For beginners, the best tip anyone is going to give you is to start with a weapon you think is cool regardless of how hard or easy it is to learn. A hard to learn weapon that is fun for you to use will only help you enjoy the game more and spend more time with it than a easy weapon that feels boring or wrong to play with. A great guide overall and i think its def important for beginners to understand that they have to have fun with the game first before diving into the nuances of it, so go and play chargeblade or smack things around with a hammer if thats up your alley, you can always pivot to something else later.
yes and no, because the game is extremely overwhelming and overburdens with far too much info simultaneously with not enough of the right info! very easy to get immediately put off by it. picking a weapon you think is cool is great, but may also burn a new player completely at the starting line, so I'd advise they pick from a specific group at first
I somewhat agree to this. MHW is my first MH game and I pick CB because it looked cool and the moveset is cool. My advice is if you like the weapon, look up the tutorial and watch it well to determine is your likeness of the weapon overweight the difficulty of truly using it. In the end I learn CB pretty quick and the rest is implementing it against any monster, though there are instances where using CB is a bit of a pain (looking at you Kirin) and that made me learn other weapons, preferrably ranged now.
As a mh veteran, my advice for begginers is, fuck the quest, fuck story, fuck everything, 3 easy question, do you care about defense? Any weapon with a shield then. Larget to smallest, depending on how much you care about defense. Do you care about big beefy damage? The bigger the weapon the bigger the numbers. And finally do you care about speed? The smaller the weapons the faster, with dual blades being the fastest and great sword for the slowest, Long sword is the best (for solo) weapon. Strong, fast, and has viable defense options.
I didn’t learn perfect rush timing until after i beat fatalis. 😂 sword and shield is a sleeper weapon its easy to pick up but mastering it takes time as its all kinds of moves and ways to optimize your damage .
….. 😅I realize I made All element sns… but I forgot all combos and bread and butter combos after coming back and looking through my equipment pre saved slots… I think I forgot how to and but hunting horn came back naturally been away for 3 years.
Tbh as a new player i picked up the charge blade and i honestly don't find it too much of a headache. It's pretty simple to remember how to store energy and not overheat, i can get the cycle of charging up the gauges pretty easily, but i do struggle a bit as of now understanding how to effectively using guard points or how to reliably fit SAED without missing or getting knocked out of the windup
it might seem stupid, but charge blade has another mechanic outside of SAED which is called Savage axe (SA). Imo it’s a lot easier to get into the weapon with that instead of focusing on SAED since it doesn’t require big windows nor does it lock you into a 5second animation that if you miss, you’ve wasted the last 2min of your hunt. Plus once you’ve activated it, you can keep it for the entire hunt without recharging your shield (you should still do it, it gives 10% increased damage) by just recharging your phials before they hit 0.
@@kixakii436 Oh, well the best thing i could tell you then is to not use SAED unless the monster is tired out or on the ground till you understand monster patterns better.
I wouldn't say hammer is low commitment, you can't block and need to be in the monsters face for most of your attacks. Very hit and run play style to be safe
My first MH game and straight up using CB as my first weapon. When trying any other weapon my initial thought after learning the weapon is "ain't now way that's it, where's the extra bits?"
Bow being my second most used weapon, IG being the first (started in 4U), things to note: 1. Very stamina heavy, Constitution 3+ is highly reccomended, you should also time your volley becuase you can recover some stamina back before shooting (unless the Monster is down and its a big opening.) 2. Dash Juice is helpful, but I got up and cleared Fatalis without it. 3. If its base World, your best bread and butter is rapid fire shots, and having means to Paralyze, Sleep, and Poison the monsters when needed to. Especially Paralyze for more personal DPS. 4. If you have Iceborne, the Thousand Dragons Clutch Claw technique becomes your strongest burst damage. Especially if you got Piercing Pods for a more selfish DPS style. 5. In World (it was lost in Rise for a buff/healing circle) you have access to a KO attack in the caltrop drops from spamming B/O combo or aiming -> charging -> B/O. Its not fast but its there for multiplayer. 6. You are a ranged weapon, which means physical attacks will do more damage to you, while you take less Elemental Damage. This has been a thing in previous games back when we had separate armors for melee and ranged. So keep to your ideal range when you're shooting for maximum damage. 7. Don't use Dragon Piercer unless you've got a clean shot that can go from head to tail. It leaves you wide open for almost 5 seconds and if you wiff, you've wasted time.
@LightItUpDan Forgot to add this, the coating you put on also applies to both Dragon Piercer, and Thousand Dragons. I'll have to double check if TD also gets buffed by bow charge, I've been doing a WeaponLocke with a buddy of mine, where we if you cart you move to the next weapon (randomized via wheel). If we run out of weapons that's it. We won't hit the bow until 5 carts from now. So I won't be able to double check it for a while lol.
Charge blade is my #2 and I have mained every melee weapon (plus Bow) and I’m only commenting because I don’t want you to miss out on the fun there is to be had. Don’t let your preconception of a weapon rule it out because I finally learned sword and shield after thinking it was boring and it turns out it’s incredible.
I like using affinity sliding and airborne with the hammer, makes the weapon very hard to play because of map awareness to get the sliding and ledge jumping attacks, but does SO much damage/KO if you can master the stamina management/timing/positioning of charging and jumping off right when you see an opening
Monster Hunter just finally kind of clicked for me and Insect Glaive rlly stood out to me. Not sure if it’s the most practical for my first time ever getting into the game but it’s so fun plus I have a cat AND a big bug friend 🥰
Bow is hard as hell because it doesn't matter how high your defense is you will get one shotted by the hard monsters. Also you were using the bow wrong
@@LightItUpDanlet's be constructive here. The bow isnt a beginner weapon. You don't have s, you don't have speed/mobility. So when your telling people point and shoot sure you can. But the bow comes with a lot. Think of it as an overwatch hero. You need to know when you can pull off a dragon shot, need time to switch coatings line up a caltrop rain down. You need to have a better understanding of your environment because your going from a hack and slash game to a third person shooter. A slow third person shooter. Bows are great as support or off DPS, really they offer great way to build up elemental damage. Think of the bow as the hunting horn for range characters.
@@tylamcgilverson3923honestly as a bow main the best way to think of bow in world is a min maxed glass cannon. Set building for it is extremely tight with you being limited to a very small amount of armor for true critical element, and then you need stamina surge, constitution, bow charge +, WEX, crit boost, crit eye and element attack 6. Getting all of these is extremely hard, and there is zero comfort or survivability. But thankfully, unlike what you said, bow is extremely maneuverable and has tons of dodges, dash dancing is the optimal way to play bow as it keeps you at charge level 3. However it requires constant movement so for beginner players it’s easy to accidentally move into harms way rather than out of it. But bows biggest advantage is having literally the highest possible damage (aside from hbg). If you do it right you should be doing a helmbreaker’s worth of damage every other attack. However you have to constantly move, so getting hit is easy, you have no survivability so getting hit will 1 shot you likely, ans you have to manage your bow charge, stamina, phials, and are repositioning with every attack. Crazy potential but requires a heavy investment to get into. (Also a lot of this is about bow before fatalis. With fatalis raw bow becomes better than elemental, and you have space for things like health boost and even divine protection)
As a Charge Blade main, I'm always delighted to see new players pick up the weapon, but I wouldn’t recommend trying to figure it out on your own. There are just too many nuances you need to grasp to reach an intermediate level. Unfortunately, there aren't many comprehensive guides available, so it can be pretty challenging to learn CB by yourself. The first thing you need to know is your defense options, normal guard, guard points, side hop, roll, sliding slash. You need to know the timings and the followups of the monsters’ attacks to perform guard points and that’s already asking a lot from new players. Deciding when to roll and when to use guard points can be confusing, and most new players have no idea when they should run guard 1, guard 3, or guard 5. A general rule of thumb is to only guard when you want to maintain your position or when attacks can be countered with a SAED or AED, and never guard things that cause large knockbacks(unless you faint if you don’t guard). You can then decide which guard level is appropriate for the attacks you decide to guard. Side hops are useful for repositioning or extending your combo after guarding or attacking-an essential move in CB gameplay. Sliding slash is more about style points and is occasionally useful in specific situations, but it's typically used by advanced CB players so beginners shouldn't worry too much about this move. Next, you need to know how to charge your phials. What's the fastest sword combo to fill up 6 phials (with and without Focus Level 3)? How many charge points are needed to fill 3 or 6 phials, and how many points does each sword move give you? Knowing specific numbers makes your gameplay much more efficient. You would know exactly how far away from full-charge you are when you whiff or cancel out of a combo because of a monster's attack. I can go on for pages about phial management, counter position, combo extenders, and various other topics about CB, so the 50-page pdf CB guide meme is probably in some way true LOL. Unless you really like how this weapon plays and are willing to put in a lot of effort to do research and practice, or just don't mind being knocked around by the monster and whiffing half of your ults for 20 minutes, I do not recommend CB as a starter weapon. Even if you managed to reach the endgame, terrible CB matchups like Tempered Furious Rajang or Fatalis will totally f ur mind. Fatalis is already the hardest fight in the game, but if you use CB, it just becomes incredibly difficult. However, if you still insist on starting with CB after reading this, welcome to the CB gang!
Appreciate you taking the time to write this, but I state in the video I’ve made a comprehensive guide already 😅 This is a huge info dump on a beginner trying out CB for the first time
@@LightItUpDan I only wrote this to show how complex CB is, and it’s really not a beginner friendly weapon, there’s just so much more than learning the inputs. Also, the most beginner friendly playstyle- SAED spam does not work well in iceborne. As for the comprehensive guide part, I meant a comprehensive guide for intermediate level players. The endgame monsters for iceborne is quite painful for “okay” CB players, I had to do a lot of research, ask experienced CB players lots of questions, show them my gameplay, and test a lot of things out myself to finally understand what good players do well but I don’t do well.
@@ctholly1199cb isnt even half as complex as you make it out to be. Also cb is the most covered weapon in terms of guide due to its "difficulty". While cb is complex in terms of input i actually think that GS is the single most difficult weapon in the game as you will fail miserably if you dont make your high damage moves counter with barely any shortcuts or alternative. Cb can always play savage axe if you are not able to time your stuff. Sword mode deals at least okayish damage. AED is were the skill in CB lies to me. It has some cool properties. GP are not really a problem because you use only 1 90% of the time and have really big window to successfully use it. Also sword mode swaxe and Frostcraft longsword are both much tougher than cb. Especially FC LS as you need the timing for iai counters.
@@Corey91666 Before I reply to your statement, let me ask you a question. What do you mean by "difficult"? My original comment was talking about the "intermediate level" of CB, which means the player is able to kill most monsters in a reasonable amount of time, for example under 10 minutes(so that the endgame grind is not that bad). I tried Greatsword after I got bored of CB and it is pretty easy to reach the intermediate-level ngl. Just run frostcraft and punish the openings with one or two charge slashes, TCS when you do cc or get a knockdown. For some tougher monsters just watch some speed runs, some TCS openings are not that hard to pull off, it's just hard to come up with them yourself. As for CB, learning GP alone does not make you intermediate, if a player cannot charge up their phials efficiently, manage phials properly, know the defense options, and make the right choice in most situations, CB is going to do very bad against most monsters(15-20 minute hunts). It's worse when you try to learn from speedruns. Sure, you now know which moves can be GP-AEDed, but most new CB players just ignore how to play efficiently in sword mode. Your third paragraph is not wrong though. For high level gameplay, I agree with your statement. CB is mostly reaction gameplay, which is way easier than prediction gameplay(Greatsword).
@@ctholly1199 yeah i mean i guess for most weapons intermediate and higher level play requires skill and execution for all weapons. Me personally i didnt feel like phial Management was all too difficult. I get that there are moments to be very efficient. Best example for me is a 3 phial reload. But most of that comes naturally i would say. The most difficult part about MH is anything related to the monsters and the relation between the hunter and the monster in the context of the used weapon. You could potentially be a decent player but i feel you have spend your time almost exclusively with CB. Its definitely okay for a beginner to try the weapon. People learn stuff like tekken. The Controls of MH are fairly simple in comparism. But applying things is a whole different thing. Anyway im enjoying this discussion but i wonder why you specifically talk about phials so much. I played mostly swaxe which is actually pretty tough to apply (unless you abuse mantles and spam ZSD). My second most used weapon is CB though followed by a bunch of others like IG, LS, GL. To me the beauty and difficulty for CB really is the correct punishment. Not only in regards of hitting but also in regards of recovery. Getting a GP SAED is not difficult but was it the correct punish or did you get hit during animation recovery. This is actually to me the part of intermediate cb play. Using the right tools for the right opnenings.
I started the game and chose charge blade and I’m still going on with it! I’m at coral waste and I’ve been doing great! I just use my bread and butters but the only problem I’ve been having is that I don’t know how to do my normal discharge when I have my shield charged
I'm started with switch axe and gave it my best....pretty decent with it...but literally it's like my hands stop working when I pick up anything else...
That's completely normal. Your fingers probably felt like that the first time you used switch axe too. Every weapon is drastically different, it will feel like you're learning the game controls over again every time. The absolute best way to learn a new weapon is to just start a new save file and play through low and high rank. By your third weapon it starts to become a lot easier to switch weapons on command.
In the Gunlance section thank you for not mentioning Wyverns fire because it’s soooo situational on when to use it because if you use it instead of attacking you usually lose a lot of potential dps than if you were to just slaplance. Great video!
Long time GS/IG user here. I just started a new save on Iceborn for a lance play through, and I have to say that this is one of the most fun and engaging weapons I’ve used.
I have over 3000 hours in MHW iceborne as a Doot main. But I've mastered them all by now and can use each one highly effectively. A couple of tips for beginners, Lance and Gunlance will be highly effected by your sharpness. Something you don't consider much when just starting. However the Lance charging attack won't work properly under a certain sharpness threshold meaning very quickly in a hunt you'll lose out on a core function of the weapon. Also Gunlance shelling eats through sharpness as well, so in the early game you'll absolutely blow through sharpness quickly. Not saying you should shy away from from them as a beginner weapon just keep in mind they get better as you progress and unlock better gear. Also for new Hunting Horn users, Horn Maestro is a must have deco. And don't be a Corner Horner.
Great guide! Still most weapons are doable as first time if you like them enough, I started with CB on Rise, though I didn’t master it (Work in progress) with the guard points and everything until my second MH which is world
One small and kinda silly critique i have to mhw is having great sword as the "first" weapon on the list I've saw a lot of people dropping the gane because it felt super heavy/slow and punitive because they put one of the hardest weapons to start in a way that make it feel like it's the recommended option
As someone who picked up a Charge Blade first thing and ran with it for the rest of the game, I can confirm it is a VERY bad idea please do not do it. I feel that this is necessary advice for anyone like me who thought (and still thinks) that the Charge Blade is the coolest thing ever. Only just recently now after all these years am I finally starting to break free from the fear of learning new weapons that starting with the most complicated one gave me. If you decide you want to learn it anyway (hopefully after starting with something else) then my best advice would be to take it slow and learn how to swing it around first before worrying about all the complicated charging and stuff. I hope someone might find my two cents on the matter to be useful.
I mained CB and GS , Greatsword is much much much harder to clean the game with. By far. Chargeblade once u used to the moveset u can move around any ennemy cheesy and easy mode, + free block + free long range damage Greatsword is much much harder to play
I recently started a new game and had a hard time picking between Insect Glaive and Charge Blade. I ultimately ended up choosing Glaive since I wanted to use it for a long time (long before even thinking of CB), but man do I hate seeing Charge Blade users, it's so ridiculously cool. It makes me want to use the weapon so bad, but I told myself I'd beat fatalis in that new game before changing to another weapon (solo ofc). I also want to try Charge Blade in a new game, I know how it works now and all, but I'd rather play from the start so I can get used to it without getting thrown around, specially with timing the perfect guard and stuff. Hell even when first deciding between the 2 weapons I couldn't decide if I wanted to the flashy discharge for how cool it looks or savage axe for reliable damage.
I picked up SnS yesterday and have been having a blast. Positioning is so important and fun at the same time, with max evade extender SnS lets you get away with some crazy stuff.
Very informative video for beginners. Im so glad i started w cb as my first weapon with no idea how complicated it would be lmao. Now I had an easier time learning other weapons, especially lance and switch axe
SA is the weapon that I will spend time practicing to make my moves perfect, but when MH Wilds comes out, I think I will give time to practice also the heavy bow gun.
maybe 20 minutes ago i just destroyed raging brachy after days of attempts, watched this, found out a lot on the SnS, and fought it again, got my time down to 15 minutes!
@@sirgrizzlypfote6369 i havent even "finished" mhw yet, still have safi, kulve taroth, alatreon and fatalis on my to do list. Before i try any other weapons lol
so the gs is the easiest weapon to learn? or does the position in the video not matter? Im asking because its strange to see a list that more or less backwards from all others.
Isnt the double swords the easiest weapon? I mean its just hut and run, and even the sword and shield has some complexity, but tbh the only complex thing double swords has is the slide attack, all od this is my opinion
The dual blades are easy to use, but difficult to master, since they do the highest dps if you know how to use them, but the lowest if you don’t. They also require you to use high risk - high reward skills (f.e. dragonvein awakening) in order to maximize the damage output. To maximize the damage you also need to learn the moveset of the monsters, contrary to what people think. So, yes, easiest weapon to learn, but with a really high skill ceiling.
So many weapons... I just can't choose. I started with the Long Sword and enjoyed it quite a bit, but decided to try something new. So I picked up the Great Sword and that is a lot of fun. Love the tackle. But it turns out switching weapons right as I was about to enter High Rank wasn't such a good idea. Learning new moves and dealing with the jump in difficulty was a tough challenge. :) But I would like to try basically every other weapon in the game except maybe the lances. I just don't like turtle play style. Is it better to just experiment along the way? Maybe not when I am about to go up in difficulty. Or just focus on learning monsters for now and experiment when I get to the "end game"?
Definitely try the Lance weapons too, they'll surprise you! It's fine to experiment at any time, just go to the training area to do it instead of live hunts
Just my opinion but long sword is definitely a very easy weapon to pick up but hard to master I used it for the first time against alatreon as it was the only kulve weapon I had and I managed to first try it though I did get punished a lot as I tried to counter some attacks and got killed twice
Damn, man... Why so many people gotta' be shitty at you? This is a great video, with a very objective breakdown of what weapons to use for beginners. Great takes on everything I've seen so far. About half-way through and you javen't said anything I disagree with... Some of these people need to chill tf out, lol.
There's lots to do other than just the "final boss"! Events, Optionals, Raging Brachy, Alatreon, Kulve Taroth, Safi'jiva - hundreds of hours there if you want it
It's really fun just joining other people and fighting with them against all the different monsters and slowly getting better at your weapon of choice against various monsters.
@@LightItUpDan they can practice in the training zone. Even if they change their main later, learning at least 4-5 weapons is essential to clear arena quests
@@Onetime-ly9dh Most players aren't going to touch the arena quests at all, ever. The new player experience is to pick a weapon, do some of the main story hunts, and decide if they wanna play the game ever again based on that initial experience. If they do, most will play the campaign and that's it
@@LightItUpDan I think most players will try out 3-4 weapons in training zone to see which one works best for them, or just use longsword because longsword looks cool. Choice of first few weapons depends on the player's preference and the first sight of them.
For beginners, the best tip anyone is going to give you is to start with a weapon you think is cool regardless of how hard or easy it is to learn. A hard to learn weapon that is fun for you to use will only help you enjoy the game more and spend more time with it than a easy weapon that feels boring or wrong to play with.
A great guide overall and i think its def important for beginners to understand that they have to have fun with the game first before diving into the nuances of it, so go and play chargeblade or smack things around with a hammer if thats up your alley, you can always pivot to something else later.
yes and no, because the game is extremely overwhelming and overburdens with far too much info simultaneously with not enough of the right info! very easy to get immediately put off by it. picking a weapon you think is cool is great, but may also burn a new player completely at the starting line, so I'd advise they pick from a specific group at first
I somewhat agree to this. MHW is my first MH game and I pick CB because it looked cool and the moveset is cool. My advice is if you like the weapon, look up the tutorial and watch it well to determine is your likeness of the weapon overweight the difficulty of truly using it. In the end I learn CB pretty quick and the rest is implementing it against any monster, though there are instances where using CB is a bit of a pain (looking at you Kirin) and that made me learn other weapons, preferrably ranged now.
@@lw9194Totally agree, Kirin and Shara are a pain with CB 😂
@@jesusdavidburgosgarcia3055 Kirin: when your axe is a bit too long
Shara: when your axe is a bit too short
Absolutely agreed, my first weapons to clear the game are HH and GL.
I'd argue any weapon that does counters is intermediate at least, as it does require monster knowledge to get the timing right. Yes even LS.
Cap, fate has a stupid big window, and you don't need the counters to level the Guage, especially with the sheath stance.
To use all of their move set, yes, however LS doesn’t require you to do that off the bat to be very effective with it!
I can't do LS counter but I can beat Tigrex and Nargacuga anyway, so yeah it's not 100% necessary
Fade slash is stupid easy to land. The other counter is harder but it's kinda useless because the damage is bad
Cope lol
As a mh veteran, my advice for begginers is, fuck the quest, fuck story, fuck everything, 3 easy question, do you care about defense? Any weapon with a shield then. Larget to smallest, depending on how much you care about defense. Do you care about big beefy damage? The bigger the weapon the bigger the numbers. And finally do you care about speed? The smaller the weapons the faster, with dual blades being the fastest and great sword for the slowest, Long sword is the best (for solo) weapon. Strong, fast, and has viable defense options.
An interesting approach!
Just go unga bunga with hammer
I didn’t learn perfect rush timing until after i beat fatalis. 😂 sword and shield is a sleeper weapon its easy to pick up but mastering it takes time as its all kinds of moves and ways to optimize your damage .
Yeah PR makes it a whole new weapon honestly haha, it’s absolutely bonkers damage too, way too overtuned in World 😂
@@LightItUpDan not only that you can trip monsters and ko them. Ill sit under the legs and bascially do the infinite combo and it trips them sometimes
….. 😅I realize I made All element sns… but I forgot all combos and bread and butter combos after coming back and looking through my equipment pre saved slots…
I think I forgot how to and but hunting horn came back naturally been away for 3 years.
Tbh as a new player i picked up the charge blade and i honestly don't find it too much of a headache.
It's pretty simple to remember how to store energy and not overheat, i can get the cycle of charging up the gauges pretty easily, but i do struggle a bit as of now understanding how to effectively using guard points or how to reliably fit SAED without missing or getting knocked out of the windup
it might seem stupid, but charge blade has another mechanic outside of SAED which is called Savage axe (SA). Imo it’s a lot easier to get into the weapon with that instead of focusing on SAED since it doesn’t require big windows nor does it lock you into a 5second animation that if you miss, you’ve wasted the last 2min of your hunt. Plus once you’ve activated it, you can keep it for the entire hunt without recharging your shield (you should still do it, it gives 10% increased damage) by just recharging your phials before they hit 0.
@Lost3mber i do not have iceborne lol, and probably won't for a while. But i will get around to it eventually
@@kixakii436 Oh, well the best thing i could tell you then is to not use SAED unless the monster is tired out or on the ground till you understand monster patterns better.
I wouldn't say hammer is low commitment, you can't block and need to be in the monsters face for most of your attacks. Very hit and run play style to be safe
Low commitment meaning the swings are quick without any long recovery particularly, while also being very damaging
Was just abt to help by saying lol@@LightItUpDan
0:55 that transition was super smooth 👍🏽
Thanks for noticing!
My first MH game and straight up using CB as my first weapon. When trying any other weapon my initial thought after learning the weapon is "ain't now way that's it, where's the extra bits?"
Bow being my second most used weapon, IG being the first (started in 4U), things to note:
1. Very stamina heavy, Constitution 3+ is highly reccomended, you should also time your volley becuase you can recover some stamina back before shooting (unless the Monster is down and its a big opening.)
2. Dash Juice is helpful, but I got up and cleared Fatalis without it.
3. If its base World, your best bread and butter is rapid fire shots, and having means to Paralyze, Sleep, and Poison the monsters when needed to. Especially Paralyze for more personal DPS.
4. If you have Iceborne, the Thousand Dragons Clutch Claw technique becomes your strongest burst damage. Especially if you got Piercing Pods for a more selfish DPS style.
5. In World (it was lost in Rise for a buff/healing circle) you have access to a KO attack in the caltrop drops from spamming B/O combo or aiming -> charging -> B/O. Its not fast but its there for multiplayer.
6. You are a ranged weapon, which means physical attacks will do more damage to you, while you take less Elemental Damage. This has been a thing in previous games back when we had separate armors for melee and ranged. So keep to your ideal range when you're shooting for maximum damage.
7. Don't use Dragon Piercer unless you've got a clean shot that can go from head to tail. It leaves you wide open for almost 5 seconds and if you wiff, you've wasted time.
Great tips here! I’ve never played too much of Bow but definitely want to change that
@LightItUpDan
Forgot to add this, the coating you put on also applies to both Dragon Piercer, and Thousand Dragons.
I'll have to double check if TD also gets buffed by bow charge, I've been doing a WeaponLocke with a buddy of mine, where we if you cart you move to the next weapon (randomized via wheel). If we run out of weapons that's it. We won't hit the bow until 5 carts from now. So I won't be able to double check it for a while lol.
Dodgebolt in rose can give you a fast dragon piercer.
Im one of the lunatics who started with charge blade. My weapon usage statistic is 99% CB, .5% LBG .3% LBG .2% Bow. I dont know any other melee weapon
You’re missing out!
Charge blade is my #2 and I have mained every melee weapon (plus Bow) and I’m only commenting because I don’t want you to miss out on the fun there is to be had. Don’t let your preconception of a weapon rule it out because I finally learned sword and shield after thinking it was boring and it turns out it’s incredible.
I like using affinity sliding and airborne with the hammer, makes the weapon very hard to play because of map awareness to get the sliding and ledge jumping attacks, but does SO much damage/KO if you can master the stamina management/timing/positioning of charging and jumping off right when you see an opening
Yeah that’s SO much fun haha
Just wondering in yt and them... BANG! new Lightitupdan video. Great day :)
Ayyyy appreciate you mate, hope you enjoyed it!
0:53 THIS TRANSITION THO??
Monster Hunter just finally kind of clicked for me and Insect Glaive rlly stood out to me. Not sure if it’s the most practical for my first time ever getting into the game but it’s so fun plus I have a cat AND a big bug friend 🥰
Most important thing first and foremost is that you're having fun! Optimising and all that can come later down the line
Bow is hard as hell because it doesn't matter how high your defense is you will get one shotted by the hard monsters. Also you were using the bow wrong
Okay 🫡
@@LightItUpDanlet's be constructive here. The bow isnt a beginner weapon. You don't have s, you don't have speed/mobility.
So when your telling people point and shoot sure you can. But the bow comes with a lot. Think of it as an overwatch hero. You need to know when you can pull off a dragon shot, need time to switch coatings line up a caltrop rain down. You need to have a better understanding of your environment because your going from a hack and slash game to a third person shooter. A slow third person shooter. Bows are great as support or off DPS, really they offer great way to build up elemental damage. Think of the bow as the hunting horn for range characters.
@@tylamcgilverson3923 okay 🫡
@@tylamcgilverson3923honestly as a bow main the best way to think of bow in world is a min maxed glass cannon. Set building for it is extremely tight with you being limited to a very small amount of armor for true critical element, and then you need stamina surge, constitution, bow charge +, WEX, crit boost, crit eye and element attack 6. Getting all of these is extremely hard, and there is zero comfort or survivability. But thankfully, unlike what you said, bow is extremely maneuverable and has tons of dodges, dash dancing is the optimal way to play bow as it keeps you at charge level 3. However it requires constant movement so for beginner players it’s easy to accidentally move into harms way rather than out of it. But bows biggest advantage is having literally the highest possible damage (aside from hbg). If you do it right you should be doing a helmbreaker’s worth of damage every other attack. However you have to constantly move, so getting hit is easy, you have no survivability so getting hit will 1 shot you likely, ans you have to manage your bow charge, stamina, phials, and are repositioning with every attack. Crazy potential but requires a heavy investment to get into. (Also a lot of this is about bow before fatalis. With fatalis raw bow becomes better than elemental, and you have space for things like health boost and even divine protection)
As a Charge Blade main, I'm always delighted to see new players pick up the weapon, but I wouldn’t recommend trying to figure it out on your own. There are just too many nuances you need to grasp to reach an intermediate level. Unfortunately, there aren't many comprehensive guides available, so it can be pretty challenging to learn CB by yourself.
The first thing you need to know is your defense options, normal guard, guard points, side hop, roll, sliding slash. You need to know the timings and the followups of the monsters’ attacks to perform guard points and that’s already asking a lot from new players. Deciding when to roll and when to use guard points can be confusing, and most new players have no idea when they should run guard 1, guard 3, or guard 5. A general rule of thumb is to only guard when you want to maintain your position or when attacks can be countered with a SAED or AED, and never guard things that cause large knockbacks(unless you faint if you don’t guard). You can then decide which guard level is appropriate for the attacks you decide to guard. Side hops are useful for repositioning or extending your combo after guarding or attacking-an essential move in CB gameplay. Sliding slash is more about style points and is occasionally useful in specific situations, but it's typically used by advanced CB players so beginners shouldn't worry too much about this move.
Next, you need to know how to charge your phials. What's the fastest sword combo to fill up 6 phials (with and without Focus Level 3)? How many charge points are needed to fill 3 or 6 phials, and how many points does each sword move give you? Knowing specific numbers makes your gameplay much more efficient. You would know exactly how far away from full-charge you are when you whiff or cancel out of a combo because of a monster's attack.
I can go on for pages about phial management, counter position, combo extenders, and various other topics about CB, so the 50-page pdf CB guide meme is probably in some way true LOL. Unless you really like how this weapon plays and are willing to put in a lot of effort to do research and practice, or just don't mind being knocked around by the monster and whiffing half of your ults for 20 minutes, I do not recommend CB as a starter weapon. Even if you managed to reach the endgame, terrible CB matchups like Tempered Furious Rajang or Fatalis will totally f ur mind. Fatalis is already the hardest fight in the game, but if you use CB, it just becomes incredibly difficult. However, if you still insist on starting with CB after reading this, welcome to the CB gang!
Appreciate you taking the time to write this, but I state in the video I’ve made a comprehensive guide already 😅 This is a huge info dump on a beginner trying out CB for the first time
@@LightItUpDan I only wrote this to show how complex CB is, and it’s really not a beginner friendly weapon, there’s just so much more than learning the inputs. Also, the most beginner friendly playstyle- SAED spam does not work well in iceborne. As for the comprehensive guide part, I meant a comprehensive guide for intermediate level players. The endgame monsters for iceborne is quite painful for “okay” CB players, I had to do a lot of research, ask experienced CB players lots of questions, show them my gameplay, and test a lot of things out myself to finally understand what good players do well but I don’t do well.
@@ctholly1199cb isnt even half as complex as you make it out to be. Also cb is the most covered weapon in terms of guide due to its "difficulty".
While cb is complex in terms of input i actually think that GS is the single most difficult weapon in the game as you will fail miserably if you dont make your high damage moves counter with barely any shortcuts or alternative.
Cb can always play savage axe if you are not able to time your stuff. Sword mode deals at least okayish damage. AED is were the skill in CB lies to me. It has some cool properties.
GP are not really a problem because you use only 1 90% of the time and have really big window to successfully use it.
Also sword mode swaxe and Frostcraft longsword are both much tougher than cb. Especially FC LS as you need the timing for iai counters.
@@Corey91666 Before I reply to your statement, let me ask you a question. What do you mean by "difficult"? My original comment was talking about the "intermediate level" of CB, which means the player is able to kill most monsters in a reasonable amount of time, for example under 10 minutes(so that the endgame grind is not that bad).
I tried Greatsword after I got bored of CB and it is pretty easy to reach the intermediate-level ngl. Just run frostcraft and punish the openings with one or two charge slashes, TCS when you do cc or get a knockdown. For some tougher monsters just watch some speed runs, some TCS openings are not that hard to pull off, it's just hard to come up with them yourself.
As for CB, learning GP alone does not make you intermediate, if a player cannot charge up their phials efficiently, manage phials properly, know the defense options, and make the right choice in most situations, CB is going to do very bad against most monsters(15-20 minute hunts). It's worse when you try to learn from speedruns. Sure, you now know which moves can be GP-AEDed, but most new CB players just ignore how to play efficiently in sword mode. Your third paragraph is not wrong though.
For high level gameplay, I agree with your statement. CB is mostly reaction gameplay, which is way easier than prediction gameplay(Greatsword).
@@ctholly1199 yeah i mean i guess for most weapons intermediate and higher level play requires skill and execution for all weapons. Me personally i didnt feel like phial Management was all too difficult. I get that there are moments to be very efficient. Best example for me is a 3 phial reload. But most of that comes naturally i would say.
The most difficult part about MH is anything related to the monsters and the relation between the hunter and the monster in the context of the used weapon.
You could potentially be a decent player but i feel you have spend your time almost exclusively with CB.
Its definitely okay for a beginner to try the weapon. People learn stuff like tekken. The Controls of MH are fairly simple in comparism. But applying things is a whole different thing.
Anyway im enjoying this discussion but i wonder why you specifically talk about phials so much. I played mostly swaxe which is actually pretty tough to apply (unless you abuse mantles and spam ZSD). My second most used weapon is CB though followed by a bunch of others like IG, LS, GL.
To me the beauty and difficulty for CB really is the correct punishment. Not only in regards of hitting but also in regards of recovery. Getting a GP SAED is not difficult but was it the correct punish or did you get hit during animation recovery. This is actually to me the part of intermediate cb play. Using the right tools for the right opnenings.
So is no one going to talk about that clean transition 13:01
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I started the game and chose charge blade and I’m still going on with it! I’m at coral waste and I’ve been doing great! I just use my bread and butters but the only problem I’ve been having is that I don’t know how to do my normal discharge when I have my shield charged
That’s dope! I love using Savage Axe
I'm started with switch axe and gave it my best....pretty decent with it...but literally it's like my hands stop working when I pick up anything else...
Take any new weapon to the training area first, it helps SO much to get the core combos down there first before trying a live fight
That's completely normal. Your fingers probably felt like that the first time you used switch axe too. Every weapon is drastically different, it will feel like you're learning the game controls over again every time.
The absolute best way to learn a new weapon is to just start a new save file and play through low and high rank. By your third weapon it starts to become a lot easier to switch weapons on command.
In the Gunlance section thank you for not mentioning Wyverns fire because it’s soooo situational on when to use it because if you use it instead of attacking you usually lose a lot of potential dps than if you were to just slaplance. Great video!
SUPER situational, for sure! Appreciate you mate, thanks for enjoying it
Long time GS/IG user here. I just started a new save on Iceborn for a lance play through, and I have to say that this is one of the most fun and engaging weapons I’ve used.
Ayyy Lance is so sick!
0:54 WOW THAT WAS CLEAAAN
Nice to see that i started with the switch axe and fell in love with it right away lol
Oh nice!
I have over 3000 hours in MHW iceborne as a Doot main. But I've mastered them all by now and can use each one highly effectively.
A couple of tips for beginners, Lance and Gunlance will be highly effected by your sharpness. Something you don't consider much when just starting. However the Lance charging attack won't work properly under a certain sharpness threshold meaning very quickly in a hunt you'll lose out on a core function of the weapon. Also Gunlance shelling eats through sharpness as well, so in the early game you'll absolutely blow through sharpness quickly.
Not saying you should shy away from from them as a beginner weapon just keep in mind they get better as you progress and unlock better gear.
Also for new Hunting Horn users, Horn Maestro is a must have deco. And don't be a Corner Horner.
Damn corner horners!
Great guide! Still most weapons are doable as first time if you like them enough, I started with CB on Rise, though I didn’t master it (Work in progress) with the guard points and everything until my second MH which is world
I’m so glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, anyone can play anything, with some time in the training area and studying hunters notes, they’re all viable!
One small and kinda silly critique i have to mhw is having great sword as the "first" weapon on the list
I've saw a lot of people dropping the gane because it felt super heavy/slow and punitive because they put one of the hardest weapons to start in a way that make it feel like it's the recommended option
As someone who picked up a Charge Blade first thing and ran with it for the rest of the game,
I can confirm it is a VERY bad idea please do not do it.
I feel that this is necessary advice for anyone like me who thought (and still thinks) that the Charge Blade is the coolest thing ever.
Only just recently now after all these years am I finally starting to break free from the fear of learning new weapons that starting with the most complicated one gave me.
If you decide you want to learn it anyway (hopefully after starting with something else) then my best advice would be to take it slow and learn how to swing it around first before worrying about all the complicated charging and stuff.
I hope someone might find my two cents on the matter to be useful.
Well said, totally agree!
Same can be said with me picking Gunlance on Freedom Unite.....
I main CB and figured savage axe in HR, later, I figured guard points at NERGIGANTE
I mained CB and GS , Greatsword is much much much harder to clean the game with. By far.
Chargeblade once u used to the moveset u can move around any ennemy cheesy and easy mode, + free block + free long range damage
Greatsword is much much harder to play
I recently started a new game and had a hard time picking between Insect Glaive and Charge Blade. I ultimately ended up choosing Glaive since I wanted to use it for a long time (long before even thinking of CB), but man do I hate seeing Charge Blade users, it's so ridiculously cool. It makes me want to use the weapon so bad, but I told myself I'd beat fatalis in that new game before changing to another weapon (solo ofc).
I also want to try Charge Blade in a new game, I know how it works now and all, but I'd rather play from the start so I can get used to it without getting thrown around, specially with timing the perfect guard and stuff. Hell even when first deciding between the 2 weapons I couldn't decide if I wanted to the flashy discharge for how cool it looks or savage axe for reliable damage.
I picked up SnS yesterday and have been having a blast. Positioning is so important and fun at the same time, with max evade extender SnS lets you get away with some crazy stuff.
Such an awesome weapon! As I say in the video, I consider it to be the ultimate one in the game overall. So versatile and powerful!
Very informative video for beginners. Im so glad i started w cb as my first weapon with no idea how complicated it would be lmao. Now I had an easier time learning other weapons, especially lance and switch axe
Nooo lmao birth by fire haha! Appreciate you mate, thanks for enjoying the video
SA is the weapon that I will spend time practicing to make my moves perfect, but when MH Wilds comes out, I think I will give time to practice also the heavy bow gun.
Wilds SA is looking incredible
Just pick up charge blade, watch a few tutorial videos and go play with it in the training area and on expeditions and you’ll have it down in no time!
It’s really not a good choice for beginners lol
@@LightItUpDan it’s what I did lol
And I love the weapon. I have a hard time using anything else
@@tyleraman642 I'm on the same boat. Found every weapon somewhat boring, only Charge Blade hooked me from the start.
I just picked up the charge blade at the end of the dlc campaign and I really like it
Oh nice! Do you use Savage Axe or SAED more?
@@LightItUpDan I’m still learning savage axe mode so I use SAED more
lightitupdan on his grind definitely the next big monster hunter youtuber
Appreciate you
As a bow main “your superpower can be carting quicker than anybody else” I took that personally 😂
maybe 20 minutes ago i just destroyed raging brachy after days of attempts, watched this, found out a lot on the SnS, and fought it again, got my time down to 15 minutes!
Very nice! Check out the full Sword & Shield guide, I'm sure it'll be helpful
Try pierce hbg.. halfs the time
@@sirgrizzlypfote6369 i havent even "finished" mhw yet, still have safi, kulve taroth, alatreon and fatalis on my to do list. Before i try any other weapons lol
What armor are you wearing during your charge blade segment?
MR Kulve Taroth
I think the hbg is a tad complicated at the start but with right setup it's point and click adventure.
Yeah very true, same for LBG I reckon, but the mobility makes it smoother for pick up play
so the gs is the easiest weapon to learn? or does the position in the video not matter?
Im asking because its strange to see a list that more or less backwards from all others.
The weapons are listed according to the order they appear in the game, nothing to do with the difficulty rating given
Isnt the double swords the easiest weapon? I mean its just hut and run, and even the sword and shield has some complexity, but tbh the only complex thing double swords has is the slide attack, all od this is my opinion
The dual blades are easy to use, but difficult to master, since they do the highest dps if you know how to use them, but the lowest if you don’t. They also require you to use high risk - high reward skills (f.e. dragonvein awakening) in order to maximize the damage output.
To maximize the damage you also need to learn the moveset of the monsters, contrary to what people think.
So, yes, easiest weapon to learn, but with a really high skill ceiling.
Absolutely one of the easiest to pick up for beginners, yeah!
So many weapons... I just can't choose. I started with the Long Sword and enjoyed it quite a bit, but decided to try something new. So I picked up the Great Sword and that is a lot of fun. Love the tackle. But it turns out switching weapons right as I was about to enter High Rank wasn't such a good idea. Learning new moves and dealing with the jump in difficulty was a tough challenge. :)
But I would like to try basically every other weapon in the game except maybe the lances. I just don't like turtle play style. Is it better to just experiment along the way? Maybe not when I am about to go up in difficulty. Or just focus on learning monsters for now and experiment when I get to the "end game"?
Definitely try the Lance weapons too, they'll surprise you! It's fine to experiment at any time, just go to the training area to do it instead of live hunts
Just my opinion but long sword is definitely a very easy weapon to pick up but hard to master I used it for the first time against alatreon as it was the only kulve weapon I had and I managed to first try it though I did get punished a lot as I tried to counter some attacks and got killed twice
For sure yeah! Every weapon has a high skill ceiling, with LS having a particularly tall one
Damn, man... Why so many people gotta' be shitty at you? This is a great video, with a very objective breakdown of what weapons to use for beginners. Great takes on everything I've seen so far. About half-way through and you javen't said anything I disagree with... Some of these people need to chill tf out, lol.
It’s a vocal minority mate, always the same elitist, entitled type lol. Appreciate you bud, that’s really kind of you, glad you enjoyed it
What greatsword is that are you using in the video
I honestly find the switch axe pretty simple
How much have you played it though? You have to put yourself in the shoes of a beginner
Always love the greatsword , it's got "great" in its name for a reason
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I haven't play this game for the longest. Finished fatalis and that was it. Not sure if there was a dlc or continual of the game. 😅
There's lots to do other than just the "final boss"! Events, Optionals, Raging Brachy, Alatreon, Kulve Taroth, Safi'jiva - hundreds of hours there if you want it
It's really fun just joining other people and fighting with them against all the different monsters and slowly getting better at your weapon of choice against various monsters.
Did I miss the tier list in this tier list video?
I’m sure you can piece it together going off the commentary
i try most weapons but i always come back to s n s. the only weapon i don,t play is dual blades
Nice nice! DBs are super fun though, how come you don’t play them?
@@LightItUpDan not sure really. my wife used the DBs. so i never gave them a shot.
Im a hammer main and im planning to play SNS. I hope ill like it more than the hammer. Is SNS really that easy to master?
@@dyslexicbien not easy to master at all, no! Has a very high skill ceiling like many of the weapons. Easy to pick up and play with though
@@LightItUpDan im having trouble looking at the glow of PR while in battle with monsters. Ill try to pick up another weapon maybe.
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Just pick the weapon which the person like most.
Terrible advice for newcomers 😅
@@LightItUpDan they can practice in the training zone. Even if they change their main later, learning at least 4-5 weapons is essential to clear arena quests
@@Onetime-ly9dh Most players aren't going to touch the arena quests at all, ever. The new player experience is to pick a weapon, do some of the main story hunts, and decide if they wanna play the game ever again based on that initial experience. If they do, most will play the campaign and that's it
@@LightItUpDan I think most players will try out 3-4 weapons in training zone to see which one works best for them, or just use longsword because longsword looks cool.
Choice of first few weapons depends on the player's preference and the first sight of them.
Lmao ls is hard ? 😂 ok...
Did you watch the video before commenting?