Bogdanovic is energy, he is captain of the Serbia team, not just shooting and ball handling, and Hawk's don't use him in the right way, like Russ was not used.
This is purely speculative, but I think De'andre Hunter would be better on this team than MPJ. The Jokic Bump is very real, and with it I think his offence is almost as good as MPJ, and his defence is definitely better. You do lose rebounding, but you get a better shot creator, making the bench potentially better. If there was someway to craft the deal to get Hunter, Bogi, and Larry Nance Jr (a floor spacing, good defender that can play a small ball 5) for say MPJ, Strawther and Zeke, that would be ideal.
I rewatched the game against the Knicks and I don't understand the criticism of Nikola's defense. He really put in a significant defensive effort during the game and his defense was very good. The team has a problem in perimeter defense and in simple defensive concepts; for example, you can see it in the first two fouls commited by the Serbian. In both cases there is a screen and a switch, with Nikola defending the guard. In both cases, first Murray and then Westbrook, leave the opposing center (Towns) alone to do a 2 on 1 on the guard. This one just passes the ball to the center, leaving Towns alone and Nikola having to run to get back to his mark, and committing a foul. If you switch, you switch. If you go back to your mark, the rest of the team has to rotate, but it definitely doesn't have to be Jokic who has to recover that position because he already starts at a disadvantage. MPJ, Julian and Murray were really bad on defense, losing their man everytime. Even Watson was not good at all. On a play in the third quarter, Jokic stops a drive by Towns, who has to shoot off balance from 10 or 15 feet with Nikola in front of him. Watson leaves his marker to jump for the block from behind the Serbian, allowing Mitchell Robinson to grab the rebound alone and score.
If we get Bogdanovic that’s another good ball handler and great shooter when healthy . We still need some defenders. Murray / Jokic / MPJ /Westbrook cannot win a tittle on defence this year . Too many liabilities on defence . Too slow & not athletic enough .
Turnovers are killing this team. Against the TWolves 20 turnovers yielded 37 pts for MN. Last night 14 turnovers yielded 23 pts for NY. While NY only had 6 for 3pts. Why are the Nuggs so careless with the ball?
I would do Bogdanovic and Hunter for MPJ in a heart beat. But keep both of them as 6th and 7th men. Russ, Murray, CB, AG and Jokic would be ideal for starting 5, and then Bogdanovic and Hunter off the bench would provide fire power that we lack of atm.
Am I the only one feeling there is something off between Jamal and Jukic's relationship? They dont play well at the same time, and that may be partly because of the relationship , less passing and feeding to each other, etc. Does anyone else see that?
please say it louder so all the casuals can here you. DNVR and 99% of their followers think spacing is just having a guy who has a reputation for shooting threes - and it grinds my gears
JAMAL IS A BALL HOG AND THE SLOWEST DRIBBLER IN THE GAME TODAY WHICH DOES NOT MATCH TO THE PACE THAT MADE THE NUGGETS WIN THEIR 12 OUT OF 15 GAMES BEFORE THE 3 GAME LOSING STREAK. If Jamal is cooking, the rest of the players are out of rhythm due to Jamal Murray Slows down the pace of the game where there are not enough possessions to resolve the 2 over 3 math problem and Nuggets lose when Jamal plays good because he slows down the others players which if you are slow that is awful because you play against a set defense
Jamal is a bad passer, he holds the ball so much and he doesn't find the guys in the right time or he gave them the ball when they are in trouble, he is unsure in passing so much, with the time he takes with a ball he should have 12 - 15 assists every game.
I'm 100% sure Jokic would give up some of his salary to get Bogdanovic to Denver. He should get Porter and Murray to chip in as well. Make sense for everyone I think if they all thought it would improve their chances for a championship win
Capela on trade block,Bogdanovic on trade block,literally fixes all Nuggets problems...If you could somehow get Hunter as well,dude,send MPJ and whoever is not Jokic to Atlanta asap...
It will most likely be a three team trade Mpj strawther and 2031 pick for hunter and bogi and a backup big from third team I personally want Mpj strawther and 2031 pick for hunter clint capella and Jordan clarkson
Trade idea. Mpj and either Julian or peyton to atl for deandre hunter and bogey. All the teams the nuggets have been playing have been attacking mpj. Because he will usually foul and plays bad defense. Deandre is a good defender and averages almost the same ppg as mpj. Bogey paired with a familiar player to him like joker could be the nuggets westbrook vol 2 this year. Even if not he doesn't have to average too many points to be more valuable than either peyton or Julian who are both streaky
Bogie is a nice player when healthy; his chemistry with Jok is undeniable. Last summer Serbia was amazing with those two. But I’m adamant there’s no single trade Denver can do to make them contenders. There’s multiple moves they need to make. Booth put them in too much of a difficult spot with the Zeke, Saric, Murray signings. Zero flexibility in maneuvers now. And honestly, AG shouldn’t be in CBs spot right now. AG has been really bad the last couple games. MPJ is the one who should be coming off the bench, but coach handles him like the Jokic merchant that he is, so…
Nuggets need new GM new coach. Then 3 4 new players. I'm saying this for months... But hey like dnvr guys let's pretend we back, we sooo back 😭🤣🤦🥲😉🥲😉🥲😉 And Jokić and Jamal are so tight rn right? Hahahah Jokić killing Jamal legacy he so bad... Jokić must be run out of Denver ASAP if u want to win another one 😳🤣
Trades are tricky. If a player is hot why would a team trade him, or they would want a high price like peaks. You have to buy low and hope it will work for you like with AG. Its always a risk....
The Nuggets need defenders and three point shooters. So far, they have only one volume three points shooter and that is MPJ. Murray is not and he sucks at defense and sometimes wants to play iso while there are players better than him open to score. If they want to trade for defenders, they either trade their young guys for a 3-point shooter or a defender.
Vogt….😂come on man. MPJ is a spacer? Dude. How many times a game are we watching Mike miss wide open 3s, game after game. Spacing means nothing with MPJ ultimately. Bogie easily would have better spacing & floor presence w Jok. Bogie is smart & has that dawg in him.
I’ve heard for years how great of a shooter MPJ is. That fool puts up more bricks than Lionel Richie and the Commadors. He’s a brick, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, house! Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum! He’s mighty mighty when building a whole damn house.😂😂😂😂
Imagine a fox or maxey with jokic u see it in russ how good speed is with joker plus they can shoot. Jamal is good but also looks like an all star because of jokic and he was him in 2020 but thats 1 year before injury and everyrhing for 5 years he was in shape and hungry and scored now only dribble air out of the ball
Brothers, you are worse than these channels that make fun of us, even Tim Legler has lost his way. Denver no longer has the Jamal-Nikola game, Jamal is too selfish, he dribbles on the court for 12-15 seconds and then tries to get away, but mostly ends up with a turnover. If Jokic makes everyone on the field look better, Jamal does the opposite. You could have seen the attempt to assist Jokic in a couple of games where the ball didn't get anywhere near him, Jamal scratched his hair and let's move on. I would like to see the next two games to put Jamal on the bench to see how the team will function, because Jamal's 24 in the last 3 games are empty stats. MPJ is very bad, not only in these three games, but in general, i found the moment when he shoots a three-pointer and of course he missed, but how did he land holding his hand up, because after the miss he was the closest player of all on the court to Denver's hoop, and instead of making a few steps towards the defense, two NY players are already at the free throw line in Denver's half, while MPJ followed up his miss and remained buried in that spot. Gordon is not even 50 percent of what he was at the beginning of the season and when you add Jamal a very bad season, MPJ is completely not for the starting five in 60% of NBA teams and Gordon's poor form is a product of what we are seeing. I listened to that Ryan Blackburn after the game with Chicago where Jokic's defense is a problem for him, I think the problem is NBA basketball analysis, from people who have never run in their lives. I would very much like Denver to make one trade and release him, and that is to trade Jokic to one of the teams that are sure participants in the playoffs. That would be the best for everyone, for Denver they would get a bunch of assets, for Joker he would win at least one more ring and for all of us who support Jokic. If the Joker hadn't come to Denver, Denver would be like Utah.
Jamal davi loptu a ne zna da doda lepo, kasni, dodaje kad su igrači već zatvoreni, nesiguran je u pasu. On toliko vremena uzima sa loptom da bi morao imati između 12 - 15 asistencija svaki mec.
@@ericwedum6323 We agree on one thing, since I unsubscribed last year at 0-2 against Minnesota and your report from the game. Why, a month ago I decided to give you another chance, but since Eric can't stand other people's criticism, what else are comments on YT for, I'm going to stop watching DNVR and unsubscribe again. Or as they would say in Serbia -Mirna Bačka- I love Jokic, whom I watched when he played for Mega Basket, not after winning the MVP award. I will support Denver as I support Kings while Divac and Stojakovic played there since 2000, we have Jovic in Miami and Topic in OKC and again I love that Nikola brought the first ring to Denver and made a career like Djokovic in tennis. When you don't agree with someone else's opinion, then you debate not push people away from your show.
@@ryanerickson5786 why are you talking?! You have no clue about the subject! If they don't trade Jabum, they should trade Nikola! His back hurts after carrying 27 for 8 years! Who's the biggest Jokić merchant ever 🤔
I'm not sure that any of you know enough about specific player contracts to be talking trades other than doing so just because every other channel is and you're having a little FOMO. So many other things a channel like this guys could focus on with the great group of players there in Denver but apparently no one has any imagination.
The way Malone has handled Russ is causing unrest within the team. Russ should be coming of the bench full stop. If you can't understand why, maybe you shouldn't be commentating on bball ? Love your passion guys but sometimes you all can't see the tree from the forest.
Russell Westbrook is the most effective passer whenever Jokic completes a seal down low, russ is the only one who give him the ball down there, not even Murray can make that pass
@ no one is arguing that point. I like the Denver version of Russ. Ultimately to maximise Westbrook’s impact he should be used an a high energy sixth man.
Unlike MPJ, Bogdanović knows how to create points and he is much better in defense than MPJ! He knows how to dribble, assist and create points for himself, all that MPJ doesn't know!
Bogdanovic is energy, he is captain of the Serbia team, not just shooting and ball handling, and Hawk's don't use him in the right way, like Russ was not used.
This is purely speculative, but I think De'andre Hunter would be better on this team than MPJ. The Jokic Bump is very real, and with it I think his offence is almost as good as MPJ, and his defence is definitely better. You do lose rebounding, but you get a better shot creator, making the bench potentially better. If there was someway to craft the deal to get Hunter, Bogi, and Larry Nance Jr (a floor spacing, good defender that can play a small ball 5) for say MPJ, Strawther and Zeke, that would be ideal.
Larry Nance Jr is perfect for this team since he can play the 4 and 5, which this team needs.
With westbrook u have enough rebounding dont need that u need defence
@@power123-05perfect we got AG at home player too
Nuggets need a solid 3pt shooter.
I rewatched the game against the Knicks and I don't understand the criticism of Nikola's defense. He really put in a significant defensive effort during the game and his defense was very good. The team has a problem in perimeter defense and in simple defensive concepts; for example, you can see it in the first two fouls commited by the Serbian.
In both cases there is a screen and a switch, with Nikola defending the guard. In both cases, first Murray and then Westbrook, leave the opposing center (Towns) alone to do a 2 on 1 on the guard. This one just passes the ball to the center, leaving Towns alone and Nikola having to run to get back to his mark, and committing a foul.
If you switch, you switch. If you go back to your mark, the rest of the team has to rotate, but it definitely doesn't have to be Jokic who has to recover that position because he already starts at a disadvantage.
MPJ, Julian and Murray were really bad on defense, losing their man everytime. Even Watson was not good at all. On a play in the third quarter, Jokic stops a drive by Towns, who has to shoot off balance from 10 or 15 feet with Nikola in front of him. Watson leaves his marker to jump for the block from behind the Serbian, allowing Mitchell Robinson to grab the rebound alone and score.
If we get Bogdanovic that’s another good ball handler and great shooter when healthy . We still need some defenders. Murray / Jokic / MPJ /Westbrook cannot win a tittle on defence this year . Too many liabilities on defence . Too slow & not athletic enough .
You mean murry,mpj,jokic russ is our best perimeter defender
AG is a good defender, but something is off in team
Team was better without Russ
@@user-ic8se1nq4t lol they wouldn't be good if they didn't sign russ
@@oscarkouevi1900 they were better last year without him, they just need a good consistent long distance shooter
@@user-ic8se1nq4twe had kcp who was our best defender and covered for jamal
Turnovers are killing this team. Against the TWolves 20 turnovers yielded 37 pts for MN.
Last night 14 turnovers yielded 23 pts for NY. While NY only had 6 for 3pts. Why are the Nuggs so careless with the ball?
That's mostly on Russ
They don't know better that's why, what are you thinking why? 🤣
Bogdanovic and Avramovic! 🙌🏼
I would do Bogdanovic and Hunter for MPJ in a heart beat. But keep both of them as 6th and 7th men. Russ, Murray, CB, AG and Jokic would be ideal for starting 5, and then Bogdanovic and Hunter off the bench would provide fire power that we lack of atm.
Am I the only one feeling there is something off between Jamal and Jukic's relationship? They dont play well at the same time, and that may be partly because of the relationship , less passing and feeding to each other, etc. Does anyone else see that?
I think Jokic is fed up with Jamal's inconsistency
Yes I do see it.
Playing ball with Murray would drive any great player crazy.
I see that, two forced lay ups with Jokic open for a top of the key 3 point shot made me think there is a riff between them
Facts anf refs also😊
There is something wrong with AG also
Spacing is not all about shooting, cutters on the weak side or knowing where and when to cut are also floor spacers @Vogt
please say it louder so all the casuals can here you. DNVR and 99% of their followers think spacing is just having a guy who has a reputation for shooting threes - and it grinds my gears
Yes but 3 pts are more rhan 2 and you need to take a few more not become the celtics but they dont make enough
@@-ac-8296hear*you
@@Serenity01871if your pace is 5 times better and controls the rebounds and have 5 more possessions then that solves the math problem
JAMAL IS A BALL HOG AND THE SLOWEST DRIBBLER IN THE GAME TODAY WHICH DOES NOT MATCH TO THE PACE THAT MADE THE NUGGETS WIN THEIR 12 OUT OF 15 GAMES BEFORE THE 3 GAME LOSING STREAK.
If Jamal is cooking, the rest of the players are out of rhythm due to Jamal Murray Slows down the pace of the game where there are not enough possessions to resolve the 2 over 3 math problem and Nuggets lose when Jamal plays good because he slows down the others players which if you are slow that is awful because you play against a set defense
Jamal is a bad passer, he holds the ball so much and he doesn't find the guys in the right time or he gave them the ball when they are in trouble, he is unsure in passing so much, with the time he takes with a ball he should have 12 - 15 assists every game.
I'm 100% sure Jokic would give up some of his salary to get Bogdanovic to Denver. He should get Porter and Murray to chip in as well. Make sense for everyone I think if they all thought it would improve their chances for a championship win
I didnt like CB going to the bench. He was the 2nd or 3rd best player all season. And doing that after his season high game. Seems wrong. We'll see...
Capela on trade block,Bogdanovic on trade block,literally fixes all Nuggets problems...If you could somehow get Hunter as well,dude,send MPJ and whoever is not Jokic to Atlanta asap...
the hawks would never trade hunter and Bogi for mpj
Denver can't trade anything bro. Worst organization in entire NBA right now. Pathetic fan base and disgusting front office 🎉
It will most likely be a three team trade
Mpj strawther and 2031 pick for hunter and bogi and a backup big from third team
I personally want
Mpj strawther and 2031 pick for hunter clint capella and Jordan clarkson
Need to give strawther watson and picks than maaaaybe
@@arnavanand9257that would be perfect a 3andd wing like hunter a bench scorer like clarkson and then a fck back up big
Jokic needs to leave Denver and get over with it.
Trade idea. Mpj and either Julian or peyton to atl for deandre hunter and bogey. All the teams the nuggets have been playing have been attacking mpj. Because he will usually foul and plays bad defense. Deandre is a good defender and averages almost the same ppg as mpj. Bogey paired with a familiar player to him like joker could be the nuggets westbrook vol 2 this year. Even if not he doesn't have to average too many points to be more valuable than either peyton or Julian who are both streaky
Ok, listen to this,Jordan,CB and Mpj😢,for Bogi ,Hunter and Capella 😊
Bogie is a nice player when healthy; his chemistry with Jok is undeniable. Last summer Serbia was amazing with those two. But I’m adamant there’s no single trade Denver can do to make them contenders. There’s multiple moves they need to make. Booth put them in too much of a difficult spot with the Zeke, Saric, Murray signings. Zero flexibility in maneuvers now.
And honestly, AG shouldn’t be in CBs spot right now. AG has been really bad the last couple games. MPJ is the one who should be coming off the bench, but coach handles him like the Jokic merchant that he is, so…
ag wasn’t bad last game
We have been starved of Mares this season. Feels like he’s missing half of the shows plus not on Locked on.
Dnvr values mpj very high, there is no chance that the hawks trade bogi and hunter just for mpj.
We don't fucking need offense!! We need so defenders!!
Hunter is a defender
@ajcornstar yeah. He is. You're correct.
Most likely 3 team trade
Mpj strawther and 2031 pick for hunter bogi and a backup big
Nuggets need new GM new coach. Then 3 4 new players. I'm saying this for months... But hey like dnvr guys let's pretend we back, we sooo back 😭🤣🤦🥲😉🥲😉🥲😉
And Jokić and Jamal are so tight rn right? Hahahah Jokić killing Jamal legacy he so bad... Jokić must be run out of Denver ASAP if u want to win another one 😳🤣
Jaren Jackson is the one in Memphis. It’s been a fact for two seasons. This season it’s been a fortunate fact.
We gotta land a perimeter defender or defenders. We have no D.
Butler alone does a lot for the Warriors assuming everyone stays healthy or is healthy at the same time come play in season
Trades are tricky. If a player is hot why would a team trade him, or they would want a high price like peaks. You have to buy low and hope it will work for you like with AG. Its always a risk....
The Nuggets need defenders and three point shooters. So far, they have only one volume three points shooter and that is MPJ. Murray is not and he sucks at defense and sometimes wants to play iso while there are players better than him open to score. If they want to trade for defenders, they either trade their young guys for a 3-point shooter or a defender.
Vogt….😂come on man. MPJ is a spacer? Dude. How many times a game are we watching Mike miss wide open 3s, game after game. Spacing means nothing with MPJ ultimately.
Bogie easily would have better spacing & floor presence w Jok. Bogie is smart & has that dawg in him.
I’ve heard for years how great of a shooter MPJ is.
That fool puts up more bricks than Lionel Richie and the Commadors.
He’s a brick, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, house!
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum!
He’s mighty mighty when building a whole damn house.😂😂😂😂
Bad takes anyone? Come here.
@@joshuajam95 glaze takes anyone come to this dim light bulb!
@@joshuajam95 gee I wonder who’s burner this is 😂
Bro what? 40 percent three point shooters don’t grow on trees. Bad take man
we need hunter and bogi
Bench Christian, but not bench Michael, why not try that for "time being"... sheet coach.
Because mpj without jokic is a g lesugue player cant do anything
It is obvious they need to trade Jamal. Jokic will make anyone that good.
Not allowed this season due to signing rules 😊
Imagine a fox or maxey with jokic u see it in russ how good speed is with joker plus they can shoot. Jamal is good but also looks like an all star because of jokic and he was him in 2020 but thats 1 year before injury and everyrhing for 5 years he was in shape and hungry and scored now only dribble air out of the ball
No can do this season
Brothers, you are worse than these channels that make fun of us, even Tim Legler has lost his way. Denver no longer has the Jamal-Nikola game, Jamal is too selfish, he dribbles on the court for 12-15 seconds and then tries to get away, but mostly ends up with a turnover. If Jokic makes everyone on the field look better, Jamal does the opposite. You could have seen the attempt to assist Jokic in a couple of games where the ball didn't get anywhere near him, Jamal scratched his hair and let's move on. I would like to see the next two games to put Jamal on the bench to see how the team will function, because Jamal's 24 in the last 3 games are empty stats. MPJ is very bad, not only in these three games, but in general, i found the moment when he shoots a three-pointer and of course he missed, but how did he land holding his hand up, because after the miss he was the closest player of all on the court to Denver's hoop, and instead of making a few steps towards the defense, two NY players are already at the free throw line in Denver's half, while MPJ followed up his miss and remained buried in that spot. Gordon is not even 50 percent of what he was at the beginning of the season and when you add Jamal a very bad season, MPJ is completely not for the starting five in 60% of NBA teams and Gordon's poor form is a product of what we are seeing. I listened to that Ryan Blackburn after the game with Chicago where Jokic's defense is a problem for him, I think the problem is NBA basketball analysis, from people who have never run in their lives. I would very much like Denver to make one trade and release him, and that is to trade Jokic to one of the teams that are sure participants in the playoffs. That would be the best for everyone, for Denver they would get a bunch of assets, for Joker he would win at least one more ring and for all of us who support Jokic. If the Joker hadn't come to Denver, Denver would be like Utah.
I would like you to not return to our show
Awful take 😂
They are blind. Or so bad that they're purposely missing that. Because for them Jamal is BACK, SOOOO BACK BABY 🤣😭🤡
Jamal davi loptu a ne zna da doda lepo, kasni, dodaje kad su igrači već zatvoreni, nesiguran je u pasu. On toliko vremena uzima sa loptom da bi morao imati između 12 - 15 asistencija svaki mec.
@@ericwedum6323 We agree on one thing, since I unsubscribed last year at 0-2 against Minnesota and your report from the game. Why, a month ago I decided to give you another chance, but since Eric can't stand other people's criticism, what else are comments on YT for, I'm going to stop watching DNVR and unsubscribe again. Or as they would say in Serbia -Mirna Bačka- I love Jokic, whom I watched when he played for Mega Basket, not after winning the MVP award. I will support Denver as I support Kings while Divac and Stojakovic played there since 2000, we have Jovic in Miami and Topic in OKC and again I love that Nikola brought the first ring to Denver and made a career like Djokovic in tennis. When you don't agree with someone else's opinion, then you debate not push people away from your show.
The 27 trade after the season, IS THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT MOVE IN THE FRANCHISE HISTORY! IF THEY DON'T GET RID OF 27, MEDIOCRITY IS GUARANTEED!
Omg bro….. you people have these takes that are just so dumb I just can’t believe it.
27 for Jimmy Butler's One Year Contract?
@@ryanerickson5786 why are you talking?! You have no clue about the subject! If they don't trade Jabum, they should trade Nikola! His back hurts after carrying 27 for 8 years! Who's the biggest Jokić merchant ever 🤔
It's over I'm afraid bro. I think it's over for winning in Denver for a long time 🤷🥲
@@ljutko7 to many Jokić merchants on the hole franchise! Jabum is the biggest one, coach Malone seems to be one too. FREE NIKOLA
I don't the Nuggets should trade MPJ for anyone who isn't good 3&D.
Hunter is Hella good defensively
Bogdanovic always injured so idk
I'm not sure that any of you know enough about specific player contracts to be talking trades other than doing so just because every other channel is and you're having a little FOMO. So many other things a channel like this guys could focus on with the great group of players there in Denver but apparently no one has any imagination.
I understand sometimes urgent things happen, however can we stop checking our phones please. Unless it is health related or an emergency.
Lol y’all delusional if you think you’ll get hunter and bogie for mpj. not a chance
At least we try dreams
Mpj strawther and 2031 pick for mpj bogi and a backup big
Trade Murray, Zeke for Bogdan, Hunter,
The way Malone has handled Russ is causing unrest within the team. Russ should be coming of the bench full stop. If you can't understand why, maybe you shouldn't be commentating on bball ? Love your passion guys but sometimes you all can't see the tree from the forest.
Russell Westbrook is the most effective passer whenever Jokic completes a seal down low, russ is the only one who give him the ball down there, not even Murray can make that pass
@ no one is arguing that point. I like the Denver version of Russ.
Ultimately to maximise Westbrook’s impact he should be used an a high energy sixth man.
Boring!
Unlike MPJ, Bogdanović knows how to create points and he is much better in defense than MPJ! He knows how to dribble, assist and create points for himself, all that MPJ doesn't know!
@viralserbia 🧢