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No-Till and Glyphosate
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2017
- A look at our notill farming system and its benefits to the wider environment after the very mislead decision not to re-register Glyphosate in the EU Parliament yesterday.
See you guys in a couple years when this gets recommended to everyone
It happened
IT has begun
bru how
And Here We Are
Here we go 🤣
Tell em about what happens when you eat food grown with glyphosate
Well done Jake, this needs to go further than UA-cam.
wow, i just wanted to see how glyphosate looks like when it's poured and clicked on a random video but still watched it whole. amazing video.
RIP to all the deleted comments criticizing glyphos
Very interesting watch, but I have to disagree with the you. We have been farming organically since 1999 and have not worked any of are soils deeper than 80mm in 5 years now. Over the last 18 years we have seen huge improvements in our soil health and insect life which has followed through to our cereals. We can easily establish malting barley straight after 28 months of red clover without the use of Glyphosate. Our aim is to be in the fields as fewer times as possible and let nature do the work to produce us highly profitable sustainable crops.
Well done, we don't need poisons on the land to run off into the rivers and kill the fish and wildlife let alone to grow our FOOD to poison us! They are MAD!!
awatchwoman glyphosate is not a poison and it does not run off into rivers. It rapidly breaks down in the soil.
Then again, what does that demonstration have anything to do with glyphosate?
thettguy if it rapidly breaks down in the soil surely we wouldn’t be finding traces of it in bread on supermarket shelves.
+Peter Ewan in bread? How about in basically everything that is not organic
Have a look in to Korean natural farming, Jadam wetting agent and wettable sulfur. Super low cost, highly effective agriculture working with the earth not against it
Very interesting, and comprehensive practical demonstration.
He is a simple farmer and he says its VERY VERY SAFE. its hilarius
How is it people that no till farming is not 100% adopted as that standard for every single farm on the planet?
thanks Jake. How do organic farmers like Riverford manage both no-till & no chemical inputs? tks
10 years this will be in everyone’s recommendations
I am glad to see that not everyone in the UK is as blinded to the benefits of a no-till agricultural system that uses glyphosate, instead of mechanical tillage, to prepare fields for planting. The net benefits are exactly as you describe and the risks are few, if any. Despite decades of study, not one causal link has been established between glyphosate and cancer, yet here we are, hamstrung by unsubstantiated fears. The way forward is going to be challenging, indeed.
True!
studies paid for by manufacturers lmao
Sorry, I don't understand, mixed cover crops and living soils are some of the key principles of permaculture, which doesn't rely on glyphosate at all. On the other hand, farmers who work heavily the soil, leaving it bare, killing all life within it, are usually the ones relying on chemicals such as fertilisers, bare ground herbicides, etc.
Really I'm confused, what does this demonstration have anything to do with glyphosate at all?
Because he will use it to make the Field ready to plant wheat next
And he will not need to plough the soil to make it ready
Oh, exactly what happens in permaculture you mean?
glyphosate is easily avoidable in tilled cultivation since regular herbicides can be used on weed sprouts growing after tilling but in no till you need it to deal with cover crops, precedent's re growth and the few weeds that live through the cover, are well developed and might produce seeds at least in the first few years. no till easily use one pass of dose reduced glyph a year at most while tilled cultivation use one two or three paths of other herbicides mostly far more toxic that the glyphosate al while degrading the soil with cultivation. here is the time for ust to either chose to ban glyphosate and beef up the hurdle to organic no till or keep the glyphosate to ease the conversion to no till and the evolve it toward organic farming once the weeds a controlled after a few years all this political war against the glyphosate is but a witch hunt... and scoop hungry mass media keep pouring oils called stereotypes and false info into that fire
No, in permaculture much more diesel is burned to prepare the soil. You need to watch the video again.
A great video Jake! A really impressive argument for the continued usage of glyphosate and using no till for crop production.
1:25 EPA, BfR, EFSA are *_NOT_* well respected, at least on Glyphosate. When the European Food Safety authority labelled Glyphosate as safe, an open letter of disagreement was published by 96 renowned scientists calling for recall. Monsanto papers show that EPA has been hijacked in the US.
glyphosate is cancerigen!! so are all the other herbicides that have to be combined in conventional farming to get the same result while degrading the soil with plowing and heavy tillage
_"the only ones claiming glyphosate to be carcinogenic are those who are suing monsanto for roundup being carcinogenic"_
Nope. Scientists also claim glyphosate to be carcinogenic and teratogenic, and so convincingly so that the only ones denying the evidence are the biotech trolls. Get ready for the trial, trolls.
_"so you have scientist[sic] who aren't in the pocket of the multi billion dollar organics industry"_ Monsanto and the biotech are the best recruiters for the Organic food producers. And in case you haven't noticed, they haven't concentrated yet. Silly troll.
_"do you have any one[sic] claiming roundup to be inherently evil who's not in the pockets of the multi billion dollar organics industry"_
Actually yes, most independent scientists who are uniting against this scourge are motivated by civic duty, taste for truth and protection of the planet and future generation. But you wouldn't understand that. Would you?
But let me revert this to you... silly troll. Do you happen to know anyone supporting Monsanto and/or the glyphosate who's not either a foul, a brainwashed farmer or a shill (like yourself)?
Hi Jake, do you know or have you experimented with non-herbicidal weed management? Can things cover crops, animal grazing etc used to be managed weeds?
Not with success, no. That's the point of the video. You see the two options for management. If you attempted no herbicide and no till, your crop would essentially fail. Grazing control of a plot would not provide a reasonably plantable venture. Fear of herbicides is sold to you. Some herbicides available do pose hazards, yes. But he's talking about glyphosate, a very safe and economical herbicide that is all but necessary to avoid tillage (and the concurrent greenhouse gas contribution) and maximize yield.
@@m.g.7475 Roller crimpers do not seem very effective, is that true?
@@DukeGMOLOL we ah e tried a crimper roller once and will try it again but I need to learn more about it. Colder climates with more frost or timing of crimping at the start of flowering (too late in the UK) are better timings but not always possible.
@@No1FarmerJake The roller crimper does not kill the roots and when weeds begin to choke the crop soil tillage will be necessary which defeats the purpose.
Brilliant video ,
This is misleading It's not a true comparison, different crops have been grown on each field, potatoes require large volumes of soil to be moved to make a seed bed for the tubers, come on proper comparisons please
Indeed, because putting completely unnatural chemicals in the soil of which the overall effect on the population's health is unknown is a good thing to ascertain a "healthy soil". Tell me, do you think that the chemicals you spray, in particular glyphosate, are present naturally in the soil?
Just because something is natural does not mean that it is healthy. Nice example: Aflatoxin, the most carcinogenic compound on the planet, yet it is "natural"...
What I meant by 'unnatural' is that it is not naturally present in the soil (under normal circumstances). Nor did I imply that 'natural' = 'healthy'.
Definitely it is insane. They have been told "this item is great! It doesn't cause cancer and it's basically necessary!" And they just take their word for it. Not like it's a billion dollar business or anything.....
gyuuk did not watch the video. Agriculture is a trillion dollar business. So the fuck what? Do you think farmers should work for free? Idiot.
Wout misses the first point - all farming is invasive. The only natural state for land is virgin forest or grasslands or bogs.
This was educational for me.
Jake is it possible to plant potatoes directly into that heavy covercrop without tilling the ground. And onions as well.
there are people trying potatoes under straw mats, onions are more tricky as need precision planting needed but that's an engineering solution.
Jake Freestone planting and harvesting would seem a big challenge.
planting is easy with a cross slot-seen it planting into 5'high mustard with no issues. Covercrops all gone by harvest, lay them down on the ground and the worms eat them
This is important
Yeah. It's so safe that so many people have suffered and died from it. Smh. All you're worried about is your profits.
I drank round up one time when I was young and I'm ok. That was 43 years ago.
just because your gargoyle ass grew up drinking under the sink chemicals doesn't mean they're healthy or safe by any means. You grew up in the times they told people cigs were healthy.
Have things gotten better since leaving the EU?
Well put Jake
Thank You for that!
y only 30 or 40 harvests left?
Topsoil erosion, the soil has lost much nutrition, likewise the things grown in it
Very well put, excellent
wont that change after we leave the EU, I mean wont we be in charge of our farms again.
maybe-although might have restrictions to EU market, although they are currently taking it form around the world
Politically, it would be unthinkable to ban glyphosate in Europe and allow imports of heavily tainted food from Brasil or Argentina. That's why the decision is so hard to take. In all honesty, I am absolutely convinced that glyphosate is not safe - at all. Regardless, I can understand this is a very useful intrant for no-till agro techniques.
Just imagine however, the export power the European (extended) agro industry would have if they could still combine the benefits of no-till techniques with pesticide free food. Sure they could charge premium. You guys have already done half of the hard work. from personal experience, I can tell you there is a lot of research in France to avoid tilling yet destroy soil covers mechanically (lot's of "funny looking" machines, believe me). Eventually something will come out. But I agree it will require more skills, that it will need to be customised on a case by case basis, and will not happen just tomorrow - although many people are on that track already.
The glypho free field why does not use cover crops? They should. And the cover croppers shouldn't use glypho. That is a poison.
Gotta kill the cover crop before planting the crop.
How are you going to kill the cover crop without glyphosate unless you till it?
Duke Steele, many people are successfully using a crimper roller mounted to their seed drill/the front of the drilling tractor which is extremely effective in killing the cover without any use of herbicides
@@jackorr6082 Not extremely effective Jack, not exactly gentle to the soil.
Love no-till, hate glyphosate
Modern ag leads the way in no till. Organic farmers can't kill the cover crop without tilling.
Completely agree with you on this. Am using these principles to grow vegetables on my allotment, seems to me that we have a big job on our hands to re-educate the public on this. Lots of new plot holders seem to have an interest in 'no-dig' gardening, but when I mention the G word they stop listening because chemicals =bad, natural=good. And that's about as far as a lot of people seem to want to look at it, but these things take time though.
If you decide to garden using poison, it's just a waste of effort and time, you are much better of going to the shop, buying vegetables and fruits from farmers who at least tried to limit doses and are checked regularly by government organisations....
@@bikerrecumbent1064 Glyphosate is ONLY 'poison' to weeds with the cellular shikimate pathway. No human or animal or insect has that. All foods are in fact monitored by the EPA and FDA for safe levels of pesticides. It is easy to avoid exceeding the safe daily maximum exposure limit of 1.3 parts per million, which itself has a 100X safety margin for error on the safe side. For example, you can eat foods every day of your life that contain 80 times the safe legal limits of glyphosate with no effect to your health. In reality the legal limits are rarely ever exceeded and when they are, it is only by a small percentage which is detected and recalled.
Hello Popeye Gordon. I respect your opinion. However, i do not think Glyphosate is the real culprit in the game here, as i explained in an earlier answer. I'll quote it again here: "Why such a focus on glyphosate? RoundUp consists of many more ingrediënts. Glyphosate as such does not stick to leaves and roots of plants, Monsanto adds surfactants to the product to achieve this. Glyphosate as such might or might not be safe, RoundUp as a whole certainly isn't. Just look up the MSDS sheets for all the ingrediënts of RoundUp. Do your research people and think again."
And as you said before, it's not just about Monsanto (swallowed up by Bayer now) or Roundup, it's about the complete formulation as such. As somebody else pointed out, some of these surfactants contain dioxides. Which is -as we all know- not a healthy chemical. I still remember vividly how a Monsanto spokesman was explaining to a journalist that Roundup is "completely harmless". At that stage, the journalist digged under his seat and gave the Monsanto guy a bottle of Roundup. He then said: "can you drink this, please?". To which the Monsanto guy replied: "Are you mad?" ;-)
@@bikerrecumbent1064 A major blunder in your first sentence reveals just how poorly educated you are. Opinions never have any place in the topic of science. You completely ignored the fact that there are 63 different formulations of glyphosate herbicide in the US EACH WITH A DIFFERENT INGREDIENTS LIST. 700 formulations globally. To which of the 700 formulations to you refer? Even the defunct Monsanto still has 3 different formulations sold by Bayer in the US market. Which one?? Which one??????? They are all different.
@@bikerrecumbent1064 You had the nerve to make up a variation on the UA-cam anti-science video that showed the ambush of a nice man who traveled many hours to give an invited talk on Golden Rice, only to learn it was nothing but an activist ambush. If you want to engage in that childish playground taunt, here you can see a man drink a glass of Roundup live on camera with no effect: ua-cam.com/video/M8sgEhpHM4k/v-deo.html This explains how foolish and ignorant it is to make that dare: www.thefarmersdaughterusa.com/2015/03/throwback-to-childhood-if-glyphosate-is-so-safe-then-why-dont-you-drink-it.html
I can just agree with you Jake, our farm tought too about going to no till, now not being abel to use glyphaste after few years, we are going to have a strong toughts about it..
You failed to post a good reason for your disagreement. How much diesel per acre will you use?
Also how is your grasp on the English language?
Well it may be out of the EU Parliaments hands after a couple of years
We will have to wait and see what (if) the terms of any trade deal might look like!
From my understanding, we would still be bound by EU regs regardless of any trade deal, due to us wanting to export produce, or am I wrong?
who knows all depends on trade although if they stop us from using it and still import from the rest of the world?
Are they going to stop importing US soya??
Don’t think we can manage without it can we?unless we can produce more ourselves but surely we can’t produce enough. I don’t understand the trade arrangement with the rest of the world. We bend over backwards to meet rules and regulations, do other countries???
glypho is safe. dont listen to ignorantes Jake!
I’d put this video on Facebook but I just got outa Facebook jail,,somebody else’s turn
Why such a focus on glyphosate? RoundUp consists of many more ingrediënts. Glyphosate as such does not stick to leaves and roots of plants, Monsanto adds surfactants to the product to achieve this. Glyphosate as such might or might not be safe, RoundUp as a whole certainly isn't. Just look up the MSDS sheets for all the ingrediënts of RoundUp. Do your research people and think again.
Geert VdW Thanks.. some of the surfactants might be carcinogenic. www.naturescountrystore.com/roundup/page2.html
@@samt1705 In fact, the Roundup patent expired in 1999 and there are now 63 brands of glyphosate herbicide sold in the US, each with its own formulation.
Roots of plants are not exposed to herbicide spraying. Monsanto no longer exists. There are 700 brands of glyphosate herbicides sold globally, China is the largest supplier.
such as shame people are so focussed on glyphosate when in reality there are much more dangerous chemicals around. Especially when it is almost necessary in modern day agriculture.
Almost necessary?! There is such thing as natural farming (not even organic pesticides and herbicides) and it actually has huge yields when you do not partake in monoculture and have a good ecosystem set up
what does natural farming involve? genuinely curious. is it sustainable/viable?
well permaculture is one way. to create the environment to attrack enough beneficial insects and birds that eat the insects that eat the crops. a little loss is expected, but you get much healthier, more complex, complete food.
masanobu fukuoka was successful without having a full permaculture setup. his book "the one straw revolution" showed how he averaged higher yields of crop on his mandarins and rice fields without using ANY pesticides or herbicides. he used no-till techniques. beneficial cover crops didnt allow for weeds to emerge + fixed nitrogen. his rice was only flooded for the beginning of the season and the fields were dry afterwards.
monoculture and "modern" agriculture have created a broken system that ruins the beneficial bacteria in soil and deposits metals and other chemicals. with a monolith of a crop you cant attract a variety of insects and birds so you must then rely heavily on pesticides - and no cover cropping means heavy spraying of herbicide.
permaculture is definitely sustainable. it would mean more farms supplying food locally- and many different food crops at a time. it would take a bit more labor, but i see that as a good thing considering the amount of jobs that are going to be lost to technology in the upcoming 10-20 years.
Nope. gyuuk can not post factual links of "huge yields". If it was possible, ALL farmers would do that to save their cost of fuel and pesticides. He is an activist liar who insults the intelligence of our hard working farmers.
Popeye Gordon = known Monsanto troll
I've heard that this chemical is toxic Af? 🤣
Im an american that has nothing to do with this but….glyscophare
There is no such thing as glyscophare.
This is a very misleading video.
Not safe at all
Bullshit
Yay cancer😂