Worker Dominator 40-round Dart test
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- I do a 4-type Worker Dominator 40-round Dart test. I'm very happy to say that newer darts work very well!
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That's a large mag for someone who's outofdarts
JForgeUK please no
Nice
I think it’s fair to say that it’s a given that most blasters will jam when using crummy darts. So for the most part, the dominator mags are working pretty well. Very happy to see that
I think I mentioned it before but the battery stock from foam technician (or if you can make one yourself) would be a good idea for the battery issue, and a lot of people already mentioned different variations of pusher arms so I won't beat a dead horse. I think once people in the community create higher quality versions of the worker cage for the dominator things will also improve.(being that there are specific dimensions for the first of the three cages, hopefully someone can make a better one.)
I have been waiting for a double stacked mag for ages.
As a possible fix for the feeding issues, would a slightly wider pusher "tooth" pick up the darts that are that little bit too far to one side?
i have an idea of a fix for the non centering issue
I was thinking a wider pusher arm head, that way it catches the top dart better
Me Too
@@beanieteamie7435 I guess if you're never gonna use normal mags again then I dont think that'd be an issue
Since this can take up to three flywheel cages, when can we expect a video on required voltages, batteries, and motor setups? I recently ordered my dominator with six of their 130-ish sized motors for a proof of concept and I want to make sure it gets the proper battery / mosfet setup.
I wouldn't use 6 of any one kind of motor. With multi staged blasters the RPMs need to increase at each stage.
i'm thinking stage 1 meishels/fang revamps (2s), stage 2 honey badgers (2s), stage 3 fang revamps (3s overvolted)
I would run the whole thing off a hefty 3s and just have the third stage overvolted. Something like rhinos, m2’s, and honey badgers. Rhinos on 3s are only like 33k rpm, m2’s are almost 50k on 3s, and honey badgers are pushing 65k on 3s. No idea about the longevity of the m2’s and honey badgers on 3s, i would keep the crush low on those stages. If you want even more power do something like valkyries in a 43 for the first stage instead of rhinos in a stock cage.
I would say that the following would work well: meishel 2.0s on 2s, krakens/new-rhinos on 3s (they’re pretty much the same motor, Fang revampeds/titan cronus overvolted on 3s. Stages 2 and 3 could possibly be run on the same lipo, but it would need an extremely high discharge rate.
@@Daniel_B79 NO NO NO NO NO. You do this you will rip darts to shreds due to the imbalance in speed. You want to pick the highest RPM and run those same motors in all stages. A 3 Stage 3S Wolverine setup or a 4S Neo Hellcat setup would probably net the highest overall FPS with high crush cages.
Awesome! I've been waiting for this mag test. Thanks I will be purchasing.
This blaster would be OP anywhere lol, ROF is insane with stock parts(I mean the parts that your supposed to use)
I wonder if a double stack mag going to a single stack would work. We could finally get 30 rounds in a 15 round mag size. Oh that'd be a dream
I guess one way to work around the feed issues in the last test would be having a wider (if possible) pusher head? Just slightly wider so it's able to pick up the back of the dart on either side of the expanded mag.
Hey Luke! It’s me! Tom! (Not that you’d know or care) just wanted to say that I love your videos and you’re a huge help.
P.S. I’m using (mostly) all your parts for my Evader project.
A blunt triangular tipped pusher rod might over come the mix dart load conundrum. Pretty sweet though. Double stacked mags require a wider bolt carrier, AK owner😈, but that might be a potential solution.
Great job , other youtuber's had Jamming issues and i love that 40 round mag. I'm hoping worker makes a premade version that works out of the box for us nerfers that have no time, resources, knowledge and experience to put one together
I have a good feeling that there's gonna be complete blasters on workerkit.com eventually after it's been out for a little while
Very interesting, I am watching all of the videos for the Dominator. Things are looking promising for this new blaster. I hope it is a success and challenges Hasbro to step up their game. After a brief review of the Overwatch Rival blasters I think they dropped the ball on them.
I generally run new to newish elite darts in this. When I use this I am suppressing or shutting up trash talkers. When I need accuracy I do my kriss vector stryfe or my dzp. But this is an amazing blaster. And was worth the initial investment.
I would like to see someone design a mag like that, only the top is Nerf compatible. ...So it has a double stack that turns into a single stack at the top, enough to fit in a standard size mag well.
that'd be a really efficient way to replace drums
I think that this blaster will take brushless motors really well tons of room in the blaster
The issue I had with my sword fish pusher was just the return spring not being quite strong enough. I shortened mine so that it retracted properly
I assembled a swordfish full-auto, and I have the same "runaway firing" problem you mentioned, specifically at high firing speeds.
As the dart pusher is being pulled back by the spring, it encounters some kind of resistance at just before it makes contact with the dart pusher switch. If you open it up and use your fingers to 'follow' the pusher as it moves back (with the auto-gear turned away to not make contact), you can actually feel this resistance. At high firing rates, this mysterious resistance causes the pusher to slow down its motion, such that the auto-gear makes contact with the pusher teeth before it moves fully back to activate the switch. Hence the cycle continues endlessly, with the pusher never making it back to activate its switch before the auto-gear contacts and pushes it forward again.
I have no idea whats causing the resistance. I thought it was the bottom of the auto-gear casing rubbing against the top of the pusher, but i've tried lube and sanding whatever I could think of, and the resistance is still there. So my swordfish is only capable of low to mid firing rates, but high firing rates always cause the 'runaway firing'. Rather disappointed to be honest.
I think the lower torque motor for the pusher might be the reason since they don't come to a halt as fast as higher torque motors
i've done an arduino controlled select fire Swordfish ...and the ROF shown here is beyond the components offered .. this isn't a belt or RS style pusher...
throw in some old dart foam to stop the pusher bouncing?
I've seen a double stacked mag before but it was a one off thing, this is really cool though
I think the problem may be an easy fix if the pusher is failing to feed darts that are slightly out of position. The pusher head design needs to be remodeled wider, which is a relatively quick, single afternoon model in software. There shouldn't be any double feed issues with a larger pusher head unless the darts being used are really stepped on. Can't say for sure without having one on the work bench to examine directly.
Worst case scenario: redesign the flywheel cage feed ramp with left and right skewed channels to accept darts from either position. This is how double stack box fed rifles typically feed.
It's unfortunate, but as is, looks like the 40 round double stack magazines simply won't fly for game play with community or scavenged darts. BYOD and plenty of extras. But, odds are the only people using these at games will be competitive players who use their own single type darts and color and immediately cycle out damaged darts in between rounds after pick up.
I'd have to take a close look at the pusher and how it interfaces with the feed lips, that I noticed are wider apart than standard single stack mags. I'm also making the assumption that the top feeding dart has no more than 50% overlap with the next dart underneath with the double stack supported by two walls on either side. But, I am comparing foam tubes to brass cases, which clearly have different tolerances and characteristics.
So watching these vids I keep coming back to the proton pack, and I think As a massive ballhose blaster, its great, but another thought, Think about, the ammo guy, large 'proton pack' but instead of a blaster at the end of the hose, it's just a nozzle with trigger/lever/whatever, that turns on the feeding mechanism, for like a rival ammo guy build. able to top off other players dump pouches of bawlz, or directly refuel, prometheus/nemesis users. Of course, making the whole proton pack, the nozzle refueler end, should be removable to have it attach into a zeuse or ahatever else to regain its normal proton pack useage... anyway dont mind me, 5am ramblings. :D
Boiii this is important for the hobby ... this can only go 3 ways ...
1. It changes Nerf history forever
2. Its turns in to the next nerf deploy
3. Or most likely it is a flop which motivates other people to make more
I wish they made more of those mags
Trigger Happy 33 wot
Did you use the new worker cage designed for this or did you use something else? Also I cant wait for you to carry these. I want to get one soon
Can we have an update on the Jupiter?
Use Foam Technician stock for the battery compartment.
would a slightly longer pusher and or slightly wider area on the pusher help push trough bad darts?
Most exited bout the 40 rounders much mod potential there.
Interesting result with the mixed darts. I wonder if it was because of the different types or the damaged darts, in the future can you test that?
So can you set it to semi auto?
Because 40 round semi auto is definitely what I would prefer.
It comes with a semi auto trigger, you can install an auto or select fire kit.
Looking nice!
I use nimh batteries, so tape is my solution on all my flywheelers
So (presumably) it won't have misfires when using the adapters with standard 18 round mags?
Hi outofdarts, can you do a video regarding the accuracy.
Many have asked the question, canted single set up vs normal single set up which is more accurate--- reason---
Because its the first contact made by the dart yet still has a barrel to encounter.
Love it
My bet is on that missing board being a last minute revision to fix the infinite-cycle loop, and it didn't make it into your package.
I think my double-to-single stack magazine research is still relevant, yes?
Considering the new worker 40s don't look practical for older blasters like the stryfe, that mag design would be awesome.
Is 8 round brass barrel hammer shot possible? Or u only can have 7 brass barrel
Amazing
What was your basic list of parts for this build looking to purchase and build one similar.
So you’re only out of darts between videos?
i dun understand why worker makes their battery tray very small...
What motor would I want to use for the pusher?
Hi Luke,
Just wondering what cage you used in this test?
what cage, motors and flywheels did u use?
Hay
What if you made an "Elite" version of the proton pack, it would need more engineering and parts but still, imagine like 200 darts coming at you over like 20 seconds
How much for a fully assembled, fully wired, full auto? It wasn't on your site yet.
Hi
How much did building this happen to cost?
A 40 dart casket magazine???
Wait a double stack magazine?
Uuuhhh... HOW MUCH MONEY?!?!?! The Hyperfire has nothing on this!!!
I want it...
Highlighted comment... kool
Double stacked drum mag when?
If you mean to double current drum capacity- so, 50-70 rounds- like this does for standard darts, then probably never... Not for darts, at least; maybe for Rival rounds.
In order to double-stack a drum with that kind of capacity, the spring strength needed to feed the darts would crush the back end of said darts. It would probably require a winder-and-latch system like some Real Steel drum magazines do... If you don't, having a spring strong enough to properly feed all those darts will make the drum spew the darts all over as soon as you finish loading it, without some kind of retention mevhanism- which puts MORE pressure on the darts.
Rival balls are much sturdier, though. It should be fully possible to build a spiralling drum magazine that holds upwards of 50 Rival rounds, without being much bigger than a 35 round dart drum. Compared to darts, Rival rounds crush less; the spring could be stronger without causing damage. Rival rounds feed easier, too, so they wouldn't necessarily NEED a much stronger spring... The shape is a huge plus, and there's no drag from rubber tips to cause friction.
make a g3 battle rifle
Keeping reading "Doominator"
BadDarts is OutOfDart’s evil brother
Fireing at 3:27
that gun looks like an aa12 full auto shotgun
By the way worker took this gun away from this guy ua-cam.com/video/WNRejo8AmoI/v-deo.html
And just added two more flywheel to it
I will slip an Mega dart into that mag when you aren't looking
You're not out of darts, you clearly have 40 😆
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amazing