Gabbie Hanna FINALLY Responded
Вставка
- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Watch my poetry critique videos here:
Gabbie Hanna part 1: • Gabbie Hanna's Poetry ...
Gabbie Hanna part 2: • Gabbie Hanna disappoin...
Gabbie Hanna part 3: • Gabbie Hanna's LAZY Po...
Trisha Paytas: • Trisha Paytas' Poetry ...
Kyra's Poetry Video: • My Dog Writes Parody P...
Kyra's Poetry Book:
www.amazon.co....
---------------------------
Support my channel by buying on of these recommended products:
UK: www.amazon.co....
USA: www.amazon.com...
Canada: www.amazon.ca/...
MERCH: teespring.com/...
Support my channel: www.paypal.me/...
Instagram: / rachel0ates
Twitter: / rachel0ates
Patreon: / racheloates
My Wishlist: www.amazon.co....
Kyra's Wishlist: www.amazon.co....
---------------------------
PO Box
Rachel Oates
Unit 16588
PO Box 6945
London
W1A 6US
---------------------------
A huge thank you to these guys for supporting me on Patreon this month ♥♥♥
Thank You To All My
Patreon Supporters This Month!
Arnaldo van putten
Breeze is horny
Caroline S.
CT Berchem
Data Jack
Endorenna
greg peter
Joni Miller
Kevin Conrad
Kurt Robicheaux
Lizzy Peasy
Princess Arylin
Sir Michael Moore, Bt.
and...
Anca
Cody Holcomb
Inesa Vytyte
Jeroen Poels
Liv’s Pantyhose Addiction
Loren Hart
Malachi Oswald
Moshe van der Sterre
Nathalie ML Romer
Peter Kyrouac
Trae Sprowles
Tyler
and...
Abby
Alan Stevens
Alex Hoing
Alyssa P
Andrew H
Andrew Jennings
Andrew Jones
Anna Lynch
Annie Co
Ashley Lynn Waldron
Beth Martin
BMillzebub
Bric Mahlum
Brillig S. Toves
Brittany Geren
Charles R.l. Power
Chris Cox
Cro-Magnon Gramps
Daniel Brooks
David Groves
Dean A. Batha
Dylan Blair
Ellavee (nobody)
Elyse Sauriol
Emma Burzynski
Flatterfuchs
Gary Gehiere
George Stathoulopoulos
Gully Foyle
hamanime
Hannah Ledsom
Hannes Illy
James Classen
James Curtis
James Russell
Jimmy B.
Joanna Han
John R
Joseph Gast
Joshua Crutchfield
Karla Schnikow
Katie Faust
Katie Klebba
Katy Vaughan
Klaus-Peter Hammerschmidt
Lord of Therring
Lubiniki
Lydia
Maggie Wisk
Marc GODDARD
Marcus Meitzler
Mark Kessler
Mark Rice
Mary Frances Gabrielle Fernandez
Matt
Max Aldrich
Mextli
Michael Butchin
Michael Wheatland
Nichola Hargreaves
Nori
paul
Peter de Vries
Rachel B Royer
Rampaging Marshmallow
Rebecca Lashua
Robert Aguero Padilla
Sarah Kelly
sn319161
Solvor Megard
Stacey Peterson
Stan Zaytsev
Stefan van den Berg
Steven Gernandt
Stuart Bower
Susan Schindler-Lorito
Sysosmaster
Tennomusha
The Bearded Heathen
Thomas Struss
Tim C
You guys are incredible!! ♥
---------------------------
Patreon: / racheloates
Don't feel like you have to donate, but please know I'm super-grateful to anyone who does ♥
It really gives me the opportunity to re-invest back into my channel and continue to improve me content for you guys. Plus, I can finally be financially stable again and stop disappointing my parents ;)
![Gabbie Hanna disappoints me again [part 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NUCSi8uJwAI/mqdefault.jpg)
Join me at 7pm BST over on Instagram for a live stream tonight :)
instagram.com/rachel0ates/
(You can go submit questions on my story now!)
Come for the debate of good poetry, stay for the Kyra slide-show.
Thank you for loving my comment :)
#HappyBirthday
@@lady-octopus731 ,
Rachel, I really hate to critique people but I’m going to try and be kind.
Why didn’t you put more pictures of Kyra along side this?
I felt very dissatisfied by the lack of at least 147 pictures.
😝
No, I love your videos 😊
Have you read any of Laura Dockrill?
She has this fun sense of poetry/stories.
If you have a little search on here you can find her reading them and it definitely makes her work so much more enjoyable because you understand her style and it just brings it all to life.
I think the only thing she’s brought out recently is a book about her postnatal depression but ‘mistakes in the background’ is really fun
Admitting that the book was rushed, while also saying the audience isn't smart enough to 'get' the poems and it's so misunderstood is beyond hypocritical.
When did she say that?
Nick I don’t really remember when/where she said it but she did once explain that she had to hurry because of the deadline and therefore some poems were put in there in a rush
@@lounatic2753 you said where and then in end say yea she said some poem were put in rush lol
@@Nick-ft4dk In the video that Alizee made, she showed a clip of Gabbie saying they were rushed. Aside from that, the pretty lazy and bizarre pieces are evident of a lack of thoughtfulness and skill.
Nick 6:13
as an english lit major, i don't really care for the author telling me how i should interpret a piece. the work should speak for itself, and authorial intent stops as soon as the words are on the page.
lol, tell that to every "what was the author's purpose" questions in elementary and middle school haha.
*Jk*
@@sicklycynical i mean authors are allowed to have a purpose while writing it, but if they didn't succeed to showing it that's on them lmaooo
@@zuul1005 I completely agree and if I'm not mistaken that's the main argument of "death of the author", right?
I'm sure she doesn't know Roland Barthes...
@@zuul1005 lol it literally is!
Rachel is putting in 10x more work into critiquing the "poems" than the actual author put into writing them lmao
The sad truth about this whole situation
Preach
"the author" yes, we don't say her name B)
That girl went to her notepad wrote some jargon and was like “Daaamn thats deep”
More than 10x, you're overestimating the effort it took to write this stuff.
"The Closet" by an angry gay
I peek out of the closet
To see my mother cry.
To see my father's stone cold glare;
He won't look me in the eye.
I stay inside the closet.
The darkness twists my neck.
I choke on all the things unsaid
And vomit a false life.
I step outside the closet.
Maybe I'll be happy.
But I'd prefer to be myself
Than get respect from my "family."
She writes about my closet
Having never been inside.
Yes, remind me I'm a monster
And of all the tears we've cried.
Gabbie, tell us we're all monsters.
Tell the gay kids who have died.
Roo Bard this is really good!!
@@isac6459 Thank you 💙
i'm begging you, tell me you share other writing somewhere on the web. this was wonderful, i love it sm
That was really good, well written and with a good flow. The message at the end really got to me. You've done a great job!
@@lilghosty3564 I haven't put any of my other poems out on the internet, but I've been thinking about it. If I do, I'll get back to you on that. I just want to make a bigger body of work first 😅
The thing about Gabbies poetry is that if this book was written by someone who didn't already have a fanbase it wouldn't have even been published
it would .... on amazon XD
I feel like that is what Gabbie does. She tries a new hobby and then monetizes it and makes it her new passion until the next hobby.
Julia lol well a lot of people change hobbies and interest. I’m very fickle so I do the same thing. There’s nothing wrong with monetizing it because that’s how she makes her money, but she should've at least studied more about poetry and etc before writing a book 😂.
Jodi Rose Allan THIS exactly this.
A G but this isn’t her just having fun or something, this is an obvious cash grab. There was literally no thought out into this, and like the original commenter said, if she wasn’t already famous no publisher would even look her way. She put out something bad, and people have a right to tell her that it’s not good, whether she’s “having fun” or not.
Gaslighting: “I encourage you to DIG into my poems” then 30secs later “you took it seriously?? It’s meant to be light and digestible!”
Exactly! She patronizes her audience for not getting the deeper meaning to the poems and then follows up by saying "Its not that serious"
Sy Monroe self contradiction to the max
@*_vanessa_* Completely agree, well said lol
Maybe she meant DIGestible, if ya know what I mean. Schrodinger's digging.
sy Monroe: *takes all nuance out of a defensive action*
Comments: Wow how brilliant
Okay, double commentating, but how can you say “people hide behind the label of constructive criticism” when... you haven’t... seen the video. I think the original video is incredibly constructive, it doesn’t make fun of where her poems went wrong but rather attempts to see where they can be improved and made better.
I mean she said in the video that she doesn't mind constructive criticism but that she's not going to click on a video where the title is already abrasive. And I know we're all having a good laugh making fun of her in the comments lol but I do understand her point there. Like she's not going to click on a video title "Why Gabbie Hanna SUCKS" Obviously that's a clickbait-y title that will make OTHER people click on it but if I was an influencer that was putting content out there that's definitely not a video I would want to click on because right off the bat from the title it doesn't sound constructive. It would be like in real life if you asked for someone to look at your art and the first thing they said was "Wow this is horrible" you're probably not going to want to listen to anything they said after that because they immediately put you down before offering anything else. Just my opinion though but I definitely get where she's coming from on that point.
Countrygirlforever
Actually Rachel’s first video was “Gabbie Hanna’s poetry is BAD” which is straight to the point, and clearly addressing the idea of the video. The title will be abrasive because her poetry is abrasive to my eyes. It’s crazy if she expected a video CRITICIZING her poetry with a happy title.
“Gabbie’s poetry is not good”? “Gabbie’s poetry doesn’t spark life in me”? The only non judgemental title I can see is “Let’s talk about Gabbie Hanna’s poetry” and even then it shows hints of criticism. She’s far too sensitive and her idea of “abrasive” is anything that is a little mean.
@@amandahuang9767 sometimes you don't want to get mad over things but you do and boy isn't that consuming. I get how she feels but honestly she should get help instead of embarrassing herself further. Yikes.
@@comedygirlfan okay, but sometimes companies see those kind of "vague"(?) criticisms and the still try to improve. It's probably unfair to compare because she is just one person, but she needs to realize that she could potentially lose fans and money if she doesn't see that A LOT of people are saying the same thing over and over, that means she needs to improve. Another thing, not everyone may be able to articulate their criticisms properly, either because they just aren't good enough at it or because they don't know much about poetry in the first place to tell her where to improve and what to ditch. People can simply just dislike something and just say "I didn't like this. There is something missing/off."
@@comedygirlfan What Gabby doesn't get is that critiquing is a job. Nobody has the time, patience, or reason to offer her a one-on-one editing/proof-reading session for free, unless she specifically asks them personally. Even then it depends on whether or not the person in question has the time or inclination to cough up free skillshare classes. She's here on youtube to make money and build a fanbase, and so is everyone else. That or watch and comment on videos. What she needs is a good editor. Or maybe some sessions with a seasoned writer. After all, she clearly says this book is not for those who bought the book and didn't like it. That the book is for her and her supporters (so much could have been averted had she mentioned that in the blurb or the cover or even the introduction). Others are making videos that are for them and their supporters, among whom Gabby isnt one.
I hate to be that person, but I hate how she treats homophobia like something that personally impacts her, a straight person. As a gay person, I can say that straight people will never fully understand how homophobia affects gay people. I might even say her poem was like mansplaining but for straight people. Straightsplaining.
Elisa Castro you're saying blame gay people for bad representation? for straight people glamorizing and capitalizing off a struggle (being in the closet) that they know nothing about? you're slipping into the patronizing tone of gabbie's poem while speaking about an issue that does not affect you, i.e bad representation. nobody said "this is heterosplaining and that's bad" and left it at that, there have been several arguments brought up-when there needn't be! if you're straight, don't go talking about how difficult it is to be in the closet. it's as simple as that
@Elisa Castro
Bruh, it's not The Gays inserting forced diversity/rep into media; it's a bunch of straight people either trying to pander or trying to add "depth" to their media.
This is why you have characters and rep who exist literally to JUST be the token gay/lesbian. That's it. That's all they're reduced to -- their sexuality.
It's also why you've got characters/rep full of stereotypes instead of painting them as actual people. An equivalent would be a brown person in media constantly wearing a sombrero while eating tacos every time they're onscreen.
YES, many Hispanic people do in fact wear sombreros and eat tacos, but that's not all those people are. To portray them on such a surface level is insulting and/or condescending. Same with LGBT.
*Anyway, returning to the topic at hand:*
A straight person using LGBT struggles like they know them just feels false.
It's like a (cis) man trying to explain what the menstrual cycle is -- while well-learned male gynecologists exist, and many men have spouses/parents/siblings/friends who have periods on a regular basis, it's literally impossible for them to know what it's truly like.
-- Sincerely, not a gay person (who has not the faintest idea what the closet is like)
@Elisa Castro OFC. Kind of how black/brown-face in media was the fault of non-whites? Get me some of what you're smoking, damn!
I am a straight and got that feeling too. :) even got second hand emberassment from it. What makes it worse is that the analogy she uses makes it seem like she thinks that if every single person came out of the closet, homophobes would see them different... plain wrong, not all homophobes are "scared" of gays (afraid they would do them harm like a monster in the closet), many are disgusted of gay people or just simply hate them or dislike them because they are sinners acoording to many religions. if she wants to include a statement against homophobia, fine, but then do it well.
@@sofiab.9129 exactly !! I see what she was trying to do there, but she's acting as if all homophobia stems from simple ignorance when that's really not the case. Fully grown adults do not have trouble comprehending same sex love, because there's nothing to misunderstand. Instead, their hate comes from (like you said) either religious ideology or by surrounding themselves with this us vs. them mentality.
The fact she compares The Odyssey and Iliad as a less preferable content to her poetry, the audacity.
She is so ignorant, it's hilarious.
I read them both for school and I'd do it a million times again, just to be petty about the 15 min of reading content you get from her shit poems.
i love this comment becouse Odyssey and audacity sounds kinda similar got me a little giggle. (also so true)
Had my copy of The Odyssey next to me on the table when she said that, my jaw dropped lolol
If I was at a book store -
Sees Illiad and the Odyssey
Sees Gabbie Hanna's 'poetry'
........Grabs Illiad and Odyssey because I rather read something good
As a lesbian, I don’t need Gabbie to write a shallow poem on my behalf about a struggle she will never understand.
Hannah Faye as a lesbian I absolutely agree
As a ???? I agree
as a gay man, i 10000% agree. it feels very patronizing.
as a new gaybie it physically hurts me
As another lesbian, when she said "actually this is about homophobia" I rolled my eyes so far I saw my brain rotting
Gabbie: "This book... is filled with riddles and puzzles that I want you to solve. I'm inviting you to solve them."
Me: please uninvite me
Like what riddle is there in "link. in bio"
She terrorizes Gotham with her invites.
"Riddle me this Batman...!"
She is flat out lying. She thinks we're stupid. That's the thing about riddles--they're mysterious and she can pretend like they exist when they don't.
The biggest riddle is why it got written and published in the first place.
you never were invited, you came at your own free will.
Gabbie, trying to make herself cry to avoid criticism: iT hElPeD mE hEaL-
Me, a gay person who didn't enjoy being called an animal: ... sis
WHICH POEM?
@@xxcoralcovexx3154 in the poem “Closet” calling gay people monsters she said: “What are monsters if not *animals* ..”
As someone who writes poetry to heal and feel better even my rushed poems because of the time they were written aren't that vague or simple
As a poet I use metaphors to make my emotions tangible while from the reviews I've seen and her poems non of them seem to have any depth and I'm saying this when I've read poems written by 13 years old and thought they had a depth in the matter
@@NotimetoVero wow...
@@xxcoralcovexx3154 yeah it's crazy dsjkasjkaskj. If the poem had just been about seeing danger where there wasn't any, the animal comparison would have been totally fine, especially considering that a lot of monsters ARE animalistic (werewolves, the kraken, the vampire associations with wolves and bats).
But because Gabbie instead decided to hyperanalyse the fact that she used the word "closet" and paint herself as this massive ally for the gay community, she ended up dehumanising us and playing into the same homophobia she was trying to call out. Perhaps if she'd put even a minute of thought into it, she would have seen that glaring contradiction, but instead she wants her fans to dig into the poems while still overlooking her language use.
Gabbie: "Maybe you don't get my poetry because it's too deep for you"
Her poetry: I dunno, yanno? *picture of a cactus*
I get it's not deep, but for me the poem is describing the feeling of when you get defensive over something your trying to hide. You say you dont know, put out spikes to deter people...
David Haddad overanalyzing in vain still doesn't make it art
But also, I think you took out too seriously?
And then shell be like, "You could just look at this cactus and see a cactus, or you could look at it as a symbol for wanting to kill yourself" like.... her "Deeper meanings" that she described in that response video didn't really match the poems. like it was just a reach so she could claim her poems were deeper and more clever than they were
I understand what you mean and honestly I agree but it’s almost like an inside joke and they makes sense to her but they probably won’t to you and that’s completely understandable
"oftentime my titles have the ability to change the meaning of the poem entirely" made me scream internally. Literally the most basic starting point of poetry analysis is looking at the title and what it means for the rest of the poem, we were taught this in high school. She's not special.
we have like an acronym we use in school for things we look at first when analysing poetry and the second thing is the title
right??? the “MY titles” made me s c r e a m
She really patted herself on the back for having the title affect the poem.
At the same time I’m glad she said it because it’s like the most ostensive example of how fake deep and shallow the product is
(Gabby)a hetero person: “WhEn PeOpLe DoNt UnDeRsTaNd WhAt ItS lIkE tO bE gAy”
...
Hey just a btw, when gabbie " a hetero female " speaks on stuff like that, str8 ppl that lean towards homophobia might listen, all she's trying to do is help, all you can do is tear her down, it says so much more about you than her
It would be better if she was actually a good ally, but she isn't. She's just trying to seem like it so that she can get back pats so that she can virtue signal.
@@KevinSmith-fh2di she literally referred to gay people as animals in the poem
Kevin Smith the problem is she’s writing as the gay person like it’s something she’s personally been through, not to talk to homophobes or for gay people.
@@KevinSmith-fh2di Homophobes should listen to those who have experienced the pain they've caused. Gabbie is speaking over gay creators. There's a difference between speaking out and silencing others.
Here’s the whole situation boiled down: if you have to explain your work, you weren’t an effective writer. You didn’t do what you set out to do.
I’ve had to tell this to my students. When we critiqued their work as a class, they had to sit and take the criticism. If there was any confusion about a character or plot, the writers had to go back and change it because it wasn’t clear enough
Gabbie: real eyes realize real lies. 😔✌
She’s gonna steal that for her next book...
Anal eyes, analyse ,anal lies
We gonna get another poem like
“Time is relative
Beauty is relative
Family is relatives”
😔🤚
STOPJFDWDV
This is 10x better than any of her poems in that whole book😂
How to prove you are a legitimate artist:
1) Wear quirky overalls
2) Paint brushes in background
3) Is that an actual bottle of ketchup
6) cry about your art
7) Tell people they did not get your art.
8) make videos about how deep you are
9) do an awful rap about how terrible being a youtuber is while being able to quit at anytime.
10) delete instagram cause you cant handle criticism
THIS COMMENT THREAD IS EVERYTHING LMAOOO
Do I personally like Ariana Grande’s music?
No.
Do I think she’s a good singer?
Absolutely- she’s very talented.
Do I personally like Gabbie’s poetry?
No.
Do I think she’s a good poet?
Absolutely not lol.
What a shitty argument lol
are you saying that argument is shitty or a different one
@@Tony-tp8yz probably referring to gabby’s argument about preference and taste. haven’t watched the video yet, so just a guess.
@@brittanyalej you can dislike something and also recognize that is it just objectively bad
Completely agree, theres a point when something goes from subjectively bad to objectively bad.
@@Tony-tp8yz yes, that's the exact point of the comment we're replying to
Wait....... so she said her book was a parody but got offended when Rachel did a parody herself?
@@danasmith940 exactly! I commented something very similar. It is also very typical for GH to justify everything like that: 'It is never her fault, she had done the very best and that is always (almost) perfect! She has a justify for every argument'
Maybe she had done her very best, but that doesn't automatically mean it's good or better. Maybe don't publish it, when it is so horrible for you to earn critique for that and if it is such an important topic for your mental health. Therefore you should not be in a rush.
(If e.g. she has to pay her rent with it and signed a contract so she can eat sth or so, it would be sth different, but it looks like she is just an entitled youtuber and doesn't know the struggles of being mentally ill AND have an artistic job where you fear for your wellbeing, your home etc.), so she doesn't HAD to publish it. That was her free will built on her ideas.. so I don't understand why it is so poorly written (and my mothertongue is not English, how you can probably tell)..
Parodyception.
@@danasmith940 Standard narcissism, talking in circles so you can’t follow whatever they’re actually saying
Funny, I don't remember typing this.
There's a quote from Pablo Picasso that states 'Learn the rules like a pro so you can break them like an artist.' I think this is where Gabbie fell short, she never actually learned the rules of poetry so she didn't have the ability to effectively twist her poems delivery the way she wanted to and have it be successful.
JeejeeArts love this!!
Yes! People who have funky styles can often do realism really well! This should apply to writing
I feel like even her more lazy poetry could be funny if she only had like one or two of them and the rest were fully formed and complex.
That is literally T.S. Eliot's Tradition and Individual Talent. There's tradition that you use as a foundation, and then develop your individual talent which again takes the tradition forward.
And you don't always have to know the rules, just have some autocriticism. She lacks of that skill so obviously she won't be able to write a decent poem.
She said her poetry book wasn't meant to be harmful, but at least one or two poems belittled suicidal ideation and self-harm. Her comments on mental health are genuinely belittling and harmful.
People have to realize, impact matters more than intent. Intent can have an impact but not get out of jail free card.
But is it really surprising coming from a person who claims to be a mental health advocate but is quick to call people "psycho" when they don't agree with her lol
Yeah, I mentioned Cut in my first video. I've struggled with self-harm, and still do, for around 10 years now and when I read Cut, it genuinely left me feeling hurt and disgusted. I felt like she used one of the biggest struggles of my adult life as the punchline to a joke.
@@mimoleta she had a psychology degree to justify the bad shit she says and to make other people see 'oh but im a meantal health advocate,, haha i also have mental health issues' but clearly it doesnt hide how shitty she cts towards mental health
Gabbie Hanna'a writing is the biggest romanticizer of mental illness I've ever seen.
WHY AM I JUST NOW FINDING OUT THAT Y'ALL WROTE A BOOK IMITATING GABBIE'S BOOK CALLED "DOGOLESCENCE" 😭😭😭🤣
An author should never behave this way towards a reviewer. Coming from the book community, it's shocking to see Gabbie's behavior, and I've seen better authors go down for less. You shouldn't be forced to defend yourself because you're allowed to think whatever you want about a book. Reviews are for readers. Period.
her thinking that we don’t “get” her poetry because it’s too deep really shows her ego
yeah that condescending face and attitude when she said _there's a deeper meaning if you guys look for it_ my GOD lmao. I'm a writing major (to state it plainly) & I've not once seen even a fellow critiqued classmate (some of whom have had similar egos) come close to saying anything like this, even tho it's just to peers who both aren't subscribers and aren't paying customers, yk? how dare you criticize the people who put you where you are & then call them _stupid_ ? SPECIFICALLY regarding poems that used timeless clichés + metaphors EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS lol. but ESPECIALLY regarding a topic (referring to the homophobia one..) that lots of *your own fans* understand more than you ever could b/c *you don't even go through it* ??? I mean jesus, sorry for sounding "tRiGgErEd" lol I just can't believe a response to critique (as opposed to a UA-cam apology to controversy, meaning it could have been clear cut point blank) actually made it _worse._ And she went thru, edited it, & still found it completely ok, disregarding possible FAN interpretation as usual
Especially when most if not all of them is something I can go on tumblr and read for free from 13 year old girls who are SoOoOoOoOo DeEeEp
Right I thought it was so stupid when she said that. I definitely got it, the whole book looks like my angst depressed poems I wrote it middle school but shorter.
We don’t get it cause it’s dumb lmao
Stream GLASS HOUSE MAY 1ST!!!!!😏
“it doesn’t become good just because it’s about something that’s important.” THANK YOU RACHEL, this was so needed. you so beautifully communicated the frustrations i have had with gabbie’s work. the piece WAS lazy and it utterly patronizing that she panders to her audience about them “not getting it” when the real issue is that the product she produced was poorly made.
YES!! She faults us for not "getting it" when her thoughts were poorly communicated to begin with
Especially with that monster poem like ?? Don’t tell me I don’t understand feelings about being in the closet! I know them pretty well and clearly she didn’t because nobody was like “Gabbie omg you nailed it exactly how I felt when I was in the closet” after reading it. It’s not comforting it was insulting to insinuate you could capture the anguish of homophobia and being in the closet with 16 or so words. Also if nobody gets it then that’s on the author not the readers? I felt like she asked people to go searching for meaning because she can’t find it herself and was too lazy to create it.
Add rapper cause apparently sis thinks she's good at that too...
(this is coming from an autistic person), it's literally like when somebody who's not disabled saying they know all about ableism, it's fucking patronising.
Rachel: Apologizes for the video being a voice over
Me: doggy :D
I love it lmao
Day 6,936 of being a gay: another straight white girl is automatically brave and deep because she uses the word closet. I am tired
Elisa Castro yeah lol totally slipped my mind that only white girls are unable to use the word closet. Silly me 🤦🏻♀️
Honestly this comment is a better poem than Gabbie's poems, and it's not meant to be one. Big sigh.
Elisa Castro literally no one said that lol
I’m tired and I’m not even gay.
That just felt like a really lame attempt to get the lgbtq+ community to relate and give her money.
gabbie is someone who would ask for drawing critiques and then when she gets them say it's "just my style!1!1!!"
hard facts
Seriously tho when she said “that’s art baby” I was just thinking about mspaint deviantart ocs and thinking of them saying that just cause people don’t like them doesn’t mean they’re bad... sure art is subjective but at a certain point u gotta admit ur kinda shit at a lot of stuff
@@amoamomaomao7181 That being said, a lot of that MS Paint OC art is made by children, so you could say that it makes it more excusable, especially in comparison to someone who's an adult person.
isn’t that what she’s essentially doing though, “it’s not bad or lazy it’s supposed to be easy to digest”. lmao she acts like a twelve year old kdkfjf
@@uwuowo2621 It's supposed to be simple and easy to digest but at the same time there is a deeper meaning and don't take anything at face value.
To sum up her message in the video:
“I can acknowledge the idea of criticism”
She said she only takes criticism from her close friends ..........who are biased and obviously would never tell her her poetry really sucks ass
Just because the words hurt you doesn’t mean you can’t grow from it.
She wants people so only talk soft to her. No mean words :(
@@Laura-zz8el Probably meaning no honest words.
@@Laura-zz8el Also her peers. I frankly don't know what to make of that. UA-camrs? Singers? Authors she has read? I mean you'd think she'd mean fellow poets or authors, but she wrote one (pretty meh) book. Who are these peers then?
Her comparison to Shel Silverstein is honestly a bit offensive in my opinion. Just because poetry, and literature in general, is written for children does not mean it is simplistic or that it took less effort to write. The most outstanding children's lit respects the power of children's imaginations. Shel Silverstein is one of the greatest American poets to date. He has a fantastic grasp of language. His whimsy is intentional, not lazy.
The only thing remotely comparable about their poetry is that they both have line drawings...
If we judged everything based on intent, then Tommy Wiseau’s film “The Room” would be a cinematic masterpiece based solely on Wiseau’s initial intent. He thought he was making a serious drama, and he failed epically. Just because he had the intent to make a serious drama doesn’t mean he succeeded, and his initial intent doesn’t suddenly make his film a masterpiece. It’s still hilariously bad.
Nicole Ziege - And because he handled the criticism so graciously, he now has a lot of unironic fans :)
But because he failed it became a classic. Life is strange that way.
Please don't compare the Room to this garbage
If you watch “Best Worst Film” the documentarian takes the director of Troll 2 to a showing of his movie (that people watch similarly to The Room) and he seems totally baffled by the concept of liking something ironically (clearly viewing himself as a serious artist) or why “people take even the parts that aren’t comedy and look at them as comedy” or something (ngl his Italian accent is so thick) and he is genuinely insulted that people were laughing the whole way through, instead of only at the parts where there’s a joke. That’s why I had to look up his name as opposed to Tommy Wiseau (which everyone knows) to make the joke that Gabbie Hannah is Claudio Fragasso.
@@blazaybla22 I guess you could take it as cultural differences, in Italy it's apparently considered very disrespectful to laugh at someone's work when it isn't intended to be comedic.
Its so cringe when somebody’s talking how deep they are
I was getting flashbacks to Onision responding to Strange Aeons' review of Stones to Abigail
The Shannon Channel Exactly! If you have to tell others you’re smart, deep, funny, etc - you’re not lol
Her poetry tells me her mind is shallow as a shower.
The Shannon Channel i have a friend who said she was deep bc she could understand the movie to all the boys i loved before “on another level”
especially when it ain't all that deep
It kind of hurts to watch a straight woman write a poem about homophobia and then act like she's so much smarter than her audience for it.
It kinda hurts how everyone scratches every nook and cranny to hate someone instead of just ignoring her
Did you read her poem alone or just hop on the bashing badwaggon? I don't think she meant to be rude by making a gay poem.
I don’t even think she wrote it about homophobia. She was just grasping at straws and needed some dEeP meaning for her video.
@@krisd6811 I don't think she was being rude by making a gay poem, I think that she was rude for being condescending about making a gay poem. Her ego was very apparent throughout that whole video, and while there is a lot that I won't complain about, her acting like she's so intellectual for talking about this thing that she never has and never will experience rubs me the wrong way.
@@liyanai151 honestly I wouldn't be surprised
me seeing Gabbie's video: Oh, cool, maybe she'll acknowledge that she isn't a serious poet and that it was simply something she'd had for a while that wasn't meant for consumption originally.
Gaby: *Compares herself to Arianna Grand, Gordon Ramsay, and compares her poetry to the ODDESEY and ILIAD, and says her's is better*
Me: Ah, well at least its nice to know that some people aren't destined for growth or development.
How gabbie can even say Rachel isn’t an intellectual is astounding. Rachel gives a good in-depth critique with actual poetic knowledge. Just goes to show you she doesn’t actually watch the videos the people she slams make. I’ve recently found Rachel and she’s one of my favorite content creators. 💗
Because she doesn't know what intellect is, evidently.
Okay, this is one of my BIGGEST pet peeves. People think constructive criticism means criticism that's put nicely, but that's not true. You can give really constructive criticism that hurts like hell. That doesn't make it not constructive.
I'm a writer and a lot of my writing gets ripped to shreds. It hurts, but the critiques help me grow. A lot of people are too defensive and assume criticism is a personal attack when it's not.
Yeah, constructive criticism just means criticism that contains constructive advice.
Aubree Tanner she also makes it seem like all art is inherently good no matter what anyone thinks about it
@@ladycaticorn2950 YES this is something I learned in basic. I never wanted to listen to the people who yelled at me and then someone put it this way. If you're in combat and someone yells at you to do something, you're gonna do it, cause even if they're a dick about it, if they're right, you do it.
Criticism is the same way. How nicely someone puts something had no bearing on how right or wrong they are. Those are two separate scales.
It hurts good tho
It honestly seems like she saw that Milk & Honey sold a lot of copies and then made a bad poetry parody without realising it.
funny thing is that milk and honey isn't even that good to begin with. the poetry in that book is a joke and white girls just really resonate with it for some reason.
@@fey0217 Same reason this white girl thought Good Charlotte and Green Day were super deep and thought my parents just didn't understand me. And the next generation though the same thing only about Fall Out Boy and Panic at the Disco.
Coz from 13 to 20 odd, our dumb brains are developing into hopefully smarter brains. The hormones fuck with you head and half of us become angsty little fucks that think anything with a depth of puddle that sounds like it *might* be describing anything remotely similar to what you're "going through", is so cool and so indie and so edgy and so different that no one else could possibly ever understand you. Oh puberty 😂
kate Did you just compare emo music to Rupi Kaur? Don’t ever disrespect 11 year-old-me’s music taste again 😩
@@sky3670 ahahahahaha!! 🤣🤣 Oh mi god. Plz forgive me rawwwr 😂😂😂
@@fey0217
is it poetry
or decoration
for my instagram feed?
my starbucks cup
is as empty
as my
heart
(insert scribble of a turtle choking on a plastic straw)
There's a free one for her next book!
I find it pretty disappointing that she misquoted her own poem. Very simple poem, and she claims her book is a 'work of art'. I'm no poet, but I can remember a short poem I wrote back in high school, word for word -- and that was made over 15 years ago! I don't consider that poem great, but it stuck with me all these years because it was a reflection of me and the struggles I was facing within myself.
And if you really can't remember it off the top of your head, just read it out of the book so you might not embarrass yourself/embarrass yourself less
Yeah when I read my poem which I had written only about one year ago, my friend was surprised. The friend hadn't written any poems before. I'm sure that Gabbie didn't try to write even a basic one.
Gabbie calls her audience a bunch of morons that take everything at face value, an then proceeds to compare herself to all the greats? Absolutely not.
I love the juxtaposition of Rachel’s sassy voice and adorable pictures of her and Kyra. It’s so deep and I’m sure there is a metaphor in there somewhere
Rewriting “Monster In The Closet” because I’m gay and angry :
I knew my room was different when I was young
There was a monster in my closet
She smelled like lavender
And sounded like wind chimes
She’d smile at me
And I felt my heart
Stop
The monster had long golden hair
And soft lips
And delicate lashes
There was a monster in my closet
And I want to let her out
Ok, so. I love this.
Toe to Tip That's a Bart omg that poem is so good!
That was amazing! Dude do you write poems?
I'm not crying, you're crying! 😭
Damn I actually got choked up reading this. It's really fucking good.
Gabbies problem is that she comes up with these themes and ideas, but then doesn’t execute them properly and uses the excuse that “you’re supposed to read between the lines and pull back the layers in poetry” and while yes, good poems usually have layers, (like ogres and onions👌🏽) you need to actually make the layers ACCESIBLE to your audience. All of your deep and dark layers don’t matter if they only exist in your head and not on paper. Then she misunderstands people’s critique as not being smart enough for her poetry and her head gets so inflated it almost makes her nose look average
I felt that burn all the way in Antarctica. 🥶
😳 but it’s true though-
This was my exact thought. You can say a poem about sleep is actually about wanting to die… but you’ve got to at least HINT at that
The typical "know nothing about it" type of person... stupidity
when she said that the didn't watch rachel's video and then that people hide behind 'constructive criticism' ... when rachel had perhaps the most constructive video about her book
Yeah....I don't think you get to review someone's criticism without listening to it first...
Im straight and i find it very strange to write a poem about experiencing homophobia. Or really writing a poem about anything in general that i dont experience, written in the perspective as if i do. Its just a strange thing to do. Like I'd understand a poem about how you feel about it from the outside, but putting yourself in someones place in a situation you have no experience with and then acting like you do, is very strange to me.
@Elisa Castro oh i agree, its when you pretend that you like personally understand the situation when you clearly dont that makes it cringe as fuck. Its all in the context.
I feel that way about disney movies. They misrepresent tons of cultures native Americans, the people in moana, Hawaiians.. but they arent them.. so they shouldnt be able to make a movie about them right? Isnt that what you're saying?
Kyleigh Hemmingson you do know Disney isn’t all white people and that especially in the newer movies they have spent more time on accurately creating a story that accurately represents the culture it takes place in. There’s a difference creating a story around fairytales or stories or cultures and writing about homophobia and racism when you don’t personally experience what it’s like to be in that situation, that real people still experience. It can’t be done sloppily and lazily.
So true
As a lesbian, I have no problem with straight people writing a poem about experiencing homophobia. I don't find it strange and I find it amusing. Honestly, the world isn't full of deep thinkers. Most of them will only understand based on the surface of perspectives. I can't deny that there is a small number of people who actually can understand deepness in perspectives. Gabbie isn't one of them.
it's kind of irritating the way gabby talks about art. She uses the "art is subjective" argument to justify that you can't just say her poetry is bad or good because everyone has different tastes. You can still look at any piece of art and recognize how skillfully it is executed and still not personally like it, but you can't deny it is good art, even if it doesn't allign with your personal tastes. She speaks like the technique that goes behind art is irrelevant and can't be criticized. There's a reason people study any kind of art...
period. thank you for putting it in words
The thing about Gabbie's poems is that they feel unfinished, I mean her final result in a poem is usually the starting point or some of the ideas poets start from to actually write something meaningful and intelligent
Sorry if anything is misspelled, english is not my first language :D
Looked up the reviews about Adultolescence and found this gem.
"I purchased this book because I watch Gabbie on UA-cam. When I finally got it, I was so excited to open and read it. The front and back looked cool and I hoped the content was too. I started reading it and it turned out to be so different then what I expected. The book wasn't a story, which I was expecting, but just random,pointless and upsetting poems. I had bought this for my birthday and I regret it so much. I wasted my money and I didn't even want to read the rest. Also, the time the book took to arrive was too long, the book itself is a huge disappointment and shouldn't even be called a book, and when I examined the cover and back, I saw that the top and bottom part of the covering for the book was damaged. As a person who loves books, this upset me a lot. So not worth it and would never recommend for anyone to buy it." XD
WHEN SHE WAS _EXPLAINING_ THE “MONSTER IN THE CLOSET” ANALOGY.... JESUS CHRIST
Exactly like who would ever link that to homophobia just by reading it?
That was just painful
The fact that she has to explain the entire poem to her audience says a lot.
Right! She's acting so woke and the queen of being a gay ally but it feels so incredibly shallow and there's no genuine emotion in it
She really thought she did something you can see on her face how proud she is. I'm DYING 😂💀
Everything about her screams “I’m narcissist.” That’s all I gotta say.
Yea textbook narcissism
I’m a narcissist and i feel offended
Even narcissists have standards
Not really. Sounds like ADHD but maybe is narcissism. Still she needs help
Definitely
LOVEBOAT (I’m taking up poetry as my quarantine hobby, be gentle)
I walked up the hill a few blocks from the house in my new shoes.
You told me you hate creases,
so I tread delicately.
Monday’s and Wednesday’s are my favorite days.
They are the days I get to make you smile.
And on those days, I put on my new shoes,
free of creases,
and walk up that hill of mutiny
atop which is a lonesome well.
I drew water from it,
the tension in the air so barely there,
I was scared that I had calmed down.
I was scared that I had creased my shoes.
Monday’s and Wednesday’s.
The days I get to make you smile.
I’d come home with a bucket of water.
I poured into you,
but instead of meeting my eyes
you looked down at my feet.
“I think I see a crease forming. Get new shoes,” you said.
And I just smiled.
I was scared that I had did something wrong.
I did do something wrong one day, however.
One Wednesday.
It made Wednesday my least favorite day,
because that day I didn’t make you smile.
I had gone up the hill,
the hill of mutiny,
with no creases in my new shoes,
and filled my bucket with water.
The bucket was empty.
But how can that be possible?
I just filled it.
You had drilled a hole in it.
The water freely spilling out of my bucket-
And now I have no more to pour into you.
I offered to go back to the hill.
I’d run,
I’d rush,
I’d reverse my wrongs for you.
You didn’t smile at me.
You didn’t meet my eyes, instead-
You looked down and my feet and said:
“Running will put creases in your shoes.”
That was lovely
I really loved your poem. I hope you keep writing. 💚
that was lovely! & made me tear up lol
That’s so beautiful!!! I can really feel the emotions in it, I love it.
CEO of showing not telling
If Gabbie wanted to make poetry to help her process her mental health struggles; why did she also feel the need to try and make money off of it?
The fact that she thinks people would rather read her poetry than The Odyssey just cracks me up
Oh my god the way she explained the "Monster in the Closet" poem was just infuriating. The connection to homophobia is so obvious it's painful, and the way she over-explained it felt so patronizing to me as a lesbian. "People who don't understand what it is to be gay"??? That's YOU girl!!! If these poems are supposed to have helped her personally, why on earth is she writing about experiences that do not belong to her? She clearly doesn't understand what gay people experience either and the superficiality of this poem definitely reflects that.
shes acting as if she's the christopher columbus of homophobia like gabbie, honey we been knew.
yxw fr and the way she said “this is actually about homophobia.” and looked into the camera as if she did something I can’t 💀 what did she expect us to be like “thank you straight gabbie for writing about this topic 😫 you’re the only one who understands we’re so glad you were here to save us”
I’m with you because I’m gay too. This is getting easier for me to admit!
It is so infuriating! Im in the closet and I couldn’t believe she would attempt a poem about homophobia when she has no actual experience with it. She is not LGBTQ+ so it is not her story to tell!
@@laurenalbano7035 I'd argue a straight/ cis/ whatever person could write about LGBT+ topics if they had a friend in the community who could help them understand things like that, but it's clear Gabby only consulted herself. Also, with how personal poetry tends to be, writing a poem about something you don't experience is kinda...iffy.
Gabbie: "I can take constructive criticism...but only from my friends and colleagues"
Also Gabbie: "I won't have any friends or colleagues in my life that aren't always actively trying to hype me up"
Gabbie's next "poem" will probably be something like:
My name is Gabbie
My friend's name is Pattie
We will eat meat
And then go for a run on the street
So we can become petite.
But none of us will truly understand it because it's too "deep."
I love that the “its too deep” also functioned as a slant rhyme, it made me chuckle a bit
This poem is about anorexia and wanting to be thin. I used to go on runs all the time to stay slim because every little calorie used to matter to me. This was a way to hide my pain about my old struggle with anorexia and mask it as a fun, digestible, easy to read poem for everyone.
You just don't get it because it's too deep for you to understand.
yeah and then she'll say it's about having an unhealthy relationship with food even though all it says was that they ate and then went for a run lmao
Ok but why does this sound exactly like something she would write?
What I heard about makeup, that I think also applies to poetry:
There are no rules, but there is a theory.
I’ve found a fellow Robert Welsh fan
You watch Robert Welsh, don’t you? Haha
miss1awsome1 Yup, just started recently. Love his videos :)
I love how I’m not the only who saw this and said ROBERT WELSH lol. Love him!!!
Stephanie no they're just comparing it to gabbie's poems
Even someone like James Marriott, who's video was meant to be more of a piss take and a little bit less serious, he still gave her credit when he saw a poem that he thought was good. Gabbie has such a victim mentality.
ikr! like he does that style of content with everyone ffs he does that to his friends all the time he just loves to slag on people but he isn't trying to be genuinely hateful
James always makes sure to bring up positive stuff about the people he talks about and makes it christal clear that he is not hating. It's just lighthearted jokes & irony and whenever something is borderline he makes sure to bring the joke back to him...
I love our trilingual dad
tonksnjoy Satan I love James Marriot! He’s hilarious and intelligent and seems to be a caring person.
Elisa Castro perfect way to explain it.
@Elisa Castro yeah that was beautiful
Can we be absolutely CLEAR that Dr. Seuss and Lewis Carrol (who wrote pieces of Alice in Wonderland to his 6 yo neice), and AA Milne (I think he wrote to his nephew? Not sure.) -all of these authors were writing AS and/or FOR children.
They still used QUALITY POETIC/LIT TECHNIQUE to powerfully communicate timeless themes that can be comprehended throughout an individual’s lifecycle or at least have a range of ideas that are more apparent from age 6 to 16 to 60. They used the CRAFT of humor and poetic rhyme, lyric, metering, and form to illustrate their ideas. GH’s work is neither powerful or timeless-and she certainly does not invest in her craft.
One of my biggest issues with these IG “poets” is that they are so scaffolded by their fans and followers such that they nolonger think they need to become excellent at their craft. This is a great disservice to art; it’s created a benign tumor in the art world complete with its own angiogenesis of uneducated, lazy readers, writers, and entitled youths. Narcissism keeps their worlds entact, not classes and critique. They’ve formed a world of their own where they have success without accountability-a lie.
YES. I’m literally working on a video about poetry for children which covers this exact topic! :) (you know, just without the references to you-know-who)
@@RachelOates thank you!!! It takes skilllllssss to write such a spanning piece of work as they wrote. And life experience condensed into children’s verse? Come on.
Christopher Robin was AA Milne's son, he wrote the stories for him. But yes, you are absolutely right.
i'm insulted that gabbie thinks i don't have common sense and basic deducing skills to read awkwardly placed phrases with fluffy vocabulary.
She just doesn’t get it. You’re too deep for her haha
She just doesn’t get it. You’re too deep for her haha
That is because... she is NO writer
Her reading her own poem without any particular rythm or intonation... just WOW
i’m starting to get really sick of cis hetero girls trying to explain homophobia back to us.
same, straight people can talk about homophobia but only from the outsite, they shouldn't try to pretend to have experienced something they haven't and never will
@Paulie Doodle let's not make that a thing please
@@rat-dog7357 it's definitely a thing, it just has a name now.
@@sadpotato3386 no I just meant the name.
Adina P and then calling us animals 😳😳😳
Gabbie hanna is what happens when a narcissistic tumblr girl who tells everyone how “deep” she is gets a platform but not therapy
I need therapy.
Definitely. And when it doesn't go her way, she plays the victim to get rid of valid criticism.
*crying* "it helped me open up about my struggles and the deeper meaning behind my trauma"
*The poem:* "I dunno, yanno"
If she needed to work thru trauma why did she have to publish them for profit? She could have just kept these to herself
@@icravedeath.1200 Better Help can help.
@@JaceDeanLove betterhelp sells your data and hires unlicensed therapists
Just because a poem “comes from the heart” or is a “piece of their soul” doesnt mean its good like sis ive written so many terrible songs and ive written good ones, both of which “bore my soul”.
it doesnt matter how much truth there is in a personal work of art if its not good its not good
I know this is gonna sound douchy, but…piece of her soul?
Then consider getting an exorcism or visiting a shaman.
Synopsis: There once was an upcoming poet, Who published a book just to show it, The book, though , was filled, With poems unskilled, But apparently, she didn't know it.
Better than anything in her actual book!
That was wonderful
10/10
Limericks are the shit
Omg plz write a book
“People don’t want to read the Odyssey and the Iliad” Me: *nervously glances at the four copies of the Iliad on my bookshelf*
Me: Glancing nervously at my Greek and Latin textbooks
Yo forreal i felt so condescended by that
Like classics arent boring by default and young adults can be genuinely interested in them ???
For real, Homer is music to my ears, I've loved reading The Illiad/Odyssey since I was 15 and I have multiple copies of each lol
I haven't read either of them since my high-school days but that's like a pianist saying that no one listens to Mozart anymore lmao. And that's coming from a pianist who can't stand Mozart's music.
watching this after gabbie's wild outburst yesterday, every point you made is 100% valid and she is the biggest hypocrite alive.
I was thinking that too. I've started with this video but re-reading some of the poems Rachel chose to use as examples here, I just... 😑
The fact that you spent more effort in your parody than gabby in any of her poems speaks volumes.
Gabbie's the definition of "fake woke" lmao
But isn't real "woke" also just as cancerous?
@@Keznen Do you know what woke means? It just means you're aware of social justice issues like racism, sexism, xenophobia, etc and that you care, as everyone should. It's not cancerous at all.
@@xtonibx5770 No it doesn't. "Woke" is a term used by far left SJWs only.
@@Keznen Leftists (like myself) fit the definition of "woke" that I gave. That's literally what the word originally means. Far left people use it because they care deeply about these issues and aren't afraid to talk about it even if people mock them by calling them SJW's. I also haven't heard anyone use this word unironically since 2018.
x tonib x ur both wrong being woke is being in tune with the spiritual realms and being self aware. So I would agree gabi is fake woke
me, an actual gay, reading her closet poem: ....... *are we monsters to her or*-
so what if i’m a MONSTERRR
NO NOT TO HER, just to everyone else in the world. She's a special snowflake, she doesn't mind.
That's what she think of gay people. HONESTLY....
she’s suggested her being a monster, so what if she’s closeted and disrespects the community as a way of trying to hide it. i’m not fond of this theory but it exists
Rochelle Ann even if she’s closeted and trying to hide it, doesn’t mean she gets the right to dehumanise a huge chunk of the LGBTQ+ community. LGBTQ+ or not, it’s still homophobic
Gabbie's poems are basically im14andthisisdeep in printed form
also did she just diss on ma boy Homer
You never diss homer (or ma boi Socrates).
(Philosophy joke).
I'm doing an online English 11 course right now. They literally teach: "Pay attention to titles because they can often change the meaning of the entire poem or essay." They hammer it into my brain. But Gabbie says HER poems can be changed by the title. Um... yeah. That's not special. That's how poetry works.
Ya know...as a gay...I don’t really like being called a monster... also don’t like a straight woman trying to tell me what it was like to come out of the closet...sooo
I admit, I haven't heard the poem, but from comments it seems like she was calling homophobia the "monster". Again I haven't heard it yet, but I'm just confused as to why she would call gay people monsters.
99% Unicorn 1- if you haven't read it, maybe don't comment on it's meaning?? and 2- it was read in the video, but here it is
what is a monster
if not just
an animal
we don't know
she claimed that the meaning behind the poem is that gay people don't come out of the closet because they get treated like monsters, because people are afraid of the unknown. which is true or whatever, but a straight women explaining that is very patronizing and fake deep :/
As another gay, I totally agree.
I could not, I just couldn't when she was talking about this one.
A much better poem would have been if it was about her seeing us as monsters then growing out of that and seeing things the way they actually are... instead of pretending to be us and deal with our struggles.
I’m not siding with her in the slightest and I’m not 100% certain on my fact checking because I refuse to watch a click bait video BUT I vaguely remember something about her coming out as bisexual? Still, as a member of the LGBT myself I’m not happy being referred to as a monster but I feel like Gabby can play the “haters erasing my sexuality” card if she were to address comments like these? Although, she may not be bi and I may be overthinking her awful victim mentality. Her trying to develop a deeper meaning for that poem cracked me up. Xx
@@littlebimbopeep if we're going all Gabbie, and needlessly reading into her "works" like she wants us to, we could also point out that her song says "maybe I'm the monster" *gasp" 😮😮😮
My English teacher has a saying: if we judged everyone based on their intent when writing an essay, they’d all get A’s. To me I feel like Gabbie is pushing back because she feels like she should be judged on intent, not on the actual product. Especially on the iron poem, which just frustrated me as much as it did you. Criticism hurts. Every writer knows that. But it’s necessary (constructive feedback obv) to make you a better writer. And her not taking it just proves that she isn’t trying to be a better writer, she’s trying to villainize her critics who are just trying to help.
Sheela Yuan Precisely!
i noticed a pattern in her behavior that she just.....loves to portray herself as the victim. she’s a good person who has good intentions but gets misunderstood easily, her poetry is actually a masterpiece but her bOoLLiEs are just too mean to realize that, etc.
That Iron poem is literally what i think in my head when i get a cool idea but im too lazy to finish it and create a deep creative thought 💀💀💀
Oohhh, so it is okay for HER to 'parody' Shel Silverstein with her first book.. just ain't okay for a beautiful soul like Kyra to parody that book of hers. Okay, got it now. 👌👌
Hey Rachel,
I just want to apologize to you. I was subscribed to you awhile ago but I left after you made those Gabbie videos. Even though you had so much good and thoughtful criticism in those videos, I did feel bad for Gabbie because I thought that the titles were unnecessarily mean. After hearing you explain yourself a little further with your logic, thought process, and philosophy on constructive criticism, I totally get where you are coming from. I was completely wrong for unsubscribing (I am actually embarrassed that I did because I never do shit like that) and I just wanted to apologize. I'm not narcissistic enough to think you even noticed or cared (if you did notice) but I definitely was wrong and felt that you were owed an apology.
Also, you had so many insightful things to say about writing and critism.. And I respect the fact that you were still honest about her writing, even after she sent you her 2nd book. For you to not allow yourself to be biased took huge balls and says a lot about your character. You're an extremely intelligent person and make great content. Sorry for being an emotional idiot! Take care!
Sincerely,
Chad
As a gay, I hate her poem about homophobia. You don’t actually understand “what it is to be gay” either. Why are you writing about it? I used to be a Stan of her too smh.
To be fair, I don't think it's wrong for a straight person to write or talk about the topic, just don't pretend like you understand.
a gay?
99% Unicorn theres a difference between using your privilege to educate vs. acting as if being an ally means one understands
@@LizzyThewolf Ok?
@@LizzyThewolf Word.
No one wants to sit down and read the Odyssey or the Iliad??? Just the nail in the coffin that proves Gabbie has NO clue when it comes to literature and poetry....
Yeah, that part struck a hell of a nerve.
For real! I dont mean to flex or anything but my copies of the Illiad and other works of complex poetry and literature do not collect dust, I read them all the time, I lend them to friends, people enjoy reading that.
I had to read the Odyssey for one of my college classes. I dropped the class and took it a different semester with a professor who didn't assign the Odyssey, but I kept the book because I enjoyed what little I read of it. I really should continue it one of these days...
Nobody wants to sit down and read the Odyssey or the Iliad but art is subjective and not everybody likes the same things. Gabbie Hanna contradicts herself so much.
No one wants to sit down and read gabbie Hanna’s book 😳
she is talking about how people always remove the "constructive" part from the critisism,,, girly how do you know if you never watch any of these videos?
Gabbie explaining her poetry gives me the vibes of someone who explains their jokes when nobody laughs as if they don't understand, when it's just not funny and it makes the situation even more awkward...
Dude, Gabbie acknowledging the criticism would have been fantastic if she had actually... you know... acknowledged the criticism instead of making excuses and playing some victim-ish role. I would have loved to watch a video where she rewrote a poem with a little focus on basic techniques so it went beyond surface level.
Mikaela McAuliffe
I understand that she’s emotional because poetry is emotional but the crying felt manipulative? It felt like she was trying to be a victim by addressing the issue in tears. I think you should calmly discuss your reasoning to clearly defend your work
As a gay woman... yes, Gabbie. I got the closet metaphor. It was impossible to miss. And it was bad. 🙄
Hi I'm woman who's into woman that doesn't like Gabbies "poem" about the whole homophobia thing so here have a new and hopefully improved version.
___
So here I sit patient, silent, ashamed
Respecting the wishes of the children and their master.
I dared to peek past once
Beyond that little door.
I see a place iv dreamed before.
But yet
here I sit
same place I was born
And here I shall remain.
Crushed, smushed, tucked away
A so called monster that cant be tamed.
At least not today.
This is so thought provoking yet simple! I love the imagery of being tucked away and the sense of hope in the last line, massive improvement from gabbies poem:)
How beautiful.
I bought a full illustrated book of Shakespeares 100+ sonnets as an introduction to poetry haha it’s freaking amazing I haven’t even gotten around to reading and analyzing it all. You can really see how his life changes through the different sonnets he wrote through the years. Amazing. I recommend for people to read them all!
hi hello what’s the name
@@naveenakhedar the name of the book?
@@naveenakhedar Shakespeare's Sonnets: The Complete Illustrated Edition on Amazon
@@alexandriaking8544 I just got my hands on an antique illustrated copy of his works and it's gorgeous! It was a bargain too only £7!
Wow, on the "deep" poem about homophobia, can't believe Gabbie Hannah thinks that I'm a monstAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Hey, at least we can be monstAAAAAAAAAAs together 😊😊😊
sorry i know that it's been a year but this comment genuinely made me snort, thank you for the lil bit of happiness :)
Beautiful
I guess we’ve been here all along
she was talking about how people are so rude to her in the comments and I literally commented “Rachel Oates gave you an unbiased and informative review” or smthn like that and she replied to another comment in the thread, so she saw what I said and just ignored it. *edit*** another person commented something similar and it’s not part of a thread & it’s near the top, so hopefully she will listen to that one 🤞
"Gabbie Hanna's poetry is BAD" is unbiased and totally constructive? Yeah ok my bad. Maybe Rachel should pick another title next time.
"Gabbie Hanna's poetry is BAD" is unbiased and totally constructive? Yeah ok my bad. Maybe Rachel should pick another title next time.
@@nadjak3410 lmao did you watch the video??? because you probably didn't if you think she was biased going into her "poetry". sorry.
@@nadjak3410 She used a clickbait title, but the actual video was a lot more nuanced and unbiased.
@@eagerturtle4791 Gabbie's excuse for that would be the same excuse she supposedly/allegedly (lol) made for lilly singh for not listening to videos critiquing her show (like Drew Gooden's vid).
Kinda like "if you truly wanted to be constructive, you shouldn't insult the creator at the beginning of the vid bc no matter how constructive you are for the rest of the video the creator's not gonna want to watch that vid bc you already insulted her."
This is insane. She doesn’t want criticism? That’s what writing is. I just graduated with a Professional Writing degree, and our professors edited us line by line, told us upfront what was wrong with our work and hardened us for criticism. Critique is key. Sometimes you don’t get compliments, sometimes your editors just place your work on the table and say, “this is unreadable.” The only reason this piece was published is because she’s marginally famous. If she was unknown, publishers would have immediately turned this down.
The reason Gabbie’s book did so well is because she had a massive fan base to begin with. Makes me, a poetry author (book in the works) very sad. There are so many struggling/small poets and authors that don’t have a fan base. We actually take our time on our work, pour our hearts out on paper and the keyboard and then books like hers sell like crazy, not because they’re really good, but because they’re famous. Her poetry isn’t even poetry. It’s just a book full of lazy, rushed, and terrible “poems” ... 🤦🏼♀️
when her voice broke i got laura lee vibes i’m-
i forgot about her omg
This comment is gold
why does she look like her in that video too
If an artist, a term I use loosely around this woman, has to explain the meaning behind their work, then they have failed to deliver that work.
Also, I greatly appreciate the breakdown you did of her poems, in that you used comparisons, rather than just stating it was bad. Gave me a better appreciation of the artform.
I do think there's times it is justified. Like when Twisted Sister had to explain to the US Government that no, that song of theirs (literally called Under The Knife) that Tipper Gore thinks is about bondage is about going under for surgery, and that Tipper shouldn't have such a dirty mind when she's the one calling for censorship, as that is hypocritical.
However, Gabbie Hanna is not Dee Snyder and Adultolesence is not Under The Knife.
@@GeneralNuisance00 I do think it is different to give context because Gabbie was explaining the deeper meaning whereas in your example they just said the context is surgery. I think it's kinda like some art series where your like ummmmm what but the title clarifies the context, and what's happening but doesnt tell you how to interpret it (like marilyn minters dirty pretty one of my personal favorites)
@@marjee7116 You also have the fact that Dee Snyder, unlike Gabbie, was using this to refute attempts by the US Government to create an environment where censorship of music is easier. Gabbie is crying about hATeRS.
not really. art is subjective. not everyone will understand it. it doesn't mean failure instantly.
But the purpose of art is to convey an idea, an opinion, feelings, a story etc.... if no one is understanding your art whichever medium you choose (paintings poetry, ceramics etc) then you didn’t execute well. Although art is free flow and there are no rules, there is a theory behind it which if followed correctly will allow an artist to convey their message clearly
It is SO SWEET that you read poems to Kyra, and that you wanted to make them “match her voice”. It doesn’t sound stupid at all to he, it’s actually very touching.
I swear to god that "You're disgusting...ly perfect" poem sounds EXACTLY like a Thomas Sanders vine. Seriously, if that's what she kept in, i really do want to see what was scrapped, because i can't imagine it getting much worse than this.
as someone who is gay, its quite patronizing to be told that i don't understand the monster poem from her new book lmao. the poem is talking about my struggles and she thinks she has to sit down and explain, as you stated, a fairly obvious meaning, as a cishet person with a lot of privilege.
Straightsplaining?
Elisa Castro K hetero :/
I felt the same way about the monster in the closet poem. Gabbie is a cishet person with no experience of homophobia. I'm nonbinary and gay, and it really pissed me off. She has no right explaining to us how we feel.
As a bi woman that part made me so angry, especially with the queerbaiting she’s done in the past with the “well, I don’t know, do I like girls? You guys will just have to see” attitude in some of her vlogs a year or two back. She has absolutely no idea what we have to go through, what we think about, the struggles we face, and it shows so much in her resorting to the “in the closet” cliche and doing nothing with it. (But of course watch her come back in a few months and try to claim she’s lgbt to deflect backlash 🙄)
@Elisa Castro no, they were upset because Gabby is someone who's never gone through the same thing that an lgbtq+ person goes through (hence the cishet part), and it is frusterating to read that from someone who doesn't really understand.
the bland recital of the monster poem reminded me of that thing that said "love her lack of energy, go girl give us nothing"
The best thing about this whole poetry drama is that the comments end up filled with these amazing poems from random people on the internet.
"I truly don't get upset when people make fun of my music or poetry"
That didn't age well at all
this is literally r/im14andthisisdeep
YES! This is the kind of crap I wrote in middle school, she's a grown woman!
except she's not 14 and it's not deep at all. she needs to grow up and realize she's lame af.
I want to like this comment but it’s at 420 and I don’t wanna be the one to change that
It shows that her maturity age is stuck at 14. She needs to deal with her past and her current self. If she doesn’t, she will stay like this and never mature
Herrinah Zhang oh my god yes
i don’t like gabbie telling me, a gay woman, what it’s like to be gay when she is straight to be edgy abs relatable
Unless.................
She could have written a similar poem about hiding under a desk and made it about anxiety instead. But no she has to write about something she hasn't experience instead of something she might have. Oh screw it. I'll write that poem.
OK so I DID write that poem.
*My Desk*
Beneath my desk is a magical space
That holds the world at bay
It hunkers down to hide my face
And my distress allay
For as I crook my neck to fit
And as I tuck my feet
Into the narrow table slit
Right where I make my seat
I let my hunched up shoulders down
And let my musings stray
Until my brow has ceased it’s frown
And whisked my woes away
And as I gain my wherewithal
With to my panic beat
My back so warm against the wall
No longer feeling meek
@@MissCaraMint Much better than Gabbie's. 👌
Rewatching this while Gabbie is losing her shit over a dog's poetry 😆😆