnam in 1963. Because of the engine concerns it was necessary for him to periodically inspect it during missions. This required him to don a safety harness and swing outside the door while inflight. Whenever they were carrying passengers, he would announce it was hot and planned to step outside to cool off. He always enjoyed the looks on their unsuspecting faces when he did so.

  • @galatians-2.20
    @galatians-2.20 3 роки тому +28

    Why have I NEVER seen or heard of this incredibly hilarious piece of history!??!? I am 30 years old and have been researching war history(mostly ww2 and ww1) since I was in 6th grade until now. History has always fascinated me and I know there are many lessons to learn from the past. I also learned about Vietnam a good amount but definitely less than other wars but I'm still very surprised I have not seen or heard of the floating banana lol not until today. Glad I can learn some things today!

    • @Dsdcain
      @Dsdcain 3 роки тому +6

      Not picking on you in any way, but you *sort of* answered your own question/statement. Your interest has been WW1 and WW2, so it's not terribly surprising that you missed "flying bananas" along the way. Really cool to hear someone your age is interested in history though. So many folks your age have zero interest in history.
      Again, not making fun. Just thought it was, um, sort of, funny. Peace. 😎

    • @galatians-2.20
      @galatians-2.20 3 роки тому +3

      I hear you but I said I have mostly studied ww1 and ww2 but have also studied the Vietnam War but not as much. I still have watched many good documentaries about Vietnam including the Vietnam in HD documentary and through all the footage I have never once seen that helicopter. It's just kind of surprising to me I guess lol

    • @Dsdcain
      @Dsdcain 3 роки тому +4

      @@galatians-2.20 No worries. It's an extremely early part of the Vietnam War that's not really covered when it comes to aircraft at the early stages. Like I said no "hate" or "making fun" or anything. Like I said. I'm happy that someone your age likes history. I'm in my 50s and have always been a history nut. Seriously, all my great uncles and grandfathers were WW2 vets and my friends and I growing up had Vietnam vets for fathers. So, ya know, history is important. 😎

    • @robertdereski9156
      @robertdereski9156 3 роки тому +2

      I've done same but on vietnam war and Korean War should read into especially sog and the ravens, fought the secret war across the fence during vietnam war

    • @markowsley4954
      @markowsley4954 3 роки тому +2

      @@galatians-2.20 the pbs documentary on Vietnam by Ken Burns covers the battle of Ap Bac quite well. 4 H21's and one Huey were shot down during the battle and two of the three Americans killed were crew members on the h21's.

  • @swagnificent45
    @swagnificent45 3 роки тому +22

    Ive had the honor of flying formation with thr last flying one in Ramona CA, while piloting a Huey. The H21 is so loud, all we could hear was the 21, even from inside the Huey.

  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 3 роки тому +17

    “I love the smell of bananas in the morning… smells like victory!”

  • @RickOAA
    @RickOAA 3 роки тому +4

    Got to be a passenger in CH-46's many times...as well as having fast roped out of them on occassion...one of the funnest and most exhilarating things I've ever done. Nice to see something about the predecessor.

  • @DS_92
    @DS_92 3 роки тому +24

    the dark channels are some of the most underrated on youtube
    side note: your ch46 and ch47 pix are backwards

  • @daylenhigman8680
    @daylenhigman8680 3 роки тому +4

    Imagine you've never seen or heard a helicopter in your entire life, and you see that thing come above the tree line after hearing it for 3 minutes

  • @Niinsa62
    @Niinsa62 3 роки тому +11

    There's one in the Swedish Air Force museum, that is right by my workplace. We have lunch sometimes in the museum restaurant, and take a stroll in the museum, since it's free. So I've seen it up close a number of times. Looks really cool!

  • @Hopeless_and_Forlorn
    @Hopeless_and_Forlorn 3 роки тому +1

    The year must have been 1956, and I was a kid standing on the observation platform atop the terminal building at Dallas Love field. At that time the terminal was on the east side of the field off Lemmon Ave. I often went there to watch airline traffic, but on this day a sizable squadron of H-21s appeared in trailing formation and began executing rolling landings. They taxied to a ramp and parked, all with impressive precision. I don't know why they were there, but they were certainly a strange flock of birds.

  • @tunes699moon2
    @tunes699moon2 3 роки тому +4

    Always loved this bird! When I was a kid, I built an H21 out of Tinker Toys complete with hoist!

  • @brookgr
    @brookgr 3 роки тому +12

    One of my uncles was a in flight mechanic on one when he was in the Air Force during the Vietnam war.

  • @michaelszczekot8920
    @michaelszczekot8920 3 роки тому +25

    I remember seeing shawnees flying as a kid I guess they were still using them as trainers and still see chinooks all the time. I live near Ft Rucker Alabama where a lot of helicopter pilot training is done including Apaches

    • @hueydoc
      @hueydoc 3 роки тому

      Dothan, Opp, Andalusa and Enterprise were all familiar to us going thru flight school at Rucker

    • @michaelszczekot8920
      @michaelszczekot8920 3 роки тому

      @@hueydoc Slocomb to be Exact

  • @Wideoval73
    @Wideoval73 2 роки тому +1

    Another really good video on a historic chopper. "The Flying Banana "

  • @joekurtz8303
    @joekurtz8303 3 роки тому +13

    Used to see one fly over Long Beach Ca. awhile back. You could hear the drone of the radials for miles before you saw it. Fine piece of machinery.

    • @craigwall9536
      @craigwall9536 3 роки тому +4

      Only ONE radial engine in an H-21. And I'm surprised it never got upgraded to a turbine, but most of them timed out due to their wooden rotor blades. If you see one that's been out in the weather too long, the blades just fall apart when water gets into them. That "cold weather operation" rubric was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the under-powered design that required low density altitude to have reliable performance. This was in the early days of helicopters, when low disk and power loadings were the rule because bigger piston engines and rotor dynamics made so much vibration they literally shook themselves apart.

    • @joekurtz8303
      @joekurtz8303 3 роки тому +1

      @@craigwall9536 this one I saw , is at Van Nuys I believe & there is a video on YT , on that airframe
      Thnx for info.

    • @DavidS-iw4ei
      @DavidS-iw4ei 3 роки тому +1

      In the old days I worked on the last CH-21 in El Cajon at Gillespie Field. It was a lot of fun to fly in.
      rotors.org/

    • @joekurtz8303
      @joekurtz8303 3 роки тому +2

      @@DavidS-iw4ei got a ride in an old H34(radial) LASD-air frame retired in 87-' in 84'-medevac to hospital. Only time flown, never even a fixed wing ride.

  • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
    @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 3 роки тому +32

    There’s a few of these at Pima air museum. You can even see inside

    • @chrispile3878
      @chrispile3878 3 роки тому +2

      Great museum! Spent a whole day there once.

    • @cdstoc
      @cdstoc 3 роки тому +2

      I've been to Pima twice, the last time with my dad, a retired USAF Chief. He remembered the tail number of every plane he worked on in the air force, and several of "his" planes are at Pima.

    • @charleshill3468
      @charleshill3468 3 роки тому

      They have one at the Army Aviation Museum in Ft. Rucker, AL where the Army trains Army pilots and Warrant Officers

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 3 роки тому

      Our local surplus salvage yard had one out front that I used to crawl over as a teenager. It was smaller in real life than it seemed on the screen.

  • @Grarder
    @Grarder 3 роки тому +1

    This is one of the videos I most wanted them to make. Thank you, this was awesome! Love these weird but brilliant machines.

  • @jamespeters2859
    @jamespeters2859 3 роки тому +1

    Love these vids, they guy making ‘em finds the most unusual, unique military stuff to wise us up about. Freaking superb! Thanks.

  • @jmace5964
    @jmace5964 3 роки тому +6

    The engine in this thing is the 1820 radial that powered the b17 and dc3

  • @vaughn6122
    @vaughn6122 3 роки тому +23

    minor detail but you got the names of the helicopters switched here 7:50 The first one is the CH-47 the second is the CH-46

    • @skunkjobb
      @skunkjobb 3 роки тому +3

      Yes, I thought about that too.

    • @davem2369
      @davem2369 3 роки тому +3

      If you watch this channel often enough you'll find there are all sorts of problems in their videos, thats a minor one

    • @heavenst.murgatroyd3128
      @heavenst.murgatroyd3128 3 роки тому +5

      I made that same comment before seeing others saw the same mistake. As a Chinook FE, I demand perfection when talking about my girl for 21 years! 😄

    • @vaughn6122
      @vaughn6122 3 роки тому

      @@heavenst.murgatroyd3128 Nothing but perfection!

    • @vaughn6122
      @vaughn6122 3 роки тому

      @@davem2369 yeah, other than that the channel is really good. Minor details are important sometimes.

  • @lynnwood7205
    @lynnwood7205 3 роки тому +13

    In the early 1960's the Department of Defense interceded in the service rivalry which found the US Army with more fixed wing aircraft than the US Air Force and the Air Force in competition with the Army and the Navy over helicopters.
    Basically after the decision the Army got the helicopters and the Air Force the fixed wing airplanes.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 3 роки тому +3

      The Army was allowed to keep fixed-wing small observation and liaison aircraft as part of the deal. The USAF had little interest in choppers and did not fully appreciate their potential as a ground attack aircraft. Also, the Air Force was miffed about the Army having CV-2 Caribous, seeing it as a threat to the much larger Air Force C-123 Provider (which itself started life as an assault glider). As part of the deal the USAF got all of the Army's CV-2s and rechristened them C-7s.

    • @lynnwood7205
      @lynnwood7205 3 роки тому

      @@Paladin1873 Thank you.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 3 роки тому +1

      @@lynnwood7205 My pleasure. I knew two CV-2/C-7 pilots, one Army, the other USAF. The former was a retired Army WO who told me his unit participated in a competition between their aircraft and the C-123 in the ealry 1960s and beat them in short-field landing and takeoff. The C-123 was much larger and carried double the payload, so it would not surprise me that it lost. He also told me he had transitioned into the Caribou from the Bell H-13 (Bell Model 47) where he had once tested them as potential gunships. They mounted several Browning 1919 30 caliber machine guns on the skids. I think this configuration saw some limited service early in the Vietnam War.
      The USAF pilot was a later coworker of mine who had flown the C-7 in South Vietnam in the late 1960s. He told me one humorous story about flying down a river and spotting some suspicious looking characters on an island, so he buzzed them. When he returned to base the maintenance crew found a bullet hole in the throttle quadrant between the two pilot seats and a matching hole in the roof. Not bad shooting for a Gook. ;-)

  • @zepter00
    @zepter00 3 роки тому +7

    Piasecki designed also CH-47 Chinook what is still produced. I ma proud that he was son of Polish nation.

  • @RNOBGE
    @RNOBGE 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks My Dad flew these in the Air force in the late 50's up in Alaska and crash's 4 time do to engine failure

  • @macuss87
    @macuss87 3 роки тому +6

    Good timing while the Apple v epic is going over and over a banana character!

  • @RedondoBeach2
    @RedondoBeach2 3 роки тому +20

    3:38 Is this film footage of Hal Moore prior to the Vietnam era? The person in the video is a Captain. I believe Hal Moore was a Lieutenant Colonel during his time in Vietnam.

    • @donnash5813
      @donnash5813 3 роки тому +4

      I wondered the same thing. It look a bit like him.

    • @aceofthesky1247
      @aceofthesky1247 3 роки тому +3

      I think so. I know in the first American battle, Moore was a LtCol

  • @davidtucker3729
    @davidtucker3729 3 роки тому +1

    a good idea is always a good idea, even if it is an old idea. Like they say, whats old is new again. Heck a smart designer that piasecki. He must be proud to see his designs carried on through the years

  • @jamesbaker7112
    @jamesbaker7112 2 роки тому

    All decades since 1900 have been eras of aircraft innovation.

  • @Justanotherconsumer
    @Justanotherconsumer 3 роки тому +48

    Imagine the crap that “officer Penney” got for having the initial JC.

    • @VexChoccyMilk
      @VexChoccyMilk 3 роки тому +3

      I'm thinking his name was Officer Bryson Penney, but his nickname initials were "JC".

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel 3 роки тому

      Yeah. No parent is going to give their children the middle initials of JC if the last name is Penny.

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel 3 роки тому +1

      @@patrickglaser1560 Good point! But parents had more common sense back then.

  • @whackingtadpole8972
    @whackingtadpole8972 3 роки тому +2

    Got to see this thing at the museum at Hill AFB, it is glorious.

  • @davidbarnsley8486
    @davidbarnsley8486 3 роки тому +1

    I never knew they had flown in Vietnam
    I learned something new today
    Thanks dark skies 👍👍

  • @690_5
    @690_5 3 роки тому +5

    Hey, Canada used these! There's actually one sitting right outside of my house!

  • @bigav8r
    @bigav8r 3 роки тому +1

    Also really liking the background jam.

  • @scottprendergast5262
    @scottprendergast5262 9 місяців тому

    Piasecki didn't leave in 56 he was OUSTED

  • @johnmoran8805
    @johnmoran8805 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this one!

  • @bobbieratclif9519
    @bobbieratclif9519 3 роки тому

    Simply superb!

  • @philmead3579
    @philmead3579 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this highly informative video about the Piasecki. You filled in my knowledge gap for this particular chopper👍

  • @TheMichiganMachinist
    @TheMichiganMachinist 3 роки тому

    this is one of my favorite helicopter.

  • @dano4572
    @dano4572 3 роки тому

    beautiful aircraft

  • @subdawg1331
    @subdawg1331 3 роки тому

    another great one wow thanks

  • @michaelfrench3396
    @michaelfrench3396 3 роки тому +13

    What is that Shawnee at 8:22 doing? It looks like it's got either eight or 16 rocket strap to the front gear

    • @duncanmcgee13
      @duncanmcgee13 3 роки тому +7

      Your answer would be at 0:35

    • @teddyabearo1066
      @teddyabearo1066 3 роки тому +2

      Spot On! Got the enemy
      heads down, inbound
      to the landing zone. 🤟🏽🐻

  • @hertzair1186
    @hertzair1186 3 роки тому

    Always liked Piasecki designs

  • @paoloviti6156
    @paoloviti6156 3 роки тому

    Really I love your videos on various airplanes and this video on the flying banana is no exception. I didn't know that the engines was not suitable to the way the helicopter was operated continuously at high rpm therefore stressing and shorting the life of those engines...

  • @unclebob6728
    @unclebob6728 3 роки тому

    thank you!

  • @kend3900
    @kend3900 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent

  • @TheDragon1986
    @TheDragon1986 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you for your videos! 7:48 You mixed up the CH-46 and the CH-47. The shown order is CH-47 Chinook and CH-46 Sea Knight

    • @suma4m
      @suma4m 3 роки тому

      8:03 Also Huey is not "jet" powered, it's turbine powered.

  • @dotMSOffice
    @dotMSOffice 3 роки тому +1

    Funfact: The Frankfurt fire department ran trials with the H-21C in 1968 to test the effectivness of civilian rescue helicopters. It was noted after the 12 day trial that helicopter served a important contribution in the fight against car accident related deaths. The helicopter carried a doctor and paramedics on board and the crew (2 pilots and a mechanic) were part of the west german army. In total it could carry 4 patients on stretchers and another 4 seated patients. Because there were no helicopter landing pads or a dedicated air traffic control system in place the helicopter had to land on a open field. The patients were then transported by a Emergency-Doctor-Amuclance (Ambulance with Doctor on board) to the Hospital. The helicopter itself was being commanded and guided by the city's fire department Incident Comand Bus. 4 years later, on August 15th 1972, the city of Frankfurt received it's first own Civil Protection Helicopter "Cristoph 2". One year prior to the 12 day trials in 1967, Doctor Hans-Werner Feder ran a similar 3 week long test trial but instead of an army helicopter that could carry paramedics, doctor and the patients, Doctor Feder was flown in a 2-seater Brantly B2B, he dubbed this the Emergency Doctor Helicopter. High ranking officials observed the 1967 project with keen interest, such as Senior Chief Fire Director (Leitende Oberbranddirektor) of Frankfurt Fire Department Ernst Achilles and Chief Police Doctor Medical Director (Leitende Polizeiarzt Medizinaldirektor) Dr. Th. Kunz.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 роки тому

      Bundeswehr do paramedic duty too?

    • @dotMSOffice
      @dotMSOffice 3 роки тому

      @@Joshua_N-A yes, but at that time not for civilians

  • @Robert-ff9wf
    @Robert-ff9wf 3 роки тому +6

    I think the tandem helicopters are a superior design as of evidence of the chinook which could be used well into the future because it's a great design!!

    • @WildWestRaider
      @WildWestRaider 3 роки тому

      It was just retired recently, by the USA at least. Been seeing a lot more privately owned ones lately

    • @teddyabearo1066
      @teddyabearo1066 3 роки тому

      Still our fastest rotorcraft. 🤟🏽🐻

    • @kilo21swp
      @kilo21swp 3 роки тому

      More stable flight routine. I heard a good chunk of the retired 46 fleet went to the State Dept. Used it for their overseas fleet if I remember right.

  • @frtdog
    @frtdog 3 роки тому +5

    I flew the Huey in Nam in 1966. Only ever saw one H21 and that was in Germany.

    • @cat637d
      @cat637d 3 роки тому +2

      Thank you👍👍👍👍👍

  • @markowsley4954
    @markowsley4954 3 роки тому +1

    The Army Aviation Museum at Ft Rucker has one on display. The building next door is named after one of the H21 crew members who were killed during the Battle of Ap Bac on 2 January 1963.

  • @cat637d
    @cat637d 3 роки тому

    Excellent👍

  • @johnnybagofdoughnuts4193
    @johnnybagofdoughnuts4193 3 роки тому

    You make great stuff my dude

  • @jasonshull3106
    @jasonshull3106 3 роки тому +1

    Great video as always, I have an old plastic model kit of this aircraft, you inspired me to build it. Kit is Atlantis H 25.

  • @synthilein
    @synthilein 3 роки тому

    Interesting Video
    I never knew this helicopter even existed until now…

  • @robertkerr4199
    @robertkerr4199 3 роки тому +23

    Would love to see a video on the KA-50...

  • @JG-xm8jy
    @JG-xm8jy 3 роки тому

    This was a good one

  • @TheMrPeteChannel
    @TheMrPeteChannel 3 роки тому

    I found this video most appealing.

  • @kamilf.8992
    @kamilf.8992 3 роки тому +3

    Frank Piasecki (actually Franciszek Piasecki) was a son of polish emigrant Nikodem Piasecki who left Poland in 1915. And his surname is pronounced completely differently by the way.

    • @kkpriest5880
      @kkpriest5880 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly. It’s hard for me to listen to it

    • @kamilf.8992
      @kamilf.8992 3 роки тому

      @@kkpriest5880 ty też z Polski?

    • @kkpriest5880
      @kkpriest5880 3 роки тому +1

      @@kamilf.8992 tak jest

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 3 роки тому

    Nice overview of a little-known aircraft.

  • @greatwhiteape6945
    @greatwhiteape6945 3 роки тому +1

    Cool!

  • @michaelharper4989
    @michaelharper4989 3 роки тому

    Met Frank back in the day when we were studying The Modern Dirigibles at NASA. He came up withe the Blopter a combination of a blimp and 4 copers. It crashed when one copter failed.

  • @williamturner1517
    @williamturner1517 3 роки тому +2

    My H-21 transition was cut short when they were pulled from service, this was July , 1967.

  • @danielkincheloe6701
    @danielkincheloe6701 3 роки тому

    Good point about that radial engine running at high power all the time. Also incredibly loud. Very limited payload in hot weather.

  • @777cmm777
    @777cmm777 2 роки тому

    My favorite variant of the H-21 was the Remco Whirleybird toy version of the early 1960s.

  • @esco51030
    @esco51030 3 роки тому

    @Dark Skies Do you add music any to your description?

  • @jamessimms415
    @jamessimms415 3 роки тому

    Flew in both the Chinook @ Ft. Riley, KS & Blackhawk in Panama. Good times

  • @billward6222
    @billward6222 2 роки тому

    Had a bunch at Elmendorf AFB in Alaska when I served there in the 60s.

  • @Mike-oxlong1029
    @Mike-oxlong1029 3 роки тому

    Could you do a video on the silorsky h34/s58? I would be sooooo stoked. I love listening to your channel while driving

  • @gabrielgoniteli4650
    @gabrielgoniteli4650 3 роки тому +16

    can you do the Ilyushin Il-2 Sturmovik

  • @markrossow6303
    @markrossow6303 3 роки тому +1

    there was a yellow (of course...) one at Issaquah Skyport, east of Seattle, used for skydiving, into 1980s
    Costco HQ is there now, plus large shopping area

  • @stevesullivan9752
    @stevesullivan9752 3 роки тому +2

    First person to fly a helicopter indoors? German test pilot Hannah Reitsch during ww2.

  • @caalcb7
    @caalcb7 3 роки тому +4

    I always thought this helicopter was the predecessor of Chinook. Turns out it is.

  • @elijahwolf37
    @elijahwolf37 3 роки тому

    This is why you don’t get hungry when making aircrafts

  • @johanness6545
    @johanness6545 3 роки тому

    Great Video, but could you please also mention the metrical units

  • @Einwetok
    @Einwetok 2 роки тому

    Dark Skies, how about one on the CH-37 Mojave? It was in the early Vietnam War with the Army and Marines. You can see the progression to the Sea Stallion in it's lines. It could actually sling load one of these H-21's!

  • @johancronisk3405
    @johancronisk3405 3 роки тому +1

    Always great music. What is it?

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 3 роки тому +5

    The voice is excellent for this channel....Thanks

  • @CH47Flyingtwinkie
    @CH47Flyingtwinkie 3 роки тому

    I am am aviation mechanic and I work rotory wing. Thank you very much!

  • @TheDing1701
    @TheDing1701 3 роки тому +1

    "Six foot, seven foot, eight foot bunch!"

  • @elliottesayian2711
    @elliottesayian2711 3 роки тому

    Please do a video on the B-2!

  • @Mr.Nobody01211
    @Mr.Nobody01211 3 роки тому +6

    7:49
    "It produced the CH-46 for the Navy and Marine Corps"
    *shows the CH-47 Chinook*
    "As well as the now iconic CH-47 for the US Army"
    *shows the CH-46 Sea Knight*

    • @ghostman68
      @ghostman68 3 роки тому

      Glad someone else caught that too. Still a good video

    • @Niinsa62
      @Niinsa62 3 роки тому

      I came here to make that exact comment, but you beat me to it by five hours! :-)

  • @alphakky
    @alphakky 3 роки тому

    A few years ago, very surprised to see one flying in the Riverside, CA area. 😳

  • @rafaelsomething5880
    @rafaelsomething5880 3 роки тому +1

    Please make a video for the A4 Skyhawk

  • @gregryan7761
    @gregryan7761 3 роки тому

    I recall a story told to me by a combat veteran concerning these "bananas". A group of ARVN aviators had been trained to fly the H-21 and were on their maiden takeoff. The pilots of the 3 helicopters got their rolling start down the runway, none of them taking off as they all 3 rolled past the end of the runway and piled into each other. Quite a mess. That was the end of training ARVN pilots to fly the H-21's.

  • @stijnVDA1994
    @stijnVDA1994 3 роки тому +5

    The chinook and sea knight images are switched

  • @elphi4321
    @elphi4321 3 роки тому +3

    As a former CH-46D crew chief with the Marines, we only knew them as 'Frogs' (it what they looked like from the front). Though I have described them as green (eventually gray) 'Bananas, if you looked at them from the side.

    • @heavenst.murgatroyd3128
      @heavenst.murgatroyd3128 3 роки тому +4

      Watched the -46's do an amazing display of VertRep aboard CV66, during Operation: Uphold Democracy. We had our -60's and (my airframe) -47's aboard. Two -47 friends were prior USMC -46 guys. They enjoyed being able to stand up straight! 😉

    • @brianprowse2543
      @brianprowse2543 3 роки тому +2

      Phrog. You should know that lol.

    • @ryeridinger4897
      @ryeridinger4897 3 роки тому +1

      @@brianprowse2543 ..👌🏻 thiiiiis.🤣🤣 "Ph"rogsPhorever! 🤘🏻🔥🤘🏻

    • @ryeridinger4897
      @ryeridinger4897 3 роки тому +2

      I've had part in several occurrences with the ole girl🤘🏻 phased out the last Deltas at Cherry Point, helped retire the last Echo models at Quantico, and help build up the first civilian Echoes for firefighting in Wyoming.

    • @elphi4321
      @elphi4321 3 роки тому

      @@brianprowse2543 I stand 'Corrected.' LOL

  • @zachnance478
    @zachnance478 3 роки тому +13

    Pilot J.C penny called out to door gunner Fred Meyer..lol i crack myself up

    • @alwaysbearded1
      @alwaysbearded1 3 роки тому +1

      The joke would be complete if he was named Oscar Meyer.

  • @warhawk4494
    @warhawk4494 3 роки тому +6

    My god my Dad hated these and the Seahorse. Lol
    He was in Nam from 61-64 as a "advisor" to the south Vietnamese and the Yards. He and his team used whatever choppers they could catch a ride on sometimes or were order to used. These and the Seahorse side doors were small and hard to get out with a pack in a hurry under fire and we're under armed. Lol he got shot down in a seahorse. It was the worst outta the three choppers he got shot down in. Because it crash in a river flip upside down and sunk.

    • @ebayerr
      @ebayerr 3 роки тому +4

      War Hawk : You should write a book about the stories he told you and dedicate it to him.

    • @craftpaint1644
      @craftpaint1644 3 роки тому +4

      I wonder if the copter is still there 🤔

    • @warhawk4494
      @warhawk4494 3 роки тому +2

      @@ebayerr I would like too some day. And I'll give it a shot. He didn't talk much about what he went through over there at all. Just a snippet here a story there. Never gave out unit numbers or anything. Lol but I'm gonna write down what I know.

    • @warhawk4494
      @warhawk4494 3 роки тому +2

      @@craftpaint1644 no because when this happen he and his team was part of a joint exercise were he and his team of SF guys were teaching marines how to fight in the jungle against the Cong and Nva, and after they had gotten outta the chopper,and set up a parameter after the rest of his team had landed in the choppers gained partial fire superiority over the enemy called in for reinforcements and all the arty and air support he could get and after all that a furious five hour battle and the enemy retreating they called in a skycrane to pull it out so they wouldn't leave anything for the enemy and to recover the pilot and co pilot. Who was a hero. When the as ambush was set off the pilot was killed out right,the co pilot wounded but kept control of the help and nearly brought her down upright but a burst of gun hit something that made the Seahorse nose in and roll over trapping and drowning the co pilot. (Yes after recovering the help they found out the co pilot was alive when it sunk) but my Dad credit that pilot for doing as good as he did.
      Now who my father didn't like was the navy medic onboard. It was my dad,his radio man and a few marines,a corp man and a stretcher case. A marine in the earlier mission had got hit in the spine and paralyzed front he waste down. My dad road with him and the others after help loading him on the chopper. Well when the chopper sunk everyone panic and scramble for the door,the corp man was the first one out screaming and hollaring he didn't want to drown. (There was a air pocket in the fuselage but was rapidly shrinking as the chopper sank.) My dad was the last one as he help the last marine out he paused because he forgot his M-14,as he turn he saw the spinal case and floating,,he grab him check to see if he had a pulse and hadn't swallow any water,blew a big lung full of in the guys mouth pinch his nose shut and cover the marines mouth,and grab his rifle and went out the hatch dragging the marine and rifle.as my dad went out the chopper the water was churned up,muddy,nearly zero visibility he couldn't figure out which way was up so he was starting to panic for a minute until he calm down and seen his bubbles going up so he stop swimming down. And followed bubbles up got the marine to shore,seen he was in friendly lines and called for help as bullets were whizzing above his head around him shutting the water cutting down grass's and river vegetation. His own medic grab the guy they drag him up to safety. Drained his M-14 cleared and got on the horn and call out "broken arrow". The marines came charging in to the rescue. Everyone we as pick up living and dead. The spinal job was sent home and actually recover but had the honorablly medically discharge. The corpman was drum out with a dishonorable discharge for abandoned his wounded and cowardice in the face of the enemy. My dad got a purple heart he got wounded and didn't real it and a DSC. Sorry got on roll there.

    • @suburban404
      @suburban404 3 роки тому +1

      @@warhawk4494 Great story. It would be worth looking through it to edit the typos. You are obviously proud of your father.

  • @kdrapertrucker
    @kdrapertrucker 3 роки тому +3

    There's some famous footage of an H-21 losing control of its tail rotor and summersalting into the runway. I think it was flight test footage.

    • @alwaysbearded1
      @alwaysbearded1 3 роки тому +1

      The older brother of one of my HS friends was in a lead helicopter and the pilot behind them took out the rear rotor. He fell to the jungle and was hit by part of the helicopter. His brother survived that and subsequently picking up a grenade but that injured him enough he was sent home.

  • @jamessenik5147
    @jamessenik5147 3 роки тому +2

    I like your videos on dark channel

  • @user-ex4si2md6r
    @user-ex4si2md6r 9 місяців тому

    Built a little 1/72d.scale plastic model kit of this cool helicopter and I think that it's cool looking 😎