Ian Flynn Ruins the Lives of Children (and it's GREAT) | Sonic Speed Reading

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  • Опубліковано 25 бер 2021
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  • @nicodemusedwards6931
    @nicodemusedwards6931 3 роки тому +1409

    Sonic now knows the true meaning of war.

    • @khriskirby8986
      @khriskirby8986 3 роки тому +47

      WAR

    • @Blu_Moon_VA
      @Blu_Moon_VA 3 роки тому +115

      NONE OF THIS IS GOOD, THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED *W A R*

    • @victorianeal637
      @victorianeal637 3 роки тому +17

      @@Blu_Moon_VA i glad this series take place after a sonic game which is
      (sonic forces)

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 3 роки тому +34

      Watch SatAM, and the Archie Comics and you will see He already knows.

    • @khriskirby8986
      @khriskirby8986 3 роки тому +17

      @@Blu_Moon_VA "WAR IS HELL." -somecallmejohnny

  • @sophiaquintana256
    @sophiaquintana256 3 роки тому +1224

    Ken Penders: Adds too many characters
    Ian Flynn: Ruining characters lives

    • @NoNamex1412
      @NoNamex1412 3 роки тому +125

      I mean Ken ruined their lives too

    • @sophiaquintana256
      @sophiaquintana256 3 роки тому +113

      @@NoNamex1412 I really depise Ken Penders

    • @dad5draco
      @dad5draco 3 роки тому +12

      r/fuckkenpenders, lol.

    • @Davanthall
      @Davanthall 3 роки тому +80

      @@sophiaquintana256 That's because you're a smart person.

    • @Need_RnR
      @Need_RnR 3 роки тому +58

      Ken Penders: RUINS characters, lives, franchises...
      and is the sum of ALL Origins of internet CRINGE...
      and F**kery....
      Ian Flynn: The best Sonic writer.
      RUINER of characters lives... with NO happy endings...
      Before they get canceled....
      *BECAUSE* of Ken Penders.
      There... fixed.
      :)

  • @acehardware2823
    @acehardware2823 3 роки тому +840

    New Sonic theory:
    Ian Flynn hates Bees.
    You can't change my mind.

    • @NoNamex1412
      @NoNamex1412 3 роки тому +36

      Damnit i actually like charmy here

    • @Help_Im_On_Fire
      @Help_Im_On_Fire 3 роки тому +6

      @@NoNamex1412 Same

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 3 роки тому +6

      He‘s the anti-Rebecca Sugar. The antiverse is still canon, people!

    • @yohschannel5226
      @yohschannel5226 3 роки тому +6

      Ian played Sonic Robo Blast 2 and tried Aerial Garden Zone

    • @mavrickindigo
      @mavrickindigo 3 роки тому +3

      But he is the bumble king

  • @brolookatthatthingbehindyo1324
    @brolookatthatthingbehindyo1324 3 роки тому +934

    Even years later, Ian Flynn can't get enough to ruining Charmy's life

    • @bagelgod946
      @bagelgod946 3 роки тому +56

      Both within 30 comics of him becoming the head writer to...

    • @feywinterfox9630
      @feywinterfox9630 3 роки тому +94

      😂 When you say it like that all I can see now is...
      Ian Flynn: That’s a happy looking Charmy over there....sure would be a shame if something bad was too happen to his life....continuously!

    • @annon-hc253
      @annon-hc253 3 роки тому +10

      Ouch...

    • @sophiaquintana256
      @sophiaquintana256 3 роки тому +7

      Ken Penders is just as bad if not worse

    • @kaistudios5536
      @kaistudios5536 3 роки тому +1

      I don't quite follow?

  • @shonenbois
    @shonenbois 3 роки тому +419

    I’m glad this Issue showed how Capable of a leader Vector is and isn’t just the comedy relief character

    • @sonicmario64
      @sonicmario64 3 роки тому +29

      Same here, and that's probably the reason why he's my favorite member of Team Chaotix. :)

    • @wafflelados
      @wafflelados 2 роки тому +11

      Vector isn't funny, he may be clumsy, but the funny one is Charmy, he makes Vector look funny

  • @MAXfutbol8338
    @MAXfutbol8338 3 роки тому +329

    Sonic talking Cream through the immediate grief of losing Cheese and Chocola was one of the most amazing moments in the saga. It's the reason I love this arc so much. Having not given Archie a deep dive, this is my first official exposure to these characters suffering in sorrow. And it is so amazing seeing how they fight through all that for the sake of their world.

  • @Help_Im_On_Fire
    @Help_Im_On_Fire 3 роки тому +375

    "Now I'm going to forever be haunted by Pizza Underwear"
    - Game Apologists 2021

  • @FrostTheHobidon
    @FrostTheHobidon 3 роки тому +250

    Vector is a Capable Leader, Charmy is a Kid who wants to save people hoping there's a chance they can be saved, and it was sad to see him captured and infected.

    • @alejandrolozano4919
      @alejandrolozano4919 3 роки тому +8

      Yea I don’t hate he but same time do but not a very heavy way. Charmy want to help he trying best and got infected right away.

    • @candythefox
      @candythefox Рік тому +1

      Charmy it's my third favorite i cry when he was infected😔😖

  • @M_Alexander
    @M_Alexander 3 роки тому +236

    Charmy had the single best shot at avoiding infection and, well

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  3 роки тому +119

      Honestly that's probably why he was taken out.

    • @twaggytheatricks4960
      @twaggytheatricks4960 3 роки тому +37

      @@GameApologist Yeeeeah. At least it makes sense why, I suppose. It didn't bother me QUITE as much as Shadow's case XD

    • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
      @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 2 роки тому +9

      Jokes on you the chao did too and all 3 made it hell

    • @dragonquest8ftw1
      @dragonquest8ftw1 2 роки тому +5

      @@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 The chao were only kid-like creatures that didn't fully understand the gravity of what was happening to them, all the more sad to think about really knowing they couldn't stop them from getting infected.

  • @bagelgod946
    @bagelgod946 3 роки тому +200

    Gotta say I love how they made vector. Still comedic but you can see why he’s the leader.

  • @wakeangel2001
    @wakeangel2001 3 роки тому +220

    There is one thing about this issue that answered a question I had for a long time. WAAAAY back when Sonic Heroes first came out in the Team Rose story we were introduced to this brown chao that we were told was Cheese's brother named Chocola, and we never see him again. Who was Chocola and why did we never see him again even though Cream DID appear in several games after that? THIS issued finally explains it, Chocola is Vanilla's chao partner the same way Cheese is Cream's. Just as we have a "Cream Cheese" pun with that iconic duo we also have Vanilla and Chocolate.
    This also fuels my theory that Vanilla is a retired adventurer who used to travel the globe kicking all sorts of ass with her chao partner chocola, but settled down when she got pregnant with her daughter. That would explain why Vanilla can be so intimidating, even to a group of heroes who have battled gods and averted apocalypses (I'm not even joking, you've read the comic, you've SEEN Amy and Rouge TREMBLE at the very idea that Vanilla might be even slightly upset with them, I'm pretty sure Vanilla can make Shadow sit down and eat his veggies.)

    • @case_sensitive
      @case_sensitive 3 роки тому +36

      That's actually a fun head-canon

    • @shadowclaw7210
      @shadowclaw7210 2 роки тому +9

      You know with Mr.Clutchs quote of “the new generation of heroes”. Maybe you on to something ?

    • @swiflte
      @swiflte 2 роки тому +3

      My new head-canon

  • @phantomstrider
    @phantomstrider 3 роки тому +902

    Damn.. Forget the "dark" Sonic Forces story. I'd way prefer a game about the freedom fighters overcoming the Zombotpocalypse.

    • @RobocopStealerOfFridges
      @RobocopStealerOfFridges 3 роки тому +22

      Well, if the freedom fighters appeared, that would be about the Swatbotalypse.

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo 3 роки тому +19

      THE GAME'S NOT WEAAAAAAAAAAK

    • @ericparazak8448
      @ericparazak8448 3 роки тому +2

      yes

    • @Mike14264
      @Mike14264 3 роки тому +3

      Strider! Fancy seeing you down here! 😁

    • @wisccheese9257
      @wisccheese9257 3 роки тому +2

      Idw artwork got me interested

  • @hubster3055
    @hubster3055 3 роки тому +226

    16:52 The two extra characters in this scene are based on the OCs of two kids from Venezuela. Their friend asked Tracy Yardley to include them in the issue in any way he could because they were going through hard times and wanted some way to help them feel better.

    • @GamerTowerDX
      @GamerTowerDX 3 роки тому +70

      Ngl I really like their designs so props to the kids I guess.

    • @user-jz8dd3zj8e
      @user-jz8dd3zj8e 3 роки тому +25

      I really hope they’re okay now.

    • @DrawingBoi-24
      @DrawingBoi-24 7 місяців тому +1

      Where did you get the information?

  • @karenbonds264
    @karenbonds264 3 роки тому +342

    "For the sake of this video, I'll call her *Karen* because she's putting everyone at risk."
    Me who's an introvert who will go out of her way to avoid people in the supermarket even before the Pandemic hit: "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @renegadedjinn5325
      @renegadedjinn5325 3 роки тому +11

      Cute name but I think he got the "Karen" tag wrong.^^

    • @RoninCatholic
      @RoninCatholic 3 роки тому +30

      The Karen stereotype also applies to the people most aggressive in bullying other people into wearing masks, even people with medical conditions preventing the use, post-recovery status obsoleting their need, or in inappropriate places like outdoors or when alone in their own cars.
      The Karen stereotype is one of exerting undue social control and pressure combined with unwarranted self-importance...and doesn't really have much to do with women literally named Karen aside from Karen being a common name for women in the age range the stereotype is most applicable to.

    • @infiniteoctopaw
      @infiniteoctopaw 3 роки тому +44

      Being named Karen is not the same thing as *being* “a Karen”. Don’t worry you’re cool.

    • @Hey-Its-Dingo
      @Hey-Its-Dingo 3 роки тому +10

      @@infiniteoctopaw This, there are many, many good people named "Karen" and the majority of karens aren't actually named Karen. The term originated in Black communities, from what I've heard, a "karen" is someone, usually a white woman but not always, who puts their own needs over everything else, not caring about anybody else. So when a large group of people in a GLOBAL PANDEMIC were acting for ONLY their needs and not caring about anybody else, the term got applied to them, and White people, myself included sad to say, took it mainstream. Just a little history lesson on the term "Karen"

    • @mythosinfinite6736
      @mythosinfinite6736 3 роки тому +6

      Some sacrifices are necessary in the name of comedy

  • @KavinCatastrophe
    @KavinCatastrophe 3 роки тому +326

    And Who Says The Zombot Virus Isn't Kid Friendly. It Clearly Loves Kids.

    • @ShibuNub3305
      @ShibuNub3305 3 роки тому +29

      I interpreted that sentence differently.

    • @stupiderandunnecessarier
      @stupiderandunnecessarier 3 роки тому +48

      @@ShibuNub3305 "When a stranger tries to touch you in a place that makes you feel uncomfortable..."

    • @FixyFlow
      @FixyFlow 3 роки тому +40

      @@stupiderandunnecessarier “That’s no good!”

    • @CyanicCore
      @CyanicCore 3 роки тому +7

      Nice one

    • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
      @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 3 роки тому +7

      ...dear God don't even get me started on what they do to vanilla and vector

  • @amazaine8743
    @amazaine8743 3 роки тому +134

    I wouldnt say he "Ruins the lives of Children", more like teaches them *very* bluntly.

    • @obd9660
      @obd9660 3 роки тому +8

      I think that title might have been a joke, or he might've been referring to the Sonic child characters.

    • @NamekianG
      @NamekianG 2 роки тому +3

      Cream and Charmy are the children whose lives got ruined

  • @ViroVeteruscy
    @ViroVeteruscy 3 роки тому +166

    "Vector's Wabbit Waifu"
    Ah, a man of culture I see~

    • @dalhillama5858
      @dalhillama5858 3 роки тому +13

      "She's the size of an average human mother"

  • @dad5draco
    @dad5draco 3 роки тому +223

    Don't let this distract you from the fact that this arc was inspired by cheat code skins from Sonic Heroes.

    • @NoNamex1412
      @NoNamex1412 3 роки тому +11

      And probably wechnia too

    • @dad5draco
      @dad5draco 3 роки тому +30

      @@NoNamex1412 Isn't that just Starline?

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 3 роки тому +15

      Also the Walking Dead as it was a scraped Archie Story from 2012 mend to jump in the Zombie train that Walking dead unleashed around that time.

    • @Help_Im_On_Fire
      @Help_Im_On_Fire 3 роки тому +4

      @@dad5draco Yes. Yes it is.

    • @umwha
      @umwha 3 роки тому +4

      Damn, It seems crazy that these supplemental comics have more detailed character developing stories

  • @misterzygarde6431
    @misterzygarde6431 3 роки тому +73

    If Evan Stanley ever wanted to have Eggman temporarily written out of the comics to focus on another villain, I think having him be beaten into a coma by an angry mob who still remember the Metal Virus could work. Heck I think it could easily set up a storyline where a power vacuum causes many wannabe villains who steal Eggman’s tech to end up becoming major threats.
    Heck imagine some villains messing with other villains like one who has the Deadly Six have brainwashing helmets stuck on them that turns them into idiots on the level of Peter Griffin. One that controls Metal Sonic who briefly regains control to plead for help. I think it could make for a fun arc.

    • @dantemustdie00
      @dantemustdie00 3 роки тому +16

      Oh the Virus is by far the worst thing Eggman has ever done aside from splitting the Earth (Unleashed), and he nearly got infected himself

  • @winterdragon2004
    @winterdragon2004 3 роки тому +60

    Gotta say that, as much as this ultimately backfired on him, I love that Cheese was immediately on the offensive. We've seen how strong he is in the Advance games, so making him out to be rather agressive when the time comes is a nice little touch

  • @mistersp3753
    @mistersp3753 3 роки тому +36

    7:08 Wow, big moment for Vector here. Really nice to see him take care of a difficult situation like that and potentially save thousands of lives. This is exactly what makes a good team leader and a great hero.

  • @overse7938
    @overse7938 3 роки тому +22

    Ian flynn: *gets stung by a bee*
    Ian flynn: thats it, this means WAR

  • @Da_Boeh7312
    @Da_Boeh7312 3 роки тому +68

    Sonic's ability to shrug off life-threatening and mentally disturbing, traumatic events is absolutely bewildering.

    • @lynxfresh5214
      @lynxfresh5214 3 роки тому +27

      MC privilege plus mandates that prevent you for being "too emotional" is a heck of a thing right?

    • @Da_Boeh7312
      @Da_Boeh7312 3 роки тому +14

      ​@@lynxfresh5214 I mean, it suits him somewhat cause his carefree spirit and what-not but it's still kinda insane...

    • @xxpandagalaxyxx5655
      @xxpandagalaxyxx5655 3 роки тому +28

      His life is a cycle of “life threatening event, life threatening event handled.” Dudes just used to it.

    • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
      @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 3 роки тому +23

      He doesn't exactly shrug em off... he quite literally runs away from it

    • @corruptedteka
      @corruptedteka 2 роки тому +2

      You'd be amazed with Ash Ketchum from the Pokemon anime.

  • @Blu_Moon_VA
    @Blu_Moon_VA 3 роки тому +53

    This arc in Three Words: DEPRESSION _also Shadow_

  • @bup4155
    @bup4155 3 роки тому +119

    Honestly these comics have been like the best thing to come out of sonic in a long time

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 3 роки тому +17

    Sonic Fans: "Hasn't Charmy suffer enough"
    Ian Flynn: "No"

  • @Help_Im_On_Fire
    @Help_Im_On_Fire 3 роки тому +107

    Also not going to lie when Charmy, Vanilla and Vector got the Metal Virus. I cried for 2 hours.....

    • @dantemustdie00
      @dantemustdie00 3 роки тому +28

      And Cream goes into depression cause of it.
      But the worst tho is what happened to Tangle, cause Whisper get's completely shattered.

    • @Help_Im_On_Fire
      @Help_Im_On_Fire 3 роки тому +19

      @@dantemustdie00 Yeah. Also Espio got depressed after what happened to Charmy and Vector. If you pay attention to Espio after What happened to Vector, you can see him go through the diffrent stages of grief.
      Edit : I remember Espio literally had tears in his eyes after he saw Vector "Die"

    • @starlight72733
      @starlight72733 3 роки тому +1

      @@Help_Im_On_Fire Looks like he went through those stages real quick! :(

    • @Help_Im_On_Fire
      @Help_Im_On_Fire 3 роки тому +1

      @@starlight72733 Yeah. Thankfully both Vector and Charmy were cured though

    • @veryangryboi4128
      @veryangryboi4128 3 роки тому +1

      I laughed cuz this saga tried so hard to be serious

  • @megacrashthehedgehog5377
    @megacrashthehedgehog5377 3 роки тому +42

    Interesting fact, that forest fire scene was partially made due to someone asking Tracey Yardley to include their fan characters in the issue. But again, only part of the reason.

    • @case_sensitive
      @case_sensitive 3 роки тому +4

      I can believe the fan character designs being used, but writing in the whole scene just for that seems a bit far fetched. Where is this said?

    • @case_sensitive
      @case_sensitive 3 роки тому +2

      Actually I just realized you said partially so never mind

  • @thegamingembassy1543
    @thegamingembassy1543 3 роки тому +72

    IDW did something powerful in this arc...they made me care about Cream and Vanilla. Usually, they are side characters, but Cream is pushed to step up in a difficult situation. Much respect to Flynn and IDW for the book.

  • @chaoguardian8971
    @chaoguardian8971 3 роки тому +41

    I can't say I was expecting this to hit the fan so quickly in just 2 issues and if you think it won't get worse... *Cries Internally*

  • @GreatFox42
    @GreatFox42 3 роки тому +51

    Cream is legit one of my favorite characters in the series explicitly because of stuff like this. She's simultaneously a grounding character to give a "normal" perspective on any situation, being a young child and all who brings a loose sense of what it's like to not be one of the bigger players, while still being a badass in her own right. Her debut here is exactly how I would have liked to see it. Especially since I've missed her a lot in the games (her and a lot of the other characters, really) it's cool to see her be important in some way again.

  • @tappertrust4308
    @tappertrust4308 2 роки тому +9

    "social distancing is a thing, KAREN ,now you're stuck in a car cage!" Best line in the video

  • @dereknight861
    @dereknight861 3 роки тому +14

    SEGA:
    Sonic and Dark stories can’t work hand in hand.
    Ian Flynn: HOW BOUT THIS?!?

  • @MrJoeyWheeler
    @MrJoeyWheeler 3 роки тому +15

    "And don't touch any shiny metal people unless you want to be transformed into one of those weird silver street performers"
    I've been on the internet long enough to know there's a not-insignificant number of people who'd do that deliberately.

  • @Help_Im_On_Fire
    @Help_Im_On_Fire 3 роки тому +81

    SOCIAL DISTINCING IS A THING KAREN! NOW YOUR STUCK IN A CAR CAGE!
    - Game Apologists 2021

  • @rainpooper7088
    @rainpooper7088 3 роки тому +25

    Honestly, I don’t think Charmy‘s behavior was out of character at all. It maybe would have been if it wasn’t motivated by saving a specific person and even then you could probably argue that he doesn’t quite understand just how quickly the virus spreads. He‘s five years old and not exactly the kind of kid to 100% do what his elders tell him to do.

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 3 роки тому +1

      I would disagree with you on that one mostly because Charmy did show more awareness about the dangers of such a situation and staying goal orientated in both Shadow and Forces (aka the 2 wars are poor Bee already had to go through)

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 3 роки тому +1

      @@vectorfan2
      See your argument comes in it self with one rather large problem and that is that you ascribe the knowledge to Charmy that he knows the GUN Solders can take care of them self (even through its pretty clear in the story and even during many stages that GUN is losing a lot of troupes in this war) yet your argument for Charmy's action requires him to be dumb enough to not realize that anyone that got infected just got them self a Game Over as it will completely consume the infected person in a small amount of time. I properly would have been less annoyed at it if Charmy was generally looking for survives that he could fly out only for the Metal Flicky from the previous issue to get him. BUT him not understanding that someone infected it lost is just to much given the level of understanding Charmy did show in Shadow.
      And beside that did I list Forces as well for a reason that being that this action of Charmy relies on him wanting to save everyone even if it puts him at massive risk but which such an attitude would he during Forces have to confront Infinite sooner of latter during the 6 months as he in the Avatars flashback clearly saw that Infinite had no issues with blowing up civilians.
      (and I suppose its only fair for me to mention that I also come at this not entirely unbiased as the writer Ian Flynn did show during his run at the Archie Sonic comics similar problems writing for the Kid Characters that aren't Tails with a good Charmy example being that during the reboot era Charmy was written to be really scarred of Ghost despite him having no such fear in Heroes (and its not that Characters can't be afraid of ghost but unlike Tails and Marine is Charmy not suppose to be scared by them))
      Also I would love to talk about how Vector in issue 22 just like everything else in issue 22 after the end of Cream and Amy's talk was badly written but as you don't want to spoil anything for anyone stumbling over this comment will I not go about that here because I can't really address it without spoiling almost the entire issue.

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 3 роки тому +1

      @@vectorfan2 Well you put it quite nicely and I also enjoy Charmy's writing in Shadow.
      But all of this beings me back to my problem with the Comic it was TO DUMB of a thing for Charmy to do as it was even with what little we have of him clearly shown that he would understand the situation and act less idiotic about it.

    • @technicolormischief-maker5683
      @technicolormischief-maker5683 3 роки тому +6

      How are GUN and Infinite comparable to the Metal Virus? Neither of those are threats entirely comprised of former civilians, nor are they particularly hard to understand like a virus is. Hanging back from them is a pretty clear-cut way to avoid the issue and isn’t going to fill the kid with guilt at having to consciously leave behind innocent people. Guilt which, mind you, consistently overrides logic for informed adults on a daily basis.
      It doesn’t necessarily matter whether Charmy is levelheaded under normal circumstances, because the Metal Virus is far from a normal circumstance. Whatever you think of Charmy, he has never been in a situation this stressful or complicated in this continuity and is clearly not equipped for it. That naturally leads people to make mistakes they wouldn’t otherwise.
      Also, I’d like to point out that we never actually see Vector share everything he heard from Tails with Charmy and Espio, just a few basic snippets of information. Meaning that Charmy was missing a *lot* of crucial knowledge. It’s entirely plausible that he just didn’t realize how quickly the virus took over, that it couldn’t be cured by conventional means, so on and so forth. (He also saw an infected Sonic getting along just fine, but going that deep into it just feels like semantics at that point).

  • @toopienator
    @toopienator 3 роки тому +23

    Love how he started the sponsor talking about pizza stuff for his room and the music for the sponsor was the Spider-Man 2 pizza theme. Like that. Nobody else would put that little touch in for a sponsor, but you did. Nice.
    The video itself is great as always. No need to say anything about that. Been enjoying these vids.

  • @MarioKartGamerDude
    @MarioKartGamerDude 3 роки тому +15

    Can you imagine if Sonic saw Tails and Knuckles get infected right in front of him?

    • @SrPaisano
      @SrPaisano 3 роки тому +5

      Maybe we would see Dark Sonic again after 15 years

  • @trika91
    @trika91 3 роки тому +10

    I love how you keep calling Vector and Espio Charmy’s ‘Reptile Daddies’.

  • @ThatBoiDarius_
    @ThatBoiDarius_ 3 роки тому +70

    This arc just makes me want Ian Flynn to write the games more. I’d argue that this is some of his best work and maybe One of the best stories in the Sonic franchise Can’t wait to see more of it in the future.

    • @runezunn6655
      @runezunn6655 3 роки тому +5

      Honestly, the Metal Virus Arc is so horribly long and terribly paced. Sorry to say but Flynn can't write good stories and if he did, he's extremely picky about it. I came from the Archie Sonic crowd who tried to give the IDW comics a chance and I can't see how the current comic run would be able to be saved unless there is a changeup.
      Fun fact: This arc was gonna be in the Archie Sonic run before that was cancelled. Glad that wasn't the case.

    • @boombirdking2118
      @boombirdking2118 3 роки тому +5

      @@runezunn6655 I think the virus was too soon and too extreme. There’s also no real damage because the chaos emeralds end up destroying it and everyone is back to normal, no long term consequences afterwards. Also Eggman almost destroyed the world intentionally with no real regret for it, that’s just straight evil and Shadow is justified in wanting him dead now that he’s not mr. tinker.
      Eggman was tricked into almost destroying the world during Adventure 2, and Shadow sacrificed himself to stop the plan he was carrying out.
      Edit: During the credits, Eggman even speaks to Tails about looking up to his Grandfather and questions if he really wanted to destroy the planet. Look up that ending credits cutscene.

    • @runezunn6655
      @runezunn6655 3 роки тому +5

      ​@@boombirdking2118 Exactly. I get the point of putting stakes in a storyline but this arc was simply too much. It was one disaster stacked on top of another into one huge angst fest.
      In this very arc, Dr. Eggman acted incredibly evil for what? I mean, while he is an antagonist, in his core, people know that he is not that flipping heartless. This Metal Virus in itself essentially threatens to wipe out potential future generations of Mobians along with other plant-life and so forth. He essentially makes it known that there will be no future had the virus haven't been rid of completely.
      If anything, this seriously is like legit Eggman Nega-levels of villainy, no lies about that.

    • @moosesues8887
      @moosesues8887 3 роки тому

      My hero

    • @paxhumana2015
      @paxhumana2015 3 роки тому

      @@runezunn6655 , what if it was not Dr. Eggman, but, instead, it was Dr. Robotnik posing as Dr. Eggman?

  • @kaylemathewcomendador6964
    @kaylemathewcomendador6964 3 роки тому +26

    Damn, your having 0 tolerance for Charmy’s childish naivety in this arc. Honestly I didn’t mind it for some odd reason. Maybe because I found his weird reasoning for wanting to save as much people as possible somewhat justifiable here in a way.

  • @SlashCraftJack
    @SlashCraftJack 3 роки тому +4

    You forgot when Cream pulled a Maria Robotnik, telling GEMERL "...Shouldn't they have a chance to be happy?"
    Cream is to Sonic as Maria was to Shadow.

  • @polyman6859
    @polyman6859 3 роки тому +27

    Ian just really loves to hurt Charmy man..... ALSO MY BOY FINALLY GOT A SPONSOR LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @polyman6859
      @polyman6859 3 роки тому +3

      @@golddigginboi2187 Bitch what? The dude is getting money which means more content for us. What are you 7?

  • @FrostTheHobidon
    @FrostTheHobidon 3 роки тому +10

    Ian Made it dark, knowing that they will be ok in the end.

  • @littleguystar
    @littleguystar 3 роки тому +7

    Remember kids, this was supposed to be an Archie story. And they chose to bring it to IDW with all the more innocent characters.

  • @lance2580
    @lance2580 3 роки тому +12

    "THE ZOMBOTS ATE YOUR BRAINS!" - Ian Flynn

  • @pizzahutkidman8806
    @pizzahutkidman8806 3 роки тому +5

    Ah, Charmy and the Chaos. It's intersting that they picked those two because really, they're some of the worst characters to get infected. A zombie thay can fly is more dangerous than one that cannot. Also poor Charmy, the kid has his gulit eat at him and then gets basically mawlled.

  • @babsossom1224
    @babsossom1224 3 роки тому +29

    IDW had me weak bro.Shit was *insert Italian kiss* AMAZINGGGGG.(Really hope they keep up the good work)🥴

    • @ThickSteven
      @ThickSteven 3 роки тому +1

      🤌

    • @joseluissifuentes8639
      @joseluissifuentes8639 3 роки тому +1

      Wow, the IDW Sonic comics are so dark like Transformers Prime and the Transformers IDW comics

  • @MetalToast27
    @MetalToast27 3 роки тому +21

    Wow you're first sponsor! You've grown so much! You've went from green game man to funny green game man with sponsors!

  • @doraeguyakaneddie6586
    @doraeguyakaneddie6586 3 роки тому +11

    It's been two whole voice casts since we've seen the Chaotixs in there agency

  • @Gilbot9000
    @Gilbot9000 3 роки тому +5

    So this title finally motivated me to go read all the IDW Sonic comics starting from issue 1 in a weekend, then binge all of this in an evening. These comics are *SO* rad. Thanks for the motivation, Nick.

  • @KC_Garcia
    @KC_Garcia 3 роки тому +7

    Imagine the amount of therapy the entire Sonic universe will need

  • @SuperStaticPro
    @SuperStaticPro 3 роки тому +25

    The title alone got me to click in 0.12 second.

  • @navybluemagic8571
    @navybluemagic8571 3 роки тому +9

    This series has to be a game
    The perfect way showing all the characters in the immediate situation only to see almost all of them go

  • @evdestroy4121
    @evdestroy4121 3 роки тому +3

    I love how Charmy is getting decimated and you're just laughing your butt off.

  • @HedgehogY2K
    @HedgehogY2K 3 роки тому +4

    16:20 the GBA Sonic Advance 3 actually shows a picture of Tails restoring Gemeral so that knowledge is absolutely canon, except Sega never thought about making a cameo of him ever. Even Blaze visited Cream's house yet no sign of Gemeral in the DS ever. It was such a missed opportunity.

    • @lynxfresh5214
      @lynxfresh5214 3 роки тому +1

      Look on the bright-side at least Gemerl didn't appear in Sonic Chronicles (as originally planned by Bioware) he might've ended up like poor Shade... :/

    • @HedgehogY2K
      @HedgehogY2K 3 роки тому +1

      @@lynxfresh5214 Oh yes, like that changes falling into no show obscurity. Both Gemeral and Shade never to appear in another game.

    • @lynxfresh5214
      @lynxfresh5214 3 роки тому +2

      @@HedgehogY2K True but at least Gemerl still has a chance of reappearing in future Sonic games (even if its just a brief cameo) and IDW brought him back to relevance.
      Meanwhile Shade has next to no chance of appearing in ANY future Sonic media thanks to Ken Penders.

    • @HedgehogY2K
      @HedgehogY2K 3 роки тому

      @@lynxfresh5214 Uh, you do know the archie comics aren't the same canon as the games right?

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 3 роки тому +2

      @@HedgehogY2K The problem he#s getting at is that the moment Sega uses Shade or any of the Nocturnes clan again can Ken Penders sue Sega again for "stealing" concepts he created for the Archie Sonic Comics (he can't right now because a Judge told him so after his last attempt) and so its often believed that in order to avoid another lawsuit (even if it properly would end badly for ken again) these characters became rendered unusable.

  • @olliesidaway
    @olliesidaway 3 роки тому +7

    Did anyone notice how Sonic’s enter scene was basically his 06 introduction? I was expecting him to say “Snazzy performance there”

  • @karenbonds264
    @karenbonds264 3 роки тому +56

    Even though I didn't appreciate that little "Karen" thing you pulled, to show no hard feelings I will tell you that the scene with the two fire starters ( 16:56 ) are OCs created by people from Venezuela that were going through some hard times.
    They asked Tracey Yardley to add their characters to the comic, and she did, hence this scene. Basically this is the first time a fan-made OC was ever featured in Sonic Comic history.

    • @Help_Im_On_Fire
      @Help_Im_On_Fire 3 роки тому +8

      That's actually really interesting!

    • @paxhumana2015
      @paxhumana2015 3 роки тому +4

      @Karen Bonds, now if they would only add in the Archie and Fleetway characters, I would be happy because they made the vast majority of Sonic lore, like it or not.

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  3 роки тому +15

      Damn dude that's really cool. Thank you for the info!

    • @rosiearchfield6040
      @rosiearchfield6040 3 роки тому +9

      @@paxhumana2015 they legally can't is the problem, look up the ken penders lawsuit it explains why so much shit from Archie and even the main games got cut in the 2010s

    • @lightgivemepower6425
      @lightgivemepower6425 3 роки тому +6

      I mean, he's technically not wrong about the Karen thing. Seems like you get offended.

  • @ssnnd6535
    @ssnnd6535 2 роки тому +2

    Charmy deserves better he can never catch a break

  • @cosmicfails2053
    @cosmicfails2053 2 роки тому +2

    18:07
    Can we appreciate that, I know its NOT supposed to be blood, but, the splatter of red above cream as shes screaming we can't leave them
    Looks a lot like god damn blood splattering.

  • @bubbleboi1122
    @bubbleboi1122 3 роки тому +51

    YEAHHHHH SONIC SPEED READING IS FINALLY BACK WOOOOOOO

    • @dad5draco
      @dad5draco 3 роки тому +5

      Aw, he edited and lost his heart. RIP

    • @ThickSteven
      @ThickSteven 3 роки тому +1

      @@dad5draco ikr

    • @bubbleboi1122
      @bubbleboi1122 3 роки тому +4

      @@dad5draco :(

    • @shellyvision9693
      @shellyvision9693 3 роки тому +2

      That is very pogchamp profile picture.

    • @ThickSteven
      @ThickSteven 3 роки тому +4

      @@bubbleboi1122 you’ll always have a heart in our eyes

  • @TimeturnerJ
    @TimeturnerJ 3 роки тому +9

    I love this arc so much for all the character spotlights it gave us! 😆
    Especially for Silver and Espio. They were so good in this story.

  • @nibot2101
    @nibot2101 3 роки тому +6

    Cream is one of my favorite characters

  • @justageode
    @justageode 3 роки тому +3

    I like how Chaos Angel act 1 was used for Cream’s intro in this video!

  • @alvarosouza6456
    @alvarosouza6456 3 роки тому +5

    I still think that a zombotification meter would be an amazing addition to a sonic game, especially to an 2d or adventure style.
    Just imagine it stays in the far south left part of the screen,slowly building it up to 100% and every time you run it gets lower, but also, every time you hit a zombot it gets 0,009% faster, and you cannot stop it from going faster, because if you don't stop the zombots,your friends get transformed, and if you stop all of them, the next level is gonna be way harder.
    Of corse there could be a shop where you can buy from idk, tails maybe, some special rings that slow it by 1 or 2%
    Its never enough to keep you or the infection at bay, but its gonna be way easier way to deal with, just so it doesn't becomes impossible

    • @WhoKilledLily4
      @WhoKilledLily4 6 місяців тому +1

      If done right that could be a cool game mechanic

  • @L337M4573RK
    @L337M4573RK 3 роки тому +3

    If Charmy is now infected, does that mean that the metal virus is now officially "airborne"? Too soon?

  • @Kankan_Mahadi
    @Kankan_Mahadi 3 роки тому +4

    Breaks my heart a million times seeing Cream in that situation, but I'm impressed at what a strong character she's become.

  • @friendlycryptid6797
    @friendlycryptid6797 3 роки тому +3

    This just made me realize something- in theory wouldn't the metal virus be able to infect Chaos? (since they're a Chao).

  • @ThickSteven
    @ThickSteven 3 роки тому +10

    Oh thank god I’ve been waiting for this! Keep up the great work man!!

  • @AwdryFan1997
    @AwdryFan1997 3 роки тому +8

    Originally, I thought the concept of a "metal virus" was dumb, but now I'm kinda interested in the IDW comic. I've always liked Ian Flynn's work, it's just the SEGA mandates that got me disinterested.

    • @lynxfresh5214
      @lynxfresh5214 3 роки тому +5

      Agreed, I get Sega don't want another Ken Penders situation but going from one extreme (unsupervised creative control with Ken's fanfics) to another (corporate mandates that keep harassing the writers) is kinda ridiculous tbh.

  • @SilverJakler
    @SilverJakler 3 роки тому +2

    I remember hearing somewhere that even though the zombots don't eat or dismember their victims, the process of turning is extremely painful. If that's true then YIKES.

  • @GamerTowerDX
    @GamerTowerDX 3 роки тому +5

    Look at our little boy doing a sponsor segment! Im so proud of him!

  • @shadowopsairman1583
    @shadowopsairman1583 3 роки тому +4

    The Freedom Fighters need to be brought back, pre super genesis wave

    • @superhedgehog6447
      @superhedgehog6447 3 роки тому +1

      I agree, I wish they finish the pre super genesis wave story instead of ending it abruptly for the reboot.

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  3 роки тому +3

      Hopefully someday we'll get some Sega management that gives a damn about the extensive history of this franchise.

  • @NoNamex1412
    @NoNamex1412 3 роки тому +7

    1:00 "when me and my wife" Hol' up

    • @Hyper_Drud
      @Hyper_Drud 3 роки тому +2

      This isn’t the first time he’s mentioned his wife.

    • @AdmiralOctopus
      @AdmiralOctopus 3 роки тому +1

      @@Hyper_Drud Didn't his wife also have a speaking role in the Knuckles Chaotix video?

    • @Hyper_Drud
      @Hyper_Drud 3 роки тому +2

      @@AdmiralOctopus I believe so.

    • @NoNamex1412
      @NoNamex1412 3 роки тому +1

      @@AdmiralOctopus yea but like i don't remember him straight up saying it though

  • @PK-Radio
    @PK-Radio 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder how Vanilla feels being roommates with a robot packed with ammuniton that wont let anyone near her daughter

  • @MilesProwerStudios78
    @MilesProwerStudios78 3 роки тому +5

    How has Tails not been traumatized yet

  • @QueenofSilence101
    @QueenofSilence101 3 роки тому +1

    "Because he's a stupid idiot insect."
    Oh, that cracked me up.

  • @8-bitsarda747
    @8-bitsarda747 3 роки тому +3

    holy crap, I loved the Battle for Angel Island, but this is just on a whole 'nother level

  • @fours1524
    @fours1524 3 роки тому +2

    Ohhh boy.
    Shadow's the elephant in the room when it comes to these comics, I can't wait for you to talk about him because honestly?
    They massacred our boy.

  • @overse7938
    @overse7938 3 роки тому +2

    I always thaught that chao and chocola are made out of chaos energy, so its a tad but confusing for them to turn into a zombot

  • @shimshamjunior
    @shimshamjunior 3 роки тому +2

    I wonder if they're gonna have to stop one of the main characters from beating eggman to death for making this virus

  • @braydenb1581
    @braydenb1581 3 роки тому +2

    um, why does sonic run on grass, that would spread the infection

    • @GameApologist
      @GameApologist  3 роки тому +2

      They kinda address it later

    • @braydenb1581
      @braydenb1581 3 роки тому +1

      @@GameApologist mhmmm guess you'll have to prove me wrong by speeding up that next video :)
      I just bought volume 1 to 3 haha. My boy is super into sonic, and I used to be (well really only the Saturday morning cartoon, underground --- heaven knows why as it was awful, and Adventure 2... anyways his sonic searches on my phone got your channel in my time line just in time for Mecha Knuckles, and here we are. I am hooked. Keep er up!

  • @NoNamex1412
    @NoNamex1412 3 роки тому +8

    Look at our boy! He finally has a sponsor!

  • @jonasmcneal2382
    @jonasmcneal2382 Рік тому +2

    I actually don’t think Charmy was outta character-
    People seem to forget he’s just a kid with the best of intentions and ofc any little kid like that won’t think through there actions-
    So I normally cut him a break

  • @zirsos8610
    @zirsos8610 3 роки тому +2

    Children *exist*
    Ian flynn: and i took offense to that

  • @xudokai
    @xudokai 3 роки тому +3

    4:29 lmao that's the attack on titan lifestyle

  • @johnicthecronic3197
    @johnicthecronic3197 3 роки тому +3

    Personally I like to think of it as Sonic's 10 minute timer whenever you sit in one place for 10 minutes or you spend too long in the level you'll become a zombot. That's my idea anyways

  • @sonic5993
    @sonic5993 3 роки тому +4

    Hahahaha, you're gonna cover THAT issue next and I cannot wait.

  • @silverhero_gaming769
    @silverhero_gaming769 3 роки тому +7

    Did you know that the zombot perspective in cover b is the frist zombot that team chaotix meets and is the zombot that appears everywhere in the book even after espio trapped it the zombot was even both fighting Vector and espio at the docks and was infecting charmy at the same time well it just followed charmy then went back to espio and Vector

    • @silverhero_gaming769
      @silverhero_gaming769 3 роки тому

      Yep but that's the metal virus we lost so many even a rookie I think I know this is horrorfing but I want to see zombot rookie from the trailer which I think is main rookie and see an infinite and rookie mini series that then goes to the main story

  • @brunettebi4111
    @brunettebi4111 Рік тому +2

    Ah yes. My favorite conflict in storytelling.
    Traumatizing characters.

  • @iain1541
    @iain1541 3 роки тому +1

    Another great vid man, loving this arc and it makes me really want to start getting the idw comics so i can experience it in all its glory.

  • @treynobles
    @treynobles 3 роки тому +4

    My boy is getting sponsors!! Let’s gooooo! You deserve it bro! Nice freakin video as well my dude!

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM 3 роки тому

    Always good getting these summaries. These comics are such great depictions of the characters, so far

  • @prebuiltcomputer
    @prebuiltcomputer 3 роки тому +3

    I wasn't even listening to what you were saying, was busy jamming to the music 0:09

  • @thespookymage6294
    @thespookymage6294 3 роки тому +10

    Honestly after reading this whole arc, it cements to me why cream the rabbit is one of my favorite characters. She is just a little kid and probably the most innocent character in the entire franchise, but she is more of a hero then some of the main characters.

  • @goldenlightning8842
    @goldenlightning8842 3 роки тому

    Congrats on the sponsor dude seeing you take off more and more with each video is amazing

  • @hypersonic2756
    @hypersonic2756 3 роки тому +2

    Wait, if sonic was fully covered in metal would that make him Metal Sonic

  • @smbz7961
    @smbz7961 3 роки тому +2

    Smart Idea what if the time limit was how sonic died. For an example if you didn't complete the game in 10 minutes and you have 0 lives left you get a bad ending where Sonic turns into a zombot .

  • @KlubonTheBreadStickMan
    @KlubonTheBreadStickMan 3 роки тому +8

    LmAO i love that stupid face. 4:16 xDD

  • @hydrochloric007
    @hydrochloric007 3 роки тому +3

    Man, I'm starting to wish these comics had humans

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 роки тому +3

      Plus, I feel like human zombies would be more creepy then animal zombies