Chace, if they go after you for the full bill, you gotta lawyer up and take them to court. Ask for a refund on the shipping, ask for the overtime pay, ask for Theron's gas money to pilot the thing home, hell, ask for the cost of your therapy bills! These are real damage that CH caused through breach of contract, they should pay for it! Edit: of course also make them pay for legal fees! Edit 2: I'm not a lawyer, this is not legal advice
@@drewgildemeister2284 the boss of this company got into a fight with this other dude at the Alberta truck show we were at and he started talking about how he was going to fuck this dude's little girl and we chased him out of there for saying that
They basically voided every single agreement that was made and then expected to be paid? They should be paying Edison Motors to make up for a complete disaster and disgrace.
As a trucker for over 20 years I absolutely hate freight brokers and the shady crap they try to get away with. I'd offer yall a bit of help but I'm a bit too far south.
@@PD-yd3frand after the Google reviews started coming in, CH had the audacity to get their people to combat it with 5 star reviews. One even said something about how good the company is and ended with "don't believe everything you hear". Like c'mon
Just wait until you're building trucks on a concrete floor instead of stone. You'll have nicer things soon enough... you're smart to do most of it as you go instead of borrowing even more money at this very early stage.
@@eviscerator_jd5536On the first video about this, I had one guy on this channel, try and tell me I was not fair to CH, I told him to talk to O/O's and consignees about 'how good this is'. I'm happy I just wrenched on trucks, when I was younger. Best wishes from Northern Manitoba.
Yeah, some kind of setup with tools, welders... Charging port for other EV vehicles if needed... Could even help in the future when they find some issue on their own truck.
The number of lies I have heard from brokers/dispatchers over the years is staggering. And it’s only getting worse. We had a company get into a bad wreck with our load, they moved it to a different trailer, in a total mess, and never said a word to anyone. That’s why we take pictures of everything we ship.
I love that idea of a Wrecker with a level 3-4 fast charger... Especially as electric vehicles become more and more common I think that'll become a necessity for most towing companies
@@Prestiged_peck I live in an area that has like 3 public chargers that are all like 45 minutes away from each other, but has had a massive amount of Electric vehicles being purchased
@@Prestiged_peckexactly! The tow truck doesn't carry 60L of fuel to fill you to the brim, they have enough to get you to a gas station. Why not the same for EV's? Heck, battery pack they load into the trunk for you to drive to the charger with, plug and go.
For the axle. Flat bed truck with removable shop built in a shipping container. So you take the “shop” off and use the truck as a hot shot parts runner when the shop isn’t needed.
What a terrible way to run a shipping company, but I suppose everyone is trying to get that comfy cushion with their overhead seeing as everything is spiking in price. They went about it the wrong way, for sure, but thankfully they didn’t ruin anything.
I had this idea where next generation charging might not be through cables. But sort of like how phone 'wireless' is, where it comes through the bottom of the EV. It might bring charge times way down sort of like how Xiaomi has done with their phones but on a bigger scale. In this case the rescue truck could even extend a plate underneath the car to charge it in almost no time
@@theemperorofmankind3739 There is always major losses in the form of heat when doing wireless charging (unless LK-99 proves to be true). And you're already late on this - being worked on. Currently direct wired connection is the best bet as it has the least losses. That being said, if tech changes, the extend-o-plate™ could work.
I hate to reply to my own post but I just had a shower thought a few minutes ago.... What if you had a charge truck and offered a service where you met people travelling long distance to help them charge at more convenient spots along their journey, kind of like a mobile bespoke charging station. The current distribution of charging stations can be spotty in a few places and it might take a while to change, meaning this could be a lucrative service.
On surface it's a good idea but practically it might not be viable (for a long time). So BEV sales are growing but the number of them on the road is rather small. And a wrecker might not be around the corner and if only a few of all wreckers can charge a car they will statistically have a very long way to travel when someone runs out of power. And what they only do would be to get to the stranded EV, stand around and wait for some time and then finally have the EV drive off to a charger. There will I guess be a lot more flatbed wreckers around than specially equipped for charging ones. So put the EV on a flatbed, drive and drop it off at the closest charger - it sorts itself out (if it's a slower charger they can charge up enough to get to a fast charger). In a BEV you ought to put in your destination and it calculates the estimated percentage of charge remaining of arrival and all charge stations in between. These are getting better and better with more factors (wind, temperature, elevations). It's not like the old days a gas car at best had a working fuel gauge and the driver only roughly knew how far the destination was and maybe unknown how many pump stations in between. So unless being an idiot it's probably way fewer people today being stranded in their EVs than those who ran out of gass way back (in ratio to number of drivers). Once BEV gets really plentiful then the wheel-lift wreckers/integrated ones might have a use if they can do V2V or if it's a diesel, a big generator. But not this big thing Edison has an e-axle for. So I don't think Edison should built into something to rescue BEVs that have gotten out of power, better with a service truck.
"Edison Motors: We built your truck basically in the bush so we're sure you can service it in the bush." Chase you and your team are legends in the making. Forgot to mention: I vote service truck. It makes the most sense for your production prototype to have adequately sized support as soon as possible.
I dig your idea of a service truck with a generator and welding setup. I don't work in logging or trucking, but knowing enough people in those industries, I know that stuff breaks down all the time, and it would be interesting to see the contrast of it to a traditional service truck.
Make sure you can tap the full output of the traction generator as 60Hz AC. Would let the truck pinch-hit as a generator when needed. Also, heard of a few ranchers who run all corded tools out in the field. They find a generator and extension cords less hassle than broken/dead battery operated tools.
Here in the states it’s called “exclusive use”. There’s dirt bags that will still try to fill the deck but it gets the point across to the good carriers. You pay for the whole deck, you get the whole deck. You pay for expedite you get it rickety tick.
Got a neighbor that got screwed on that. Paid for the whole trailer for exclusive use and expedite. They got there with another unit on it that was going to a nearby place. He knew who it was and found out they also paid for the whole trailer and expedite. If they would of communicated and said they'd shave a bit off the cost with a nearby load, they'd go for it. But lying, they're going after them. But it'll probably just be another carrier that drops off the face of the earth.
My prediction is in 2 years time your going to be reciving loads of these in a huge multimillion dollar factory. Keep grinding through the hardtimes as your so close to production! Im so excited to see what you are doing with these old trucks and builing your own industrial work trucks. Not a customer but will definitely be an investor if there is ever an opportunity!
Forklifts are amazing. Just get an old 4t lift, we had one on our farm, cost us $1500 and was used almost daily. We put motors in and out of tractors and trucks. You don’t have to get a flash one, just one that works.
For their use, a telehandler. But ones with good hydraulics are big bucks and they need to have tight hydraulics when working around people and really heavy pieces. I was thinking along the same lines though; would've been faster and safer by just leaving the transport over near the road. If I had the money, I would just rent them one.
NGL, that looks like a tight sketchy spot-- and they said so. Props to the driver to know when he was in over his head and turn over his steering wheel. That's uncommon--ego usually gets in the way. "No, yup, you got a class-1 (AZ), it'd yer yard? Here's the keys, putter in!"
@@memyself7419 You the Driver are responsible for the truck and what the truck does, if you let me hop in the cab to back it into a hole and I tear a hole in the trailer and knock a hole in the wall, I hop out of the cab and giggle maniacally as I walk away. Mr. Truckdriver and their company are responsible for any damages. NEVER let anyone else drive your truck, every Driver should know and understand this
@PD-yd3fr You can be like that with your truck. In my career I've both accepted help getting into/out of tricky places, AND offered... either to just spot, give advice or put it in/pull it out. Pobody's Nerfect, and some unique spots, you just trust someone that does it regularly vs once in a blue moon...
A rescue vehicle for the extra axle! That would so cool! The way all things a going we need more power rolling on the roads as the chargers a still few and far between in Canada… haha awesome builds guys! Love this shit!
I've done load and unload in farmland, don't get a forklift unless you get ramps and a concrete pad. Get a telehandler with a 48ft reach. You can load and unload a whole trailer anywhere. Smaller telehandlers just mean you're going to be dragging stuff out if it's in the back.
i would suggest they pay you for the losses. if not. just have everyone leave bad reviews and crush them. they don't care . so neither should you for them bro!
They already have. I myself just left a bad review - i don't usually do review bombings, but the fact that they still want to be paid after their scam was exposed pushed me over the edge!
@@stauker.1960 It would, but is it worth the time and cost. quantifying the losses will be hard. But they shouldn't have to pay jack shit when you asked for your load to be direct and not brokered.
I did that when I heard the news and the reviews were deleted by google. Also the shipping company was using either foreigners and their own employees to leave 5 star reviews
I think its very important to notice EVERYONE! how pro the crew stayed when not only unloading but backing the damn TRUCK IN FOR THAT FELLA... Regardless of his ethnics they stayed nice and pro and focused! that truly Canadian boys damn fine job!
Hey, I'm a tow operator and would love to be able to provide real world testing for your medium duty wrecker idea. The more you talked about it the bigger my smile got. You've got a huge fan of the idea here in Oklahoma, USA.
Service truck. Absolutely the service truck. Far more useful than a tow truck, considering what you have in the yard. Plus, you have repeatedly stated this is a learning process. The service truck is needed, far more than a dedicated tow truck
Make one of those medium duty service trucks, with the service crane, welder, air compressor and such on it. Heck, even add one of your light towers on it! I'm sure there are companies doing service work that do tons of stop-and-go, and lots of idle time. Perfect for an electric truck.
I suspect a lawyer would tell you to pay the bill then sue for breach of contract plus legal fees and damages, (overtime etc.) The court system doesn’t look kindly on nonpayment of bills, even if you are right.
The third axle, I would say, set it up for whatever type of truck will be the Handi S for Anderson motors usage. They also can show off its function. It just looks good for you to be using your own product and putting them through their paces.
The amount of transparency from your company is amazing to see! I appreciate it so much! That is one thing that makes me so interested in your pickup conversions.
From what I see it seems A lot of people with their own authority seem to rely soley on broker boards and then wonder why they go belly up. Seems to me broker baords should be a tool to fill in the gaps. I could be wrong here.
I just thought of something dumb. Since your axles don't have drive shafts, why couldn't you make a drop axle that also acts as a drive axle. Like if your on the highway going to your logging destination you could have that rear drive axle up to save on energy, and then when you need that extra axle you have it. Would that be possible? Or would that just not save enough?
thats a neat idea! no reason they couldn't. though probably wouldn't bother for the loging/off road duty, a highway version could be setup to work like that.
Don't think the energy savings would be worth the cost of the extra axle. I DO think having a driving drop axle would help a lot on poor roads when fully loaded.
You guys in Canada are way too nice when you're mad, I'm from the USA and if a trucking company did this to me I'd be at their office in the morning thinking that if they're going to screw me around like this, they must want to see me in person
@@brianb-p6586Was just going to say this. I'm currently about 1 hour from Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu and go there regularly. When dealing with the French, there always seems to be issues. I run for Loblaw in Quebec and very often have issues because I'm not French. Some take it personally that I don't speak their language.
You don’t need a forklift chace, you need a rotating telehandler. Look into used magni 5.21-5.25 rth. 11000lbs of lifting capacity, and enough extension to reach fully into a 53ft semi trailer. Also they have a whole smorgasbord of attachments that can do anything you want. Like pivoting forks. Park that rig behind a trailer and unload every piece off the trailer and to anywhere within 67 feet of the magni 5.25rth without moving the magni from where you parked it. Also it can be a crane.
A family member is in real-estate, she was saying the other week how incredibly easy it is to look good...answer the phone when people call, post the correct photos to the correct address, show up on time to a viewing....just the basics of doing the job you advertised as being able to do. But of an aside... I'm glad you got your part.
What you need is a small to medium telehandler, they work great in tight spots and y'uns coulda had that unloaded in 30 minutes. Some even have the winch system behind the main lift so you can use straps and whatnot.
Chase In my Army Career, I had two of the most incredible pieces of equipment. I was a Heavy Construction Equipment Repairer (62B) (first of 4 MOS’s I have) The first one was a “Contact Truck” the old Dodge pickup with the toolbox (service body) mounted. On board I had a huge amount of stuff, beginning with the tool chest. Early on it was all SAE but we got metrics eventually… all the tools didn’t fit in the available spaces. It just had the look of an old Craftsman 7 or 9 drawer box. Then there was the 4 cylinder Air cooled Wisconsin powered Welder / Generator, with body outlets inside and out, (4 corners outside single plugs and 3 outlets in the back 120vAC) the old Welder… that was a great beast Lincoln had DC and AC, and possibly 500 Amps on one version (it could drain the entire gasoline tank in under 6 hours (24 gallons and was the trucks fuel tank) I did it ! Others were 250 Amps or 300.??? Also had A 220 volt 50 amp 30 amp outlets and a quad 120 outlet. In the back was a 220 volt Air compressor but 2 remote tanks the size of semi truck air tanks. Sucks for using a 1” impact but ran at 150 psi. Then there was 4 remote flood lights round based and held in place by wing nuts and washers. The heavy rubber extension cords were all black. The rear drop down tailgate featured a good size 6” mechanic Vice and twin bi-fold doors for security and not so much weather protection. Then there’s the HSTRU Trailer. It would make almost any hydraulic or Air hose that you could use for construction equipment, all the fittings barbs and nuts for assembling them with the gear reduction assembly machine, plus bending and flaring all sorts of hard metal or soft metal lines, including a high flow pump and filter system to clean out hydraulic fluid systems. Save a pump or two and hours of R&R plus down time for equipment repairs and maintenance, simply by installing the lines to clean out the pipes lines, motors, etc of your Fluid dynamics, 5 micron and 20 microns filters. Thousands of gallons of oil could be saved by basically putting a artificial Kidney in the system temporarily. Top off, take the before and after oil samples and send it! Could certainly be used for the basis of anti freeze / Coolant scrubber for the batteries too! Glad it’s safe and you have a great chance to make it. I know you’re all stressed out but please don’t forget to call a safety stop to get everybody a decompress time. They will be much more effective than if you don’t. And explain it that all work and no play can kill a team!!!
Sounds like you got a heck of a partner in flowdraulic. When production ramps up and you get a facility built, you might see if they'd go partway in on it with you. That way they can do all the same testing with their people in house
Non french Canadian and you hired a french Canadian company. Bound to happen. My sales territory includes Quebec and I stay far away unless i have too because they always treat us like shit.
I would like to see a edison motors service truck. That way if a edison truck breaks down within reason from your HQ you can go out and have all the tools needed to fix it or charge it.
To be fair, if you've got a weird, complicated approach that's way out of the ordinary, expecting the poor long-haul driver to tackle that in quick time is just mean. I've seen a few grizzled veterans over the years who'll make their rigs dance on the tip of a pin, but your average driver probably hates this sort of situation with a passion. If at all possible, getting one of your own to do the deed just makes sense - just like how they have specialist Harbor Pilots whose entire (very well paid) job is to hop on to giant cruise liners, tankers, even WARSHIPS and bring them safely those last few miles to the dock in difficult or dangerous ports all over the world!
I work in the live event industry (concerts, lighting, sound, that kind of stuff) and we often use a diesel generator for 3 phase power, and bring all of our equipment in a box truck. I think it would be super awesome if you could create a box truck that has the 3 phase output available to use for those purposes! I know our company would want one, or three!!!
The obvious thing to do with the extra axle is definitely a service truck with an onboard charger - preferably one with a wrecker underreach rated to tow your early production trucks, if you've got the axle weight headroom. Build it on a regular on-highway medium duty cab. You'll need one for the early production trucks, and it'll double up as a marketing tool for conversions and other applications - pipeliners, towing, heavy equipment service, that sort of thing.
I think once again you guys are ahead of the curve. As more electric vehicles come on in both commercial and private transport the need for a portable charging due to weather or road closures or other unforseen things will be a real thing. 🎉❤
I am so sorry that the current situation of bad trucking (both drivers and brokers) hit you too. I had to move a 1982 Datsun 280zx rolling chassis from cali to the midwest here recently and it was an absolute fucking nightmare. I (unfortunately) hired a broker named Ace Auto Freight to do it. First, they bait-and-switched me on the price (doubled it from $600 to $1200) the day before pickup. Then, the first driver they sent out didn't show up on the first day. The second day, they show up but don't have a winch to put it on the trailer! The next driver they sent out picked it up and headed my way. The night before they arrived, they said "Have your forklift or crane ready to pick the car up off my trailer tomorrow"... Turns out, they loaded two more disabled vehicles onto the trailer behind my car and they took out some suspension bolts to drop the back of the car onto its bump stops to make room to clear the bumper of the truck behind my car, and the picture they sent scared the piss out of me because it looked like they'd dropped the nose of that truck onto the tail of my car. In order to get my car off, I had to hire a damned flatbed tow truck to pull my car off the FRONT END OF THEIR TRAILER!.. At my own expense! And then at the end of the day, the driver wanted $50 more than agreed upon at delivery! It was absolutely fucking bonkers...
I would kill to have an edison F350 for everyday...i also move my RV every 3 months, occasionally across the whole US. Me & the wife live in it full-time, she's a travel nurse, and i do whatever on the side (usually heavy industry stuff; i always have my tools & everything with me in the bed).
You don't need an expensive forklift attachment! You can use a set of forks that hang over the bucket, and your only addition is to weld on two to three hooks on the rear top of the bucket. It'll be forks on a budget!
As someone in the welding and service truck work for 20 years I soooooo want to see yall do a service rig. And while the EV rescue truck would be kind of a funky little concept the hybrid electric service truck actually has real-world potential because it would be so nice to have a welding rig on site sitting silent while your working without the welder engine running the air compressor engine sitting there idling, truck engine idling for your crane, all of it in silent operation and you could even have a level 3 fast charger cable in a side box so it could charge an electric vehicle as a service call
The stuff is there now, just be greatful nothing is damaged. Concentrate on getting the gear fitted, and then take CH to the cleaners over the winter. Everything sorts itself out in the end, if it's not sorted, you are not at the end.! I'm glad to see that even the kids were involved in the truck-hunting expedition.!
I am excited to see what you do with the single axle. I have a 95 class 6 expeditor truck with no body I would love to get ideas for.. Love all this, and I am not even a trucker, or logger.
Seeings that I’m a trucker ready to retire I would like to see a nice fully electrified motor home with diesel generator and solar panels atop that extra axle. Wouldn’t mind cruising North America in one of those.
As for the extra axle I think you should order one more and convert an old 895 Versatile (Canadian built) tractor to diesel electric and sell it to a farmer in Alberta or Saskatchewan. Some big tractors were built with truck engines ,truck transmission, and truck rear ends should be a fairly easy swap to diesel electric
For the extra axle you should do the full service truck. If a large company is sold on the idea of custom log trucks at fleet scale they will be looking for a service truck set up to take care of those trucks. And who better to buy a service truck from than those who are building the trucks.
Kudos for speaking out publicly. We’ve been burned by providers many times and I’ve had conversations like this, but never had the courage to post and share so that is small business owners are treated better!
Electric service/tow truck is a great idea, you could have helped out that ev kenworth a couple of months ago, keep up the great work guys,,second gear pinner all way getting her done 👍👍👍✌️🤟🤟
I think with the spare E axle. A flat deck crane truck to help out with your company would be a smart move. Put a couple tool boxes on it . A flat deck and a hiab. Doesn't need to be a new hiab as I know you like old iron. Just my two cents as a transport mechanic. Love what you guys do! Been following for a long time
I went to their Google page just now, and sometime between you taking a screenshot of their Google page and me commenting, they seem to have flagged a bunch of the recent reviews, and they've gotten nearly 20 removed. There are now less total reviews and they've got a higher rating.
Get a pallet jack and a fork lift. I was doing shopping and receiving as a part of my job, and I could move so much material by myself with a little rink a dink forklift and a pallet jack. I unloaded 9 pallets in 21 minutes with the driver moving them to the back with a pallet jack. Heavy pallets full of hubs and bearings and such. It’s the right tool for the job bar none.
I would recommend a Princeton or Moffat three-wheeled forklift. They have a great capacity for their size and maneuverability. Make a kitted out service truck
@@WatanabeNoTsuna. That was my point. Utilize the service body they got when they purchased their shop toolboxes. Then use the e-axle for the drivetrain.
That's a lot of axle for something small. But yes, some sort of maxed out service truck would be cool. Even running a hydraulic pump off an electric motor instead of a PTO would solve a bunch of off road adventuring catastrophes. I've envisioned my old Tandem Tandem C500 boom truck converted.
Every company has to start somewhere, and it make a hell of a lot more sense to keep facilities costs down in the beginning. Maybe you guys could dig out a pit type loading dock with that backhoe for the time being.
Glad to see that the gear finally arrived. Watching you guys unload, I can honestly say that the curtain-side rigs that get run down here in Australia are ten times easier to load and unload.
Try and find yourself a telehandler. A decent sized (like an 8000lb 50ft boom) telehandler with fork attachment can unload a 40ft trailer in short order without needing a loading ramp
Thank you for covering this headache that is way too much of the trucking industry. These scammer companies should go belly up and out to dry. Screw em
You don't need a forklift. You need forks for your backhoe. And yes it is a quick detach... You have a hinged bucket. Open the bucket and make forks that fit around the lip of the bucket. Then you just pinch to lock.... You can't push down but you can lift.
Maybe make a super versatile rollback type deal, like between the bed and cab ad in a small-ish service box with the fash charger. Kind of a attempt to fix it and if you can't we can also tow it
I like the service truck idea, i’m thinking Edison motors chassis with 315 super singles all way around. And have everything runoff electric, welder, compressor, & Electric over hydraulic crane
You guys are totally awsome and I can honestly see you building tons of trucks best idea for big trucks in a long time. But that extra axle you could retrofit a motor home and I think they would sell like hot cakes
Honestly, the most logical thing to do with the extra axle is: The vehicle you use to do service call-outs for the trial vehicles you'll be building and then selling. Might as well get on-hand experience on a single-wheel prototype and get lessons-learned there too, eh?
as for your loading dock, what about the mobile ramps they use on the fish warfs for loading fish from the boat to the truck to go to processing plant. used forklift and ramp, and you can drag that ramp out to the road to unload if needed
I'm glad that you aren't backing down on this and making them take responsibility. When you make it clear what you want and pay top dollar then the service provider should *at least* treat your money with some respect.
Chace, if they go after you for the full bill, you gotta lawyer up and take them to court. Ask for a refund on the shipping, ask for the overtime pay, ask for Theron's gas money to pilot the thing home, hell, ask for the cost of your therapy bills! These are real damage that CH caused through breach of contract, they should pay for it! Edit: of course also make them pay for legal fees! Edit 2: I'm not a lawyer, this is not legal advice
100% agree. they wanna fight, go for blood. there incompetence goes beyond belief
@@WilDBilL6969what happened?
@@WilDBilL6969please elaborate
@@drewgildemeister2284 the boss of this company got into a fight with this other dude at the Alberta truck show we were at and he started talking about how he was going to fuck this dude's little girl and we chased him out of there for saying that
@@Undefined14 not only that he started going off at people talking about their wives and shit this dude is a total piece of s***
Stress level so high, they're about to stop saying "Sorrey".
Geneva checklist?
Now THAT is terrifying
@@BigBeavrSlayerMontreal Convention
@@BigBeavrSlayerthat's when Canadians start saying "You'll be sorry" 😂
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They basically voided every single agreement that was made and then expected to be paid? They should be paying Edison Motors to make up for a complete disaster and disgrace.
As a trucker for over 20 years I absolutely hate freight brokers and the shady crap they try to get away with. I'd offer yall a bit of help but I'm a bit too far south.
The more the merrier, leave a review, read the others, it is brutal. I'd feel bad for them but they chose to rip our friends here off
@@PD-yd3frand after the Google reviews started coming in, CH had the audacity to get their people to combat it with 5 star reviews. One even said something about how good the company is and ended with "don't believe everything you hear". Like c'mon
Reviews are deleted. Go back and rate them 1 star without writing anything.
Just wait until you're building trucks on a concrete floor instead of stone. You'll have nicer things soon enough... you're smart to do most of it as you go instead of borrowing even more money at this very early stage.
@@eviscerator_jd5536On the first video about this, I had one guy on this channel, try and tell me I was not fair to CH, I told him to talk to O/O's and consignees about 'how good this is'.
I'm happy I just wrenched on trucks, when I was younger.
Best wishes from Northern Manitoba.
The idea of a "rescue rig" that could be a power plant for electric cars that run out of power would be really sweet.
Yeah, some kind of setup with tools, welders... Charging port for other EV vehicles if needed...
Could even help in the future when they find some issue on their own truck.
Not exactly the same, but I've seen videos of Tesla drivers with a little generator in the trunk.
There have been rescue rigs since there have been cars. They are called tow trucks. Tow the car to a level 3 charger is they way.
Or just give up on the all electric crap
@@midwestreview6382 Why are you even watching this channel if you're anti electric vehicles ?
The number of lies I have heard from brokers/dispatchers over the years is staggering. And it’s only getting worse.
We had a company get into a bad wreck with our load, they moved it to a different trailer, in a total mess, and never said a word to anyone.
That’s why we take pictures of everything we ship.
We had a truck driver attempt a dump and run with some damaged product at work today.
I love that idea of a Wrecker with a level 3-4 fast charger... Especially as electric vehicles become more and more common I think that'll become a necessity for most towing companies
Just needs to be able to add enough range in 10-20 minutes to get you to a full bore charger.
@@Prestiged_peck I live in an area that has like 3 public chargers that are all like 45 minutes away from each other, but has had a massive amount of Electric vehicles being purchased
@@Prestiged_peckexactly! The tow truck doesn't carry 60L of fuel to fill you to the brim, they have enough to get you to a gas station. Why not the same for EV's? Heck, battery pack they load into the trunk for you to drive to the charger with, plug and go.
A rollback would be would actually be the ideal application for retrieval and charging dead ev’s.
or maybe even a roll off platform ? for better ground clearence@@stevenbrown4315
For the axle.
Flat bed truck with removable shop built in a shipping container. So you take the “shop” off and use the truck as a hot shot parts runner when the shop isn’t needed.
What a terrible way to run a shipping company, but I suppose everyone is trying to get that comfy cushion with their overhead seeing as everything is spiking in price. They went about it the wrong way, for sure, but thankfully they didn’t ruin anything.
They destroyed their reputation with a LOT of people. This will cost Collosal Hosers Express a lot more than whatever Edison takes them for.
A fast charge truck to rescue stranded EV's is a brilliant idea, it's probably the future of auto rescue, and you could be in on the ground floor.
I had this idea where next generation charging might not be through cables. But sort of like how phone 'wireless' is, where it comes through the bottom of the EV.
It might bring charge times way down sort of like how Xiaomi has done with their phones but on a bigger scale.
In this case the rescue truck could even extend a plate underneath the car to charge it in almost no time
@@theemperorofmankind3739 There is always major losses in the form of heat when doing wireless charging (unless LK-99 proves to be true). And you're already late on this - being worked on. Currently direct wired connection is the best bet as it has the least losses. That being said, if tech changes, the extend-o-plate™ could work.
@@kstricl Oh yeah 100% agree
I hate to reply to my own post but I just had a shower thought a few minutes ago.... What if you had a charge truck and offered a service where you met people travelling long distance to help them charge at more convenient spots along their journey, kind of like a mobile bespoke charging station. The current distribution of charging stations can be spotty in a few places and it might take a while to change, meaning this could be a lucrative service.
On surface it's a good idea but practically it might not be viable (for a long time). So BEV sales are growing but the number of them on the road is rather small. And a wrecker might not be around the corner and if only a few of all wreckers can charge a car they will statistically have a very long way to travel when someone runs out of power. And what they only do would be to get to the stranded EV, stand around and wait for some time and then finally have the EV drive off to a charger.
There will I guess be a lot more flatbed wreckers around than specially equipped for charging ones. So put the EV on a flatbed, drive and drop it off at the closest charger - it sorts itself out (if it's a slower charger they can charge up enough to get to a fast charger).
In a BEV you ought to put in your destination and it calculates the estimated percentage of charge remaining of arrival and all charge stations in between. These are getting better and better with more factors (wind, temperature, elevations). It's not like the old days a gas car at best had a working fuel gauge and the driver only roughly knew how far the destination was and maybe unknown how many pump stations in between. So unless being an idiot it's probably way fewer people today being stranded in their EVs than those who ran out of gass way back (in ratio to number of drivers).
Once BEV gets really plentiful then the wheel-lift wreckers/integrated ones might have a use if they can do V2V or if it's a diesel, a big generator. But not this big thing Edison has an e-axle for.
So I don't think Edison should built into something to rescue BEVs that have gotten out of power, better with a service truck.
"Edison Motors: We built your truck basically in the bush so we're sure you can service it in the bush." Chase you and your team are legends in the making.
Forgot to mention: I vote service truck. It makes the most sense for your production prototype to have adequately sized support as soon as possible.
I dig your idea of a service truck with a generator and welding setup. I don't work in logging or trucking, but knowing enough people in those industries, I know that stuff breaks down all the time, and it would be interesting to see the contrast of it to a traditional service truck.
A 4500-5500 service truck with edison's setup on it would be awesome
Make sure you can tap the full output of the traction generator as 60Hz AC. Would let the truck pinch-hit as a generator when needed. Also, heard of a few ranchers who run all corded tools out in the field. They find a generator and extension cords less hassle than broken/dead battery operated tools.
Well that's more things than just the headache rack. looks like everything they had for the inital testing too
Yes, it was literally all of the “electric vehicle” parts of our electric truck.
Here in the states it’s called “exclusive use”. There’s dirt bags that will still try to fill the deck but it gets the point across to the good carriers. You pay for the whole deck, you get the whole deck. You pay for expedite you get it rickety tick.
I love that expression "Rickity tick"
Got a neighbor that got screwed on that. Paid for the whole trailer for exclusive use and expedite. They got there with another unit on it that was going to a nearby place. He knew who it was and found out they also paid for the whole trailer and expedite. If they would of communicated and said they'd shave a bit off the cost with a nearby load, they'd go for it. But lying, they're going after them. But it'll probably just be another carrier that drops off the face of the earth.
My prediction is in 2 years time your going to be reciving loads of these in a huge multimillion dollar factory. Keep grinding through the hardtimes as your so close to production! Im so excited to see what you are doing with these old trucks and builing your own industrial work trucks. Not a customer but will definitely be an investor if there is ever an opportunity!
Forklifts are amazing. Just get an old 4t lift, we had one on our farm, cost us $1500 and was used almost daily. We put motors in and out of tractors and trucks. You don’t have to get a flash one, just one that works.
I have a smaller forklift for my farm, saved us so much work and time.
@@arthurr8670 I have since left the farm and just have a one acre block with a shed and ended buying a 1.5t battery forklift, every shed needs one.
For their use, a telehandler. But ones with good hydraulics are big bucks and they need to have tight hydraulics when working around people and really heavy pieces. I was thinking along the same lines though; would've been faster and safer by just leaving the transport over near the road.
If I had the money, I would just rent them one.
@@kstricl Tele handlers have terrible visibility, when working around people forklift every time.
@@kallumblake5482 Yep, small to medium ones in metal mines, handy as all get out, but, horrendous operator visibility, at times.
Of course chase backed it in 😂 love it!
NGL, that looks like a tight sketchy spot-- and they said so.
Props to the driver to know when he was in over his head and turn over his steering wheel. That's uncommon--ego usually gets in the way. "No, yup, you got a class-1 (AZ), it'd yer yard? Here's the keys, putter in!"
@@SPD_driver You NEVER let someone back you rig anywhere. if the driver does not have the skills to do it, they should not be driving
@@PD-yd3frLOL. Pride cometh before fall.
@@memyself7419 You the Driver are responsible for the truck and what the truck does, if you let me hop in the cab to back it into a hole and I tear a hole in the trailer and knock a hole in the wall, I hop out of the cab and giggle maniacally as I walk away. Mr. Truckdriver and their company are responsible for any damages.
NEVER let anyone else drive your truck, every Driver should know and understand this
@PD-yd3fr You can be like that with your truck. In my career I've both accepted help getting into/out of tricky places, AND offered... either to just spot, give advice or put it in/pull it out.
Pobody's Nerfect, and some unique spots, you just trust someone that does it regularly vs once in a blue moon...
AWESOME! GLAD YOU BLASTED THESE CH TRANSPORT JERKS!
I never thought I’d ever be rooting for an electric truck manufacturer, but damn, I’m rooting for you guys.
A rescue vehicle for the extra axle! That would so cool! The way all things a going we need more power rolling on the roads as the chargers a still few and far between in Canada… haha awesome builds guys! Love this shit!
No, use the extra axle to build a forklift! 😂
I've done load and unload in farmland, don't get a forklift unless you get ramps and a concrete pad. Get a telehandler with a 48ft reach. You can load and unload a whole trailer anywhere. Smaller telehandlers just mean you're going to be dragging stuff out if it's in the back.
i would suggest they pay you for the losses. if not. just have everyone leave bad reviews and crush them. they don't care . so neither should you for them bro!
They already have. I myself just left a bad review - i don't usually do review bombings, but the fact that they still want to be paid after their scam was exposed pushed me over the edge!
i feel like litigation is a reasonable option in this scenario
@@stauker.1960 It would, but is it worth the time and cost.
quantifying the losses will be hard. But they shouldn't have to pay jack shit when you asked for your load to be direct and not brokered.
I did that when I heard the news and the reviews were deleted by google. Also the shipping company was using either foreigners and their own employees to leave 5 star reviews
I think its very important to notice EVERYONE! how pro the crew stayed when not only unloading but backing the damn TRUCK IN FOR THAT FELLA...
Regardless of his ethnics they stayed nice and pro and focused! that truly Canadian boys damn fine job!
Hey, I'm a tow operator and would love to be able to provide real world testing for your medium duty wrecker idea. The more you talked about it the bigger my smile got. You've got a huge fan of the idea here in Oklahoma, USA.
Put in an order 😉
Service truck. Absolutely the service truck. Far more useful than a tow truck, considering what you have in the yard.
Plus, you have repeatedly stated this is a learning process. The service truck is needed, far more than a dedicated tow truck
Make one of those medium duty service trucks, with the service crane, welder, air compressor and such on it. Heck, even add one of your light towers on it!
I'm sure there are companies doing service work that do tons of stop-and-go, and lots of idle time. Perfect for an electric truck.
Chace is sure good at speaking his mind and I love it.
I suspect a lawyer would tell you to pay the bill then sue for breach of contract plus legal fees and damages, (overtime etc.) The court system doesn’t look kindly on nonpayment of bills, even if you are right.
I would put the money in escrow, if you pay the full amount will struggle forever getting it back.
A crew working together doing things with an absolute intention of sucess. What an environment to work in!
The third axle, I would say, set it up for whatever type of truck will be the Handi S for Anderson motors usage. They also can show off its function. It just looks good for you to be using your own product and putting them through their paces.
The amount of transparency from your company is amazing to see! I appreciate it so much! That is one thing that makes me so interested in your pickup conversions.
As a truck driver in the States this is why I only deal with the shippers and receivers directly no brokers no middle man
From what I see it seems A lot of people with their own authority seem to rely soley on broker boards and then wonder why they go belly up.
Seems to me broker baords should be a tool to fill in the gaps. I could be wrong here.
I just thought of something dumb. Since your axles don't have drive shafts, why couldn't you make a drop axle that also acts as a drive axle. Like if your on the highway going to your logging destination you could have that rear drive axle up to save on energy, and then when you need that extra axle you have it. Would that be possible? Or would that just not save enough?
All they would need is a air ride on that axle , and a lift package...and of course some sort of electric lock out for that axle. Easy peasy
thats a neat idea! no reason they couldn't.
though probably wouldn't bother for the loging/off road duty, a highway version could be setup to work like that.
I think the extra drag on the regen would cancel out the charge you get
@ARockRaider would be especially nice on trailers, every axle you can lift while empty means less rolling resistance, which means greater range.
Don't think the energy savings would be worth the cost of the extra axle. I DO think having a driving drop axle would help a lot on poor roads when fully loaded.
You guys in Canada are way too nice when you're mad, I'm from the USA and if a trucking company did this to me I'd be at their office in the morning thinking that if they're going to screw me around like this, they must want to see me in person
@@brianb-p6586Was just going to say this. I'm currently about 1 hour from Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu and go there regularly. When dealing with the French, there always seems to be issues. I run for Loblaw in Quebec and very often have issues because I'm not French. Some take it personally that I don't speak their language.
The trucking company is a 5 day drive away.
This company has been noted and will not be used by our company. Hope it works out eventually.
I already knew it arrived safe and still felt anxious watching it unload...
i am impressed how well you kept your temper
This guy got chased out of an Alberta truck show talking about people's wives talking about people's kids we're actively looking for this f******
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You don’t need a forklift chace, you need a rotating telehandler. Look into used magni 5.21-5.25 rth. 11000lbs of lifting capacity, and enough extension to reach fully into a 53ft semi trailer. Also they have a whole smorgasbord of attachments that can do anything you want. Like pivoting forks. Park that rig behind a trailer and unload every piece off the trailer and to anywhere within 67 feet of the magni 5.25rth without moving the magni from where you parked it. Also it can be a crane.
A family member is in real-estate, she was saying the other week how incredibly easy it is to look good...answer the phone when people call, post the correct photos to the correct address, show up on time to a viewing....just the basics of doing the job you advertised as being able to do.
But of an aside... I'm glad you got your part.
What you need is a small to medium telehandler, they work great in tight spots and y'uns coulda had that unloaded in 30 minutes. Some even have the winch system behind the main lift so you can use straps and whatnot.
So glad you made this vido. See you all in merritt some time soon.😎😎🚛🚛🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍
Chase
In my Army Career, I had two of the most incredible pieces of equipment.
I was a Heavy Construction Equipment Repairer (62B) (first of 4 MOS’s I have)
The first one was a “Contact Truck” the old Dodge pickup with the toolbox (service body) mounted.
On board I had a huge amount of stuff, beginning with the tool chest. Early on it was all SAE but we got metrics eventually… all the tools didn’t fit in the available spaces. It just had the look of an old Craftsman 7 or 9 drawer box.
Then there was the 4 cylinder Air cooled Wisconsin powered Welder / Generator, with body outlets inside and out, (4 corners outside single plugs and 3 outlets in the back 120vAC) the old Welder… that was a great beast Lincoln had DC and AC, and possibly 500 Amps on one version (it could drain the entire gasoline tank in under 6 hours (24 gallons and was the trucks fuel tank) I did it ! Others were 250 Amps or 300.??? Also had A 220 volt 50 amp 30 amp outlets and a quad 120 outlet. In the back was a 220 volt Air compressor but 2 remote tanks the size of semi truck air tanks. Sucks for using a 1” impact but ran at 150 psi.
Then there was 4 remote flood lights round based and held in place by wing nuts and washers. The heavy rubber extension cords were all black.
The rear drop down tailgate featured a good size 6” mechanic Vice and twin bi-fold doors for security and not so much weather protection.
Then there’s the HSTRU Trailer. It would make almost any hydraulic or Air hose that you could use for construction equipment, all the fittings barbs and nuts for assembling them with the gear reduction assembly machine, plus bending and flaring all sorts of hard metal or soft metal lines, including a high flow pump and filter system to clean out hydraulic fluid systems. Save a pump or two and hours of R&R plus down time for equipment repairs and maintenance, simply by installing the lines to clean out the pipes lines, motors, etc of your Fluid dynamics, 5 micron and 20 microns filters.
Thousands of gallons of oil could be saved by basically putting a artificial Kidney in the system temporarily. Top off, take the before and after oil samples and send it!
Could certainly be used for the basis of anti freeze / Coolant scrubber for the batteries too!
Glad it’s safe and you have a great chance to make it.
I know you’re all stressed out but please don’t forget to call a safety stop to get everybody a decompress time. They will be much more effective than if you don’t. And explain it that all work and no play can kill a team!!!
I wish this was further up the thread for chase to see it.
How cool would it be to see the Edison Motors rescue truck saving dead EVs. That’s one hell of a promotion idea imo
Sounds like you got a heck of a partner in flowdraulic. When production ramps up and you get a facility built, you might see if they'd go partway in on it with you. That way they can do all the same testing with their people in house
Non french Canadian and you hired a french Canadian company. Bound to happen. My sales territory includes Quebec and I stay far away unless i have too because they always treat us like shit.
as a forklift op working in freight LTL here in our great nations capital I just have to say you got very lucky they handled your stuff right
You should make a service truck with that axel. That would be so badass and I think a lot of people would be interested in an electric service truck
I would like to see a edison motors service truck. That way if a edison truck breaks down within reason from your HQ you can go out and have all the tools needed to fix it or charge it.
I love that you ended up just backing the truck yourself. If you want something done right, do it yourself.
To be fair, if you've got a weird, complicated approach that's way out of the ordinary, expecting the poor long-haul driver to tackle that in quick time is just mean. I've seen a few grizzled veterans over the years who'll make their rigs dance on the tip of a pin, but your average driver probably hates this sort of situation with a passion.
If at all possible, getting one of your own to do the deed just makes sense - just like how they have specialist Harbor Pilots whose entire (very well paid) job is to hop on to giant cruise liners, tankers, even WARSHIPS and bring them safely those last few miles to the dock in difficult or dangerous ports all over the world!
I work in the live event industry (concerts, lighting, sound, that kind of stuff) and we often use a diesel generator for 3 phase power, and bring all of our equipment in a box truck. I think it would be super awesome if you could create a box truck that has the 3 phase output available to use for those purposes! I know our company would want one, or three!!!
The obvious thing to do with the extra axle is definitely a service truck with an onboard charger - preferably one with a wrecker underreach rated to tow your early production trucks, if you've got the axle weight headroom. Build it on a regular on-highway medium duty cab.
You'll need one for the early production trucks, and it'll double up as a marketing tool for conversions and other applications - pipeliners, towing, heavy equipment service, that sort of thing.
I think once again you guys are ahead of the curve. As more electric vehicles come on in both commercial and private transport the need for a portable charging due to weather or road closures or other unforseen things will be a real thing. 🎉❤
I am so sorry that the current situation of bad trucking (both drivers and brokers) hit you too. I had to move a 1982 Datsun 280zx rolling chassis from cali to the midwest here recently and it was an absolute fucking nightmare. I (unfortunately) hired a broker named Ace Auto Freight to do it. First, they bait-and-switched me on the price (doubled it from $600 to $1200) the day before pickup. Then, the first driver they sent out didn't show up on the first day. The second day, they show up but don't have a winch to put it on the trailer! The next driver they sent out picked it up and headed my way. The night before they arrived, they said "Have your forklift or crane ready to pick the car up off my trailer tomorrow"... Turns out, they loaded two more disabled vehicles onto the trailer behind my car and they took out some suspension bolts to drop the back of the car onto its bump stops to make room to clear the bumper of the truck behind my car, and the picture they sent scared the piss out of me because it looked like they'd dropped the nose of that truck onto the tail of my car. In order to get my car off, I had to hire a damned flatbed tow truck to pull my car off the FRONT END OF THEIR TRAILER!.. At my own expense! And then at the end of the day, the driver wanted $50 more than agreed upon at delivery! It was absolutely fucking bonkers...
I would kill to have an edison F350 for everyday...i also move my RV every 3 months, occasionally across the whole US. Me & the wife live in it full-time, she's a travel nurse, and i do whatever on the side (usually heavy industry stuff; i always have my tools & everything with me in the bed).
For the extra axle:
Isuzu NRR or Mitsubishu Fuso FG with a flat bed. Call it a farm truck to move anything everything a farm needs
loadstar dump bed would make a good contender
Your crew works hard with the resources and tools you have available to get the job done, I like that. It’s people like you who build the country
Yeah, i would definitely be looking into getting a telehandler.
On your extra axle, would like to a combination full blown services truck/ heavy-Duty wrecker
You don't need an expensive forklift attachment! You can use a set of forks that hang over the bucket, and your only addition is to weld on two to three hooks on the rear top of the bucket. It'll be forks on a budget!
I’m looking forward to whatever the single axle project would be- I like the service truck idea or the idea of a wrecker
An edison welding rig would be so sick.
At least buddy was cool with someone else trying to back it in I wouldn't wanna jack a 53 footer into a yard like that good skills !
As someone in the welding and service truck work for 20 years I soooooo want to see yall do a service rig. And while the EV rescue truck would be kind of a funky little concept the hybrid electric service truck actually has real-world potential because it would be so nice to have a welding rig on site sitting silent while your working without the welder engine running the air compressor engine sitting there idling, truck engine idling for your crane, all of it in silent operation and you could even have a level 3 fast charger cable in a side box so it could charge an electric vehicle as a service call
We all stand behind you
The stuff is there now, just be greatful nothing is damaged. Concentrate on getting the gear fitted, and then take CH to the cleaners over the winter.
Everything sorts itself out in the end, if it's not sorted, you are not at the end.!
I'm glad to see that even the kids were involved in the truck-hunting expedition.!
I am excited to see what you do with the single axle. I have a 95 class 6 expeditor truck with no body I would love to get ideas for.. Love all this, and I am not even a trucker, or logger.
Seeings that I’m a trucker ready to retire I would like to see a nice fully electrified motor home with diesel generator and solar panels atop that extra axle. Wouldn’t mind cruising North America in one of those.
As for the extra axle I think you should order one more and convert an old 895 Versatile (Canadian built) tractor to diesel electric and sell it to a farmer in Alberta or Saskatchewan. Some big tractors were built with truck engines ,truck transmission, and truck rear ends should be a fairly easy swap to diesel electric
diesel electric tractors would bring a smile to my face
The electric service/resue/ recovert unit would be awesome. The need is only going to get bigger for it,,, set the bar
For the extra axle you should do the full service truck. If a large company is sold on the idea of custom log trucks at fleet scale they will be looking for a service truck set up to take care of those trucks. And who better to buy a service truck from than those who are building the trucks.
Love the idea of a fully kitted out recovery vehicle with the E acle
Kudos for speaking out publicly. We’ve been burned by providers many times and I’ve had conversations like this, but never had the courage to post and share so that is small business owners are treated better!
You need to get yourself a lull (boom lift). For unloads and for assembly. Would be a lot smoother than the backhoe.
Used to do this work day in day out loading heavy equipment onto trucks and back off 😂 good work with the block lift
fire/rescue/command unit truck would be pretty cool for a prototype/ step you into another possible market aswell.
Electric service/tow truck is a great idea, you could have helped out that ev kenworth a couple of months ago, keep up the great work guys,,second gear pinner all way getting her done 👍👍👍✌️🤟🤟
I think with the spare E axle. A flat deck crane truck to help out with your company would be a smart move. Put a couple tool boxes on it . A flat deck and a hiab. Doesn't need to be a new hiab as I know you like old iron. Just my two cents as a transport mechanic. Love what you guys do! Been following for a long time
I love that in the videos they use "Shake hands with Danger" track.
EPIC to the 3rd power LOL chasing the delivery truck
The rescue charger tow truck is a great idea. I'm sure lots of cars run out of charge and have to be towed.
Actually pretty uncommon.
Commentary: I like the way you guys offer commentary on a situation.
I went to their Google page just now, and sometime between you taking a screenshot of their Google page and me commenting, they seem to have flagged a bunch of the recent reviews, and they've gotten nearly 20 removed. There are now less total reviews and they've got a higher rating.
They keep buying fake reviews. Report those too!
CH would be wise to do what ever it takes to make you very happy. Reputations are important and they may have just Bud Iit themselves.
Get a pallet jack and a fork lift. I was doing shopping and receiving as a part of my job, and I could move so much material by myself with a little rink a dink forklift and a pallet jack. I unloaded 9 pallets in 21 minutes with the driver moving them to the back with a pallet jack. Heavy pallets full of hubs and bearings and such. It’s the right tool for the job bar none.
I would recommend a Princeton or Moffat three-wheeled forklift. They have a great capacity for their size and maneuverability. Make a kitted out service truck
Or build one with the extra axle! 😂
@@WatanabeNoTsuna. That was my point. Utilize the service body they got when they purchased their shop toolboxes. Then use the e-axle for the drivetrain.
That's a lot of axle for something small. But yes, some sort of maxed out service truck would be cool. Even running a hydraulic pump off an electric motor instead of a PTO would solve a bunch of off road adventuring catastrophes. I've envisioned my old Tandem Tandem C500 boom truck converted.
Every company has to start somewhere, and it make a hell of a lot more sense to keep facilities costs down in the beginning. Maybe you guys could dig out a pit type loading dock with that backhoe for the time being.
If you have an email from the company stating that they were not to broker or load and unload the truck, then you have a breach of contract.
Glad to see that the gear finally arrived.
Watching you guys unload, I can honestly say that the curtain-side rigs that get run down here in Australia are ten times easier to load and unload.
A yard ramp and a forklift might be what you guys need
Service truck for sure! I work in the coal mines of southeast BC and it would be great to see an electric service truck.
Try and find yourself a telehandler. A decent sized (like an 8000lb 50ft boom) telehandler with fork attachment can unload a 40ft trailer in short order without needing a loading ramp
Thank you for covering this headache that is way too much of the trucking industry. These scammer companies should go belly up and out to dry. Screw em
Chase it is very Canadian of you. :) Working with super old stuff and getting it done.
You don't need a forklift. You need forks for your backhoe. And yes it is a quick detach... You have a hinged bucket. Open the bucket and make forks that fit around the lip of the bucket. Then you just pinch to lock.... You can't push down but you can lift.
Maybe make a super versatile rollback type deal, like between the bed and cab ad in a small-ish service box with the fash charger.
Kind of a attempt to fix it and if you can't we can also tow it
I like the service truck idea, i’m thinking Edison motors chassis with 315 super singles all way around. And have everything runoff electric, welder, compressor, & Electric over hydraulic crane
You guys are totally awsome and I can honestly see you building tons of trucks best idea for big trucks in a long time. But that extra axle you could retrofit a motor home and I think they would sell like hot cakes
Honestly, the most logical thing to do with the extra axle is: The vehicle you use to do service call-outs for the trial vehicles you'll be building and then selling.
Might as well get on-hand experience on a single-wheel prototype and get lessons-learned there too, eh?
as for your loading dock, what about the mobile ramps they use on the fish warfs for loading fish from the boat to the truck to go to processing plant. used forklift and ramp, and you can drag that ramp out to the road to unload if needed
I'm glad that you aren't backing down on this and making them take responsibility. When you make it clear what you want and pay top dollar then the service provider should *at least* treat your money with some respect.