Can you play T10 for FREE in World of Tanks?
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- The pinnacle of World of Tanks is Tier 10, it's often the goal of players to reach, but when you get there, can you play for FREE?!? Here's the answer!
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NO, you will go bankrupt. Thank you, QB for keeping it honest. Even at your skill level and having a near perfect game, made you some credits. Now for the average player, it is terrible. Just another scheme by wargaming to sell more premiums that you must play in order to support tier 10 play.
That'd be a net positive to the playerbase, which means making less money for WG, so it's not happening
That is their plan, why they implemented tier 8 "money making" premiums. You lose credits in tier 10, then play lower tier to grind credits, want to make more credits, buy a tier 8 premium to afford your tier 10s.🎉😮😅
@@HyperScorpio8688 sadly you are right
I did a new damage record in a Grille 15, 6025 damage or something like that. No kills, no premium account, no credit boosters, I fired 8 AP shells and penned all 8. I made something like 6076 credits, barely more credits than the damage I did. In a usual game I lose credits... It's tier 10 economy. WG wants you to play tier 10 but to pay for boosters and premium time and premium tanks to make credits so you can play your tier 10s and spam gold.
It's Business.
I fire nuffin but gold
Short answer: Somewhat
Long answer: You can play tier 10 f2p, but you will lose credits, even when winning.
In a lot of tanks, you'll lose credits. Some tanks like the Kranvagn is profitable, but without food... Lmao
I fire nothing but gold
u need prem account and no gold no prem consumbles.just regular shells and small kits and do like 2k pier battle and no matter what win or lose you wont lose credits
F2P players have to grind hard to unlock their first tier 8 premium from the bond store and then grind hard with that free premium. Some of those free premiums are decent, but they're still punching bags for paying players in their Borats and BZ-176s. It's much easier to just open your wallet when the Borat goes on sale and at least you're on a level playing field. The game is not F2P friendly unless you're happy at tier 6.
🐋@@dr_zotiac
That Conway at 8:20 was contemplating why he's grinding that line after seeing that tier 10 get obliterated by HE
I have seen lots of fv4005's going to the heavy lane, landing one shot and then dying. I guess the 1750 damage they do is enough for them to have every game.....
And I just picked up the Conway yesterday :(
Nice catch xdd
@@Eren03erenthey only need ~1800 avg for the 1st MoE 😂
that is why i try to play it smart when i use it. lots of Damage per shot doesnt matter much if you die after hitting one single shot. and even then, you are not guaranteed to pen either, meaning that the risk is not worth the reward if you play it like a shotgun.
i play it as a strategic Peekaboo tank and sometimes snipe as well. it is stupid how good one can do with this thing if one plays smart.
i would not say tier 10 is in a good spot it's far too expensive for people to play it on a constant base, 14k credits for baseicly a insane game no for any normal game for the base line tanker they would lose a fair bit of credits and if you are unlucky even more. i know this is a hot topic but tier 10 needs to be looked at
Don’t play tier 10 you’re not supposed to make profit there. The problem is you’re playing against sweat lords with no life who pay to ruin your experience
@@David-ps6pq yet i sweat and make a profit at the same time, just git gud
@@scoutboy776go touch grass, if your making a profit in tier 10 consistently you haven't seen day light in a long time, I know some with an almost 60 percent win rate and they still lose credits, tier 10 has been a problem for a very long time and isn't about being good
I'll lose 30 grand after doing really well
@@chez6459 dont use premium ammo, that make your credit goes to minus. With the repair and resupply your ammo cost so much.
This is one of the largest drawbacks of this game for me. The sense of losing... Even when you win. At tier 10, there is no gameplay. You are not playing towards anything.
It would be way more fun and useful if losing credits at Tier 10 was almost impossible.
For example: At Tier 10, multiply credit punishments by 0.2 and multiply credit gains by 0.6
Normal calculations: 100.000 credits gained from damage dealt etc, 100.000 credits lost due to repairs etc -> 0 credits gained
New calculations: 60.000 credits gained from damage dealt etc, 20.000 credits lost due to repairs etc -> 40.000 credits gained
You make way less credits, but you also get punished way less for taking damage etc. This way the premium tanks can stay how they are and make you tons of profit at Tier 10. Now the players are happy because they make more profit and Wargaming is happy because they can sell many Tier 10 premium tanks to people who want to make big profits.
It's how war gaming designed the game. Tier 10 is supposed to be the end game where you pay. That's why I don't play above tier 8.
Game was designed to progress to get a better upgraded tank. As you continue down a tech tree everything will increase as well as higher tier players will be better and offer more of a challenge. You don’t NEED to pay to win. Memorize the game, take the time to learn what to do and not to do.
@@TheNobleExotic exactly
I realised this years ago. That's why I didn't go above tier 8.
Anything up to tier 6 is fine, but that's were its crests. After that you will start to lose credits.
Thank you QB for this accurate description of WOT.
TIER 8 - 9 - 10 is more or less break even on the 8 and quicly drops down to a loss when you go towards the tier 9 & 10 vehicles.
You can compensate playing tier 10 by playing a lot of tier 6 & 7 though, run credit boosters, participate in events etc.
Blitz has way better economy, for sure. Repairs are free, non-premium ammo is free, since recently basic consumables are also free, and you get credit boosters left and right. Definitely a more player friendly game
So apart from purchasing vehicles, for what else would you need credits then? Because like if you have reached the endgame, what stops a player loading full gold in every battle, because the credits are now useless otherwise?
@@robinkhn2547 The fact that blitz is a more well balanced game overall, and gold shells aren't even necessary a lot of the time. And they deal less damage than regular shells, so you're discouraged from using them as a replacement for regular ammo
I agree, I have some issues with blitz but I feel it's just bc it a mobile compatible game it can have some issues but I love it
@@robinkhn2547depending on the tank you lose somewhere between 12% to 15% of your dpm when shooting gold so there's that
You can still play it on PC tho blitz really is an amazing game you can make such easy progress as free to play and u can watch videos to get free gold and they have lots of events where they give away free tier 8 premiums and below aswell as good offers to buy gold and other tanks @joelopezjl28
I don't play WOT for years, but I still watch your videos. Good job. 😃
Well done.. it’s terrible now. 10 year vet, and I play against A.I mostly.
Since i play F2P and very casually, i agree with you QB, it is a „skill issue“ in some way, if you are good, aim good and hit most of your shots, its fairly easy to at least get the credits back you used for your shells etc, since im favourably using the 60TP, i do have some premium shells, (20 standard, 5 premium, and 5 High Explosive shells.)
I can sometimes feel myself struggling when i come up against the reward tanks, BUT it all takes for me to be fairly successful against them by pressing the 2 key, hitting one or 2 shots and then switching back to AP.
Conclusion:
F2P in WoT requires a fair amount of skill, alongside a fair amount of credits.
Whoever read this, i wish you all a great day!
And this right here is the reason I left wot
F2P but I use 50/50 regular and gold, large repairs and large medkit on most high tier tanks. Had enough resouces to buy 268v5 and Lion. Still have 20mln and a lot of other resources. I am average and casual player.
Just today i talked about this with my friend. We were playing tier 10, had fun, i played tanks like IS4, IS7, OBJ.705A, S.CONQ, KRANVAGN, E4 and managed to get a 3.8k avg dmg in like 15 games. Not crazy but decent imo. I fire gold only at heavy vehicles, like E100, Mouse, Vk, type 5 Heavy, where normal shells would be useless. I use only small kits, and no prem food. I have no premium and didnt run any booster. So after the session i checked and had 350k minus on my account :)
Afaik tier 10 has always been designed to be unaffordable, to acx T8 premium sales, I remember books from 2014 talking about it
The thing is you spend a lot of your time playing wot, so even if you don't spend like on your play for free account, you still have bond equipment and premium tanks from marathons. Most casual players will never win a tank from marathon. I am talking about players who play one or twice a week. Maybe 10 games a week or something 😅 . In reality your playsforfree acc isn't actually free anymore
It is still free, but just not representative of a casual players account. And even for casual players its still possible to obtain free premium tanks, namely from the bond store. Sure, it will take a while to get the amount of bonds together needed, but still very possible.
He came to the same conclusion as the players you are talking about though.
i pretend that the game ends at tier 8 and it makes me a lot happier
Until u meet a Jagd e100 in ur IS-3😊
@@TsyhYinnjust Bz in t8 and u eat sh*t...
You mentioned Luke and the force. His name Lucky Luke is a cartoon character. He is a cowboy who shoots faster than his shadow. it's a belgian cartoon. and a lot of fun.
This is why I’m winding down my account, selling my T10s and down until all I have left is a handful of fun tanks. After selling maybe 50 tanks, I’ve been able to load up on my T6 and T7 and get 2 MOE on most. Getting the 3rd MOE will be hard and require that I sell the remaining dozen T10s and probably as many T8s. Doesn’t matter. I’m actually feeling some relief playing how I want.
I'm just average at tier 6/7, so I only go up to tier 10 to challenge myself and while I'm losing credits when I do, it's less than 5% of the games I play.
I believe that the best tiers to play and keep a good income are tiers 6 and 7, if you dont play premium tanks and without a premium account. If we play premium tier 8 tanks even without premium account it will be possible to keep the income balance in the "green". I like to play tier 9 but you allready start losing some income, so need to be playing some lower tiers or premium tanks to get some income to pay the "fun tax"
Finally someone shows what this game is about. 🎉 free to play ends at lvl 8 if you grind credits at lvl 6.
I think the credit calculations really need to start including consumables at full price. Wargaming has started starving people with consumable sales and you almost never make it to the next sale before running out. Especially if you're free to play because you don't have oodles of credits saved up to spend when the sale happens
One slight difference QB has when starting a new ftp account is: he plays a lot more than the casual player.
Non the less, that's a cool thing for a creator to do! So hard to casual ftp this game 😢
Thanks QB for kicking my butt and killing me in this frustrating game where my team didn't wanted to win a side :p
I'm F2P player since the beginning (more than 10 years) and I've no problem playing tier 10. I don't use premium consummables apart the automatic fire extinguisher at tier 10 but I've a big reserve of them by missions. I shot gold only when it's needed. I've some premium tanks, some bought long time ago (Super Pershing, Mutz, Centurion 5/1 and Fury) others I had for free (ShPtk, Obsidian, IS-2S, Panther M10 via CW, lots of tier 6 by drops). My favorite tier is 9 but I play tier 6 to 10. Results : I'm pretty close to have unlocked every tech tree tanks and 80M credits in reserve so I'm able to play everything I want when I want. I'm also helped by being in a clan who runs lots of boosters. Anyway, I think I loose credits one game every 5 at tier 9, 2 on 5 at tier 10. Playing tier 10 F2P is possible but it requires to have a decent level to get good games and not playing tier 10 only. If you have one or two premiums you really like is perfect to help you doing credits if you really need. It's possible but you need to know you will not be the best in tanks stats so you have to compensate by being accurate, knowing weakspots, able to anticipate situations or by your minimap reading. It's sometimes hard but so satisfaying when you are able to have great games.
I play like 2 or 3 hours grinding with my Cromwell to pay 1 hour of my tier X... Sometimes it goes well and I get a good profit even with tier X ^^
When the game first came out you could earn 1million credits on a great game. How things have become so bad
No you couldn't. Don't lie. When they first released t8 premiums (lowe & kv5), a great game in either of them would net around 250k
@SuperSteelyGlint yeah you could dude! I remember fondly the first week of release
Surprised you are buying med kits. I got so many large med kits and automatic fire extinguishers from the holiday event that I haven’t had to buy one all year.
I started WoT in early 2011 and it's ALWAYS been known to me that you play the lower tiers to fund and play the high tiers. 💯 That was driven home that summer and it's always how I've operated. Mind you the earning potential for tiers 9 and 10 have vastly improved.
When I play tier 10 i tend to no shoot gold at all or very little when i do. Tests my knowledge of the game and helps me learn, so when i push for those marks, feels like easy mode spamming gold.
Most of my battles, i played tier 4 -6. My favorite tank is the M8A1 with about 2000 battles. Most of my games with this TD are against tier 5 and 6 . If you want to penetrate a KV-1 an O-I or other heavies like the Churchills, KV-85 you must load gold-ammo. Some games ended with an empty ammo store and more than 50000-70000 credits minus.... Playing tier 8, 9, 10 will ruin your credits so massive , that i often played only with credit boosters for minimize the lost.
Hi Quicky, been F2P since the start of my account. Not a single euro spend, but managed to scrap together some premiums from the bondstore/ trade ins with gold from the free christmas chest. I think you can do T10 F2P, but you'll need to pick your tanks big time. Full gold tanks are a no go and prem consumables won't do either. Mostly need to run 2-3 T8 battles for each 0-15 steamroll at t10 in which you lose a lot.
“Squishy target” 💀 help im dying 😭
On the mobile version, World of Tanks Blitz. The standard shells are free. This was not always in the game however. I think it was only a year or so ago when they made this change.
It would be nice if they implemented the blitz economy so for every medal u get a different amount of credits (3rd class 30k 2nd class 50k) etc as well with the high caliber and all of those then it would be possible
T9 is definitly possible to play without a credit loss, but not for the average f2p player.
I do play T9 a lot, do not use any premium ammo at all, usually don't have premium account (unles you get a few days trough events or missions) and use crew food, yet i break even. I do however admit that with ~61.5% win rate i don't qualify as an average player anymore, so projecting my credit income onto others won't work there...
Thanks QB for this, and tell it to WG ! Been F2P since my start in 2012. I play T5, T6 and T7 to earn credits. Bought T6 premiums with bonds. Remember buying the hole techtree and equipment for all (1,8 mio pr. top tier) takes a lot off grinding. And Front Line..... pffffff..... playing against all the OP premium tanks with Pantera and Udes...... Yeah thats fun......
According to me jg pz e100 and t110e3 is the most cheapest tier 10 tanks to play for free2play players like me... Both of them has very good penetrations on standard ammo, therefore no need to use premium ammo and secondly the armour in these tanks can forgive your mistakes...
Just use the best bond or bounty equipment on your tank. That way you would never have to use food. And you will have very good game... I did my height damage of 8k with jg pz e100.
Nah, I would say the cheapest tier X tanks to play are mediums with high standard pen like the Leo, or medium tanks in general actually, because with the playstyle of most mediums you don't really face heavy tanks from the front, and that's where you need the gold. And JgPz E100 and T110E3 are tanks which do go to the heavy flank of the map, which means it is more likely for you to need to shoot gold. And playing JgPzE100 without gold is kinda wasted potential, because it has the highest gold pen in the game.
I'm a free to play player because I believe that spending money on a free game is... stupid
I can barely make any money at tier 8
that's why I don't play this game unless there is a event or something interesting happening
I have WG premium which covers all three games. I find that playing tier 9 and 10 requires about 2-3 tier 7-8 premium tank battles to pay for each tier 10 battle. I carry mostly standard ammunition with a maybe 5-7 gold rounds which I try to avoid using. Out 30,000+ battles i have played less than 200 Tier 10 battles. Unless you are spamming gold for the most part, it's is very hard to make a difference at tier 10.
Used to play the Tablet version Blitz gave it up after it became clear you needed gold at the top levels, (back in the day when the only way to get gold was real money.)
Now I just occasionally play mid level games on PC WoT
This is super important. Hope something can be done about this, but knowing WG probably not...
Absolutely agree. I play tier 10 when I can afford it, not when I want to
What us the best "high-tier" bond tank that generates profit and is actually good? By high-tier I mean tier 8+. I was thinking about the Objekt 252U. Is that a good purchase or are there any better ones?
T-62A and IS-4 do well when boosted credits, experience and free experience are running.
enjoy your holidays QB!
some of us (I hope there are other people) like to play low tier, but not only the easieness or the better credit income, but for the tanks too. The history of those tanks are so impactful in my case that I far rather play a Valentine or a StuG than these fictional t10 tank, yet having a blast while also getting battlepass points from T4.
Wait, I have been grinding for years to hit T10 and play in a Maus, a Leopard 1, and many other tanks. I can't ? .... The game is not for me ? So I farm for years bad tanks and end up getting smashed on every tier, just to learn when I am near the top that a pay wall is stopping me from playing further ?
No... I am really bummed... I wanted to play in a Maus, and a Grille 15... It seems so fun...
Well I am sad, don't know if I will continue the game.
Goodnight, from France
I think that standard ammo should be free, you should not have to repair your tank unless you die, and small repair/med kit and fire extinguisher should be free. That would help the free to play people just enough. Wouldn't make a huge difference but it would be enough to NOT go negative every battle
I believe t 10 is in a good spot. You most certainly can play em. I even spam gold only from time to time (switch to 2 key for the entire game) as well as using food (for my Chadpanzer E 100, 82% moe rn, just aiming for 85% because marking is toxic for your mental health)
The dynamic is kinda boring though as i'll have to farm up with my premium vehicles for an entire day once more.
The simple key to a stable t10 gameplay is bond store. Get 1 prem tank, then get another. Make sure at least one has a reliable standard ammo (like my T 103, love it) because that means profit. Furthermore, i have stocked up on some credit boosters, 80, and use them whenever i get a free prem acc which is easy to get nowadays (missions for T55A for example, TD and SPG missions are the easiest thing ever). To get the most out of a prem acc, make sure you only get 1 day prem acc from missions (avoid the honors for missions) because if you stretch it, 4-6 hours before servers restart time is enough for 5 x3 boosts to be applied and then tomorrow you can apply them again, which means 1 day of prem is 10 x3 exp bonuses.
My 2 bond tanks are T 103 and T-34-3, both tanks are goated and work very well for me at least. Also, both can overmatch very well and hit noticeably, meaning even gold ammo isnt so bad to use when in a pinch. I plan on getting a 3rd bond tank now, got 7k bonds already. Thinking between Patriot and 252 U because a heavy tank can afford to get more involved into action if you know what i mean. 252 U can go in while Patriot is just too comfy to play because of hulldown, gun depression, fast reload and dirt cheap standard ammo so i'll have to decide on that.
I've played around 10 years for free and nowadays I play almost exclusively tier 10. The missions give me easily enough credits to play only tier 10.
Definitely not with a heavy where everbody uses Premium Rounds but if i would try i would take the Grille as it has pretty bad premium ammo and uses regular amoo pretty often anway
I’m not good enough for tier 8, let alone tier 10 gameplay so I’ve never bothered getting a tier 10 even though I’ve been playing for almost 10 years now. Makes me wonder how the economy changes from that long ago compared to now
I only load 5 shells in my T10 Chinese light tank because I will lose money otherwise.
I had a great 7k spotting 3 kill game and still lost 2k coins
THATS REALITY
Add to the issue, the majority of us lack the level of skills as possessed by Sir QuackyBaby.
QB lacks skill 🤣his problem is that he is playing on EU the most brain rotted server, if he played on NA he would get yolo rushed 1 out of 4 games
QB, you should do a video on what it would cost for a new player to rush through the tiers and to obtain the top tanks in the game.
Are we talking a few hundred dollars or a few thousand? Lol
Next video, best free to play tanks at tier 9. Staring Prototipo Standard B 😍
Kinda depends on playstyle, i play a lot of light tanks and dont go for dmg much as i would in another class, ive had sessions in the manti where i made credits
I can confidently say that Tier 8 is the last tier where the average (around 50% winrate) free-to-play player will break even or profit when they win. If you had a good game and win, you will have a decent profit. If you had a good game and lose, you might break even, depending on how good of a game you had. At Tier 9 you have to start playing well every match to at least break even, but getting a profit at this tier is very hard for the average player.
I can say that is Tier 9. Means you fire to many gold of use to expensive kits.
@@henkgeenreetaan1374 If you care about penning all of your gold shots and actually being impactful in a match, sure you will almost always profit a little at Tier 8. But remember that the average player does not care enough or does not have the game sense to know when and how to use gold. They might shoot it randomly when they feel like it's needed and miss/bounce half of their shots. That loses you a lot of credits, even when you win.
I remember playing a Tier 8 game recently and doing like 3k damage. I also shot at least 10 gold rounds of which I probably missed about half. I lost like 50k credits even though we won the battle. With a premium account that probably would have been a profit of 50k, if not even more than that.
I'm 95% f2p, (I've bought a couple of tanks here and there over the years) and I've always thought of tier 10 as being the tier that you "get" to play as a reward for your grind. Like a vacation almost, you pay a ton of money but hopefully you have some fun. Then you go back to tier 8 and actually make some money to be able to afford to do it again
Given up playing more than tier 7, not being a very good player I have set a goal to get every tech tree tank up to level 7, did it on the Xbox in Europe now trying it on pc in Asia.
Consistently sustainable free to play tier vehicle, I like my 9's and my 7's which I will reasonably make credits in. (No boosters etc etc) - the reason for the 7's is that you can only up tier to 9's and a tier 8 (which you will often see) still has more than enough soft spots for you to pen and get good damage on, doing damage on upper tier vehicles grants you more exp and reward value. When I am playing in tier 9's or 10's more often than not I am forced to go into stupid sniper coward garbage stat padder style of play because the teams and players are now all tending to do that style, instead of using their armor, or their mobility or their view range (QB's video from a few days ago here commenting about the super sniper mediums that pretty well condemned his team to losing because of their cowardice and ineptitude)
The best thing about your plays4free account is it’s not all tier 10. Before you got that account it seemed like every video was tier 10 and I knew I wasn’t going to have a tier 10 for at least a few years.
Thats why i bought the elc even 90. Very cheap to repair, easy to earn 50-60K and even when you lose you make money most of the time.
Up to tier 6 it's all fine, then around tier 7 issues with making money start and continue all the way to tier 9, however when I reach tier 10, I play it anyway for most of the time. Yes, earnings are meagre, but I play arties, thus it's mostly a complete loss of vehicle or survival without much repairs (usually, but I play risky, thus coming under fire isn't uncommon either), and it also impacts spending on rounds - gold isn't much needed on arties. The rest of the "trick" is helping your team to win as a support class.
P.S. Besides, it's all about fun, and I REALLY hate game play on heavy tanks! I don't care, how "meta" they are currently, I don't like them, thus I seldom ever play them (unlike the very beginnings, when I started by going up to some German heavies). Mediums are jacks of all trades, they feel fine. TDs... they are specialised and don't really fit me most of the time. Light may feel nice, but I'm afraid to fail team by not being a good spotter. Heavies are just awful given their slow speed, besides it feels unfair being rewarded for stupidity of opponents - when they simply fail to penetrate you. And no, complaining about lack of speed while playing arties is not an oxymoron or an irony, I just pick fast ones with mobility high enough to quickly switch flanks or run around whole map.
Noticeable exceptions are KV-2 and KV-5, while they are still heavies, they are meant for fun.
When your team wipes in the first 3 mins game after game & you realise it’s random whether you get a team or a bunch of players frustration starts to bubble .
I have only one t10 and I play only few games per session with it as it’s too expensive. Even at T9 you lose credits in a not so good day. You win 3 games and lose 2 and at the end you end up with less credits. I don’t play often so I miss most of the events. I have 3 t10 that are researched but can’t afford to buy them. Similar situation with t9 and 8. I need to work in the game I am using to relax after the hard day of work…
Tier 6, 7 and yes 8, even if its painful sometimes, is what I usually play. Tier 10s, really not for me.
Was that you quickybaby in the top of the fv4005 at tankfest 🤔 ???
Let me say this. I'm a free 2 play player and I was an arty player. I recently sold most of my tier 9&10 arty because they aren't fun anymore. I spent the credits buying tanks on the lines I like, like the top American TD's and some of the Objects (am I the only person that spells it?). By the time a free to play player has the resources to grind a line to tier 10...it gets nerfed before it's obtained. Especially if you suck like me. So now I have one tier 10 arty, a T110E3, and an Obj. 430U. I also have about 50 empty garage slots.
Its hard to be a f2p before at 7.5 update with no premium accnt to grind credits, I used kv1 and pzIV to grind credits. but still I enjoy the game.
For f2p, tier 6 is the sweet spot. Its a high level battle and you can still earn credits. Its balanced and enjoyable.
I used to be able to afford to play tier 10 without premium account but RNG forces you to use Gold rounds too often that if u don't want your wn8 wnr8 and KD to suffer you have to spam it.
QB, just be aware of the fact that the replays site is not working correctly. I'd urge you to take an actual screenshot of the battle results, as at this time you're talking bollocks.
The amount of credits you gain on a Standard account is not the same as the one from the Premium one. The "Received" already includes the 50% extra.
So what you're actually looking at is the following:
Received: 38.302
Repair: - 20.738
Resupply: - 19.470
Consumables: - 3.000
Total: - 4.906
So while you loose every time money, that's why you need premium tanks and/or premium account in order to get to enjoy playing at tier X.
tier 9 is the maximum if you want to earn any money as a F2P
I play mostly tier 5, 6 and 7, even lower sometimes, 8+ is hopeless.
What was the Grille doing in the town?
T6 is where you can play just for fun and make money, above that and you have to play well (Plenty of Damage) to survive financially
Your calculation o the net profit regarding NO premium account is wrong, because the displayed number is wrong (it is the same as with premium account). The gross earned credits are actually 57453/1.5 = 38302. Ignoring the mission payout and subtracting repairs, ammo and consumables you actually end up losing credits (net result is -4904 credits). This just shows how fcked up the economy is at tier X without a premium account. You can have an exceptional round and still lose credits. It is ridiculous. So basically in order to make credits at tier X you gotta make sure that you win the battle AND survive with very little or no damage received.
And god forbid you fire any gold rounds, in that case playing tier X is like playing an anti-premium tank with regard to credit income.
For me playing T10 is a mixed bag. Some of my T10 tanks like the Amx M4 54 can turn me a profit in most games even at my skill level. But I found that it really depends on how you spec your tank. The moment you put a premium consumable on you NEED to have amazing games in order to earn money. I run food on my Progetto 65 and if I don't do 4k+ damage a game I will lose money for sure.
I thought this was about whether it is realistically possible to grind your way to Tier 10 at all, as a FTP player. Probably not. Just too many battles required.
Isnt t9 usually the same as their t10, just that t10 has a bit more hp?
With premium account and specific tier IX tanks that do not need premium ammo or have free repair kits, I can manage to play those and not lose money most of the time. That even without getting all discounts for resuppling consumables and running food. This includes credits you get back. If I am not wrong, 2.5K damage and 1K assist is there about breaking even. I mean, your worst game shouldn't go under it. Then good games will give you some room. You definitely do not want 5 minute games where your team is over ruined and you have done under 2K damage because then you need lot of good games to compensate and with way games go nowadays that's not easy for someone who is not super unicum.
On the other hand, tier IX tanks that have weak ammo just become total money sinks. Sane goes for the tank's that has unreliable guns. Big RNG variations just cost credits and are there to milk the money and regulate the economy in the game.
I started the game 2 weeks ago on french tech tree and managed to get all tier 6 tanks with all previous tanks with "elite" status. But I feel the game slows me down so much in my progression since tier 6...
If you are a new player, just stay at the mid-tiers. Not only is it better for credit income, but also for your sanity. Because tier X is usually a sh*tfest of full-gold ammo with the biggest whales. Not fun at all.
@@robinkhn2547 Thanks for the advice
@@spikyzan Mid tier is where the real fun is. I stopped trying to go up the techtree seriously years ago, the game became so much more fun when I found fun tier 5-7 vehicles I liked to play. Highly recommended.
I have to have, at minimum, 3 million credits saved up to even think about playing tier 10.
Im a weekend warrior...
Max tier for +1 credit is tier 8 and rarely tier 9 but it must bee a OP tier 9 tank..
I see my friends struggling at 6-7 tier to brake even.
So Im kinda better with
51.95%win rate
47% defeat
WN8 1405
I dont use premium account
but I doo have couple of premium tanks that I acquired as gift tanks , bond tanks etc...
The only tank that I bout for money is ELC EVEN 90. Just for the fun...
tier 6 and 7 is best for F2P
I have played every second game Premium-tank and then "something else", usually Tier 10. Then I balance it quite fine WITH a premium account.... Withoug, I guess I would have to play 2xPremium Tank (which you have to purchase, usually) and then 1 game of "something else".
I played in my account for free untill last christmas when I finally could pay a bit, bought me some lootboxes and had premium for the last 6 months, I grinded more tier 10s than I did since I was playing in 2015. finally understood that it's not a hard game, it's just easier when paying. now that I run out of premium, I have like 19 millions in the account, so I can play comfortably for the next year. Great game, fucked because the advantages when paying are too much.
If you play T10 only - surely not possible to play F2P.
So i play my premiums i got for free and for bonds etc. Also i play my other fun tech tree tanks, they are all cheaper and often pay well.
And yes, i am far from a good player 🤣
Guys should i buy the Elc even 90 for 4930 gold?
nasty...i was about to try few battles
not anymore...
thx!
I lose an average of 30,000 credits per game at tier 10 and I get like 20,000 credits per game in tier 8 prems average. THIS IS EVEN WHEN IM ONLY TAKING LIKE 3-5 ROUNDS OF GOLD AND BASIC REPAIR KIT AND FIRST AID KIT. I fired 4 shells of gold in my AMX CDC and made 477 credits after dealing 1,800 damage 700 spotting on a defeat, because CDC gold rounds are 5k per shell which is insane. I do not have a prem account or boosters.
I am free to play player, I think my most reliable earn coins tier is tier 7. Well, play as AT7. But my first tier 10 is American SPG
I made the mistake of unlocking some tanks that are rather unforgiving to play and since I am really bad at the game, I gave up playing my T10's.
I loved amx m4 54 but the 51 is still good tier for tier however pen is average
why should i even keep playing. im going to the leopard 1, the line is not fun, but im grinding the bad to get a GOOD tank. but i wont even be able to have the credits to play it? this game immediately seems demoralising and pointless to me. WG please fix this, credits seem to be what is going to lose them players like myself. btw, im not even good at the game nor do i play enough to ever get premium. what chance do i stand?
Premium nowadays like a subscription. You cant really play without it.
Curious; how many tanks do you have in each of the two accounts? I know you have hundreds in the premium, but how does the play for free account compare, disregarding the premium head start of course.
Loosing credits is annoying and at tier 10 you can loose up to 30,000 credits for a loss. Below tier 8 is good but I sometimes play premiums and lower tier tanks to get my credits back.
As a FTP light tank player, Tier 6 using the free premium tanks. For Tier 8 bought premium tanks.
That's how i did it for 10 years, playing 3 light batlles to break even for a T10 game
the mission and 750 safe where not even included ,there where different, and as a hardcore lightplayer after 10k battles in lights only ,ow boy the un nerfed hellcat was a guarantee win sinds i would go after the dangerouse tanks first, good times ,
nowa days i only play charfuture and lion- you wait for the mistake and you burst them whit standards ,-my fav prem is 274A thats my heavy :)
I used to play the game from 2013-2016 and got quite a few tier 8 and 9 tanks by playing mostly f2p and had a decent wn8. Anyways, just by chance I picked the game backup a month ago with a friend who is basically new to the game. And it very quickly occured to me that the new player experience is pretty terrible. My friend got some free tier 5s and tier7s to play with but since there's no skill based match making he would struggle a lot in matches and pretty much just drove around and died. Playing tier 1s is arguably worse since the queue times would be almost 10mins for 1 game due to the low amount of new players. (And tier 1 vehicals are just not enjoyable to play to begin with) needless to say we stopped playing after a week or two. WoT certainly seems far from what it was in its glory days and it has become more and more pay to win. Although it might still be somewhat enjoyable for long time players, there is just no incentive for new players to pick up the game... It is very sad considering this used to be one of my favorite games to play.