Roasting Transformers Prime.

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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  • @robertg4122
    @robertg4122 Рік тому +43

    Fun fact of the day: bulkhead was originally going to be ironhide but since in the bay movies he died, the show writers changed it to bulkhead to not confuse children.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +27

      Yeah, it's really dumb how they kept doing that because of the movie.

  • @randomautobotprime360
    @randomautobotprime360 Рік тому +221

    I feel like we need to talk about how fast Bulkhead ran like that dude was moving 10 universes ahead of those vehicons yet he’s somehow built like the average body positivity influencer

    • @mothman20
      @mothman20 Рік тому +55

      it's similar to a rhino, the mass causes them to keep gaining speed and harder to slow down

    • @framerate6455
      @framerate6455 Рік тому +13

      easy, m a g i c

    • @TFBricks
      @TFBricks Рік тому +31

      Once big guys get moving, ya gotta get out of the way, because they will either go through you, or you'll go under them.

    • @howaboutgaming3123
      @howaboutgaming3123 Рік тому +17

      it was an animation error. Although It is the cause for some of the funniest clips from Transformers media.

    • @mothman20
      @mothman20 Рік тому +21

      @@howaboutgaming3123 dawg grizzly bears and rhino's have a top speed of 30-35 mph and that's proof bigger things can move faster once they gain momentum

  • @SCPBackup
    @SCPBackup Рік тому +58

    To be honest prime Soundwave is basically robot Slenderman.
    They’re both tall, thin, faceless, have tentacles and if you count ground bridges teleportation

  • @washingmachine5225
    @washingmachine5225 Рік тому +25

    There’s also that one episode where the decepticons find the autobot base in a military camp. So what they do is instead of bombing the entire camp they only bomb one building and all the autobots have to do to avoid being blown up is switch places with the next building.

  • @honestmistake8167
    @honestmistake8167 Рік тому +29

    this roast video made me love TFP more. Thank you for 3 years of this, Perspective. truly the funniest of Transformers UA-camrs

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +7

      I don't know how I did that, but I'm happy to have.

  • @CapriciousChill
    @CapriciousChill Рік тому +43

    Don't forget: Chromiarcee is blue because the writers "didn't want to make Jack look *silly* riding a pink motorcycle." I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and alledge a showrunner or toy company exec made a suggestion when the toy was already being finalized like "no, if you're pairing it with the boy, make the bike blue. Unless you pair the girl with the bike in the show, but you actually seem to kinda want to challenge norms with the girl character, so make the bike a less silly color."
    "I guess we could rename her chromia real quick to match blue-"
    "No, she has to be named arcee, not chromia. I don't care that chromia is actually blue, because nobody - outside a handful of nerds on the internet - knows any other girl space robot names outside of the 80s movie."
    "But elita-1 was in dreamwave tho."
    "Nerds! I'm surrounded by nerds!"

  • @lightyearpig12
    @lightyearpig12 Рік тому +51

    If Prime was as dark and gritty as everyone said it was, Optimus would've torn off a Vehicon face or two or a couple thousand.

  • @gecko2993
    @gecko2993 Рік тому +50

    Your roasts make me realise how much of a mindless consumer i can be sometimes, i didn't even think of half of these problems

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +25

      Well I don't mean to ruin anything for you. If you can recognize it's flaws and still enjoy it, then that would be the best outcome.

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 Рік тому +4

      Hey, Prime isn't a bad series, but it still has it's flaws

    • @Jetblast01
      @Jetblast01 Рік тому +12

      It's always good to rewatch a series later on so when the hype dies down you can see more the flaws. Much as I liked Amarda/hated Energon my opinion changed. Armada is a very slow start but has some hype af moments by ep 13. Energon has an interesting plot but the repetitive battles and worst than S1 Beast Wars clunky animation doesn't help and the dub cutting a major character background episode was trash. It was such a big reveal, it re-contextualizes everything they've done throughout the series. And Kicker apparently isn't the worst human in the franchise since he actually does help even in battle. SUCCESSFULLY!

  • @jaylenware363
    @jaylenware363 Рік тому +76

    Ratchet and Raf was a better friendship than Bumblebee and Raf. Change my mind

    • @PJmachine
      @PJmachine Рік тому +25

      Probably because Ratchet was allowed to speak and emote.

    • @jaylenware363
      @jaylenware363 Рік тому +5

      @@PJmachine Very true

  • @jstormer4268
    @jstormer4268 Рік тому +25

    Damn that rant about megatron and starscream was spot on, honestly I think that beast wars megatron & animated megatron were more cunning & actually threatening.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +15

      Oh for sure. They were both way smarter and way more Dangerous.

    • @radekvaverka8921
      @radekvaverka8921 Рік тому +13

      @@PerspectiveEndabsolutely. Prime Megatron was an absolute beast in combat and would likely beat most versions of the character in the fight, but god damn was he an incompetent strategist. Even Bayverse Megatron was a better tactician. If BW and Animated Megatrons are a scalpel and Bayverse Megs is a chainsaw, then TFP Megatron is a fucking Abrams. Absolutely no precision or planning, just power, durability and fighting skills. I honestly don’t think there’s ever been a LESS tactical Megatron. Which is funny cause the one in the Cybertron games, which are supposedly prequels to Prime, is way smarter than his future self. Meaning TFP Megs canonically suffered some form of irreversible processor damage.

  • @radekvaverka8921
    @radekvaverka8921 Рік тому +50

    FINALLY! I loved this show and I’m GLAD you can be so honest with no fear of the show’s almost fanatical fans (myself included). Can’t wait for you to get to the High Moon games designs cause those are my favorites for most characters.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +6

      Oh yeah, the shows fans are quite something, but I fear no Backlash.

  • @quintariusgooch
    @quintariusgooch Рік тому +183

    Notice how Knock-Out doesn't get a roast.
    It's because he is perfect and always will be.

    • @jessenyapp5052
      @jessenyapp5052 Рік тому +28

      Me: (silently waiting for him roast Knockout too)

    • @rayvenkman2087
      @rayvenkman2087 Рік тому +21

      Knock-Out? More like Take-Down.

    • @blazinglightgt8673
      @blazinglightgt8673 Рік тому +9

      @@kay1a_0606 He kinda roasted Wheeljack already.

    • @Sea-f-0
      @Sea-f-0 Рік тому +6

      He has not roasted blackout either, that means he is the perfect bayverse design

    • @quintariusgooch
      @quintariusgooch Рік тому +5

      @@Sea-f-0 this is
      Logical

  • @nfortyeight
    @nfortyeight Рік тому +25

    Imagine how intimidating soundwave would’ve been if he had more lines besides “soundwave superior”

  • @johngolles342
    @johngolles342 Рік тому +98

    Finally someone said it. Them killing Cliffjumper was supposed to make the Decepticons feel like a threat and that this story isn’t afraid to kill off it’s main characters, and then the rest of the show, the Decepticon empire falls to a squadron of the enemy faction. There are no steaks

    • @StaceyBrown3
      @StaceyBrown3 Рік тому +12

      That’s like half of all transformers stories. The decepticons clearly overwhelm the autobots. But they power through and defeat the decepticons.

    • @RETRONOMIKON
      @RETRONOMIKON Рік тому +15

      Of course there aren't steaks. They're robots.

    • @johngolles342
      @johngolles342 Рік тому +13

      @@RETRONOMIKON theyre aliens made of metal. This is the show that even shows their genes, cyber-nucleic acid

    • @johngolles342
      @johngolles342 10 місяців тому +1

      Stakes* Lmaoo

    • @soberman1958
      @soberman1958 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@StaceyBrown3Which would've been fine if this specific story wasn't overhyped as "dark and realistic" take on Transformers.

  • @ThatBigChillSimp
    @ThatBigChillSimp Рік тому +26

    Prime Megatrons only Damage he did to the autobots was that he gutted bee’s voice box. That’s surprising because at one point he had two separate army and one of these army has units that’s actually are able to keep up with team prime, and the other ones are near useless. And he also had fucking predaking on his side

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +10

      And that didn't really interfere with Bumblebee's ability to communicate.

  • @bimbojimbo7101
    @bimbojimbo7101 Рік тому +103

    I actually liked the more personality-based roasting more then the plain design ones.

  • @Pterodactyll
    @Pterodactyll Рік тому +69

    Why does prime have more seductive hips than arcee

    • @j-sant-animations8105
      @j-sant-animations8105 Рік тому +22

      I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed his wider range on those hip sways when he walks.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +20

      I don't know, why are people still so into Arcee over him? Tis a Mystery.

    • @Afanof1
      @Afanof1 Місяць тому +1

      I thought Starscream was a girl when I was 6

  • @razorshark6790
    @razorshark6790 Рік тому +11

    New prime: *grounding bee from the drive in theater*
    Old prime: *hugging bumblebee*

  • @michaelpapp5518
    @michaelpapp5518 Рік тому +19

    1:16 g1 Optimus would just be happy to meet another Prime doing good. I like to think G1 OP would make it his personal mission to give TFP OP a sense of humor if he has to weld it onto him.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +7

      Here's the thing. Is Prime Prime doing good? Cause last I checked he's leading a Broken army against a unreasonable odds.

    • @radekvaverka8921
      @radekvaverka8921 Рік тому +7

      @@PerspectiveEndI think the reason Prime is so serious, and this isn’t confirmed so take it with a grain of salt, but it’s widely believed Elita is dead. The biggest clue is during the Roid Rage Ratchet episode. Instead of Cliffjumper, Ratchet was actually gonna bring up Elita’s death. And the writers were even going to have Optimus break his cold and calm character and straight up drop Ratchet with a punch. But HASBRO was determined to leave Optimus a stoic character, so they had to change the scene. So it’s semi confirmed the reason Optimus is so serious and emotionless is that the emotional part of him died with Elita, hence her being brought up bringing emotions out of Optimus.

  • @ignitedmotion5807
    @ignitedmotion5807 Рік тому +22

    Never getting over the fact that megatron left the space bridges entire video game weakspot open to the enemy team.
    Don’t get me started on his kill shot with arcee and a child.

  • @rickyrackey7930
    @rickyrackey7930 Рік тому +34

    Fun Fact: This is Peter Cullen’s favorite portrayal of Optimus Prime.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +28

      I think he only feels that way, because after playing the Bay Prime for a while, it must have been a relief to be a less psychopathic prime.

    • @Ginko_Sakata
      @Ginko_Sakata 5 місяців тому +1

      You don't understand bayverse prime then

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Ginko_Sakata1. Elaborate then.
      2. How is this relevant to what Peter Cullen said?

  • @dr.spicememedefender8779
    @dr.spicememedefender8779 Рік тому +14

    I love Tfp's designs like bayverse but with a mix of g1 and animated this show made me love prime's long nose truck mode

  • @confusedshovel1232
    @confusedshovel1232 Рік тому +25

    still pretty funny despite the roasts being more on the characters personality than their designs. At least when prime doesn't have his faceplate on, his mouth is where a mouth should go

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +14

      his face is till weird, but he does have a proper mouth position yes.

  • @Zap_Master99
    @Zap_Master99 Рік тому +14

    Sees new perspective end roast video.
    Me: "Hell, its about time"
    Also: Arcee mentions how she could've gotten a different paint job being bleached in pink once.

  • @chrithmuthwolf344
    @chrithmuthwolf344 Рік тому +14

    To this day, not many people are aware that Prime Shockwave's working title was "Purple Steel". The reason it was dropped was due to the realization that, while he had an angular face, he was missing the necessary chin and cheekbones to pull it off. One heck of a stare though. He's also probably the buffest nerd I've ever seen. 🤔

  • @Yovnoc
    @Yovnoc Рік тому +25

    Have you ever considered ranking character designs like Comodin Cam? I think it’d be interesting to see how you’d rank different designs throughout the franchise

    • @gleamingcolt
      @gleamingcolt Рік тому +7

      I would totally like to see fhat

    • @awesomeproductions7755
      @awesomeproductions7755 Рік тому +1

      Simple - he’d put everything that’s not G1 in F Tier.

    • @Yovnoc
      @Yovnoc Рік тому +3

      @@awesomeproductions7755 still interesting to see actual reasoning for the ranks

    • @gleamingcolt
      @gleamingcolt Рік тому +6

      @@awesomeproductions7755 not true, he loves IDW, and it’s really only the bay designs and some of the high moon studio designs that he hates.

  • @shawndashno6022
    @shawndashno6022 Рік тому +24

    I laughed the whole time. I still love Prime. You need to be able to accept that no matter what you like, it can never be perfect.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +3

      I'm glad you feel that way.

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 Рік тому +5

      Prime wasnt bad at all, but there was plenty of things that could be done to make it better

  • @reaps2197
    @reaps2197 Рік тому +18

    I think we can agree that animated bulkhead is the better design and in my opinion better character. But most animated characters have better arcs anyway.

  • @GameIdiots69
    @GameIdiots69 Рік тому +35

    The designs for the characters don’t feel like they should belong with each other, like most look like a human cosplaying in robot parts and the others just skeletons with bits of simple shapes on them, and then the rest have big hulks that have a body to fit a whole energon cube inside them.
    Oh and you should have talked about the eyebrows cause the ones on starscream can cost some nightmares

  • @m0stlyGh0sty
    @m0stlyGh0sty Рік тому +6

    Prime Megatron is super overrated, and to this day no one can convince me that Animated Megatron isn't the best one. He's the only one to actually kill Starscream when he tries to betray him, instead of that "keep your enemies close" bullshit.
    (Beast Wars Megatron is the 2nd best. Also somewhat because of his low tolerance for traitors.)

    • @rayvenkman2087
      @rayvenkman2087 Рік тому +3

      Animated Megatron, Marvel, IDW or Armada Starscream and IDW Soundwave could easily make a dream team.
      Prime is overrated and Empress Kumquat is the equivalent of a middle of the road content creator who’d make a lie or erroronus claim of Optimus bricking up Sunstreaker in a tunnel before adding the bit died in the tunnel when he didn’t and the uneducated normies would eat it up without basic research. Basically an MCU fan talking about Marvel Comics.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +2

      Animated Megatron is one of the Best ones yeah. Like he's smart and Threatening, and he's got one of the voices that I think work for him, when it's not Welker.
      And then Obviously BW Megatron, but he's a different dude.

  • @Doomkitt101
    @Doomkitt101 Рік тому +21

    One thing that cracks me up about Prime Megatron are his eyes. I swear every close up has him looking in two different directions at once

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +8

      I never noticed that, but I'll look closer from now on.

  • @_L___
    @_L___ Рік тому +24

    I love bumblebee’s design in this show especially when he swaps his color and gains a voice, it’s boring but I like it

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +19

      I flat out forgot Bumblebee was in this show.

    • @_L___
      @_L___ Рік тому +3

      @@PerspectiveEnd Yeah I thought it was weird that you left him out, idk he’s still my favorite character in the show

    • @grimmstudios4041
      @grimmstudios4041 Рік тому +1

      @@PerspectiveEnd well ig bumble was so boring as a character that you just flat out out forgot him

  • @CyberKnightMiky
    @CyberKnightMiky Рік тому +22

    As someone who grew up with this show and love it, this is pretty accurate and I just love your honesty.
    If the High Moon designs' next, I'll enjoy watching with popcorn while your tear them appart with your roast >:)

    • @JV-nm1fy
      @JV-nm1fy Рік тому +2

      I take it you hate the High Moon designs? Same withe me.

    • @CyberKnightMiky
      @CyberKnightMiky Рік тому +3

      @@JV-nm1fy not really, just want to see his rant

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +6

      I'm glad that so many people can appreciate what I do here, without tying my jokes to a malice towards you all, no one ever gets bent out of shape about these any more.

    • @legotimus8453
      @legotimus8453 Рік тому +2

      @@PerspectiveEndWill you ever do the WFC Netflix designs or nah since they are basically the toys

  • @Scoobertloobert
    @Scoobertloobert Рік тому +40

    Finally someone has the balls to roast prime

  • @Chromadome
    @Chromadome Рік тому +6

    1:43-1:57 This part reminds me of a TF 2007 commercial where Optimus ordered a BK Whopper.

  • @silverslayer6262
    @silverslayer6262 Рік тому +51

    Seriously, it’s like they forgot the most crucial thing about Optimus, that he’s a real hero, not one of those Hollywood posers, and that he’s strong enough to be gentle and not be such a stuck up prick who would rather rip a con’s face instead of being more of a father figure.

    • @kevinp.h157
      @kevinp.h157 Рік тому +6

      I guess No one at hasbro was ever told about this

    • @skylynx3227
      @skylynx3227 Рік тому +4

      Yeah every time I hear Peter Cullen talk about his brother telling him to be a real hero not one who screams and just wants to kill be able to stand up for what’s right and a few other things I can’t remember off the top of my head but I get a little bit sadder seeing that most modern Optimus’s are like this exceptions of cyberverse cyberspark and kind of ROTB

    • @kevinp.h157
      @kevinp.h157 Рік тому +3

      @@skylynx3227
      As a long time bayverse fan, I can tell you that most people don’t care and just find Optimus awesome, me included honestly and while I don’t mind the “strong enough to be gentle” Optimus, it seems like that’s slowly changing
      Also what is “cyberstark”? don’t you mean earthspark?

    • @False_Convoy
      @False_Convoy Рік тому +5

      I totally feel that, I think Optimus has been on a downward trend since 07. G1 was phenomenal, and very much embodied those ideals. I think UT Optimus does a great job of it too, he’s put more in the role of a military commander. But he has some real heart, a lot of depth to his characterization, we get to see him joke around sometimes, he also only kills when he has to. We see him struggle with those violent tendencies in Armada, but overcome them. He feels more real. Animated is very different, but I do love him. Great character. But Prime is just boring. He doesn’t have the depth of UT prime, he’s not as fun as G1. He has none of it. Bay prime is the best example of character assassination I can think of. Cyberverse i think is a little better than prime. Seige is pretty bad. Prime wars, well, we don’t talk about prime wars. Earthspark I don’t mind so far, but he’s not enough of a focus to even rank him.

    • @kevinp.h157
      @kevinp.h157 Рік тому +1

      @@False_Convoy
      Blame it on Bay 😑
      And what’s UT?

  • @chriscaseyg9362
    @chriscaseyg9362 Рік тому +6

    He was one of the most competent Starscreams. A bit surprised Blackarachnia got a mention and not to throw shade at the lesser spiderCon, Airachnid. Who always felt like someone described Spinister to the animators, but all they found in record were images of Animated Arachnia for reference. And then slapped her in a helicopter.

  • @reaps2197
    @reaps2197 Рік тому +10

    I'm both glad and disappointed that you didn't do knockout. Glad because he is objectively the best character in the show. Disappointed because I wanted to see how you would roast him.

  • @walterhartwellwhite1305
    @walterhartwellwhite1305 Рік тому +12

    The thing I hated most about TFP was the damn humans, they were especially annoying in this show. Its a show about big robots that turn into cars so believe it or not I want to see the big robots that turn into cars not the squishy meat creatures.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +8

      Oh yeah they are the Worst humans we've ever had in the franchise, and that's saying something considering Sam Witwicky is in this franchise.

    • @scarjaisero4716
      @scarjaisero4716 9 місяців тому +1

      Really, they were my personal favorite humans so far.

    • @dxrlingsofmine
      @dxrlingsofmine 8 місяців тому +1

      I was fine with Jack and Rafael, but Miko don’t even get me started with her.

  • @nicholasstensson9699
    @nicholasstensson9699 Рік тому +9

    Finally, the the one roast to rule them all
    Long have I awaited the day the prime fans would scream in anger

  • @uberkirbeeh7954
    @uberkirbeeh7954 Рік тому +38

    This is the show where every cybertronian was deliberately designed for r34 by the character designers and people wonder why there’s so many fan girls who are into TF porn.

    • @JV-nm1fy
      @JV-nm1fy Рік тому

      Really now? That is very interesting.

    • @uberkirbeeh7954
      @uberkirbeeh7954 Рік тому +8

      @@JV-nm1fy Well they were designed with sex appeal and things with sex appeal lead to pörn so...

    • @tutibrave-g7m
      @tutibrave-g7m 9 місяців тому +1

      Justice for Orion Pax

  • @setriaphtfk208
    @setriaphtfk208 9 місяців тому +4

    I rewatched this show very recently for the first time in a while about a year ago, I came out of it thinking, “man… this show squandered so much.”

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  9 місяців тому +3

      It's funny you mention that, I plan to review the show soon.

  • @shardsoftime0952
    @shardsoftime0952 Рік тому +18

    Always nice seeing my favorite show getting rosted lmao

  • @samsthebeztatstuff8885
    @samsthebeztatstuff8885 5 місяців тому +2

    Keep in mind how the designs look also depends on how your seeing them, seeing soundwave as a still image on a white background isn’t gonna look as good as I’m super blocking airachnid on the nemesis

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  5 місяців тому +1

      I'm taking that into account when I make these, I'm not insulting the picture exclusively, but what I know the character to look like over all.

  • @titusthehuman8922
    @titusthehuman8922 Рік тому +8

    Are you excited to get your hands on armada universe Optimus?

  • @15oClock
    @15oClock Рік тому +9

    When I saw the designs for the first time, I was disquieted. That's a bit of a rare word, but accurate in this case.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +4

      I do kind of feel you on the Disquieting nature of them.

  • @MrTryHardC
    @MrTryHardC Рік тому +4

    Congrats on 3 years! I've been waiting for this one for a long time! Glad to see Screamer get a shred of mercy. He's the reason I kept watching Prime, and therefore made me a TF fan.

    • @MrTryHardC
      @MrTryHardC Рік тому

      Also Soundwave is just that really tall dude in high school who is #1 on the team because nobody can reach below his waist

  • @samsthebeztatstuff8885
    @samsthebeztatstuff8885 6 місяців тому +3

    Yeah sexy images should be something only scene if your trying to find them, not the first 8 images of when you looking for images of her for a character analysis

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  6 місяців тому +1

      Unfortunately Prime's fanbase, is... Overcommitted to the serries, I think would be putting it delicately.

  • @1Whiteout12
    @1Whiteout12 Місяць тому +1

    My jaw dropped when it came to Soundwave’s part before I started laughing uncontrollably

  • @ilikepigeons6101
    @ilikepigeons6101 Рік тому +7

    These designs really interest me they look like they snap under the weight of a apple but at the same time it doesn't??

  • @hypertech116
    @hypertech116 Рік тому +6

    Prime Arcee is my Arcee because the other cartoon ones (and the recent movies) are just robot Leia.
    I like Prime Arcee because she's sleek and pointy. Confusing tires aside, she's much better than every other Arcee to design for sure. Which makes the Legarcee look like an astronomical failure.
    I just feel like Bulkhead's gonna turn into a ball when he tumbles. He's too stubby and too round. His proportions don't make sense in a semi-realistic gritty animation.
    I actually love Prime Ratchet's design. It's just awesome, like he's a futuristic paladin. It's far from what he's supposed to be, but it's what he is in my mind.
    Prime Optimus is too human-like, it's like the AOE Optimus but less bad. But still bad. The others have complex personalities, Optimus has nothing.
    Starscream really needs the cockpit chest. He needs a design worthy of his character.
    He's based on Bay Starscream, why doesn't he have the only one good quality the Bay version has?
    Megatron here is an addict. What the hell did you expect? He's gonna be worse than every other Decepticon.
    Knockout is very good. I wish his body was better designed, there's literally no decent toy of him at all. He fauxforms the worst of them all.
    Shockwave being ripped is believable. It's logical to have some strength so you don't rely on anyone else. Cause the Decepticons are a mess, especially in Prime.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +5

      I don't feel like that's an excuse for why they changed her. Like so what if the other one was based on Leia. Arcee is based on Leia.
      Oh yeah, the fact that he never attacked by rolling into a ball is a crime.
      I don't think prime is all that human like personally.
      You know Megatron being a Junky is a good way to describe it.

  • @seancarroll136
    @seancarroll136 Рік тому +4

    You know, why couldn’t there be a third party Optimus Prime toy name, like, ‘Big Mac’? It makes it sound like a fun code name for him.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +1

      That would make a lot of sense honestly, so I don't know why no one has.

  • @yonderjam
    @yonderjam Рік тому +4

    Comment 2: I have ideas for stuff to roast for an ROTB roast:
    Optimus Prime: him being the biggest jerk and his washed out colours.
    Mirage: him just being Jazz and the head being off.
    Bumblebee: the fact that he decided to be more sharper than the Bumblebee movie design itself.
    Arcee: her colours just being Elita-One.
    Stratosphere: the head.
    Pablo: already roasted so many times.
    Optimus Primal: the lack of colours.
    Cheetor: his black panther knock-off costume with the weird head.
    Rhinox: the head.
    Airazor: the fact that she doesn't have an official robot mode and thus doesn't transform, defeating the point of the entire series.
    Scourge: the inconsistent insignia trophies and the claw arm.
    Nightbird: the beak mouth and the figures of her both having bad kibble management and a large crotch for no reason.
    Battletrap: the head being as confusing as a baby design.
    Apelinq: the return of Dino's arm blades.
    Sweeps: being Spooky scary skeletons in an attempt to have a slasher film where the only one who dies is the killer.
    Scorponok: for being the only member of a faction that was hinted at being important in marketing, and not even having a lot of screentime.
    Unicron: for being the main threat of the first installment of a planned trilogy.

  • @izuto727
    @izuto727 Рік тому +9

    A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. I hate Prime for being the show that caused Animated's cancellation

  • @Prime-Productions
    @Prime-Productions Рік тому +4

    That arcee segment tho I’m both laughing and sad at how true that first part is😂😂😂😭😭😭

  • @mctankies
    @mctankies Рік тому +5

    What would you say is the most underrated Megatron?

  • @ultracarterzilla6939
    @ultracarterzilla6939 9 місяців тому +4

    What I would improve with Transformers Prime is casting J.K. Simmons as Ratchet instead because after hearing his voice as Tenzin in Legend of Korra and the real Stanford Pines in Gravity Falls, it made me wish he voiced Ratchet instead, i would cast Stephen Lang as Silas as Stephan Lang’s voice sound better and it would made Sils sound more like Col. Miles Quaritch from James Cameron’s Avatar, I would cast Fred Tatasciore as Breakdown so he can sound more hulk, I would cast Keith David as Soundwave as I fucking hate how Soundwave sounded, despite him being voiced by Frank Welker yet it still sounds terrible and Keith David would’ve used his Mongul voice from Young Justice to make Soundwave sound more sinister and not gruff, I would cast Sam Worthington for Smokescreen because after hearing Worthington’s voice after finishing Transformers Prime, it made me enjoy less of Nolan North’s voice performance and made me wish it was Sam Worthington who voiced Smokescreen instead.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  9 місяців тому

      I'm quite happy with Jeffry Combs being Ratchet. He needs to be in more things.
      Also Clancy Brown is a treasure. That is another change I would not make.
      I have no idea who Fred Tatasciore is, but I'm not about to say that Breakdown Required Adam Baldwin to be what he was.
      Keith David Soundwave would have been cool. And hopefully it would mean he talked more.
      You must be a Huge Avatar fan. I wouldn't bother changing Smokescrene's voice, guy did a good job.

    • @ultracarterzilla6939
      @ultracarterzilla6939 9 місяців тому +1

      @@PerspectiveEnd If Omni Man and Miles Quaritch were real and heard you criticize them, Omni Man would finish you off like he did to Red Rush in invincible: ua-cam.com/video/v0CE0Cm-nRg/v-deo.html and Col Miles Quaritch would slit you like he was gonna do to Jake Sully: ua-cam.com/video/p_TPy-UV6g8/v-deo.html

    • @JohnnyCage-cx7xw
      @JohnnyCage-cx7xw 9 місяців тому +2

      @PerspectiveEnd, how dare you hate J.K. Simmons and Stephen Lang, it’s like you didn’t even hear their voices at all and I agree @ultracarterzilla6939, your choices are way better than the actors who voiced them and Keith David as Soundwave would’ve been even better.

    • @mikeharrigan5535
      @mikeharrigan5535 8 місяців тому +2

      @@PerspectiveEndStephen Lang is the true treasure, not Clancy brown! Stephen Lang did the one thing Clancy brown failed to do, being in the highest grossing film of all time and Stephen Lang did that with James Cameron’s Avatar and He is even better than Clancy brown and better than you!

  • @harpybeagle4931
    @harpybeagle4931 Рік тому +4

    “Snatching up defeat from the jaws of victory” 😭😭

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +4

      There's no other way to describe what he does.

  • @yajeel
    @yajeel Рік тому +6

    Hmm…. No Bumblebee, Cliffjumper, Knockout, Skyquake/Dreadwing, Smokescreen, Airachnid, or Predaking?
    You did TFP Wheeljack already so that one’s covered. Hahaha

    • @ThatBigChillSimp
      @ThatBigChillSimp Рік тому +1

      Part 2 if he also includes the Vehicons and the Insecticons

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +2

      I was trying to do just the first Season Characters.
      I flat out forgot Bumblebee.
      Cliffjumper doesn't live long enough to have a character. Nor does Skyquake.

  • @pepnol
    @pepnol Рік тому +6

    I can’t tell what’s funnier, this or the Beast Wars roast

  • @jakesantiago3740
    @jakesantiago3740 Рік тому +2

    I never understood the people who said that Prime Chromia is the best Arcee, despite her looking and acting like a completely different character. Most of the time, she acts like a stock-up brat with her whole "YoU dOn'T uNdErStAnD mY pAiN" BS that makes her come off as an edgelord, It says something when the mute Soundwave feels less edgy than the talking bike who has a weird, yucky romantic relationship with a 16-year-old boy and his overbearing mother.

  • @ColdTRex
    @ColdTRex Рік тому +4

    7:45
    I think Starscreams design works amazingly. It fits his character perfectly, he is a spineless shmuck and his design works great

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +3

      It's not bad, but I think it needs a lot more color.

  • @EddieNova
    @EddieNova Рік тому +3

    Soundwave reminds me of paper origami but stopped halfway from finishing

  • @hiddensquid7048
    @hiddensquid7048 Рік тому +4

    Funny, today I was gonna rewatch the first few episodes of prime with my friend. It's the only transformers hes seen outside of the recent movies and I'm trying to get him into it.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +3

      Watch Beast Wars! WATCH BEAST WAAAAAARS!!!

    • @hiddensquid7048
      @hiddensquid7048 Рік тому +1

      @@PerspectiveEnd Beast Wars is so fucking good but I figure it might not be the best introduction.

  • @JayNConnor
    @JayNConnor Рік тому +9

    Prime is in my top 3 TF shows and I always found the characters designs lacking, but surprisingly I’ve always loved the animated designs and some of the movie designs

  • @kaijuconvoy6558
    @kaijuconvoy6558 Рік тому +5

    I will forever stand by the fact that TFP is one of the most overrated things to come out of this franchise
    This video summarised everything I have ever had an issue with regarding the Prime designs and added on top of it too regarding Breakdown and Shockwave and such. I will never understand what compelled the creators to give *Optimus Prime* a Goddamn _thong_

    • @rayvenkman2087
      @rayvenkman2087 Рік тому +5

      I liked Prime then but I’ve grown to take umbrage with people say it’s the definitive TF series which it fucking isn’t.

  • @Voltboy1449
    @Voltboy1449 Рік тому +14

    you can say what you say but all must agree Soundwave was badass when he DESTROYED arachnia

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +5

      You mean Airachnid?

    • @radekvaverka8921
      @radekvaverka8921 Рік тому +3

      @@PerspectiveEndhonestly, I hate the pun her name is, and how her alt mode looks NOTHING like the chopper she scanned, but her voice actress absolutely killed the role.

    • @Voltboy1449
      @Voltboy1449 Рік тому +1

      @@PerspectiveEnd CURSE YOU AUTOCORRECT

  • @michaelpapp5518
    @michaelpapp5518 Рік тому +4

    6:56 yeah, no wonder the council chose Orion Pax to be their next Prime over this Megs.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I mean they are both incompetent, but Megatron is on another level.

  • @lonewolf9578
    @lonewolf9578 Рік тому +4

    I never noticed the side view mirrors on breakdown before but now I do and I hate it

  • @teresaspychalska59
    @teresaspychalska59 Рік тому +3

    It's nice to hear a critique of this show that doesn't immediately turn around to contiune praising it, for a change. Especially when it comes to it's iteration of Arcee, with which I have quite a few gripes. Since on it's own both her personality and design are far from bad, for me she completely fallls as an Arcee iteration. Since all they have in common in the name and being the only female transformer in their groups. Not to mention that despite being created almost 30 years later than G1 Arcee, TFP Arcee's suffers from the same monumental design flaw: sacrificing being a functioning transformer in order to unnecessarily slim down and sexualize the design. Like for example, the fact that her chest is OBVIOUSLY supposed to form the front of her motorbike altmode, but the designers thought it was more important to make her look like she's wearing a battle bra, than to make a coherent transformers design. Not to mention the whole mass shifting thing, that again exist only to make her design work despite the fact that the only indicator of her being able to turn into a motorcycle are the wheels stuck inside her legs. Not to mention that she's like an anti Arcee when it comes to character, since she's so cold, unfriendly and downright rude. Despite every other Arcee iteration being all about being hopefull, friendly, positive, and hopefull, while also being a great warrior. But TFP Arcee is still held as a "one of the greates character reimagining in transformers chistory", despite the fact if not for the name, literally no one would have ever guessed that she's supposed to be in any related to G1 or any other version of Arcee.

  • @samsthebeztatstuff8885
    @samsthebeztatstuff8885 6 місяців тому +2

    At least Optimus’s mouth is where it should be on his face, not on his chin or all the facial features scrunched into 3 inches

  • @khrisrobotaco4438
    @khrisrobotaco4438 Рік тому +2

    This is probably the funniest Transformer roast you ever come up with in my opinion especially with Optimus Prime that got me laugh so hard thanks for making a video on this since now you roast this I have one question and be as honest as you can what do you rather watch the TF BAY movies or TF Prime

  • @D3ADYYY
    @D3ADYYY 11 місяців тому +2

    Smart man for not saying shyt about predaking😂one of the best transformers ever hands down.We need more of him bring the aligned predacons back!

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  11 місяців тому +2

      Definitely one of the better characters from the show.

  • @Nolans_Stop_Motions_reviews_YT

    Prime was ok. And no, I don’t have plans on putting a finger on Legacy Arcee because it belongs in a dumpster, but my parents gave it to me on my birthday, so I’m not throwing it away. Who understands this?

  • @harrishyatt6283
    @harrishyatt6283 2 місяці тому +1

    in tfa japanese dub bulkhead was called ironhide and ironhide was called armorhide
    breakdown's role in transformers prime was gonna be lugnut's role, also the name lugnut was gonna be called knock out's name but was changed because the name lugnut is too sexy
    earthspark soundwave is a combination of g1 and prime
    prime megatron is a combination of g1 and bayverse
    prime starscream's japanese voice actor voiced cyberverse starscream in the japanese dub

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  2 місяці тому

      Wait Lugnut as in the Big Bomber Plane? How was he going to be Breakdown but with Lockdown's name? I am Confoosed.

    • @harrishyatt6283
      @harrishyatt6283 2 місяці тому

      @@PerspectiveEnd yes, but prime lugnut turned into a flying vehicle

  • @MalayDea
    @MalayDea 4 місяці тому +3

    Let's all watch the TF Prime YTPs instead!

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  4 місяці тому

      If you don't like this one, I've done roasts of most of the Transformers Series, from G1 to Beast Wars, to the Movies.

  • @ThomasKarisko
    @ThomasKarisko Рік тому +1

    that roast really put a smile on my face today my favorite part was the last bit with prime and you know a netflix wfc roast would be fun

  • @rickyrackey7930
    @rickyrackey7930 11 місяців тому +3

    Besides Optimus Prime, Peter Cullen also voiced a few terrorcons in episodes.

  • @strahinjastrahinja2447
    @strahinjastrahinja2447 Рік тому +5

    Say what you want but this shockwave has one of bets arm guns finally actual arm cannon and not whatever in hell was g1 one supposed to be

  • @Gregory_ferrandis
    @Gregory_ferrandis 5 місяців тому +2

    Arcee was basically every 2000s kid childhood crush

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  5 місяців тому

      I don't know why. She's a Frigid robot.

  • @younglinc9950
    @younglinc9950 Рік тому +3

    1:25 Optimus on a bulk

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +2

      On a Bulk without dropping all the fat he built for it yet.

  • @m0stlyGh0sty
    @m0stlyGh0sty Рік тому +4

    Honestly most of these designs just don't strike strong emotions out of me, they just kind of exist. I think the only cool designs to come out of it are Soundwave and Knockout. Arcee is overrated as hell imo, and my lack of interest in her character or love for her design (that really should be chromia) just makes me like her less with how popular she is.

  • @JKenn
    @JKenn Рік тому +2

    Okay, Black Arachnia is more than just a naked woman. She's a naked woman wearing a MF DOOM mask...

  • @samsthebeztatstuff8885
    @samsthebeztatstuff8885 5 місяців тому +2

    I assume you didn’t roast bumblebee since his design is basically the same as his movie version

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  5 місяців тому

      No... I flat forgot that he exists in prime because he has no character.

  • @Jetblast01
    @Jetblast01 Рік тому +6

    Oooh I clicked so fast on this one. Yeah, Armada Prime was more of a war-time general but he had much more personality, he was still expressive and had fun while also sharing words of wisdom without always sounding like a monotone bore. And didn't wear stripper shorts...even Fatimus Prime in Energon was that drill Sargent who gained beer weight after the war but still could kick your ass and would call Kicker's mother to pick him up if he misbehaved.
    Animated Prowl did the motorcycle design perfectly, had both wheels in the legs and no 3rd wheelin bs.
    Bulkhead's Animated design was better...also Bulky do hang with young girls quite a bit.
    The "I needed that" joke wasn't that funny, except the time Bulkhead mocked him for it "What, you needed that?"
    I think every Megatron was about being the one to personally beat Optimus Prime out of ego, because Armada Megatron saw Optimus turn to space dust and he went to depression mode. This Megatron is bit of a joke because he's a druggy hopped up on space crack made from blood of the robot devil. Surprised you didn't mention Megatron's drug addiction since that was like a big plotpoint even when they went after Unicron.
    Everyone salty about non-G1 designs some characters are in other TF shows, but suddenly everyone giving Arcee who has one of the more drastic departures a pass? Yeah, okay...let's not check your browsing history.
    Speaking of Unicron...having him as the planet Earth...really? At least G1 and UT had him as this planet wiping monster. Granted one had him a Frankenstein's monster going solo and the other an Eldritch abomination that eats planets and transformers like something out of Prometheus while having a baller toy. And god..."Aligned continuity" is so pretentious. Even Thew admits to mentally checking out when hearing that. It tried to go so big on that but botched as bad as the Japanese making Galaxy Force a reboot instead of trilogy like they planned but not as hard as how Beast Machines killed momentum of BWII and BW Neo from the West. We lost Transformers Animated in favor of Prime and the HUB network that also colossally flopped...honestly, would've rather had Season 4 Animated. It'd be the 1st TF series with a proper 4th season, no the Rebirth doesn't count since even THAT was cut from 5 to 3 episodes so it's more like a rushed TV movie or special like Cyberverse.

    • @Jetblast01
      @Jetblast01 Рік тому +3

      The vehicon designs are pretty cool. Shame they're intentionally generic even more than the generic Seekers. TF Devastation had more interesting grunt troops, and they were based on existing characters like Runabout/Runamuck or the Seekers.
      Let's not even get started on the faux forming...people complain about the movie transformations? At least those look like it makes sense the way it worked there! At least for the 1st few movies...here it's just mass shifting almost as obvious as G1 Soundwave in the pilot and just parts coming out of nowhere. These were never meant to properly be made into toys, you can kinda tell where which part is meant to be what, but invokes more the MP-44 Optimus where only a small part of his vehicle mode is actually used as the robot mode and isn't folded in. Energon was a clunky CG mess, but the transformations still made sense, yes even Energon Arcee being more like the spirit of the original character people like to go on about than the blue variant.
      Yes, I got plenty to say on this series, what of it? I'm open for a collab.

  • @awesomeguy9513
    @awesomeguy9513 Рік тому +5

    The one annoying thing for me was bumblebee stupid voice gimmick they did at least explain it but it’s still annoying though the show. Then on the other end sound waves silence kinda sucked too like the one time he spoke it sounded good but the edgy self imposed silence like having him rag on starscream or knockout would’ve been funny
    As for starscream actually a good leader he went after large energon veins, artifacts, called up knockout and brakdown, almost got a win with makeshift like if he didn’t leave vehicles and just had a bunch of cameras and alarms makeshift might’ve succeeded, but the one thing I thought on is skyquake. Starscream did revive him but skyquake was to stupidly loyal to megatron to actually listen to him and died for it but megatron didn’t really call for any decepticon and probably would’ve left skyquake to rot if it wasn’t for starscream

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +1

      I'm so sick of the Voice Gimmick. It's so stupid.
      We stan Starscream here.

    • @awesomeguy9513
      @awesomeguy9513 Рік тому +1

      @@PerspectiveEnd at some point I believe after getting energon and being fed up with the autobots starscream would’ve went hey these guys have no means of travelling off world and went back to cybertron and start rebuilding way before the omega key arc.
      While there is the forge hammer on earth either 1 starscream would be long gone and far into rebuilding by the time prime finds it or 2 starscream would get to it before or during prime finds it cause it was knockout, breakdown, and I think megatron or dreadwind that took it just replace megatron/dreawind with starscream and a small army of seekers.

  • @Receptive9629
    @Receptive9629 Рік тому +3

    I do not like soundwaves design

  • @mecharaptor8.535
    @mecharaptor8.535 Рік тому +3

    Considering that Bulkhead hangs out with pubescent girls, I’m surprised he hasn’t been featured on To Catch A Predator.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +2

      He did, but they didn't think he showed up since he stayed in altmode the whole time so the segment never aired.

  • @JirmmyJumbaTheJellyMan
    @JirmmyJumbaTheJellyMan Рік тому +2

    characters spared from PerspectiveEnd’s wrath:
    -waspinator
    -inferno
    -knockout

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +1

      Bumblebee here too. There were a few honestly. But let's not say spared.
      I didn't call out any of them as spared, and I did kind of mock Knockout while talking about Shockwave.

  • @pancho855
    @pancho855 Рік тому +1

    I... wha...?
    Also, "fight me"? EVERYONE ALREADY DOES THAT

  • @samsthebeztatstuff8885
    @samsthebeztatstuff8885 6 місяців тому +2

    Who has the best design in the show

  • @t24gamer
    @t24gamer Рік тому +6

    Overrated ahh show

  • @sirrobert3694
    @sirrobert3694 10 місяців тому +1

    You forgot "fortunately, I know a delicate lockpicking technique:"
    "BAM"

  • @speedflashanimations221
    @speedflashanimations221 Місяць тому +1

    the funny thing is
    in rid2015 its revealed in darkmount they infact had weapons that could Kill predacons
    they had weapons that can kill predacons and didnt use it on autobots
    so you are probably right on megatron begin a bad leader

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Місяць тому +1

      He'd have to be to forget those, but there's plenty other info that proves that already.

  • @Bunbiichuffn
    @Bunbiichuffn Рік тому +3

    Breakdown's forearms are infuriating. Just the way their armor is placed is just... confusing. Why would they be like that??

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +3

      I feel that way about a lot of these, "Like why would it be that way, it's just going to get caught on stuff all the time."

  • @j-sant-animations8105
    @j-sant-animations8105 Рік тому +2

    Bruh upgraded optimus makes me claustrophobic with how hes too thicc for his own articulaion. I didnt mind the alternate mode but like a high moon bot has better chances to high kick than prime

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +2

      That's one of my problems with this show. Their bodies look like curses they are trapped in.

    • @j-sant-animations8105
      @j-sant-animations8105 Рік тому

      @@PerspectiveEnd relatable

  • @jku9936
    @jku9936 7 місяців тому +1

    To put your "I needed that" comment into perspective(hehe), imagine if it went like this:
    Season 1 Ratchet: (annoyed) Bulkhead, I needed that
    Season 3 Ratchet: (legitimately pissed off): BULKHEAD, I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU
    *Proceeds to rip into the pour guy*

  • @framerate6455
    @framerate6455 Рік тому +2

    in todays video, perspective said what we've all been thinking but to afraid to say

  • @sushiserpent2990
    @sushiserpent2990 Рік тому +3

    This was the series I grew up with and remember liking it alot. Shame it's not on Netflix any more, I don't have paramount or whatever it's on.

    • @sushiserpent2990
      @sushiserpent2990 Рік тому +2

      I'm surprised you didn't talk about smokescreen or whatever he's called, even I remember him being annoying.

    • @PerspectiveEnd
      @PerspectiveEnd  Рік тому +1

      The funny thing is Smokescreen is one of the better characters in the end. He has an Arc and a Personality.
      Also I was mostly only doing the S1 characters here.
      You can watch the show on "WatchCartoonOnline"

  • @yonderjam
    @yonderjam Рік тому +1

    Thoughts on these designs.
    Optimus Prime: this is literally what AOE/TLK Prime should have looked like. A top heavy freak of a design.
    Chunkimus Prime: I bet he only had the X-axis increased to make him look like the WFC game's version more.
    Chromiarcee: This is Arcee. THIS IS ARCEE?! Compared to Rise of the Beasts' Arcee-1, where the colours of Elita work for the design and they didn't change the general shape of the character.
    Bulkhead: the chest just reminds me of the version of him from AOE/TLK pretending to be Hound.
    Ratchet: What is wrong with his forearms. He needed better ones, alongside a better joke.
    Breakdown: he decided to be buff so he didn't have to be made out of a Legacy Wildrider.
    Shockwave: (other than the head) this works better as a movie shockwave than the DOTM version.
    Soundknife: the only thing he has that is somewhat cool is when he's just creepy, but Tarantulas called because he's jealous of how skinny this guy is despite the attempts at eeriness. Also, I nicknamed him Soundknife due to the arms that he uses to slice pizzas.
    Megatron: I personally love the face due to adding more humanity to the bay version's face, while keeping the Sharp teeth to make him more monstrous than he actually is. The only time a more humanoid face than the prime version works IMO is the Beast Wars Megatron.
    Starscream: I think that skinny Starscream doesn't work. He's a jet, so the skinny body just looks stupid. By contrast, the Bumblebee movie seeker designs are just perfect as they keep them somewhat humanoid and thin whilst being big and imposing, as Starscream's should be.