This ain't a knockOFF. And you know why? Because Solo IS the KnockOFF. They copied their first small stove from a small two person American company in Alaska: Bushbuddy. They did so knowing those guys had no money for a patent and to enforce it. They never asked for their permission, never offered any money. nothing! So whoever compete Solo, then GOOD THING!
@@AdventureswithSpackmann The guys at Bushbuddy should have gone bigger. They stayed very small and because of that have a turn over of 8 months! So I understand why some people goes for Solo. But if walmart has them now too, then I'll buy from Walmart just to frustrate Solo from getting my money :)
I’ve had the smallest Solostove (smaller than the one you demonstrated here) for several years, using it just for backpacking trips. It’s been a good stove, but I have to say there’s a learning curve involved. I would have no reservations about buying a Walmart/Ozark Trail version if they made a smaller one, because your vid proves they perform! Thanks for taking the time to do this test!
Charcoal chimney starters work good for camping stoves. Super cheap and they make folding ones as well. Cutting a hole in the side to feed it like a rocket stove is easy to do.
I made my own small stove from an Ozark Trail 16-Ounce Double-Wall Vacuum-Insulated Stainless Steel Food Jar. Used a dremel to cut the necessary holes. It costed me $10. I’ve had it for 3 years now and it’s still going strong.
@@AdventureswithSpackmann wow I guess I did. I didn’t realize it was your video lol. I just rewatched it right now. I used yours for inspiration, and I took a slightly different approach. I used a dremel cut-off wheel and it made the holes on the vertical walls way faster.
I know its a popular thing to bash Walmart but to be honest because of their cheap prices and surprisingly good products I started my camping journey last summer because I could afford it and I mean 70 bucks got me out there so I think I might be grabbing one of these stoves haha.
Just a friendly help / hint.. Flip all pot supports in.. and they will support smaller pots nicely. Next tip.. utilize a 12" - 16" stick for pot placement / removal. These tips will make your fire experiences far more enjoyable Brother.. hope that helps..!
The pot supports are flush with the hinges when flipped in and add no more room for support. Stick for removing and placing the pot is a great idea. Thanks for watching
I like using the inside drum of old washing machines for fire pits, very well suited to the task and often free, some of the drums have unintentional gasification designs just like the walmart fire pits.
I do too! Mine was sitting off to the left in this video. Showed it off last week. I’m shocked how well they work and how well it’s holding up. Thanks for watching
@@mrmicro22 nice! Any idea how a dryer drum compares to a washer drum? I’m currently using a washer drum. How’s the dryer one holding up after two years? Thanks for watching
I spent 2 hours with an air hammer putting holes in a dryer drum. I also burn 2 washer drums. My dryer drum burns much hotter, faster, and gets secondary burns going much better than my washer drums. I heat with fire wood and burn all my bark in my drums every fall into winter. Going on 2 years on my dryer drum but it's pretty rusty and almost burned out. Burn all 3 and sit/stand in the middle of the triangle and it's the perfect spot! Havent lit my firepit since I started making these 2 years ago! I have also made many more for friends and family........so many free washers and dryers on craigslist
@@jayjiang probably 50 times on this stove. I don’t leave it outside very often when raining or anything though. Other than soot and discoloration it looks as good as new.
I made a gasifier out of two stainless steel stock pots a number of years ago... Before solo made theirs. For a small fire pit, it was nice. A couple of things I discovered is these fire pits are not good for keeping warm. The metal shields most of the radiant heat so feet and legs can get chilly on cold evenings. Also, the wood needs to be below the top rim for them to gasifier properly. When everything is working, very little to no smoke, burn relatively hot, and will typically burn through fuel faster because the air flow is so much better. But totally agree, the flame pattern is awesome and relaxing to watch.
I’ve made a few gasifiers too. Never out of something as big as stock pots but smaller ones. I can see what you mean by the bottom not getting hot and radiating heat. Yup, burn pattern is so cool! Thanks for watching
If you (scuff up and) spray paint the outside of the inner SS stock pot and the inside and outside of the outer SS stock pot with high heat paint (the color doesn't actually matter much--that is misconception i.e. you don't *need* black), the IR will pass through much better. Shiny metal surfaces are good at reflecting IR. (Technically, you only really need to scuff up/paint the surfaces facing the heat source). The double wall on the other hand, does slightly increase the thermal insulation via reducing conduction and convection (the air layer in between is an insulator), so these won't ever give off as much heat as a single layer burner. But this is not as much as one might think, because once temps reach near 300 C/572 F, regular thermal conduction of air greatly increases and most of the heat tranfer or blocking will be via IR. * The paint will improve the heating of the metal significantly. Personally, the fuller and cleaner burn of these is worth the trade off of slightly less less radiant heat (once scuffed and paint treated). * To drive home this interesting principle, some researchers took wood and coated it with a special, highly efficient IR reflecting and very high heat coating (contains mostly zirconium oxide), and turned it into a working forge. You could touch the outside of the wood while it was running full blast and it would only feel slightly warm. I don't know if the rest of the wood was treated with fire retardants or not though (such as soaking it in a borax and boric acid solution, or the like).
@btrswt35 take an old stainless or steel lid for a pot, remove the handle and weld 3 or 4 support legs (2.5 -4" tall) onto it that fit in the flat spots of the "fire ring". This makes a heat diffuser that eliminates the issue of using them for heat and not getting enough heat. Solo sells em, but for nearly the same price the fire pit base costs😅.
I have a solo style stove that is slightly smaller so it is perfect for boiling water quick. I use it camping cuz I just use the twigs I can gather around camp and set it on the fire grate so I don’t burn a whole bundle of wood to make my breakfast. I’ve used it to fry up bacon and boil an egg as well as just make hot water. I’ve used it to make rice as well as pasta. Mac and cheese. It’s not great for grilling. So I have a firebox stove for grilling. Usually fire up both at camp so can cook two things at once.
Two burner twig stove sounds cool as heck. I like big fires so I usually cook on the site pit. It’s usually a pain in the rear and hot as h3ll to cook but I’m a sucker for it. Thanks for watching
Great video, new subscriber! Love your enthusiasm man! Great format; it’s awesome seeing someone posting reviews on some of the knockoff camping gear I’ve been looking into. Thanks for the review and keep up the great work!
For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.
@@AdventureswithSpackmann unfortunately not, they did join with ASDA and we had some really cool stuff during that time but they broke away almost 10 years ago and products slipped
I’ve been hesitant about the “knockoffs” since I saw them but considering the price and that most Ozark Trail products that I have purchased have held up pretty well, I’m sold. Great review. I subscribed. Thanks. Looking forward to watching more.
well if anything solo stove "Stole" the design from another person that called their version "the bushbuddy" which they then patented their "Design" basically making their "success" a scummy one at that so don't feel like you need to buy the name brand.
I bought one of these Ozark Trail smokeless fire pit grills after watching your video! and I really like it so far! I don't care that its a sorta knockoff of a knock off! I would buy the smaller one too, but I already have the Solo Stove Campfire.
Glad you enjoyed. But I do have sponsored videos. I’m as honest in those as I am in every other one. My two latest inflatable hot tent videos were sponsored and I was completely honest with how the tents are. Go check them out lol. Thanks for watching
Don't crap on the sponsors. They're a necessary evil otherwise it wouldn't be worth anyone's time doing these videos. Ppl have jobs and families. If you have no sponsors, then we don't get these videos.
The thing about a lot of Walmart brand stuff is that it WILL work especially if metal and follows a simple concept, the biggest concern is longevity and what might happen if you do something it was not designed for. They are typically made out of either thinner or lower quality metals, so it boils down really to your luck the day its parts were produced and how you use the item, so again there is the longevity issue. Main things I don't trust as much from them is anything spouting it's some kind of survival item, like those knives that have been around forever. And the tents unless I only plan on using them a few times in very ideal conditions or once or twice in mixed conditions for short term use.
I hear that. As for tents, I’ve used several for many many years and always recommend using a tarp but I say the same for any tent. Their instant tents are so cool. Thanks for watching
This is sort of off the point but anyway….several years ago I bought a small lo gas burner for under $100. So what? You can go outside and have an immediate fire and no ash, etc. for very list cost in lap. Very convenient and much more likely to use if you’re only sitting out for a short while.
I hear ya. I got a gas firepit a couple years ago but have only used it once. I prefer the real thing. It’s too cold here for the propane firepit most of the time. Thanks for watching
@@AdventureswithSpackmann I’m in the mid Atlantic and in late afternoon in spring and fall it’s pretty good. Wood fire is nicer but more fooling around is required.
@@butchie2752 I totally get it. I got mine so I didn’t have to fool around Everytime I wanted a fire. But I’m a fool and find myself fooling around too often lol.
Those look like a couple of good solid stoves right there man 👍 Can't beat the price too (well unless you're a DIYer like me, haha). Seriously... great look brother 👍 Loved that intro by the way 😂
Lol DIYing is always the way to go but right, can’t beat that price lol. Glad you liked the intro. How do you like the phrase, “worth the money or if the product’s just funny” ? Thanks for watching bro
@@AdventureswithSpackmann I definitely think you should use that line whenever you're doing a product review from now on 👌 It'd be your signature catch-phrase 👍 Always a pleasure by the way bro!
With the amount of SS involved, it would be hard to DIY it for significantly cheaper than what they cost. Sure, one can use things like soup cans (for the smaller one) and metal trash cans (for the larger), but the non stainless steel of these, rusts out pretty quick when exposed to these high temps. You can line them with refractory cement to prolong the life of these cheap steels, and get a better burn due to increased insulation. And really only the inner metal needs to be protected. The outer metal doesn't get exposed to high enough temps to super oxidize it. A cheaper and lighter option is to spray the inner metal with very high heat paint once in a while--this prolongs its life some as well.
@@justinw1765 Some great points right there my friend. It would be incredibly difficult indeed to build a DIY SS version of these on the cheap (without a bit of creativity at least). These are some pretty sweet stoves... especially considering their price point. I like your thinking/ideas on making a DIY version longer lasting by the way 👍
Was literally just talking about getting a gasification stove with my family this morning! Also considering making our own as well, would love it you made a video on that type of thing!
Make a video on making one? Bonfire size or camp cooking size? I’ve shown both actually. Bonfire size is wicked easy with a cloths washer drum. You don’t need to do anything to it. Camp size I made out of a double wall thermos. It worked well and I gave it away in a giveaway. Thanks for watching
The one I'm giving serious thought to is the even smaller one that takes a can of sterno. Perfect size for a "stuck in my car overnight in the winter" scenario.
I do a lot of wok cooking while camping, and the smaller stove would be perfect because of the heat output. Just need to see if the pot stands work well with a round bottom wok.
I picked up a genuine stainless Solo Stove Mesa (smaller version) never opened for less than $30 on eBay. That's an exceptionally good price, but you can also find good prices on a genuine solo stove. I don't buy for one second that Walmart's can even compare long haul. Amazon sells a stove grate that are 2 pieces as a knock off grate that works much better than the solo stove. You can use the Mesa and Mesa XL as stoves as well.
Nice video, I did purchase the Solo campfire stove. Also, have their forked roasting sticks for hotdogs or marshmallows, the tripod and the pot and pan bundle kit.
The burn count is funny. Burned whole hand 👏. Truthfulness of your videos is really refreshing enjoy your silly antics. Just found you tonight subbed... good job 👍 going to look up some older videos thanks.
This is what I've been saying all this time, there is always someone out there that wants to rip people off and over charge them for something that does not need to be expensive unless you got a lot of middle men in between making profits. This video shows you that you can save a lot of money and avoid giving your money to crooks that don't deserve it! Thanks for this video. 👍
I have the solo stoves and fire pits and Love them. I think it’s a stretch to call them crooks for pricing their product the way they have. Their quality and customer service is amazing. The beauty of an open market is there can be vendors who can be more competitive and market their version through various changes from the original (Suppliers, labor force, raw materials, etc). I’m not mad at them for that and we get more options.
Just what I was looking for at a fraction of the price of the Solo Stove. I had been researching this for a couple of weeks but did not to big bucks for Solo Stove. Thanks
If it works, that's good enough for SHTF situations! The bigger one would probably cook and produce enough heat for semi shelter outdoor warmth as long as it's not in a blizzard or below zero, worth the money in my opinion!
They fold in but don’t stop until they are flush with the hinges. Which doesn’t make them any longer for supporting a smaller container. Thanks for watching
I saw those in Walmart the last time I went and have to admit I was definitely curious. The experience I had with the insurance Walmart sold was, it wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. I hope that if you need to use it you will have much better luck than I did. The next thing will be if they hold up as well Solo stoves do. Thanks so much for sharing. God bless and stay safe.
It peaked my interest for sure. As for the insurance, that’s not nice to hear lol. If I do find out how it is, I hope I have a good experience. Thanks for watching
Walmart issuances kind of sucks, usually only can use it once the company product warranty expires, and sometimes they make sure you actually contacted the company one what process to go through before hand. When i bought couple of tv and electronic a fellow worker said it wasn't worth it, just so many steps to go through and just easy money grab. Sometimes Walmart wont even take issuance if you don't have the insurance paper receipt from the time you bought the product. Walmart is just hoping customers lose that paper, so they can get the extra cash.
@@Varnage Some stores would sell you the product, they would have all of the information, you would buy the warranty, they would never tell you, that YOU had to register it or it would not be covered, yet they have all the information, and I would get arrested for theft, but not them.
I see you're using the small one under the shelter, wondering if u think it would be safe to use under a canopy? For the heat and protection from rain, but also without burning the canopy top cover, or modding it to fit a real stove jack?
A fabric canopy? The small one should be fine in my non-expert opinion. I’ve had bonfires under tarps before. They have been fine except for the occasional spark hole. Also you can do anything once lol. Thanks for watching
...grdat vid ,,i was looking at these and wondered everything you covted and more thenks.... P.S. i recently learned that deep dish angled back lawn chair you're sitting on during your video are meant for sitting level on terrain such as a hill side watching an outdoor event.😉
@@AdventureswithSpackmann so the issue with this firepit is the hole in the bottom at too big for pellets, causing them to fall through and clog. I put a mesh metal screen on the flat bottom and took another flat mess peice, curled it like an empty toilet paper tube, and placed it upright in the middle (forms a donut)...this always for max air flow and true gasification
i remember when solo stove was doing a kickstarter.. for the tiny backpacking version. i might get one of these ozark versions for my gazebo. trouble is, we've been in the high 60's all month. so no point in a fire, just yet.
cant remember that guy's name.. but he didnt really invent anything, we were making wood burners out of 1 qt paint cans like 25 years ago. nice to see him take the company places, i guess. it was inevitable there'd be chinese knock-offs. @@AdventureswithSpackmann
Lol I brought the drip maker out just for you. I forgot it on my last trip so I used a beer can to make coffee. Lol I was expecting myself to grab it a second time too. Thanks for watching.
I got to say most of the Ozark trail stuff has been a great cheap back up to most name brand pricey equipment I still use my Ozark cooler from 2016 daily in every work truck and they all have the 52qt I think
Try out the Ohuhu camping stove. Smaller, so it fits in a backpack. Cheap, and seems nearly bullet proof. You can always find enough small sticks for fuel.
Hmmm you mean just fold them into the stove? If so, no, they are flush with the hinges so flipping them in doesn’t change the size. Thanks for watching
@@AdventureswithSpackmann too bad they didn’t make them so the stopped half way so you could fit a smaller pot/cup. I’ll go to China and see what I can do 😜😜
Out of shear curiosity, I bought the first one a few days before this was uploaded, you're literally the only review I could find lol. My question is, the actual pan with the vents that sits over the ash tray doesn't seem to connect to the top ring and my jet is in the middle rather than the top. Possible defect? Yours appeared to be pretty closely connected internally and got that nice jet effect at the top just under the ring. I may have to tinker with it some more but all in all, I've enjoyed the hell out of it. Great review!
If you can’t figure out how to fit it properly, I would agree, defect. Definitely go exchange it asap before they are gone. When they are fully connected the burn chamber should fully extent past the upper section when lifted up, as you can see in the video when I took it apart. Thanks for watching
A bit high flame with the smal one. Maybe the holes on the bottom are too big. But that can be regulated with a steel mash that collect the ash better and the airflow get restrictet after some burningtime. Have two small clean burning ovens, one has bigger holes in the bottom than the other. The one with big holes are a beast for burning big dry pieces (compered for its chambervolume) and burn semidry materials well. The one with smaller holes are very efficient when you burn short dry chunks, but get clogged after a while if you use bigger chunk, og smoke like hell if you try to burn damp or semidry materials. None are best, I choose one of them after conditions and what I plan to burn.
@AdventureswithSpackmann. Cool review.I'm not surprised by all the comments on not giving Solo Stove any of their money but...but... people you're commenting on a UA-cam video on UA-cam,how about not giving any of these companies your money and make your own gasification stove.Plenty of video on the how to guess where,oh yeah that's right on UA-cam.Save your money you already have what you need in used cans.All the best to you all who read this.
How deep is the larger stove? One major problem I have found with the Solo Stove Ranger is that it won't fit a standard piece of firewood below the lip of the stove which causes it to smoke more than it should.
I may get both of these actually. The flame on that smaller one was no JOKE, I like that, kinda like a mini bonfire....but I'll be giving it a wide 4 foot safe zone in case of wind.
Lmao holy cow! Just googled it and you’re right. Smokey the Bear comes from the song but his name is Smokey Bear lol. Glad you enjoyed the show. Thanks for watching
This ain't a knockOFF. And you know why? Because Solo IS the KnockOFF. They copied their first small stove from a small two person American company in Alaska: Bushbuddy. They did so knowing those guys had no money for a patent and to enforce it. They never asked for their permission, never offered any money. nothing! So whoever compete Solo, then GOOD THING!
Heck yeah! True and sad. Bushbuddy is still around but solo total stole their thunder. Thanks for watching
@@AdventureswithSpackmann The guys at Bushbuddy should have gone bigger. They stayed very small and because of that have a turn over of 8 months! So I understand why some people goes for Solo. But if walmart has them now too, then I'll buy from Walmart just to frustrate Solo from getting my money :)
@@DiabloOutdoors lol heck yeah
This exactly. Eff Solo Stove.
It's just a wood gasifier. They've been around since the 19th century....
I’ve had the smallest Solostove (smaller than the one you demonstrated here) for several years, using it just for backpacking trips. It’s been a good stove, but I have to say there’s a learning curve involved. I would have no reservations about buying a Walmart/Ozark Trail version if they made a smaller one, because your vid proves they perform! Thanks for taking the time to do this test!
You’re welcome! I want them to make a smaller version cause this one is a little big. Thanks for watching
I just saw a smaller one on Walmart site for $39.00 7"
Yes they do have a smaller one. I saw one in the camping aisle. I think it was $39. No brainer
Yeah they sell both on the site.
Ohuhu and other chinese brands make smaller versions that work quite well (also SS) and which typically range from around 15 to 25 dollars.
Charcoal chimney starters work good for camping stoves. Super cheap and they make folding ones as well. Cutting a hole in the side to feed it like a rocket stove is easy to do.
I’ve actually been thinking about making one of those! Great idea. Thanks for watching
I made my own small stove from an Ozark Trail 16-Ounce Double-Wall Vacuum-Insulated Stainless Steel Food Jar. Used a dremel to cut the necessary holes. It costed me $10. I’ve had it for 3 years now and it’s still going strong.
Did you make it from my diy $10 solo stove video? Thanks for watching
I have gasification
@@AdventureswithSpackmann wow I guess I did. I didn’t realize it was your video lol. I just rewatched it right now. I used yours for inspiration, and I took a slightly different approach. I used a dremel cut-off wheel and it made the holes on the vertical walls way faster.
@ViralChubb lol nice!
Super cool
I know its a popular thing to bash Walmart but to be honest because of their cheap prices and surprisingly good products I started my camping journey last summer because I could afford it and I mean 70 bucks got me out there so I think I might be grabbing one of these stoves haha.
Bro exactly! People bash their gear but for under a hundred bucks it got you out and camping!!!! That’s awesome. Thanks for watching
I have the same stove and it's great! Used it probably 40 times no issues.
Let's not act like WalMart has good quality. But good enough is good enough.
Just a friendly help / hint..
Flip all pot supports in.. and they will support smaller pots nicely.
Next tip.. utilize a 12" - 16" stick for pot placement / removal. These tips will make your fire experiences far more enjoyable Brother.. hope that helps..!
The pot supports are flush with the hinges when flipped in and add no more room for support. Stick for removing and placing the pot is a great idea. Thanks for watching
I like using the inside drum of old washing machines for fire pits, very well suited to the task and often free, some of the drums have unintentional gasification designs just like the walmart fire pits.
I do too! Mine was sitting off to the left in this video. Showed it off last week. I’m shocked how well they work and how well it’s holding up. Thanks for watching
2 years out of a dryer drum.
@@mrmicro22 nice! Any idea how a dryer drum compares to a washer drum? I’m currently using a washer drum. How’s the dryer one holding up after two years? Thanks for watching
I spent 2 hours with an air hammer putting holes in a dryer drum. I also burn 2 washer drums. My dryer drum burns much hotter, faster, and gets secondary burns going much better than my washer drums. I heat with fire wood and burn all my bark in my drums every fall into winter. Going on 2 years on my dryer drum but it's pretty rusty and almost burned out. Burn all 3 and sit/stand in the middle of the triangle and it's the perfect spot! Havent lit my firepit since I started making these 2 years ago! I have also made many more for friends and family........so many free washers and dryers on craigslist
A burning triangle of fire! That’s awesome. Thanks for letting me know your experience with the drums. Thanks for watching
I have the small one and use it almost daily! Awesome little stove for a single nomad!
Awesome! Great feedback. Thanks for watching
How long you've been burning via it? I also burn often, and already burned through two solo stove, one maybe last about 100 burns only.
@@jayjiang probably 50 times on this stove. I don’t leave it outside very often when raining or anything though. Other than soot and discoloration it looks as good as new.
I made a gasifier out of two stainless steel stock pots a number of years ago... Before solo made theirs. For a small fire pit, it was nice. A couple of things I discovered is these fire pits are not good for keeping warm. The metal shields most of the radiant heat so feet and legs can get chilly on cold evenings. Also, the wood needs to be below the top rim for them to gasifier properly. When everything is working, very little to no smoke, burn relatively hot, and will typically burn through fuel faster because the air flow is so much better. But totally agree, the flame pattern is awesome and relaxing to watch.
I’ve made a few gasifiers too. Never out of something as big as stock pots but smaller ones. I can see what you mean by the bottom not getting hot and radiating heat.
Yup, burn pattern is so cool! Thanks for watching
If you (scuff up and) spray paint the outside of the inner SS stock pot and the inside and outside of the outer SS stock pot with high heat paint (the color doesn't actually matter much--that is misconception i.e. you don't *need* black), the IR will pass through much better. Shiny metal surfaces are good at reflecting IR. (Technically, you only really need to scuff up/paint the surfaces facing the heat source).
The double wall on the other hand, does slightly increase the thermal insulation via reducing conduction and convection (the air layer in between is an insulator), so these won't ever give off as much heat as a single layer burner. But this is not as much as one might think, because once temps reach near 300 C/572 F, regular thermal conduction of air greatly increases and most of the heat tranfer or blocking will be via IR. * The paint will improve the heating of the metal significantly.
Personally, the fuller and cleaner burn of these is worth the trade off of slightly less less radiant heat (once scuffed and paint treated).
* To drive home this interesting principle, some researchers took wood and coated it with a special, highly efficient IR reflecting and very high heat coating (contains mostly zirconium oxide), and turned it into a working forge. You could touch the outside of the wood while it was running full blast and it would only feel slightly warm. I don't know if the rest of the wood was treated with fire retardants or not though (such as soaking it in a borax and boric acid solution, or the like).
@@justinw1765 awesome suggestion and comment! Thanks for the information.
@@btrswt35 You're very welcome.
@btrswt35 take an old stainless or steel lid for a pot, remove the handle and weld 3 or 4 support legs (2.5 -4" tall) onto it that fit in the flat spots of the "fire ring".
This makes a heat diffuser that eliminates the issue of using them for heat and not getting enough heat. Solo sells em, but for nearly the same price the fire pit base costs😅.
I just checked on their website:
7 inch is $39
15 inch is $97
not bad!
Nice! Thanks for watching
I just picked up the small one the other day! Can't wait to try it, looks like it would be extremely efficient for cooking
Definitely hot enough to cook lol. Thanks for watching
Thanks I'm going to check these out next Walmart trip👍
Enjoy. Thanks for watching
I have a solo style stove that is slightly smaller so it is perfect for boiling water quick. I use it camping cuz I just use the twigs I can gather around camp and set it on the fire grate so I don’t burn a whole bundle of wood to make my breakfast. I’ve used it to fry up bacon and boil an egg as well as just make hot water. I’ve used it to make rice as well as pasta. Mac and cheese. It’s not great for grilling. So I have a firebox stove for grilling. Usually fire up both at camp so can cook two things at once.
Two burner twig stove sounds cool as heck. I like big fires so I usually cook on the site pit. It’s usually a pain in the rear and hot as h3ll to cook but I’m a sucker for it. Thanks for watching
As someone who loves campfires but whose allergies act up around smoke, these look worth looking into
Oh that’s a great point. They aren’t always smokeless but for the most part they are. Thanks for watching
We are full time RV'r. I've been happy with Ozark trail products
I’m happy with most of their gear too! Thanks for watching
Awesome video. I had been thinking about this, since storm Ian destroyed SW FL last Oct. Thank u for proving these stoves work well on a budget price
You’re welcome. Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching
Great video, new subscriber! Love your enthusiasm man! Great format; it’s awesome seeing someone posting reviews on some of the knockoff camping gear I’ve been looking into. Thanks for the review and keep up the great work!
Glad you enjoyed! Thank you for the kind words and for watching
For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.
Thanks for watching
They look pretty cool and value for money. The bigger one doubling as a bbq is pretty cool too
Heck yeah man. You got Walmart over there? Thanks for watching
@@AdventureswithSpackmann unfortunately not, they did join with ASDA and we had some really cool stuff during that time but they broke away almost 10 years ago and products slipped
@@chriscjjones8182 darn
I’ve been hesitant about the “knockoffs” since I saw them but considering the price and that most Ozark Trail products that I have purchased have held up pretty well, I’m sold. Great review. I subscribed. Thanks. Looking forward to watching more.
I don’t think you will be disappointed considering the price of them. Glad you enjoyed. Welcome to the channel. Thanks for watching
well if anything solo stove "Stole" the design from another person that called their version "the bushbuddy" which they then patented their "Design" basically making their "success" a scummy one at that so don't feel like you need to buy the name brand.
@@Horde334 for sure. I only used solo stove to compare it cause no one knows the bushbuddy unfortunately. Thanks for watching
I like my Tomshoo gasification stove. It can fit any pot and will fit inside of an MSR 775ml seagull pot. I picked it up years ago for $20
I have that stove as well. Good little stove. Thanks for watching
I bought one of these Ozark Trail smokeless fire pit grills after watching your video! and I really like it so far! I don't care that its a sorta knockoff of a knock off! I would buy the smaller one too, but I already have the Solo Stove Campfire.
Awesome to hear! Glad you like it. Thanks for watching
First time seeing your page and I have to say, I like your reviews…your reviews are honest and simple…not full of shameless plugs to get sponsors
Glad you enjoyed. But I do have sponsored videos. I’m as honest in those as I am in every other one. My two latest inflatable hot tent videos were sponsored and I was completely honest with how the tents are. Go check them out lol. Thanks for watching
Don't crap on the sponsors. They're a necessary evil otherwise it wouldn't be worth anyone's time doing these videos. Ppl have jobs and families. If you have no sponsors, then we don't get these videos.
@@sg5587 heck yeah, I take every sponsorship I can. Keep them all honest. Thanks for watching
I just ordered a backpack sized one branded gasone. You can also use wood pellets in them. Which works for me as I use a pellet smoker as well.
You can use pellets. If the holes are too small you may need to add a bottom plate to stop them from falling through. Thanks for watching
Thanks for this vid man. We have a popup camper with limited space. This item here is a great fit for our PUP.
Oh yeah it’s great for limited space. You’re welcome and thanks for watching
Enjoy watching your videos. Your cool and laid-back.
Thank you so much!
I love you so much! I recently just found your kislux and i’m in love!! Your videos are so fun and you energy is just MWAH! keep living your life
Thanks for watching
My Lixada gasification stove was under $20 and I can use a cup or fry pan or teapot and is about half the size.
Collapsible right? I have a couple collapsible ones too. Thanks for watching
I bought one last week. Works great! Well worth the money!!!
Solid feedback! Thanks for sharing your experience.
you’re literally my comfort person i love you kislux !
So glad to hear it! Thanks for watching
Good review. Thanks.
May pick up that stove at the wal-mart.
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Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching
I got a Members Mark 22” smokeless pit from Sams Club for $199 and it’s awesome. Only smokes a little if the wood is too moist at startup.
I’ll have to check it out. Thanks for watching
These style stoves are so neat. Looks good filming under the new shelter.
Yeah they are man. And I agree, I’m liking the new scenery. Thanks for watching
My wife and I live completely off grid. We will be investing in both.
Nice! How long have you guys been off grid? What do you stay in? Thanks for watching
You convinced me I'm going to buy one of the larger ones. I have several wood gasifier stoves and I love them all
Heck yeah! It’s a sweet stove. Hope you enjoy. Thanks for watching
The thing about a lot of Walmart brand stuff is that it WILL work especially if metal and follows a simple concept, the biggest concern is longevity and what might happen if you do something it was not designed for. They are typically made out of either thinner or lower quality metals, so it boils down really to your luck the day its parts were produced and how you use the item, so again there is the longevity issue. Main things I don't trust as much from them is anything spouting it's some kind of survival item, like those knives that have been around forever. And the tents unless I only plan on using them a few times in very ideal conditions or once or twice in mixed conditions for short term use.
I hear that. As for tents, I’ve used several for many many years and always recommend using a tarp but I say the same for any tent. Their instant tents are so cool. Thanks for watching
This is sort of off the point but anyway….several years ago I bought a small lo gas burner for under $100. So what? You can go outside and have an immediate fire and no ash, etc. for very list cost in lap. Very convenient and much more likely to use if you’re only sitting out for a short while.
I hear ya. I got a gas firepit a couple years ago but have only used it once. I prefer the real thing. It’s too cold here for the propane firepit most of the time. Thanks for watching
@@AdventureswithSpackmann I’m in the mid Atlantic and in late afternoon in spring and fall it’s pretty good. Wood fire is nicer but more fooling around is required.
@@butchie2752 I totally get it. I got mine so I didn’t have to fool around Everytime I wanted a fire. But I’m a fool and find myself fooling around too often lol.
I just did a short on the solo stove mesa xl. I was quite impressed.
The small table top one? Thanks for watching
@@AdventureswithSpackmann yeah. Works great on pellets. It was a pain to keep it fed with kindling
@@OutdoorTherapyYT I could imagine it was.
Been looking for a solo stove for a while and now at this price and your review I will be purchasing
Nice! Which size? Thanks for watching
Those look like a couple of good solid stoves right there man 👍 Can't beat the price too (well unless you're a DIYer like me, haha). Seriously... great look brother 👍
Loved that intro by the way 😂
Lol DIYing is always the way to go but right, can’t beat that price lol. Glad you liked the intro. How do you like the phrase, “worth the money or if the product’s just funny” ? Thanks for watching bro
@@AdventureswithSpackmann I definitely think you should use that line whenever you're doing a product review from now on 👌 It'd be your signature catch-phrase 👍
Always a pleasure by the way bro!
With the amount of SS involved, it would be hard to DIY it for significantly cheaper than what they cost. Sure, one can use things like soup cans (for the smaller one) and metal trash cans (for the larger), but the non stainless steel of these, rusts out pretty quick when exposed to these high temps. You can line them with refractory cement to prolong the life of these cheap steels, and get a better burn due to increased insulation. And really only the inner metal needs to be protected. The outer metal doesn't get exposed to high enough temps to super oxidize it. A cheaper and lighter option is to spray the inner metal with very high heat paint once in a while--this prolongs its life some as well.
@@justinw1765 Some great points right there my friend. It would be incredibly difficult indeed to build a DIY SS version of these on the cheap (without a bit of creativity at least). These are some pretty sweet stoves... especially considering their price point. I like your thinking/ideas on making a DIY version longer lasting by the way 👍
@@IntenseAngler Cheers
Will be picking these up!!! I love me a good fire out in the back yard that I can cook on.
Nice! Hope you enjoy them. Thanks for watching
Was literally just talking about getting a gasification stove with my family this morning! Also considering making our own as well, would love it you made a video on that type of thing!
Make a video on making one? Bonfire size or camp cooking size? I’ve shown both actually. Bonfire size is wicked easy with a cloths washer drum. You don’t need to do anything to it. Camp size I made out of a double wall thermos. It worked well and I gave it away in a giveaway. Thanks for watching
Hard to tell from the pics, but on the small backpacking stove do the pot supports fold in to support a smaller pot or cup.
They fold in but flush with the hinges so they don’t help to support a smaller pot. Thanks for watching
The one I'm giving serious thought to is the even smaller one that takes a can of sterno. Perfect size for a "stuck in my car overnight in the winter" scenario.
Hmmm great idea. Thanks for watching
I bought an ohuhu small camping gasification stove on Amazon about 5 years ago. It was $18 then and it’s $18 now. Works great and it’s collapsible.
That’s awesome. I have a couple like that one. Thanks for watching
Rub most of exterior of pots w lye soap. Soot will wash off easy at endbof trip.
Good idea. Thanks for watching
I have been looking at the larger one at Walmart...your video convinced me to get one
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching
I do a lot of wok cooking while camping, and the smaller stove would be perfect because of the heat output. Just need to see if the pot stands work well with a round bottom wok.
Heck yeah. Thanks for watching
Great job. Super enjoyable, im very glad to have found these videos.
So glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video! I'll see if my Wal-Mart has one, and if so, I'll buy it and try it! Have a fantastic week, Sir.
You’re welcome! Have a fantastic week too. Thanks for watching
I picked up a genuine stainless Solo Stove Mesa (smaller version) never opened for less than $30 on eBay. That's an exceptionally good price, but you can also find good prices on a genuine solo stove. I don't buy for one second that Walmart's can even compare long haul. Amazon sells a stove grate that are 2 pieces as a knock off grate that works much better than the solo stove. You can use the Mesa and Mesa XL as stoves as well.
That is a great price! I think I saw them in store for $100! Nice find. Thanks for watching
Ok you had my attention being a firebug type with a burn count. I do like the larger solo type fire pit. Both solo stove knockoffs look fun.
Welcome to the burn counters my friend! Thanks for watching
Nice video, I did purchase the Solo campfire stove. Also, have their forked roasting sticks for hotdogs or marshmallows, the tripod and the pot and pan bundle kit.
Oh the whole kit is cool. A full backyard bbq setup. Thanks for watching
I got a smaller knockoff version of the solo stove. quite cool, but it doesn't really give off heat to the side..just straight up.
Yes the double wall kinda insulated the sides. Thanks for watching
You convinced me. Think I'll get both of them too. Will let you know if I burn myself more than twice. Thanks!
Can’t wait to hear your count lol. Thanks for watching
The burn count is funny. Burned whole hand 👏. Truthfulness of your videos is really refreshing enjoy your silly antics. Just found you tonight subbed... good job 👍 going to look up some older videos thanks.
So glad you enjoyed! Thanks for subscribing. Last weeks video was hilarious in my opinion. You should check it out. lol. Thanks for watching
Unapologetic laughter in the face of dangerous harmful burns to self?! Immediately subscribing. Spackman gets the W!
Lol burn counts for win! Thanks for watching and thanks for subscribing
This is what I've been saying all this time, there is always someone out there that wants to rip people off and over charge them for something that does not need to be expensive unless you got a lot of middle men in between making profits. This video shows you that you can save a lot of money and avoid giving your money to crooks that don't deserve it! Thanks for this video. 👍
Amen brother! You’re welcome and thanks for watching
I have the solo stoves and fire pits and Love them. I think it’s a stretch to call them crooks for pricing their product the way they have. Their quality and customer service is amazing. The beauty of an open market is there can be vendors who can be more competitive and market their version through various changes from the original (Suppliers, labor force, raw materials, etc). I’m not mad at them for that and we get more options.
@@rosapdl great points. If it cost them more to make they have to charge more right. Thanks for watching
Just what I was looking for at a fraction of the price of the Solo Stove. I had been researching this for a couple of weeks but did not to big bucks for Solo Stove. Thanks
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
If it works, that's good enough for SHTF situations! The bigger one would probably cook and produce enough heat for semi shelter outdoor warmth as long as it's not in a blizzard or below zero, worth the money in my opinion!
Yeah pretty sweet. Thanks for watching
If the pot supports fold inwards then wouldn't it be able to support a smaller size container then?
They fold in but don’t stop until they are flush with the hinges. Which doesn’t make them any longer for supporting a smaller container. Thanks for watching
I saw those in Walmart the last time I went and have to admit I was definitely curious. The experience I had with the insurance Walmart sold was, it wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. I hope that if you need to use it you will have much better luck than I did. The next thing will be if they hold up as well Solo stoves do. Thanks so much for sharing. God bless and stay safe.
It peaked my interest for sure. As for the insurance, that’s not nice to hear lol. If I do find out how it is, I hope I have a good experience. Thanks for watching
Nothing like paying 10 dollars so you can wait in a Hugh line and argue with an WalMart employee.
@Moondoggy1941 lol oh what fun that is. Thanks for watching
Walmart issuances kind of sucks, usually only can use it once the company product warranty expires, and sometimes they make sure you actually contacted the company one what process to go through before hand. When i bought couple of tv and electronic a fellow worker said it wasn't worth it, just so many steps to go through and just easy money grab. Sometimes Walmart wont even take issuance if you don't have the insurance paper receipt from the time you bought the product. Walmart is just hoping customers lose that paper, so they can get the extra cash.
@@Varnage Some stores would sell you the product, they would have all of the information, you would buy the warranty, they would never tell you, that YOU had to register it or it would not be covered, yet they have all the information, and I would get arrested for theft, but not them.
Thanks for the review. It helped me make a decision in getting one.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
I see you're using the small one under the shelter, wondering if u think it would be safe to use under a canopy? For the heat and protection from rain, but also without burning the canopy top cover, or modding it to fit a real stove jack?
A fabric canopy? The small one should be fine in my non-expert opinion. I’ve had bonfires under tarps before. They have been fine except for the occasional spark hole. Also you can do anything once lol. Thanks for watching
I wonder if they will make accessories for the bond fire version like the heat radiator that solo makes
Not yet. Thanks for watching
I purchased a Solo compact stove about 8 years ago for only $25.
Thanks Dems!
Wow, crazy. How’s it holding up? Thanks for watching
@@AdventureswithSpackmann
Still unused. It's for SHTF.
@WhatDadIsUpTo usually, people will test out their SHTF kit before packing it away.
...grdat vid ,,i was looking at these and wondered everything you covted and more thenks.... P.S. i recently learned that deep dish angled back lawn chair you're sitting on during your video are meant for sitting level on terrain such as a hill side watching an outdoor event.😉
Was I sitting in an Adirondack chair? Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching
Bought one cuz of u...i put hardware clothe on the bottom so i can use pellets...also added a center ring to increase airflow.
A center ring? Please explain. How do you like it so far, big one or smaller one? Thanks for watching
@@AdventureswithSpackmann so the issue with this firepit is the hole in the bottom at too big for pellets, causing them to fall through and clog. I put a mesh metal screen on the flat bottom and took another flat mess peice, curled it like an empty toilet paper tube, and placed it upright in the middle (forms a donut)...this always for max air flow and true gasification
@@wheredidileavemycell ahhh I get it now. Nice
i remember when solo stove was doing a kickstarter.. for the tiny backpacking version.
i might get one of these ozark versions for my gazebo. trouble is, we've been in the high 60's all month. so no point in a fire, just yet.
I remember too. Much cheaper then right? Thanks for watching
cant remember that guy's name.. but he didnt really invent anything, we were making wood burners out of 1 qt paint cans like 25 years ago. nice to see him take the company places, i guess. it was inevitable there'd be chinese knock-offs. @@AdventureswithSpackmann
Trademark pending… classic. I held my breath wondering if you were going to touch the teapot handle a second time and use instant coffee.
Lol I brought the drip maker out just for you. I forgot it on my last trip so I used a beer can to make coffee. Lol I was expecting myself to grab it a second time too. Thanks for watching.
I got to say most of the Ozark trail stuff has been a great cheap back up to most name brand pricey equipment I still use my Ozark cooler from 2016 daily in every work truck and they all have the 52qt I think
I have a lot of OT gear that are my primary equipment. Including a cooler too lol. Thanks for watching
Wow... Thank you for this video! This is some good information that I'm definitely going to look into. 👍😁
Glad you found it useful! Thanks for watching
My husband works for himself as an appliance repair man. He made me a firepit from an old washer tub.
I have the same firepit too! It was sitting right on the left side lol. They work so well! Thanks for watching
Thanks for the review! Definitely will be grabbing ones soon.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
So if these pot supports fold in, then it can fit a smaller pot or a large cup
When they fold in they are flush with the hinges so it doesn’t add anything to them as far as space to hold a cup or pot.
Those are awesome I have the solo table stove it's fin but can't put anything on it. Going to purchase one of the small ones good looking out
They are pretty sweet for the money! Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video , I got the small one but haven't used it yet
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
Didn’t know they had them. Rather cool.
Great video bud.
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching
Very cool, thanks Chris Spackmann! Love your videos!
Thank you bro!
Lol! A knockoff of a knockoff! Solo Stove knocked off bush buddy years ago.
Sure did! Thanks for watching
Try out the Ohuhu camping stove. Smaller, so it fits in a backpack. Cheap, and seems nearly bullet proof. You can always find enough small sticks for fuel.
I’ll take a look. Thanks for watching
I'll be buying one I could never find myself to pay solo's crazy price for a fire pit but always liked it.
For real, so expensive. Everything is these days. Thanks for watching
I’m thinking if you flip the pot holders in on the little stove, you could use a cup?
Hmmm you mean just fold them into the stove? If so, no, they are flush with the hinges so flipping them in doesn’t change the size. Thanks for watching
@@AdventureswithSpackmann too bad they didn’t make them so the stopped half way so you could fit a smaller pot/cup. I’ll go to China and see what I can do 😜😜
Out of shear curiosity, I bought the first one a few days before this was uploaded, you're literally the only review I could find lol. My question is, the actual pan with the vents that sits over the ash tray doesn't seem to connect to the top ring and my jet is in the middle rather than the top. Possible defect? Yours appeared to be pretty closely connected internally and got that nice jet effect at the top just under the ring. I may have to tinker with it some more but all in all, I've enjoyed the hell out of it. Great review!
Mine fits together nicely, i would say just go exchange it but where i live they aren't really on the shelves.....people are buying em up pretty quick
If you can’t figure out how to fit it properly, I would agree, defect. Definitely go exchange it asap before they are gone. When they are fully connected the burn chamber should fully extent past the upper section when lifted up, as you can see in the video when I took it apart. Thanks for watching
A bit high flame with the smal one. Maybe the holes on the bottom are too big. But that can be regulated with a steel mash that collect the ash better and the airflow get restrictet after some burningtime. Have two small clean burning ovens, one has bigger holes in the bottom than the other. The one with big holes are a beast for burning big dry pieces (compered for its chambervolume) and burn semidry materials well. The one with smaller holes are very efficient when you burn short dry chunks, but get clogged after a while if you use bigger chunk, og smoke like hell if you try to burn damp or semidry materials. None are best, I choose one of them after conditions and what I plan to burn.
It was a big flame. Not sure if that was too much air or too much material. Great points. Thanks for watching
@AdventureswithSpackmann. Cool review.I'm not surprised by all the comments on not giving Solo Stove any of their money but...but... people you're commenting on a UA-cam video on UA-cam,how about not giving any of these companies your money and make your own gasification stove.Plenty of video on the how to guess where,oh yeah that's right on UA-cam.Save your money you already have what you need in used cans.All the best to you all who read this.
Glad you enjoyed the review. Best of wishes to you as well. Thanks for watching
I just got one last week I love it works very nice 👌
Which one did you get? Thanks for watching
@AdventureswithSpackmann what is that dripper/coffee maker you're using in this video please?
It’s made by Fozzil. They make a bunch of food flat cookware. Thanks for watching
I like the small one. Useful, good price.
Right! Thanks for watching
How deep is the larger stove? One major problem I have found with the Solo Stove Ranger is that it won't fit a standard piece of firewood below the lip of the stove which causes it to smoke more than it should.
Over all height is just over 17 inches so it won’t fit an 18” piece either. Thanks for watching
I saw these mock solo stoves on temu. I bet they are the same. Thanks for the review
Bet they are very close. Thanks for watching
I put a small grill over mine that I picked up awhile back...
Nice! I love cooking over a fire. Thanks for watching
I may get both of these actually. The flame on that smaller one was no JOKE, I like that, kinda like a mini bonfire....but I'll be giving it a wide 4 foot safe zone in case of wind.
lol good idea. Thanks for watching
My experience with Ozark Trails Outdoor Products has been extremely positive. They tend to be on a par with name brands, at a fraction of the cost.
Same. I love so many of their products. Thanks for watching
I wish more of these style stoves had a deflector plate to bounce heat down and sideways. So much heat wasted going straight up
Making one wouldn’t be that hard or modifying solos reflector would be even less hard to fit this or other stoves. Thanks for watching
Dude totally enjoyed your show about the cat stoves. Just one correction it's smokey bear not smokey the bear.
Lmao holy cow! Just googled it and you’re right. Smokey the Bear comes from the song but his name is Smokey Bear lol. Glad you enjoyed the show. Thanks for watching
Just found your channel, like what I see so far. Subscribed!
Glad you liked it! Welcome to the channel. There are some good videos here lol. Thanks for watching
Cool video, I'm really excited to get one! Thaks
Yw. Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching
I have an American made Breeo. Expensive, but nice.
A few people have mentioned the Breeo. Thanks for watching
Oh, I don’t know. I assumed they would’ve had a tabletop knock off also but maybe not. But great video I enjoyed it.
Not that I saw. Glad you enjoyed it!