Snowspeeders Are GREY (And Always Have Been)
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Is Slugger talking about Star Wars again?? Indeed he is! Today we take a deeper look at set 7130 and the history of the LEGO Snowspeeder!
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If we could just keep all of the “hOw CouLd YoU nOt LikE eMpiRe??!” comments as replies to this chain, that would be great. It’s easier to ignore replies than it is standalone comments. 😉
K thanks!
HOW COULD YOU NOT LIKE EMPIRE
hOw cOulD yOu nOt liKe tHe eMPiRE? ImPeRiALiZm aNd fAsCiZm iZ cOoL!
hOw CouLd YoU nOt LikE eMpiRe
hOw CouLd YoU nOt LikE eMpiRe??
hOw CouLd YoU nOt LikE eMpiRe??
The Slug-O-Meter for ESB definitely needed the Hot Take slide aswell
Came here to post this
1000%
Yeah wtf? That's like the only good movie. 🤷🏻♀️
That movie sucks though
A take so hot it could thaw out all of Hoth
As a member in the 501st legion (the costuming group) who has multiple screen accurate costumes, it becomes quickly apparent that color in Star Wars (and films in general) can be extremely variable, and what we see on screen is often not the actual color of the prop/model/costume. You mention that star destroyers are grey here, but the several of the shooting models are closer to an off-white than a light grey. The primer they used for the ship was actually off-white, but the weathering passes darkened it a bit, but it varies from each film and model used so its actually a range between the two colors throughout the films. But to bring it back to lego here, the mini figures for the newest AT-AT walker sets make no sense to me. I'll explain:
The AT-AT drivers look white on screen, however the actual costumes were painted light grey (one of the original helmets has been preserved so we know the exact color for a fact). They look white on screen because the huge studio lights blow out the color on such a light grey, in fact, that's why they were painted grey, because the white helmets would have overexposed and blown out the image. So they are actually grey, but meant to, and look, white on camera. So the original minifig was white to reflect on screen and the new ones a light grey to be accurate to the prop. Makes sense so far, I prefer the accuracy to the filming props over on screen apperance.
But then we get to General Veers in the same scene. Now the ESB scenes on Hoth were color-graded colder (in terms of color not actual degrees temperature) this is pretty standard for films to do for what is meant to portray physically cold environments. The opposite is true for hot environments, hence the "Mexico orange" cliche. This color grading for Hoth on ESB makes the snowy planet "feel colder" by giving the image a slightly blue tint to the image. The actual costume for General Veers, and other imperial officers, is an olive green, in fact his hard armor is even greener than the soft uniform, because they did not color match it to the fabric. Now lego likes to use dark grey for the officers, which makes a lot of sense because even off screen, they do look fairly unsaturated and grey-ish, but not Veers's hard armor, that is very much an olive green through and through. So most of lego's old Veers minifigs, are depicted as grey to keep it consistent with their other officers. But wait, what's this? the new AT-AT sets have him as sand blue? because the blue tint makes him look blue on screen? even though the armor is an olive green?
So to make this clear:
The AT-AT drivers were once white like they appear on the film, but changed to grey to be more accurate to the costume off-camera. But in the same exact set, instead of being consistent and making Veers olive green to be accurate to his costume, they make him a sand blue to reflect the color grading we see in the film? I wouldn't mind if he was blue and the drivers white, or they drivers grey and veers green, but to mix and match the on-screen and off-screen colors between minfigs makes no sense to me and drives me insane. At least a middle ground at grey for veers makes more sense than the sand blue to me.
This is very minute problem that no one else cares about, but as someone in my costuming who strives for as much accuracy to original props in the films I love, things like this stick out like a sore thumb to me.
Damn, that was longer than I was expecting...
Anyway, I would like to thank you for the context regarding color in filming and sets themselves.
Have a nice day good sir ^^
I love this attention to detail! I had no idea General Veers armour was olive green!
It’s always fascinating to debate the validity of what appears on screen vs what the model or costume actually looks like. 👍
Additionally for the ISDs, they're white in Rogue One
Is Han Solo's jacket in ESB blue vs brown another example of this?
Yeah, I've always had trouble with the Imperial uniforms, for example the officers sometimes look gray, sometimes sand blue and sometimes olive green
I feel like UCS models should adhere to the original screen-accurate colours as much as possible, while smaller sets should go for whatever makes for a more ‘toy-like’ colour scheme. Hardcore collectors get the most accurate rendition possible, while casual buyers get a more colourful and visually striking model
Speaking of that, what was the colour-scheme of the original UCS TIE Interceptor?
I think should also be noted that in starwars, the ships called snow speeders aren't actually made specifically for cold environments. We know this because It's is mentioned in ESB that the speeders are having a hard time adjusting to the cold environment of Hoth. So it wouldn't make sense that they'd be painted white unless they were modified afterwards.
This is a great point! ☝️☝️
They were though with guns I believe the tow hook came with the ship.
Theres the Hasbro Sandspeeder from the 80s. Lego made a set based on it a few years ago.
@@GreenBlueWalkthroughThey were heavily modified, yes, but the actual speeder wasn't originally designed for the cold.
God, I would love to see an official sand blue TIE Fighter on shelves.
honestly, yes. sand blue is a beautiful color.
I love the Havoc Marauder set just because it’s sand blue, it’s so pretty compared to all the black and gray we usually get in Star Wars
This was my first LEGO set, I called it the "Megger ship" and it could destroy the entire universe in one shot, according to my imagination.
Who was the pilot?
@@ryz8I'm pretty sure I used a knight with a pirate hat
This is Star Wars canon!
@@Nukarot Better writing than some of the later movies I'd say!
Slugger understands the issues we lego fans truly care about. He has a slimy slug finger on the pulse of the community, clearly!
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NO. No. I DO CARE. The white snowspeeders have always bothered me. I was IMMEDIATELY aware of the discrepancy and have yet to accept it.
I wish very light gray had caught on in more then less than 100 very limited pieces. The fact there are only 2 shades of gray for the majority of the catalogue feels very limiting sometimes. Very light gray seems like it would be a welcome addition to the pallet. If only there was someone out there who did in depth content about limited run Lego colors...
Try only 20 parts, with almost all of them Duplo or Scala/Belville. Very light bluish gray is slightly better, with a modest selection of basic bricks, plates, and technic beams, but still well under 100 parts total.
I only recently - well, about a year before this video was published - discovered very light bluish gray and got some parts in hand, and immediately fell in love. I _vastly_ prefer light gray to light bluish gray and dark gray to dark bluish gray, and I think that very light gray would be better than very light bluish gray for a snowspeeder. But despite not liking the other bluish grays, if I could have just one very light color back, I’d go for very light bluish gray. It has a wonderful bone/shell quality to it that is just awesome to build with, and works in places that both white and gray (including very light gray) look out of place.
I think the blue TIE fighters are now canon since they were a skin in Star Wars Squadrons. I wonder if LEGO will ever make a white-ish gray to give the X-wing a more accurate look
They had very light gray and very light bluish gray colours (mostly found in Scala and Mindstorms sets iirc, very few parts produced in either colour). Both suit the X-wing and Snowspeeder really well and given that multiple other colours have been brought back in recent years (i.e. dark turquoise) I'd like to see very light bluish gray return
They did (The Bionicle "Piraka Thok" i using it) but never used it for something useful (X-Wing, Emperor or Vader's faces). My guess is that it was deemed not worth it between white and DB_light_grey for the few uses when it's really needed.
@@satellachannel6423 ah I can't believe I forgot about the only Piraka I owned. I think there was also an older lighter gray (lighter than light green gray) that was used in the old mosaics.
Love how "people" think something is real because it was in a video game. Hahaha
Even all the other plastic toys of TIE before the remakes and resurgence of ties were made in Sandblue
Blue Tie Fighters are so appealing to me, when I was a kid they were the de facto Lego version of the Tie. Ya the blue was intense, but it made them look very unique to me and while now I find it kind of garish looking back, I remember going to my friends house and playing with his deep blue Tie Kenner toys. It was so cool looking to me to the point that I remember having genuine disappointment when I first saw the UCS Tie back in the day with black and gray. I thought it would be a giant deep blue Tie so seeing this was somehow the ultimate Lego Tie turned me off from the design. Seeing that Interceptor MOC awakened something in my soul. I need to build one for myself, even if it costs me all my arms and legs.
Right? Once you see sand blue tie fighters, it’s so hard to go back to accepting gray!
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. Snow Speeders were always gray.
It was their final, most essential command.”
As a rather big snowspeeder fan, I feel the need to point out most other toy models have it white also, lending claim to the market reseaech idea. However, the black series and Bandai models make them look more grey. My favourite colour scheme for them is more of a light light grey, closer to white but still noticeably grey. It is a fascinating subject on the "colours of the snowspeeder." With a very literal white washing in fans minds of it's colour.
Edit: added the word toy before model.
That's one of the main reasons why the Lego Bad Batch shuttle is one of my absolute favorite Lego sets. It uses Sand Blue perfectly and gives it such a cool look. If Lego can use Sand Blue for a $100 Star Wars set, surely they can use it on a $50 tie fighter
On a similar note, I think the old lego dark grey reflects the olive grey colour of an imperial officer uniform much better than dark bluish grey
Definately
WRONG
(This is about Empire’s placement on the Sluggometer, even if it was definitely a joke)
You’re right and you should say it, I miss my 99 Snowspeeder. It’s been a minute since it was released, so hopefully the next iteration greys up a bit
The thing with snowspeeders is that the official props were gray, but a very light shade of gray that, until the "stone gray" colors came out, didn't exist in LEGO's lineup. It's a very light gray that shows up almost as white under bright light. So that might explain the original switch to white. But now that "light stone gray" is a thing, I don't know why they haven't switched back.
I feel like I already addressed this type of comment @ 4:50 in my video, haha. 😅
Personally, I think the light gray colour was already a great match for what we see on screen, not to mention the filming models themselves. I think all the evidence I showed in this video points to the models being far closer to gray than white.
But Slugger, it's not fair to call that grey! Its very obviously *light* grey.
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Are we sure it's not dark white?
it's funny, as someone who builds model kits as well as lego, I did build and paint a snowspeeder kit a few years ago, and looking at the studio models, I did realize they're mostly grey. Even as a kid, I had a tiny diecast snowspeeder that was all grey! I figured it was just common knowledge lol.
Edit- Oh, and I will say, I think the white snowspeeder thing mostly boils down to wanting to make them a different color from the AT-ATs that a lot of people will end up displaying their snowspeeders with. If they both end up grey, it looks a bit boring, but the white and orange is much more striking and different.
That’s a good theory too!
I’ve run into that with building model starships before - sometimes the paint choices they call for in the instructions don’t match what we see on screen at all! 😅
Even after seeing the Empire Strikes Back so many times i never realised this 0_0
I guess everyone assumed it was supposed to be burnouts from enemy blasts
10:00 those hinges could’ve been substituted with the O-clip and bar plates and been perfectly fine. I have no idea why they used the ugly mixel joints instead. They literally included the other pieces on the other wing corners
I think the regular clips cause an absolutely tiny amount of stress on the plates by pushing them into the main wing construction, technically making it an illegal build and breaking Lego's design rules as a result. Doesn't mean I'm not going to swap out the parts on my copy of the set though.
@@Mothbean that makes sense, but that’s something I’m very fine breaking Lego laws for
Imo Star Wars just has way too many boring looking vehicles. I wouldn't mind if Lego made a point to release cheaper, play-oriented, whackier takes on them alongside the more film-accurate versions for collectors.
The choice to make it white is probably to give a more colorful lineup to an already very Grey theme. The white makes it camouflage well in the snow and reminds the buyer it is from a snow planet. I see no reason to change anything about it even if it is a little inaccurate. 👍
Half my Lego collection is gray, dark grey, brown and tan thanks to star wars
I've always liked grey for Star Wars vehicles since I think it better replicates the incredible weathering done by ILM, especially for The Rebels. It's definitely funny seeing how the scale modelers debate around what shade of grey German tanks were painted, and how blue it was, is replicated almost word for word in the Star Wars community, especially since the design language of The Empire was so inspired by them. I love this sort of minutia though, it does a really good job of highlighting the people behind the props!
Grey is definitely good for Imperial and Rebel ships, but white makes more sense when it comes to Republic ships such as the LAAT, ARC-170, Z-95, etc.
In the Marvel comic adaptation of the movie from 1980, the snowspeeders are BOTH light grey and white. It depends of the panel, but usually, they're grey if they're on snow, white otherwise.
Slugger you're my hero. This very subject has been bothering me for decades.
Now someone PLEASE explain to me why the iconic orange accents got changed to dark grey
easy, every snow speeder has different markings... and in LEGO, while most of the time we get to have Luke´s snowspeeder, thats not always the case, hence the different markings of orange or gray
@@reapertoa Is that true to the films or just extended canon? Not trying to be pedantic, I just remember rewatching Empire and specifically looking for Grey marked snowspeeders but not noticing anything. I also have the memory of a goldfish though so w/e
I’VE BEEN WONDERING THE EXACT SAME THING OMG I’M GLAD I’M NOT THE ONLY CRAZY ONE
@@tagg218There are different snowspeeders seen in ESB. A lot of them had those orange markings, but some of them were all grey. In particular, Luke's snowspeeder that gets shot down is one of the all grey ones.
@@reapertoaYep, Luke's snowspeeder is one of the ones with grey markings, while other snowspeeders, like Wedge Antilles and Zev Senesca's snowspeeders have the orange markings.
There's been quite a lot of video variety as of late, I like it
Thanks! Trying to balance ongoing series videos with other topics like this one can be challenging at times. It’s hard to strike the right balance, haha. 😅
Great video! I agree with everything you said (aside from the opinion on Empire I guess, but to each their own!) LEGO, don't be cowards, give us a sand blue Tie Fighter!!!
Next video; the tragedy of trans-medium blue 😂
I can’t take another loss like that
I still say they should make a sand blue Executor. That thing is very blue in the movies, and it was intentionally a different color than the normal star destroyer.
Absolutely!
I gotta say I really miss the starry space backdrop of the old Star Wars instructions. They were so charming and fun! Also, the old pod racer sets are some of my favorites because it was the first and last time they would ever make more than just Anakin and Sebulba’s pod racers. The other pod racer designs are super creative and colorful and just really fun overall.
great video as always!! thank you :D also fun fact, the set at 11:05 was actually my first ever lego set when i was around 4 years old 🥺 i’m 20 now
Same thing applies to the X-Wing to me. They should be grey!!
Even bigger color scandal: Lego is currently trying to sell us a big dark turquoise (or "Bright bluish green") Lion as "The Mighty Azure Lion" (Monkie Kid 80048)
Why is nobody talking about this?
Oh what a crime! Star Wars being robbed of the ONE gray vehicle it had! All we have left now are diverse, vibrant colors of the rest of the theme...
Concerning TIE fighters, I feel the grey works best on a purely symbolic level. The empire is supposed to be oppressive, so a lack of color conveys that nicely.
"but mUh tHeMes"
Game shows have "Incorrect"
Lawyers have "Objection!"
Slugger has "WRONG! IT'S GREY!"
Snowspeeders are indeed gray. This is the color of the Kenner versions, Micromachines, etc. Of course the original movie.
I guess LEGO made them white to stand out on the shelf and tie back to the snow planet.
TIE Fighters are a bluish gray color, moreso in Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. They're more whitish gray in the first movie. And wow would sand blue be perfect for them!
I didn't know that's why the mixel joints are always gray. That's good to know.
I think this was appropriate payback for MayDay not consulting you about Earth Orange in his video
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I really like the original LSW sets. They felt like Star Wars adapted for LEGO, not LEGO trying to be as accurate as humanly possibly. It feels more fun and toyetic compared to the sets we have today.
I've never heard you raise your voice before.
I'm scawed
Swap the Snowspeeder for the X-wing and you basically covered my exact thoughts over the past few days, even down to the TIE Fighter color choice.
I've never, ever thought Snowspeeders were white.. they're the same color and product line as X-Wings and Y-Wings..
I really need to dig through my old bin of childhood Lego, i could probably find 90% of the OG snowspeeder. It was definitely my favorite design, but i was 11 when it came out so that may tip the scales in its favor 😅
What a boss. Spent the whole video talking about StarWars just to casually drop a STARTREK reference at the literal last second!!!!!!!
Since most LEGO Star Wars vehicles do not include landscaped side-builds, I can understand the appeal of a white snowspeeder, since it's a lot easier to imagine your vehicle flying over snow and ice if the vehicle itself is the color you are trying to imagine. Plus, people will think "SNOW = White, thus a SNOWspeeder must be white." Or, they will think, "A snowspeeder must be white in order to blend in with the terrain and be camouflaged."
However, I agree that it's inexcusable, and I am horrified that I myself thought that Snowspeeders were white.
Also, Sand Blue TIE Fighters is a genius idea which I 100% support. Plus, it certainly is interesting that LEGO themselves have included blue or sand blue accents on official TIE fighter models.
I don't like that usually every review you find about the 1999 to 2002 Star Wars Sets usually is like "well everything about these is shit, but for the time...".
I honestly think the OG Star wars Sets were designed to be more in line with LEGOs other themes at the time (yellow skin, asthetic) and to be rebuild (alternate and combiner models, useful basic pieces). The difference in Design philosophy is never really adressed. :/ makes me wish someone with a passion for them would do a retrospective.
I guess what I'm trying to say here is "I would be excited to see more old Star wars Set Reviews on this channel" 😂 Even though I'm not really a LEGO Star Wars guy. I just like these OG Sets for how well they did fit in with the rest of 90s LEGO themes
YES! Yes, this! That dismissive mindset is exactly what I’m trying to argue against, but I think some folks watching this video lacked that context.
Thanks for understanding, and I think you’ll be happy with future Star Wars videos on this channel! 😊
@@RRSlugger I would love to see that. I grew up with the prequels and to this day have a soft spot for Episode 1, actually Episode IV was the last Star Wars movie I watched as a kid. I love the OGs and Episode one and I think the reason for that is the same why old LEGO Sets speak so much to me. A sense of wonder and mystery. Those movies take mostly place in foreign locations that feel lonely and "out there, away from it all". Thinking about Tatooine, Hoth, Dagobah (gosh I love Dagobah and yodas hut, it has a certain sense of cosiness), even Endor.
With LEGO Sets I often hear "for back in the day" "by todays standards", even though I'd argue the average Set quality back then was better than it is nowadays 😄
slugger yelling WRONG (at 3:42) threw me off that was hilarious, i want to add it to my discord sound board (if that's okay, of course)
Oh for sure, go for it! ❤️
I just want to put it out there that snowspeeder is a missnomer. They were regular civillian speeders adapted for military applications & then further adapted to work in the cold.
It's why I find the hatred for 75204 so baffling. It's the same craft only modified to work in a different environment, much like sandtroopers are Stormtroopers with portable cooling systems.
Slug from a PC Lego game, explains how LEGO has been gaslighting us for the past three decades
Also your screaming is the most unhinged and hilarious stuff I've ever heard
This always bothered me as well, but I do appreciate the color contrast with almost ALL the other SW ships. Similar to the Bad Batch shuttle which lots of people complained about the sand blue color scheme, I like that it breaks up the otherwise boring line up.
It makes that set so much more unique
Only worthwhile bad batch set + all the cast + sandblue + great ship its perfect
The Havoc Marauder being mostly sand blue not only looks good, but it's actually pretty accurate to the cgi model used in the show.
Wrong they're a very very pale yellow, or at least the one ive kept in the window for 10 years is
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I have never seen Lego TIE Fighters in sand blue before *and now I'm in love.* It's the perfect harmony between blue and grey without making either of the colors stick out too much. Under the right lightning it can look like either a dark or light grey, but with a subtle blue reflection to it that's just noticeable enough upon closer inspection. It's genius. It would describe the three chameleon-like colors perfectly. I don't know why Lego doesn't use that color for those sets since they still have so many parts in that color.
As someone who owned the original Star Wars Visual Dictionary from a very young age, I was always fairly aware of this issue. That book was always my go to reference for how accurate my Lego models were, and in it there's a picture of Luke getting out of his crashed Snowspeeder, that is clearly grey. I have mixed feelings about the grey vs sand blue TIE colours, because it really depends on the shots or photos you look at. From an accuracy perspective, I would be fine with either really, but the sand blue is definitely a more interesting and unique look. Grey does match a lot of the other Imperial vehicles though, which gives some nice faction cohesion. The sand blue accents on the TIE Striker model were really nice at least and it's a shame they haven't carried that over into the more recent TIEs.
I think I’m right there with you on all points. 💯👍
The talking indidicators during the discussion with maydayfigs are the character icon borders from the lego star wars games. Nice detail.
Thank you! I had to throw it in. 😊
We've had this argument before lol, but just to restate my take on the matter publicly, I've never really cared all that much about screen accuracy and prefer the white snowspeeders because they look better than the ones in the film. Similarly, I actually really like the black-with-blue-highlights look of the original TIE sets and would love to see that look come back, but honestly I'd accept sand blue as a compromise. Definitely better than grey.
Modded t-47 airspeeder, I mean if we’re gonna be complaining about accuracy surely we’ve gotta name it properly
Wow, 30000 subscribers! congratulations Slugger, those are some BIG numbers! :D
Thank you! ❤️
@@RRSlugger np!
Huh, I always wondered why the old tie fighter I had was made with those bright blue grill pieces along the wings. Cool video!
I'm pretty sure the Cloud Car and X Wing has the same issues as well as the speeder bike with the 40 year anniversary diorama set
I'm glad they are white. I think lego star wars has a way too much grey in general. Though it would be nice for the collector sets to be movie accurate.
The late Very Light Bluish Gray™ needs to make a comeback.
I love lego Qi Gon as an excited wojak, lego Qi Gon as an excited wojak is precious !
Slugger is probably the first person I’ve seen rank empire so low. Sluggers gonna slug I suppose
The white X wings bothers me so much more...
Can we just put slugger as an executive in the Lego group so he can choose all the colors for the sets. His eye for color is unmatched
This decision would make so many people unhappy, hahaha. 😂
I don't care about your Slug-O-Meter takes on Star Wars films, I need your Slug-O-Meter takes on Star Trek films AND shows!
That would entirely depend on what they are compared against! Like, are all the films compared against each other? Or do we rank the original 6 apart from the Next Gen movies, and so on? The Slug-O-Meter is only a relative scoring metric, so it all depends on what we feed the machine.
If I threw in all of the other SW films, that would instantly bump both Jedi and Empire up to three slugs, for example!
With several bins of vintage parts to play with now, the YELLOWED white pieces make me so... sad. Sadder still: running out of grey! The gallon-sized ziplock bags full of Star Wars minifigures give hint to what sets are mixed within. Going to build a snowspeeder and see what color it ends up from parts-I-have. #playeveryday (Binging on a bit of recently discovered R.R. Slugger! ♥#gotSPACEmail ? :) *not yet!)
Haha, thank you! Enjoy the binge!
1/3 for ESB is how we know Slugger's Star Wars takes don't need to be taken too seriously 😆
Back in ~1998 or so I had a large snowspeeder toy produced by Kenner that was very obviously grey - perhaps with a bit of a yellowish tint. Looking it up online, I'm fairly certain it wasn't yellowing of (almost new) plastic due to sunlight or smoking - that's just the color they were going for. Seeing the snowspeeder in white is strange, to say the least.
The 1980 Kenner snowspeeder was definitely grey. Snowspeeders were always grey to me. X-wings too!
Yeah one of Lego Star Wars biggest problems is lack of color diversity, but that doesn’t mean it’s the source content’s fault. The Lego group almost purposefully loads their set list up with only gray black and white ships to make things cheaper, avoiding Episodes 1,2,3 and accuracy in color.
And I thought I was the only one who thought that Snowspeeders were grey! Thank you!
I’m color blind in this video doesn’t matter who cares gray and white are the same color
this might be one of the least colorblind friendly topics you've done to date. good video
I love the Star Trek reference at the end, just to annoy some Star Wars Fanboys.
Okay but like... We don't have the right grey.
The Snowspeeder and the X-wing are both Light LIGHT grey. they could even be outright just a weathered white. If you make the current models light grey or especially light blue-ish grey. They don't look the same at all. I'd rather go safe with white and treat them as cleaned up designs
I’d argue we *do* have the right grey, at least now - Light Bluish Grey seems to be a perfect fit for the Snowspeeder. I will say that the X Wing (ironically) is a lighter shade of grey, so that one is a bit more tricky. There is a compelling argument to make a LEGO X Wing white, I think.
You’ve opened my mind in ways I never thought possible.
I like Empire... but I'm happy someone doesn't.
Okay, how about this: lightsaber blades should not be transpatent colors- they should be opaque! Seriously! They glow, but you can't see through them!
Wow, I never thought of it that way before! 😮
The yelling was so unexpected lmfao, actually startled me. I felt like I was the one being yelled at
Sorry! 😅
Great video I've often wondered about the colour choice myself
Also loved the Midnight Oil reference
Ayyy, someone else loves the Oils! ❤️
And the Eiffel Tower isn't grey (and never has been).
X-Wings as well . And I don't get why Lego changed that .
3:43 Jesus Christ, that's quite possibly the loudest you've ever been in a video, that REALLY caught me off-guard. Don't scare me like that!
That said, the speeder looks way better in white than in gray. Yes, it stands out against the snow when it's gray, but that's literally the OPPOSITE of what such a vehicle should do. It should blend in with its surroundings and fly as close to the ground as possible to be harder to spot! Also fits in way better with the other objects and characters you showed off at 7:03.
And I KNEW something was wrong when future Lego Tie-Fighters weren't blue! I mean, I always wondered why they were blue in the first place, but the ones I owned WERE, and therefore it's the ONLY acceptable color for them!
Haha, sorry! 😅
I think it’s perfectly fine to prefer snowspeeder toys in white. Are they more accurate to the film? No, but on screen accuracy isn’t everything. 😊
3:43 SLUGGIE YOU CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD
Sorry! 😅
Huh. You're right. The color choices are odd
whut ? but Strikes Back is so much better than the last one
X-Wings also aren't that white, are they?
I was nodding along with you about the speeder being grey but when you said Tie Fighters are blue I verbally exclaimed "WHAT?! No they aren't!"
And then you saw my compelling argument as to why they are blue and immediately agreed, right? 😉
@@RRSlugger ... Yes.
I’m currently dealing with a power outage and stuff so I don’t have the time, but I will be back to write a multi paragraph comment about how the Empire Strikes Back is the best of the original trilogy, and maybe even better than Revenge of the Sith. But obviously not as good as the clone wars show.
Hahaha, oh no…
@@RRSlugger lol jk
Excellent video, as always. I always think the most straightforward evidence is to look at the pilot helmets in both the studio and film set mock up models. There is clearly a difference between the white pilot helmets and the steel grey look of the ships. I think that LEGO designers dip into the nostalgia of their childhood by copying or emulating some of the original Kenner toy ship models from the original 77-83 toy line. The Snowspeeders were more white than grey there. In addition, you'll also note the other great offender--the white X-wings. You'll see white X-wings there in the original '78 release until they changed to the correct grey color with the ESB battle damaged version in 1980.
Have you noticed, that back in the day, Lego gave us better variety in our models and minifigs? I mean, we got five Native American Minifigs and two unique Tepees from the Wild West Line, alongside the addition of a General Store in Gold City Junction, while in the lone ranger theme we got one tepee, four natives, and no general store building in colby city. Not to mention that between 1999 and 2001 we got a total of five unique podracers, whereas in modern times we've only gotten two, and those two were repeats of two older ones. I'm just saying, back in the day, we got more variety in our models and minifigs, so why not in these more modern times? Heck, Lego World City gave us foreman and police chief minifig torsos for the first and only time in the years those style of uniforms were used. Why Lego, why?
Reminds me of the controversy that happened with the colours of the Bad Batch Shuttle set
*quietly adjusts screen hue/saturation*
very interesting, as a fan of Lego (and Star Wars) that never owned a Lego Star Wars set, these missmatching of colours are intriguing.
The V1 Snowspeeder is one of my favourite LEGO sets. Chunky, sturdy, swooshable, lots of fun play features... And SCREEN ACCURATE!
While I didn't mind the TIEs changing to grey as much, the much earlier and more significant switch to white for the snowspeeder filled me with baffled confusion that I still clearly remember to this day.
Also poor MayDayFigs, hah. :)
Someone summon EC Henry onto this case!
The same issue sort of affects the A-Wing as well - the colour of that ship is more of a stone grey/off-white with a light red stripe, not the stark white and red it's always depicted as. The sizing of that ship is also kind of mucked up in Lego scale, as it's meant to be a very VERY small fighter. For those reasons, I still think that the original A-Wing 7134 from the 2000s original waves is still the best in terms of size and colour.
I agree 100%!
The x-wing is the same way
I think imagining anything in the original Star Wars movies in pristine colors feels against the spirit. Maybe a snowspeeder model out of the factory is white but everything in star wars is long out of date so it’s grimy and rusty and you’d never see white anywhere but maybe on a princess
I agree with your point, but a snowspeeder out of the factory wouldn't be a snowspeeder. The "snowspeeders" were T-47 airspeeders that the Rebellion heavily modified to work in the freezing temperatures on Hoth.