This is really useful for me mate, I have not played AoS yet but have always wanted to. At the moment I just buy the start collecting boxes because I like to paint.
On the Sylvaneth box, an additional box of dryads gives enough dryads to have 3x10, 2x10/1x10, or 1x30 units. The extra 2 dryads can be built as branch nymphs (the leader of a dryad unit). Also on avg, without unbinds you can summon 30 dryads per game from a branchwraith. The branchwych in the box can be converted to a branchwraith using the extra dryad parts.
Really good shout. I didn't want to mention the Branchwraith in case an event they attend doesn't approve the conversion. I just wish the dryads didn't come in a weird number
I really like how you mentioned all the possible building for each box set. I didn't know alot of the alternative builds for most of the sets, it really makes some of those start collecting boxes alot more interesting.
BoC Main player here, the BoC SC box is amazing, 100% for sure get 2-3 of them for anyone starting BoC. You are paying basically $5 for a Ghorgon or Cygor, with a Discount its free and you save a few more. If you are able to get a 10-15% discount then get 3 for sure. Make 2 Ghorgons and 1 Cygor (its free might as well make 1 of each). Having 2-3 Shamans is 100% ok and almost lists will have 2, you can actually take some extra Bestigor bits (Head, weapon) and convert the Shaman into a Beastlord, now you have 2 Shamans and a Beastlord. Make 2 Ungors and 1 Raider unit. Finally get the Endless spell kit (the Taurus is just amazing if you can get it off). This will get you a solid 1500pt army, later on you can add in Bullgors, a Doombull, and more Ungors/Raiders/Centigors, etc... You starting list will look like this with 3 SC boxes 1500pts (1480pts) Shaman Shaman Beastlord Bestigors x10 Bestigors x10 Bestigors x10 Ungors x10 Ungors x10 Raiders x10 Ghorgon Ghorgon Taurus Extra CP Battalion
I agree... I bought 4 FEC boxes. My only real issue is the courtier / heroes for the Flayers & Horrors come from the same kit and leaves you with an odd number.
The most usefull starter set review video by far. See a little unbalance some box (STD vs. GS) I mis a skaventide starter, no pestilen and more cities of sigmar boxes
@@AoSCoach I’m huge dwarf fan but I don’t like what they have done with the dwarfs KO looks too steampunk and Fyreslayers all look the same, but just recently I really like the look of Ogor Mawtribes doing my research on them now.
Poor death alliance. FEC have a pretty good start collecting, but the two LoN boxes are terribly shy on battleline models, which hurts a lot in such a hoardy faction, and have big centerpieces that ate too specific and you won't want to run bunches of. Nighthaunt & OBR don't even have proper start collecting. Nighthaunt are at least in the starter sets, but none of those are particularly great model selections for building up an army from scratch.
Nice Vid coach! Great job breaking it down have to say one of the best videos for the start collecting ! Keep up the great work and would love to see you do an all squig army break down ! 😈😈😈
Start Collecting: Moonclan Grots should just be 40 goblins. Because you will use then in every list, and you better get used to painting dozens of tiny gobbos now, because theres a WHOLE LOT MORE where that came from.
@@AoSCoach Yeah, I understand, though with the Slaves and Beastmen about to drop you have most things done. Maybe do "Chapter 1" - Release -> End '22 and later do "Chapter 2 - '23"? Because videos just about Start Collecting for getting started are largely invalid now.
Thank you so much coach always great content! Just saying on the thunder strike brotherhood box, the lord celestant is the Vandus Hammerhand model, it does not come with weapon options nor does it come with a shield 💙
as a adition to this, Prosecutors come with only the dual hammer weapon option and the liberators only come with the hammer and shield option ( no swords or greatweapon here)
Appreciate the feedback Brian. With 28 start collecting boxes there was a fine balance between providing rich insight and not going too long. It might be something I look into making individual videos about the boxes in the future with a greater focus.
Cheers Oliver! Hope it helps you get started with Nighthaunt... lots of options for you. The Mortal Realms magazine if it's available would be great too.
AoS Coach cheers Mate By now I have 2950 points almost painted and running Thx Your content is always 👍 great Thx for that Yesterday’s talk was amazing Keep it up 👍
I am new to this hobby and was wondering, why nighthaunts don't have start collecting box? Is it like a new army that does not have start collecting boxes yet or why?
Good questions Jaro. A lot of these start collecting boxes have been out for a while now, and made before Nighthaunt got a book. Previously it was more mixed death. Nighthaunt came in mid-2018
@@AoSCoach oh right, I understand. I got nighthaunt from a Warhammer soul wars chest and was wondering, if it was similar to its start collecting box until I realise, that they don’t have one 😂 thank you for your reply
@@AoSCoach I can safely say it exceeded them! It's a fantastic concise guide with loads of depth to it. I've got quite a few of these sets half built or waiting to be attacked so this was a great way of seeing where I could take the army once I get them built. The note on battalions was particularly handy!
@@AoSCoach I think you have a video or two on OBR but generally speaking, what do you think would be good to start off with for a 500-1000pts army. I already have a Nighthaunt army and a soul blight army that I may possibly ally into as well, but generally for pure OBR what would work well for a starter?
You can ally Cities of Sigmar units into Daughters of Khaine OR you could use the 'Har Kuron' City of Sigmar which lets you have 1/4 as DoK. Depending on what Dark Elf models you want to use
I have cities of sigmar Can you guys give me feedback on my army 1 warden king 1 cogsmith 1 runelord 1 steamtank with commander 2 longbeards (20 units) 2 irondrakes (20 units with 2 x torpedo) 1 hammerer 1 Ironbreakers 3 gyrobomber's 3 helstorm rockets Grey water battalion City : hammerhall
Your comment didn't come up in my backend now so I do apologies, obviously points have changed since you posted it... the core of this list would be better as an Tempest Eye or Greywater build if i'm being honest. Lots more buffs to support what you're trying to do
This is really useful for me mate, I have not played AoS yet but have always wanted to. At the moment I just buy the start collecting boxes because I like to paint.
instablaster...
On the Sylvaneth box, an additional box of dryads gives enough dryads to have 3x10, 2x10/1x10, or 1x30 units. The extra 2 dryads can be built as branch nymphs (the leader of a dryad unit). Also on avg, without unbinds you can summon 30 dryads per game from a branchwraith. The branchwych in the box can be converted to a branchwraith using the extra dryad parts.
Really good shout. I didn't want to mention the Branchwraith in case an event they attend doesn't approve the conversion. I just wish the dryads didn't come in a weird number
I can't wait for the Sons of Behemet start collecting...
You mean .5 of a box... hahaha!
That box is gonna be absolutely naff value. Half a body for £55? Hell, for double that price, I get two legs and a club. 🙄
I really like how you mentioned all the possible building for each box set. I didn't know alot of the alternative builds for most of the sets, it really makes some of those start collecting boxes alot more interesting.
I've watched countless SC Box reviews while doing my dishes. This is the best :)
Hopefully doing the dishes earnt you another Start Collecting box. I do all the cooking and palm off the cleaning 😏
I don't normally comment on UA-cam but I just wanted to say this guide helped me enormously, thank you for everything you do for the hobby community
This was 1000x better than I expected when I saw “I don’t normally comment on UA-cam” pop up on my phone preview. Glad we could help Michael
BoC Main player here, the BoC SC box is amazing, 100% for sure get 2-3 of them for anyone starting BoC. You are paying basically $5 for a Ghorgon or Cygor, with a Discount its free and you save a few more. If you are able to get a 10-15% discount then get 3 for sure. Make 2 Ghorgons and 1 Cygor (its free might as well make 1 of each). Having 2-3 Shamans is 100% ok and almost lists will have 2, you can actually take some extra Bestigor bits (Head, weapon) and convert the Shaman into a Beastlord, now you have 2 Shamans and a Beastlord. Make 2 Ungors and 1 Raider unit. Finally get the Endless spell kit (the Taurus is just amazing if you can get it off). This will get you a solid 1500pt army, later on you can add in Bullgors, a Doombull, and more Ungors/Raiders/Centigors, etc...
You starting list will look like this with 3 SC boxes
1500pts (1480pts)
Shaman
Shaman
Beastlord
Bestigors x10
Bestigors x10
Bestigors x10
Ungors x10
Ungors x10
Raiders x10
Ghorgon
Ghorgon
Taurus
Extra CP
Battalion
This is a fabulous video... I come back here every few months. The only thing I'd want in addition is how much the models would cost in stores.
Valid point Rob. I kept price away because each country is different and levels of discounts.
@@AoSCoach Ahh. .. makes perfect sense.
flesh eater courts box is by far the best. And really the only thing you need for that army
I agree... I bought 4 FEC boxes. My only real issue is the courtier / heroes for the Flayers & Horrors come from the same kit and leaves you with an odd number.
A must watch for new AoS players
The most usefull starter set review video by far. See a little unbalance some box (STD vs. GS) I mis a skaventide starter, no pestilen and more cities of sigmar boxes
Cheers Bluevil. Some of the boxes are better as upgrades to an existing force than start collecting. I too wish for a human Cities box.
Thank you this video is straight to the point no mucking around, I really want to start AoS army but still can’t decide which army to start.
I’m bias so I will tell you to start my armies. Pick something that looks like you’ll enjoy painting
@@AoSCoach I’m huge dwarf fan but I don’t like what they have done with the dwarfs KO looks too steampunk and Fyreslayers all look the same, but just recently I really like the look of Ogor Mawtribes doing my research on them now.
@@DB-ne8xc have you looked at the more classic dwarves in cities of Sigmar?
@@AoSCoach no not yet I’ll check them out, cheers from Brisbane!
Poor death alliance. FEC have a pretty good start collecting, but the two LoN boxes are terribly shy on battleline models, which hurts a lot in such a hoardy faction, and have big centerpieces that ate too specific and you won't want to run bunches of. Nighthaunt & OBR don't even have proper start collecting. Nighthaunt are at least in the starter sets, but none of those are particularly great model selections for building up an army from scratch.
I hope they revisit some of these boxes soon, the Maligiants one especially
@@AoSCoach Looks like LoN is getting a full rebrand soon, so that would be a good opportunity to do so. We'll see, though.
This is an awesome summary, looking for some starting points to get into the hobby gradually and this really helps figuring out what looks good!
Glad it was helpful Ian. Good luck on your next AoS journey :-D.
Nice Vid coach! Great job breaking it down have to say one of the best videos for the start collecting ! Keep up the great work and would love to see you do an all squig army break down ! 😈😈😈
Soon... very soon! I'll try to get that Talkin' video up. I've been running Jaws of Mork since the rules came out so I'm keen to chat
Start Collecting: Moonclan Grots should just be 40 goblins. Because you will use then in every list, and you better get used to painting dozens of tiny gobbos now, because theres a WHOLE LOT MORE where that came from.
HAHAHAAHAHAHAH it's true! I've painted 180 Stabbaz alone
Great video!
Should have way more views as it is.
Greatings from Germany.
Thanks mate.... I know lots of people are building 40k armies. I'm sure that'll change and we'll get more views 🤞
Probably time to do this again - maybe after the Beasts/Gitz Vanguard boxes?
It’s something i’ve wanted to do but the drip feed updates to the Vanguard boxes makes it hard while SC remain in circulation
@@AoSCoach Yeah, I understand, though with the Slaves and Beastmen about to drop you have most things done.
Maybe do "Chapter 1" - Release -> End '22
and later do "Chapter 2 - '23"?
Because videos just about Start Collecting for getting started are largely invalid now.
Thank you so much coach always great content!
Just saying on the thunder strike brotherhood box, the lord celestant is the Vandus Hammerhand model, it does not come with weapon options nor does it come with a shield 💙
as a adition to this, Prosecutors come with only the dual hammer weapon option and the liberators only come with the hammer and shield option ( no swords or greatweapon here)
Glad Chris mentioned it, because I was going to say that it doesn't come with the alternate build for the Prosecutors or Liberators either. :-(.
Well done
Thanks Jacob
Another great video idea from Coach!
Hopefully it lives up to expectation. It's a rapid fire video
I have yet to be dissatisfied with any video you have created and I am sure this will be no different.
Great breakdown!
Cheers Caleb!
Enjoyed it. My only critique is it could of used more personal insight on each box.
Appreciate the feedback Brian. With 28 start collecting boxes there was a fine balance between providing rich insight and not going too long. It might be something I look into making individual videos about the boxes in the future with a greater focus.
Great video, an awesome guideline for new players!
Thanks Dayne... glad you found it useful. I wish some of the boxes were useful though. Looking at you SC Malignants
Thanks coach!
My pleasure Ronnie
Great video! Very nice guide for new players.
Thanks Dice & Demons... 🤘
Great video, coach
Thanks Garm
awesome video coach! really great start collecting reviews
Thanks Cara. I hope it helped
Thank you!
You're welcome Ajay!
Great video Coach !
Cheers Davis!
Great Video
Had to see it before i started my nighthaunts!!!!
Good Job Coach
Cheers Oliver! Hope it helps you get started with Nighthaunt... lots of options for you. The Mortal Realms magazine if it's available would be great too.
AoS Coach cheers Mate
By now I have 2950 points almost painted and running
Thx
Your content is always 👍 great
Thx for that
Yesterday’s talk was amazing
Keep it up 👍
I am new to this hobby and was wondering, why nighthaunts don't have start collecting box? Is it like a new army that does not have start collecting boxes yet or why?
Good questions Jaro. A lot of these start collecting boxes have been out for a while now, and made before Nighthaunt got a book. Previously it was more mixed death. Nighthaunt came in mid-2018
@@AoSCoach oh right, I understand. I got nighthaunt from a Warhammer soul wars chest and was wondering, if it was similar to its start collecting box until I realise, that they don’t have one 😂 thank you for your reply
Yeeees, great topic 🙌
I hope so Tam
Very excited to see this!
Hopefully it meets your expectation Chris
@@AoSCoach I can safely say it exceeded them! It's a fantastic concise guide with loads of depth to it. I've got quite a few of these sets half built or waiting to be attacked so this was a great way of seeing where I could take the army once I get them built. The note on battalions was particularly handy!
Amazing thanks for this coach!!
This is exciting
I hope so mate
I wanna get Arkhan and given that he cost roughly the same as Start Collecting, you bet I'll get some spare Skeletons!
It's a no brainer with some of these kits... this one is a perfect example. All useable!
Hope there will be a new edition of this in December 2022 timeframe..
I've held off a little because the Start Collecting boxes seem to be being replaced with Vanguard but it's slow.
Gday gday ya bladdy legend
G'day Mate! Hahaha bladdy legend
I’m still shocked Ossiarch doesn’t have a SC yet.
Interesting... I hadn't noticed (I hadn't looked either). I wonder why there is no SC for OBR
@@AoSCoach I think you have a video or two on OBR but generally speaking, what do you think would be good to start off with for a 500-1000pts army.
I already have a Nighthaunt army and a soul blight army that I may possibly ally into as well, but generally for pure OBR what would work well for a starter?
Nice video coach! Still can't get my friend to buy any of those boxes :D
Come on friend... join the cult!
350 points of a start collecting? Tell him he's dreamin
😂. I mean... it could mean that you get lots of models in your army
Can I use the anvil guards darkelves with the daughters of khaine?
You can ally Cities of Sigmar units into Daughters of Khaine OR you could use the 'Har Kuron' City of Sigmar which lets you have 1/4 as DoK. Depending on what Dark Elf models you want to use
Seeing how few points each box is, my wallet is currently hating my friends who decided to start with this and dragging me along.
It's a long term investment... short term pain, long term gain 🤣
Good one bro
Cheers mate
I have cities of sigmar
Can you guys give me feedback on my army
1 warden king
1 cogsmith
1 runelord
1 steamtank with commander
2 longbeards (20 units)
2 irondrakes (20 units with 2 x torpedo)
1 hammerer
1 Ironbreakers
3 gyrobomber's
3 helstorm rockets
Grey water battalion
City : hammerhall
Your comment didn't come up in my backend now so I do apologies, obviously points have changed since you posted it... the core of this list would be better as an Tempest Eye or Greywater build if i'm being honest. Lots more buffs to support what you're trying to do
You sure earned a sub With that one 😂
Thanks Daniel 🙏
You should have mentiponed all of the easy conversions you can preform on these boxes
Good shout. It's was aimed mostly at new players so I didn't want to throw to much at them
@@AoSCoach there's a great guide online for the sepheron box to make about 10 kits out of it it's great
Great video
Thanks Rocco! Appreciate the Discord input too
Love the hat man!
Hahaha thanks StarDog. Might eventually sell them one day
@@AoSCoach They would sell like hot cakes that is for sure
good video
Thanks Adam
Kickazz video
Thanks brother
Love the vid!!!!
Cheers Dave! Glad you enjoyed it mate
i liked it again :D
Did you unlike then like again?
@@AoSCoach exactly
Damn I gotta stop watching your old videos. I didn't know that the LoN box can make 3 different Mortarchs... tempting.
Yeah it makes Neffy, Manny & Skeletor... I mean Arkhan
That Gloomspite Gits box is a fucking joke and a waste of money, it's that ridiculous!!!
The Gitz one is great for collectors but poor for army synergy. You're really building two halves of an army