Roasting Dark of the Moon
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- In today's video, I spend way too long talking about the backstory on the design of a character.
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It's actually fortunate that they changed the character to Sentinel, it was apparently originally going to be Ultra Magnus.
One of the better decisions made
Oh yeah that was a thing.
surprised they didnt do a blue repaint and slapped Ultra Magnus on it
Yeh
@@c4r10s2 Imagine that Happens in the Studio Series, I'd pick that up!
What angers me most about Soundwave’s design is the fact that the Mercedes SLS 2011 that Soundwave transforms into also came in a blue color, closer to Soundwave’s color and in my opinion, a prettier color. This would also help distinguish Soundwave from the other Decepticons, as he is a fan favorite.
Yeah, but you see that would have looked like Soundwave, and the movies can't have that.
That's shitty...honestly, one of the biggest design flaws in the Bayverse characters was the monotony of colors. So many shades of gray characters!
What pains me about Soundwave is his car came in a blue, he could have been blue but they went with silver…
I swear they just didn't because they were trying to not look right.
Why Sentinel wasn't Alpha Trion I've zero clue.
Such a strong resemblance. Even has the cape.
But then everyone would complain about Alpha Trion being villainized and inaccurate to his original characterization
But then everyone would complain that Alpha Trion was out of character and completely unlike his original incarnation. Ya can't win with the Bayverse, folks.
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho I'd have been fine with it. Always hated A3 anyways. Generic sage waste of space. Less a character & more a utility.
Stranger still, his original name was going to stain our favorite car carrier.
Yep, he was supposed to be Bayified Ultra Magnus.
Yeah he was clearly designed to look like him, but they went with the wrong name. Presumably because they realized that they were too accurate to Trion, so they couldn't have that. The characters can not look like they are supposed to.
It really is weird that they spent so long modeling characters only to hide them in the background. Almost as weird as the fact that Barricade survived the whole series, simply because they kept forgetting to kill him off.
Honestly, all the power to CGI artists, as they did good job, and it is Michael Bay that didn't do them justice
That and the action figures they made for him, not for if he appeared in rotf, I mean they literally made a human alliance action figure for his appearance in cyber missions, also originally he was supposed to be Sideways in rotf according to some comic writers on the tie into the film.
Yeah, all the Cybertronians are so barely there they have like a combined 10 minutes of Screen time if they are BB or Prime.
@@PerspectiveEnd They focus on human characters who literally don’t grow to any different than transformers who you don’t know how they became this specific rank, man to think we were going to get 14 more of these films a millennia ago like it’s DCEU.
Yeah, facial hair on Transformers is definitely weird, but I absolutely love the fact that everyone blames these films for it when G1 had it on one of their most prominent characters (Alpha Trion). Love the content as per usual. Keep up the good work
I dislike human specific features being on alien robots as it just doesn't make sense. But i can understand why as every continuity needs to look appealing
However having facial hair, or just hair in general is retarded. Goes for all continuities. No wonder Galvatron always sacrifices his sweeps, their style sucks
The only reason for facial hair is if you have established in the lore that they are made of a living metal
@@0pt1tr0nD27 it's not that. Most of the facial hair we always see is metal anyways. It's just that why? Why do alien robots light years away from earth happen to look like the main inhabitants of earth??
@@ilikepigeons6101 yeah bro the shapeshift alien robots make sense but i just cant get over the facial hair
"You cannot disprove a joke." Love that line.
Always assumed Dino was a half-attempt at a Sideswipe, but that might just be my brain still equating color patterns with persona, as losing color is usually the surest sign that a given cybertronian is dead, not mostly dead, not partially dead, but full on dead. Nothing about Dino would ever have made me guess Mirage. That would be like someone giving me a barbarian played my Dwayne Johnson and saying , "Inspired by Madame Curie". I think I'd have to fight an aneurism in synaptic protest.
But yes, that Einstein cryptid people say was an attempt at Wheeljack is cursed so bad it will never get a seat on the council of infinite Wheeljacks in my brain, at least.
It’s funny because Dino was actually called Mirage in the game
Also I think for bayverse live action laserbeak’s design was decent for the interpretation. Not great, but at least it wasn’t not wheeljack
We don't talk about Que, who is not at all Wheeljack.
And yeah I wish they didn't call Dino that in the game, it would have rubbed his stink off on Mirage less.
As for Laserbeak, it could have been fine, if the movies EVER made anything consistent.
Decepticons never looked like they belonged on Earth before him.
@@PerspectiveEnd there's actually a japan exclusive que repaint that has a wheeljack like head, it's the nicer version
@@PerspectiveEnd yeah, design wise this film was a mess but out of the 5 this was probably the best one out of the lot ngl
I think the "teeth" on Que are supposed to be a mustache, though it's hard not to see them as teeth and it's hardly less horrific even if you do
But then he's got like, only lower teeth. And they just look the same but smaller.
@@PerspectiveEnd one row of demonic teeth is less bad than 2 I guess
This video made me realise something very strange,
Michael bay refuses to have characters with no mouth. Every character in g1 who had no mouth had a mouth in bayverse. Optimus, soundwave, shockwave, grimlock, and literally every construction has a mouth in bayverse.
Yep, there was a weird Refusal to do all of the coolest things honestly.
@@PerspectiveEnd Not to mention it would save a bit on the design and animating budget. Don’t have to animate lips moving when a faceplate is over them.
Optimus had a mouth over half a decade before the Bayverse
RotF Soundwave had a faceplate if memory serves, which makes him losing his defining trait for DotM even mkre baffling
Talking about the Dreads, I kinda like the idea of the Dreads themselves, I see them as maybe as experiments by a Decepticon scientist who experimented on some protoforms and made them look like monsters. But I think them looking like monsters plays into the complaint about the Decepticons just being monsters which means that the Decepticons are apparently a different species from the Autobots which makes no sense. I kinda like the red color as well as the blades on Mirage's design, something about it just makes it look cool for me. I however don't like Shockwave's design, I just don't like the rib cage. Also, talking about Que, the idea of making him look like Albert Einstein came from Steven Speilberg. I honestly hate the fact that Que is supposed to be Wheeljack which is why I loved it when they killed him off, though his death was kind of sad.
Yeah the dreads don't stand out as being different enough to be special. Like all the cons are some kind of unholy freaks.
And yes, we do not refer to Que by that name because he was not called that. They had the mercy on us to make that Abomination a separate entity.
Cool idea. But how i would of done it is make them entirely a new species of cybertronian origin.
My favorite scene of this movie is when the Autobots faked their deaths and didn’t do their counterattack until the Decepticons decimated most of Chicago.
My favorite part is when Optimus prime rips out shockwave's eyes somehow killing him instead of making it impossible to see
My favorite part is when the credits roll
My favorite part is when they tease Stascream being alive and it going nowhere
@@MrTryHardC they didn’t tho
@@wsmstudio3329 There was an end credits scene with his head blinking
Honestly I really love it when robots have capes
Oh I'm not knocking Capes. I'm just saying this guy needed to tone don't how obviously evil he was.
I actually kinda like Leadfoot’s design, mostly because of his stocky build and red deco. But I do agree the Target brand crotch armor(tm) is a stupid decision, especially since he can only ever be a Target exclusive figure thanks to this, and these figures become WAY more expensive on the aftermarket than they would be had the Target logo not been there.
Thanks, Michael Bay!
Also I’m kinda excited to see how you’re gonna roast Transformers Prime eventually. It is one of my favorite shows of all time, but I still think the designs are open to PerspectiveEnd treatment.
I also think he would have benifited from a less dumpy build, like let him be dumpy but that gut only would get in the way and he should have no reason to suffer that as a robot.
I will get to prime eventually.
@@PerspectiveEnd some starting tips
Megatrons eyes
Starscreams high heels
Shockwave beefiness
And primes gorilla arms
I really like the dotm wreckers mainly because i love NASCAR which btw the wreckers are modeled after nascar fan stereotypes like roadbuster has a baseball cap, topspin has a mullet, leadfoot has A beer gut and the all have like sunglasses and Dino's blades can like rotate and spin
That's Supposed to be a Fucking Baseball cap! And yes I could tell that they were supposed to be stereotypes and unflattering ones at that. Man Bay just can't make a movie without insulting a section of the population.
@PerspectiveEnd If they wanted to make them stereotypes then they would have given them southern hick accents
Instead they made them Scottish
Looking forward to the animated roast whenever it happens :D
Seems like it will be next time.
i love this movie and this video made me genuinly laugh
I'm glad to hear that I was able to bring you the funnie.
I like the part when Michael Bay said "It's Insulting Time" and insulted the Transformers fanbase, truly one of the TF moments of all time
Oh man that was almost as good as when he said "It's Racism Time" And then hit a minority with his, Racist Bassist.
3:59 why do you have such a beautiful way of saying the most memorable quotes? I just keep saying that in my head over and over again.
I don't know that I would call that beautiful, but I'm glad you enjoyed it.
My versions of soundwave technically has a face, it was heavily damaged, he didn’t think he was worthy of getting it fixed (makes sense in story context) but he still doesn’t want anyone else to see it, though not just for self esteem, it’s to make him more intimidating
I mean I think in basically all fiction there is supposed to be a face under the plate, it's just hidden.
Something that confuses me is that in DoTM they gave Optimus a sixpack.
They went to the effort to change his design, to give him a robot sixpack, this was thousands of dollars spent to slightly change the design.
Anyway I would like to see a review of Siege Prowl/Bluestreak/Silverstreak.
No its DoTM. Check for yourself.
Don’t correct someone without double checking first.
I don't know that I'd call that a 6 pack but it is Reminiscent of one, and that's because "Look at Optimus's Sick Gains BRO!" It's because the film makers were douchebags. Plain and simple.
@@PerspectiveEnd OP had abs in G1
@@fduranthesee It was his grill
what always got to me was that movie Soundwave was never blue... even though, apprently the car they used for him only came in metalic blue or silver
I swear they do it on purpose. They just wanted to mess with us.
9:16 Huh, so that’s why most of the other continuity designs look like their wearing helmets. (Which brings up the question on what were they thinking when they gave Windblade a hairstyle)
She doesn't quite have a hairstyle, just a head that looks like hair. There are no separate strands or anything. And I don't think there's supposed to be hair under anyone's helmet.
What's shocking to me is that they got Lenoard Nemoy to agree to another transformers movie and DIDN'T use him for Galvatron...
To be fair... Sentinel's defining character trait for the longest time was having an inconsistent character design, being a random blue and yellow unnamed character credited as "U-haul robot" in the G1 cartoon who used a flail and shield, an orange robot in the g1 comics, and an orange Robot who was dubiously moral in the IDW comics...
Ironically, He's the default replacement bot when writers wanted to use a more beloved character as an antagonist but get shot down by Hasbro execs. Sentinel Prime in Animated was originally going to be Rodimus, and in DotM was going to be Ultra Magnus....
Yeah that is dumb.
Pretty sure they only stated Calling him Sentinel AFTER the Animated version.
I can see why they made both those decisions, though they would be interesting ones.
I remember as a kid thinking that DOTM was the coolest movie ever! Then I rewatched it about a week ago and while I still enjoy it, it was so much worse than I remembered.
And despite their many many flaws, I feel like the Shia Le Bouffe movies at least have some little reason to exist, but I really wish Michael Bay had stopped there because I think the Mark Walberg ones are trash.
So, can't wait for an Age of extinction and Last Knight roast!
Great video and I 100% agree with your opinion on the Wheeljack/ Que design. That guy freaked me out as a kid. Come to think of it, there was a ton of stuff in this movie that freaked me out as a kid: Ironhide's death, Que's face and death, Shockwave's worm, Sentinel's death, humans getting disintegrated, etc.
Yeah these movies weren't for kids, and I'm glad you still enjoy it, but I'm also glad that you can see the flaws more clearly now as you now see why I'm not crazy for how I feel about this stuff.
It's amazing how Soundwave redused from a satellite to Mercedes. Also: this model of Mercedes could be blue. Just saying.
*Scourge laughing at every robo having hair in this movie far away*
It would however a blue mercedes would have ruined the plot twist, seeing blue soundwave in that Africa scene. As awesome as would be
@@ilikepigeons6101 Dramatic irony. We the audience would be able to piece together that Soundwave was the Mercedes if he was blue. But if anyone looked closely at his chest when he appeared in Africa, we would still know Soundwave was the Mercedes.
Yes, it's just so dumb that they couldn't make our boi blue.
@@jaydonmagan4694 untrue. The animators deliberately had the mercedes logo shadowed
@@ilikepigeons6101 You could still make out the car parts-specifically the front-which doesn’t change much. In the movie, we know Soundwave is silver, so he has to be a silver car. The only silver car we see with a similar front to Soundwave’s chest is the Mercedes. Hiding out the logo isn’t as clever of a tactic when you know what the rest of the car parts look like, and what car those parts belong to.
For some reason Shockwave in this movie looks like a fallout enemy
I kind of feel you on that.
I think lazerbeak looks good, but I agree we need stricter rules for what a transformer can scan and when they can scan it. In animated they needed there ship to remformat them which made sense to me
Same as G1. I'm far more partial to it being a whole Medical Procedure, than something they can just do.
This slightly hurts cause Sentinel Prime is my favorite character from the movies and DOTM is my favorite live action transformers movie...
It's ok to laugh at the things you like, and funny you are the second person in a row to say Sentinel is your favorite. What makes you like them so much?
@@PerspectiveEnd It was kinda funny to watch lol. And I think it's because he was one of my first transformers toys when I was younger and also cause the idea of him being good then turning bad I really liked for some reason. Also cause he is voiced by Leonard Nimoy who also voiced Galvatron in the 1986 Transformers movie and is just awesome!
Fun fact about que, in every other piece of tie-in movie media except the movies so the comics and some of the toys he was referred to as wheeljack
I am aware, it is pretty obvious who he was supposed to be, but I like to pretend I don't know that because it hurts me.
You don't know how much i've waited for this, THANK YOU!
I'm glad to have satisfied.
Soundwave's face looking like a sangheili is pretty great lol
Thank you so much!
I cannot recall a single thing about this movie other than the part where Optimus kills Sentinel and Megatron. I'm patiently waiting for the day when you review TF Prime :D
I will review Prime after 10K, as for the movie, yeah there is nothing Memorable about the Films.
@@PerspectiveEnd I don't know man, Wheelie humping Mikaela's leg in RoTF was pretty memorable.
Honestly, I Really like Crankcases Design. The Animalistic Headsculpt and The shoulder Spikes really work for me.
I mean it makes sense you like it, they ripped off one of the most popular science fiction aliens of all time to make his design.
0:00 pective end: so I’m sorry if there’s a unskiple ad at the beginning
Me with UA-cam premium: what ads?
Or anyone with Addblock.
i always love when you make these videos.
Happy to entertain.
The blades on dino can actually flip around so the pointy part is facing his hands
To ready my self for this video, I watched Every Scene he has in the movie, (There are youtube channels dedicated to doing that) and that was not an ability he displayed. He could throw them out on chains though.
And remember... Jokes.
@@PerspectiveEnd my bad if I sounded a bit rude when that came out but I'm pretty sure he does in the shot showing all the bots fighting during the Chicago's battle. Specifically when he's impaling one of the protoforms.
If Bay’s goal was to make designs with the most shitty hairstyles imaginable, he should’ve made a transformer design with a bowl cut
Didn't Topspin have one
@@Leo-oc4qe pretty sure that's a mullet
@@digitusmagnus8473 oh my bad, didn't see the back of his head
My face when you think the Bowl Cut is worse than the Mullet.
@@PerspectiveEnd it really depends on the person's face imo
Prime's trailer in this movie is probably the best incarnation of the G1 style Optimus Trailer. I mean it can become both a Weapon Rack and a big fuck off winged Jetpack.
It does at least do something.
Wanna know what the worst part of Dino is? In the DS game for Dark of the Moon, you fight him multiple times. But in every fight, despite having Dino's design, the game still tells you to quote "Defeat Mirage". Even the game's developers refused to address them as such due to how stupid of a change it was.
That's gotta be part of why his stink clings to Mirage's name.
Perspective End, I want to personally thank you......for making me laugh so hard at 4:07 about Leadfoot, that my boss and coworkers at work started laughing at my losing my crap over something that shouldn't even be funny to me to begin with. Granted, my boss told me that she needed something to make her laugh, but as the saying goes "There's a time and place for everything", and laughing my behind off at work doesn't exactly feel like a good time and place. Seriously, I laughed so hard that I ended up sweating after the whole ordeal.
I'm happy to hear that. Glad to have given you that experience even if it was a bit awkward to have at work.
Unskipable ad? Dude theres no ad in the start lmao.
I got a skippable one
Yes, there will be a Skippable adds as well, it's just that there are unskippable ones that can pop up too
This video was my introduction to PerspectiveEnd's channel❤
I don’t get why my
Original only problem with the designs is that they can’t smile despite having more realistic faces, and that there kibble was just any vehcile random shards of metal
That is an interesting issue to have taken with the old toy. Especially since they didn't smile too much in the movies.
Sentinel’s movie design always remembered me more of Alpha Trion than Sentinel himself ir Ultra Magnus
Yeah it was clearly based on Trion basically just to Fuck with audiences because they can't have characters look like them selves.
@@PerspectiveEnd endeed
Crowbar is trying to see if he can pull of the MK cyber ninja look with his dreads cause that's what it reminds me of
I mean the Dreads on them are a bad idea too, but at least they are shorter and tighter. His dreads cover the entire width of his body.
Ngl, this is my favourite film and DOTM Sentinel Prime is up there with TFA Blackarachnia for my favourite TF character, but this did make me incredibly happy. Your content always makes me smile
Thank you, I'm glad to hear that. What makes you like Sentinel so much?
@@PerspectiveEnd to be honest mate, I think most of it the nostalgia attached to him as I had his voyager in 2011 and he was my Ultra Magnus for a while if you will. But other than that, I love how he was portrayed as being Optimus' mentor for years, but having a plan with Megatron, knowing that would lead to his team losing just for his planet and race to survive. Plus, he made Megatron a sort of hero as he wasn't really in charge of the operation and it was just Sentinel, so Megatron had a chance to be hero like by wounding Sentinel. No one else has made Megatron save Prime and it gave Megatron a humane feel with an actual character, if the movie bots were characters. So, for that, I love Sentinel Prime so much
dino's arm blades can flip around , and detatch to be used as grapling hooks.
1 A feature he never used in the movie except for a blink and you'll miss it scene to intimidate some humans, and 2 only used that feature 1 time in the movie and it really didn't hurt his opponent.
Biggest issue I have with Q is, like with Mirage/Dino, Q is supposed to be Wheeljack. How is that Wheeljack?! And strange thing, Sentinal Prime reminds me more of Alpha Trion than anything else. Think about it. Red is part of his colour scheme, he had facial hair in G1, something resembling a cape and he was Optimus' mentor. Animated was the only incidence I can think of where Optimus and Sentinal knew each other. It's like they took one characters name, another appearance and gave him a personality unlike either of them. It just sucks
Que is not Wheeljack, they had the mercy to not say that in the movie, so we can take the mercy, the Stink of Que has not Clung to Wheeljack like Dino did to Mirage, so lets take the mercy and pretend Que never happened.
And yes, I find it hilarious that they designed Alpha Trion but then realized it looked too much like him, and since they couldn't have a character that looked like who they were supposed to they changed his name to someone else.
I know we're struggling through the 2020's and all the special people who make it so wonderful, but if they have trouble with you roasting these movies no amount of explaining will reach them.
you might realize PerspectiveEnd half of fan base wants the bayverse to comeback because rise of the beasts reviews was like finding something that passed in your bathtub
I don't think that's true, but you will get no argument from me that RotB was good. That movie was brutally mid.
yeah, people on both sides of the fandom are battling each other for what to do for the transformers movies
Thank you for this upload
You are more than welcome.
Yeah, Sentinel Prime looks so evil infact I don't even know how he is affiliated with the Autobot. Crankcase is definitely robo Predator. I don't even know how they got away with it. Yeah, you didn't even talk about Que teeth, look at it! Anyway, Bayformers still have a special place in my heart and a little bit of roast wouldn't harm. Great video.
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it even if you still like the movies.
The next seige figure would be seige spinster, you have talked about it in a few videos, but haven't made a video about
I mean I did cover his Redeco in Rotorstorm.
Ironhide's death was why he didn't appear in transformers prime
Wheeljack/que's death was originally mirage/dino's death
Interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
@harrishyatt6283, in my version of Dark of the Moon directed by Christopher Nolan, Ironhide lives and Skids and Mudflap appear in my version in both robot and vehicle mode and are the only autobots killed by Sentinel in my version of DOTM. Karl Urban is casted for the voice of Ironhide in my version of DOTM.
Dino sould have been cliffjumper
What makes you say that?
@@PerspectiveEnd just look at him he just needs a new head and remove the colar bones on his shoulders and here is RED BUMBLEBEE ( cliffjumper) because micheal bay would do that to cliffjumper just look at bumblebee
Ah yes, a movie where optimus slaughtered megatron and sentinal to *death*
“Yes…that’s what slaughter means”
While they begged.
He's not stupid enough to let them live
@@PerspectiveEnd And ironically Prime was begging at Sentinel too.
While I warmed myself to agree with some of your points of the designs of the bayverse from this vid and last vids about bayverse(while i liked those designs, I could see people not liking it due to it looking too alien). Tbh I dont think Sentinel Prime disrespects the TFA Sentinel as a character(not by design) since DOTM sentinel is way interesting as a character.
He's talking about designs not individual characters themselves silly
What's funny is that's not even quite who they were disrespecting, since this was clearly designed to be Alpha Trion, but they changed the name Sentinel Prime I guess just because they were not willing to ever have a character with the correct appearance.
@@ilikepigeons6101 oh sorry my bad, still it does not disrespect tfa sentinel design wise either
In ROTF I noticed the movies started adding more characters in red for each following movie for ex: Overload, Scavenger, Devastator, Dino, Sentinel Prime, Leadfoot, Stinger, the KSI Trax robot, and one of the knights was red in TLK.
What do you mean they started adding them in red?
@@PerspectiveEnd I mean the characters I listed are all colored red. I forgot to mention Rampage (not Skipjack, that name is retarded), I can't be the only one to notice it brought about some sort of gimmick.
I’m not gonna google what a fupa is nore do I want you to explain, but pretty sure that target is on his belly
That's a wise idea. Stay pure.
Honestly, I don't think it's too out of character for Shockwave to own a gigantic horrifying creature as his pet to use for wreaking havoc upon the Autobots.
I personally feel that Michael bay didn't fuck up on Shockwaves design that much but instead put all his power into making the abomination Named DOC and the fact he was supposed to Wheeljack still fucking surprises me.
Doc? You mean Que? And yes Shockwave is at least intimidating looking.
@@PerspectiveEnd Que? I always remembered him being called Doc . Weird maybe I was to blinded by his hideous face to care
Despite me liking SOME of these designs, it’s always fun to watch you rip into them. Anyway what are your thoughts on movie Jazz?
I was wondering when we’d see another one of these.
Always leave em wanting more, and wondering when it will come.
Do you like Sentinel prime design?
Not really no. It's too much Alpha Trion and it looks too human in the face. The robot body is what ever though.
These movies never fail to find new ways to disrespect any and all source material while also not making any improvements on it. In all honesty, Dino has some strange and unrealistic design choices but I think manages to actually look like a transformer. When you look where certain car parts end up the illusion can break a bit but he probably has one of the best designs in this movie, which isn’t saying much. I don’t care about him and most of the characters that show up but he feels like an alright original character(not really original but sort of) for the movie. I’m glad that we got some good designs in the bumblebee movie which will hopefully stick around in RoTB
I will give him the credit at least that he stood out from the background, but he looked incredibly generic outside of that. Like he could have been a background Bot or Con no one would bat an eye.
@@PerspectiveEnd I will agree on how generic he actually looks, I’m not a big fan of most of the Michael Bay designs and don’t care about Dino especially, but I do feel that he is one of the very few who didn’t look hideous. I’m glad that were done with those designs on the big screen at least for now and that the movies have now taken from the good parts of their roots and expanded on it even though there are still flaws here and there.
@@PerspectiveEnd Also R.I.P to his voice actor who actually died a month after the film was released in 2011.
Star she and unrealistic? You mean like majority of the BBM designs?
@@kingslayerx1716 I don’t know why you bothered replying to a comment I made 4 months ago about my thoughts on a character design but I’ll explain anyway. The Bay movie designs take designs that are almost always impossible to turn into an actual vehicle and make it just morph nonsensically into something else. I grew up watching these movies alongside g1, prime, and animated so I am used to changing designs for characters but if you analyze how characters like dotm Megatron transform or Aoe Optimus, it doesn’t work in a practical sense. Looking at Dino, he looks like he transforms but the car parts end up in places that just don’t make sense in the context of the vehicle he turns into. The bumblebee movie designs aren’t perfect in these aspects either as well as shows like prime sometimes, but everything seems throughout to a degree in which the way it transforms mostly makes sense. That was my main point, I know you didn’t really bring this up so I’m sorry for dragging this out longer but what I mean by it disrespecting the source material is that it takes characters and gives their names to characters they are not designed to be in both appearance and personality. There are characters I like from the movies but most of them have no relation to their original counterparts, almost always in a more negative manner. Like why does devastator look and function completely different from any prior counterpart and have OVERHAUL BALLS where a person’s balls would be be, especially when no constructicon has overhaul balls.
"Wheeljack" is based on Albert Einstein. Why they would do that, I don't know. Nor do I want to know
I think they should have leaned into the more robotic faces instead of making them more human. Why make them more human if you can’t do expressions
I mean I think the opposite, they should have made the faces more human so their expressions are more readable.
It’s strange, in the transformers multiverse, there are infinite possibilities
But the one thing that remains consistent, is that sentinel prime is a corrupt jerk
How strange, I was waiting for jokes about Megatron with his damaged face and hood.
I mean it's the same Megatron as before with a facial injury, I don't see the comedy potential in that just like with Igor. You can't really poke fun at something that's intended to be broken already.
7:39 those are supposed to act like boom box speakers, And They actually do that in the film, If you ask Where They came from... You know already
Man I watched all the clips of him from the movie for this, and at no point did I notice those in use.
@@PerspectiveEnd they were just an inconsequential detail, not for practical use
The OG DOTM Shockwave toy was one of the only movie toys I bought & the only one of a G1 character.
See that's what always motivated me to not get the movie stuff, I know the G1 character and they are the ones I like.
Shockwave has to be my favorite out of the DOTM robots
Weirdly he's probably the most accurate looking despite looking little like him self, and at least he is intimidating.
Just remember that when Michael Bay made these movies, they were made with the same 2000s directorial style where it was simultaneously embarrassed by the source material that it just threw out the original designs and just did their own thing by making up their own designs because they were too embarrassed by the designs that had come before. I mean, that scene where Bee smashes his car door into that Volkswagen in the first movie was clearly a jab at the G1 design just like how comic book movies from the 2000s would make fun of the source material to make themselves seem cooler which I fucking hate. But now, with modern-day comic book movies embracing the comic book designs and giving their characters comic accurate suits, I hope Transformers follows the same footsteps and gives their characters accurate designs and are not ashamed of its source material.
You know what I never thought to compare the TF movies to the Xmen movies but you've given me something to think about. Thanks.
crankcase appeared in the tf1 toyline looking like cybertron red alert's original body but with g1 crankcase colors, when annouced sentinel prime and shockwave were gonna appear in dotm people thought shockwave was gonna be dotm's main villain, when we saw the ark people thought omega supreme because animated omega supreme turned into the ark, omega supreme was gonna appear in tf4 as the ark when we saw the ark in tlk get removed from the moon it turned out ark was not omega supreme
Yeah a lot of the UT showed up in the Early Movie toylines, because they needed to pad the numbers on them.
wheeljack was gonna appear in tf1 but was cut, but he did appear in the tf1 psp video game
I'm sure he looked nothing like he was supposed to right?
K I’m gonna have to stop you on the Thanos Sword part 😂😂.
It was Sentinel who had the sword first.
I laughed so hard at your comments of the Wreckers. “Is my branding Okay!?”
Dinos blades can spin around and be thrown. He points them back so they don’t point out. I absolutely love Shockwave in this film. I think it would have been awesome if Jazz, Optimus, and Shockwave were the basis on how they should have done them. But I still do love all the designs we did get.
I’m laughing so hard over your Que comments too 😂😂😭😭😭
PS: To date this is still my favourite movie of all time and I will defend it till I die lol
As the thing that got me into Transformers, a big part of me finds it hard no to let this slide/take it on a personal level (and it includes the other films).
(Can you see my comments on the Siege Starscream?)
Are you saying the movies in general or this movie in particular?
@@PerspectiveEnd Both. (But we're mainly talking about this one, and I hold a personal/nostalgic attachment to it.)
Oh ho ho ho I Have Been looking forward to this...
And did it live up to the expectations?
Sentinel does look like Ian McKellen, and that's very creepy.
He really does. Mckellen should sue.
For the question of the video I think a review for Siege Flywheels would be enjoyable. On another note I despise Wheeljack's teeth that look like piano keys it just rubs me the wrong way.
1 That's an interesting request no one's made yet.
2 That is not Wheeljack.
3 They absolutely do!
at this point, you already did a review on most of the goods toys from The siege that you have, but to say one you don't you could try impactor if you manage to find one
I think there are still more great one's in there.
Why wasn’t it Alpha Trion? He was already a robot with a beard
I think he was obviously supposed to be Alpha Trion, but they gave him Sentinel's name because they realized they were about to do someones design right for once and they couldn't have that.
Will you be reviewing any SG figs? Id recommend the megs and blurr im still earning for starscream tho....its extra expensive where im from...it was a miracle to buy the first two....but goldbug is still sht tho but might buy it for completion sake...
Here's the thing, I bought them all on preorder when they were announced, and then the Hasbro Pulse system glitched and just slowly over a period of months canceled all my pre-orders, and there was just nothing I could do about it, it wouldn't let me fix them.
I actually quite like movie Shockwave’s design. Too bad he, like all the other cybertronian characters, doesn’t get any character development. I’ve seen this movie many times, and I never even new Dino and Crankcase were in the movie until their studio series figures came out.
Yeah I watched a video that cut together every shot of Dino, he had 1 line in the movie, and he was visible for 2 minutes and 40 seconds, and almost all of that was just him standing in the background.
@@PerspectiveEnd am I the only one who can understand the complexity of this ambitious cinematic masterpiece?
this movie isn't stupid, you're stupid
pd: ss core class shockwave is a micro masterpiece for🎶 me🎶
Perspective end you wanna know something? Dino survived aoe, he had more plot armor than ratchet and iron hide the main reason I believe why is because of his voice actors death. But why are his lower legs so skinny and small!? And his upper torso big and bulky
I had not heard that the actor had died, I looked into it and it's just a depressing story.
@@PerspectiveEnd it really is
Im convinced Michael bay was trying to get himself fired but nothing was working
I don't know why people at this up, but it meant that Bay Couldn't have his wish to be released.
What do you think of scalpel and reedman from transformers 2?
I forget that they exist because they are so inconsequential. I really couldn't care less about them. They look like movie characters, but like at least logical for what they are in regards to that.
You know I never realized just how much they reuse models for one off characters even if they shouldn’t be, like tell me soundwave isn’t a slightly different jazz
Yeah too many of the designs were too close, it's hard to distinguish them often.
He looks nothing like Jazz besides being a silver car with the front as his chest
I would like to see a review of flywheels
You are the second person to request that one. We will see. So far there has been no real consensus.
the roadbuster figure is nice except for the tiny excuse of a "gun"
Maybe it is, but I doubt the face looks any more like a thing.
in the movie Dino uses his weapons on strings because...
are they supposed to be cool?
Yeah, I saw that, like does he think he's kratos.
Dark of the moon is a beautiful movie it teaches me that Optimus prime is a merciless killer Not seen her sentinel get beheaded in stabbed is literally the funniest thing
Megatron is the one who's beheaded, Sentinel is just shot in the back.
I mean, they got what was coming to them, but the original ending was better
Well, look on the bright side- this movie acknowledged how dickish the Wreckers could be
This is true.
@@PerspectiveEnd"We don't let them off the base much 'cause they're assholes".
Frances McDormand, 2011
Love your videos
Thank you so much.
What do think of the driller that thing shockwave ride in?
I think it is a big worm.
Bayformers, making hasbro toy designer cry since 2007.
Especially hard in 07 when they just weren't prepared for it.
0:38 my bro you don't even have to explain that. If people can't handle laughable stuff being laughed at, it's their fault. I'm a sucker for these weird ass designs too however even i would have loved wheeljack if his face wasn't Einstein
I absolutely do have to say it because a lot of people don't get it, and if I can just clear up the mindset it can help them enjoy it.
And we do not call them Wheeljack. They had mercy on us not using that name, so let's take the mercy.
@@PerspectiveEnd you say they are jokes yet you literally sound super serious and actually criticize the design and even people who actually actually like the designs.
like the fallen where you basically question why people like the design and want toys of him. Man that is totally a "joke" :/
I just recieved a MP Sideswipe from ebay. Bought it for about $50 Aud which is about the price of a voyager class figure. Was pretty sure this was a KO as it was so cheap, but the seller was saying it was authentic. Anyways I would have been fine with a KO figure anyway so I bought the thing. Turns out that the seller wasn't lying about this being authentic. Every tell of an authentic is there. Black outline around the headlights, An Autobot logo on sideswipe on the side box (that is missing on KO releases), Tall head crest and the correct spelling for Countach and Lamborghini. I actually got an authentic MP for $50 aud!
The part that gets me about Soundwave is the car he turns into comes in 2 colors: the silver shown in the movie and a really nice, dark blue. I googled the car and those are the two options. AND MICHAEL BAY CHOSE SILVER OVER THE OBJECTIVELY CORRECT COLORS! Of course, I still like this movie quite a bit, but as usual, there are several glaring flaws with it
Oh, and as to which siege figure you should review next, I honestly don’t remember which ones you have and haven’t done so I’m not partial to any