Hi everyone! This one's late as HECK, but we're finally caught up. I was like, almost not going to do a video for her, but she's cute and deserves one, so 50 hours of theorycraft, writing, and editing later: here it is! I'd have loved to spend a bit more time with this one, but seeing as it's already late, figured I shouldn't get too lost in the sauce. Hope you enjoy!
thank you for the vid! I really miss one team comb nobody is talking about. Shorekeeper, Baizhi S6 with moonlith with Variation R5 and double ER 3 cost and Carlotta. Baizhi rotation time is 4 sec with ult every rotation and gives pretty good buffs. The dmg difference from Carlotta shoots are around 10% less than with Zhezhi, but the rotations are faster than Zhezhi. PLS give it a try and calculate it
I pulled her 2 weeks ago but i did not touch her yet, waiting patiently for the gremlin maff and vid breakdown, late does not matter when precision and awesome editing is present, GOD BLESS!
I do want to comment a bit on Carlotta S1. It gives crit against targets affected by the decontruction debuff but also lets her gain forte on said targets when using her skill. This shortens her rotation a good bit to the point of only needing Intro>Skillx2>forte into liberation combo.
The extra forte is quite a gamechanger ! But, I wanted to make the rotations generalized for S0 users... there's a lot more cooking that can be done with S1~
would this make lumis rotation with her a lot simpler, in terms of now 10 seconds being enough for carlotta to fully gain her forte and do all of her buffed attacks?
@@mchkenshin4886 Wait no why tho? with S1 and shorekeeper and crit rate 4 chost and mid rolls crit rate from substats you reach 100% crit rate unless u get perfect echos with crit rate substats then maybe you can change the crit rate 4 cost.
am I the only one who think that the extra forte gain is almost useless? bc i mean you can just do Heavy attack/charge before skill to fill up ur bar? or i'm just dumb? xd My rotation: Car's heavy/chage attack> skillx2 > support and sub dps stuff > car's intro> heavy> skillx2> forte>liberation. Also you can cancel the animation of her heavy with Skill
This guide was truly impressive I thought that Lumi was comepletly useless when it comes to Carlotta because of the 10 second buff but you proved me wrong and explained it in a way that even people without prior knowledge of this types of calculations could understand. Great Job :)
tbh probably Aznvasions II. while i do think that Maygi has more concise information, better editing, and easy to read charts, AZN has been much more thorough walk through of the characters with a much more robust rotation section. In fact they have a video going over all the rotations with every reasonably viable team and its been up for over a week already. I'm not saying this as a slight against Maygi or anything btw. i think the calculator she created is super helpful and these videos are great for anyone who cant handle the chaotic math in her streams or the raw info dump AZN gives and would prefer an easy to read(and accurate) chart to tell them what to think.
I've been waiting for this, I'm so happy you released it so fast knowing what else you've been doing, haha. Good luck with the new artifact sets, that's going to be a doozy to figure out haha.
Thank you the numbers as always :) One quick correction though on the forte explanation. The "final bow state" liberation buff you get from full forte doesn't go away by using the forte. The description says final bow state only goes away once the liberation ends, or if you swap during liberation. I've tried it myself, she gets a buff icon resembling an hourglass on full forte. You can use the forte and the buff still stays around forever. It only goes away after you use liberation fully.
Sorry if it wasn't clear, but I was referring to the forte meter when I was talking about it resetting... if the buff went away, that would make 0 sense!!
I had her rotation pretty close to this but this was good to see where some timings were definitely not as good as they could have been. Great guide as always! She's fun as heck to play with Changli though, really fun combo and probably my favorite for just smooth gameplay.
Yup yup ! You could always dash cancel it and get the buff actually - but in 2.0, you remain on the floor while doing so, making it extra convenient (it used to throw you in the air even when you instantly dodge)
talk about dash cancel, you can cancel the 3rd basic shotgun hit since its animation is longer than both 1st and 2nd hit, spamming only first 2 hits build up forte faster than full combo
@@Maygi i see, so that how it works! Seems my rotations are gonna be a bit smoother from now on. Keep cooking Maygi! It’s always a blast to see your precise calculations & rotations.
OMG I'M LATE, I'VE BEEN WAITING SINCE 2.0 LOL THANK YOU MAYGI ♥ Best WuWa theorycrafter by far and please remember to always work at your own pace! Your calculations AND video editing is so good lol really wish I had some of your editing skills. Thank youuuuuu
Hi @maygi, just one small observation. I've tried double glacio v/s glacio/ATK% combo & noticed that with carlotta BiS, glacio/ATK% is performing better than double glacio. I tested on the middle tower against crownless. The atk% and glacio% echo I interchanged, were both having just 15CD (no ATK, no ATK%, no skill bonus)
You make great hq videos. I was hoping for a comparison to other DPS as that’s the main reason I would/wouldn’t pull. Hopefully you add that in upcoming videos.
@@Maygi i use to only barely clear toa, but with this i have like 40+ seconds left and the rotation is very mobile friendly unless you experience lag. 🎉
Ty for the objective analysis about these teams it seems like Lumi and Changli as I expected would be pretty competitive when it comes to Zhezhi but I didn't have optimized rotation for this do you have some thoughts on what an S6 Lumi would increase the DPS? S0 is pretty impressive and she is still buyable from the shop if anyone wants her
im so glad you made a guide for her! she's so much fun and ive been having a blast figuring her out. thank you as always for your great insight.🙇♂💓 i redid the right side of my overdrive zone with carlotta - xiangli yao (dps) - baizhi and it was kind of fun actually. so im curious how xly compares to changli in terms of damage (my carlotta is s1 though)
Unfortunately Baizhi ice buff isn't automatic, you have to go pick it up. Its just too unreliable in practice and easily mess up your rotation if you need multiple dashes to get to it.
for some reason sanhua and mortefi are not mentioned in the video? in my opinion sanhua is extremely strong with carlotta and shorekeeper in team allowing her to do a rotation that takes exactly as long as the ult cooldown resulting in a crapton of damage . Can clear the right tower of adversity in like 45 seconds with that comp. Also mortefi is another great option because of his forte that gives liberation damage.
11:00 isn't this thing with lumi easy to mess up? for example, if you have to do one dodge you are screwed, right ? maybe go to carlota before lumi's lasers is a easier way to not mess up (idk if the cd permits this though)
If you have to dodge, just switch to Carlotta a bit early~ I ran into a few issues with this where I would instinctively dodge and fill up Concerto too soon, so it's good practice to really understand how far you need to be away from the boss to not get into that situation
@@Maygi I thought about that case because of my hard experience trying to learn how to use the double intro camelia rotation ...it is easier than this to do it correctly but I messed up a lot of times. So I think I'll try to go into carlota early. I'll need to practice it because I got too comfortable with taoqi after clearing fallacy hologram (took me hours, but it was fun) I was using verina because of the double intro in taoqi to get her concerto faster (I chose verina because with double intro in taoqi I would miss the shorekeeper intro) until I realize that fallacy attacks so much that I could get the missing concerto from dodging lmao. srry for the yapp that was not that important. thank you for the guide and the tips, I'll practice carlota + lumi's rotation
Now you need to change the tierlist from all sites with the new Spectro rover and the s6 Havoc Rover with the next update coming in with the last sequence. Maybe spectro rover isnt at the bottom anymore? Rover is still the most used character across the board of all the players and if someone told them their Rover isnt at the bottom of the tierlist as spectro or if havoc s6 is up there with encore s0 maybe that video will blow up... I think spectro rover s6 with the new frazzle buff is now tier 1 in dps tierlist and havoc rover s6 is now tier 0.5 acording to Prydwen tierlist now, before spectro was t3 and havoc s3 tier 1.
OK Maygi, i love your vids and the work you put in, but there are just SO many ads on this vid. Idk if that's YT but it really ruined my ability to watch it and not get supremely annoyed by like halfway through 😊
It's due to a simple thing her entire resonance liberation damage is converted to resonance skill damage so basically she does no Resonance liberation damage at all
Why do you think that? Sanhua's personal damage isn't that great, and she provides no buffs (at S0) you're much better off using any other 5 star dps as a temmate, if you don't want to use Lumi or Taochi.
@@Google_Censored_Commenter I have s3. I saw many showcases testing out carllotta ,sanhua . Due to her very low field time, this team performs better than other teams.
@@Google_Censored_Commenterun no that's wrong lmao , sanhua plays extremely well with carlotta and shorekeeper due to her rotations being only 3 seconds long at max , you end up doing a lot more damage because of short rotations.
@@woKenVFX Why spend 3 seconds on her if you can spend 0. You'll do more damage that way too. Or, as I said, play a 5 star and just spam their buttons as fast as Sanhua, and swap back. Since you don't care about buffs.
Hi everyone! This one's late as HECK, but we're finally caught up. I was like, almost not going to do a video for her, but she's cute and deserves one, so 50 hours of theorycraft, writing, and editing later: here it is! I'd have loved to spend a bit more time with this one, but seeing as it's already late, figured I shouldn't get too lost in the sauce.
Hope you enjoy!
Thx Maygi !
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!❤
thank you for the vid! I really miss one team comb nobody is talking about. Shorekeeper, Baizhi S6 with moonlith with Variation R5 and double ER 3 cost and Carlotta. Baizhi rotation time is 4 sec with ult every rotation and gives pretty good buffs. The dmg difference from Carlotta shoots are around 10% less than with Zhezhi, but the rotations are faster than Zhezhi. PLS give it a try and calculate it
For someone who doesn't have early access to these characters, you put in the work for us. Thanks Magyi
I pulled her 2 weeks ago but i did not touch her yet, waiting patiently for the gremlin maff and vid breakdown, late does not matter when precision and awesome editing is present, GOD BLESS!
"Small car, lotta damage" Maygi so peak
It just so.. peak
say that again...
@@vtrtg102 AGAIN
She's a qualified dad joker
This is certainly Smol Wooly, Big Adventure energy.
The entire WuWa community is relying on Maygi TC. I've seen people melt down, because Maygi took some time of.
Can confirm. I was melted before I found this video.
I was waiting and praying for our Savior having Faith She will return
If people are melting down because a TC didn't upload a video, they need to take some time for introspection.
@@Osprey1994Take a joke. It's called a hyperbole.
@@Elouxunfortunately, these days its asking for too much.
Rather they find a reason to be negative about something
Saw pink haired math fairy guide, clicked.
So real. I saw the notification and yelled a little.
I do want to comment a bit on Carlotta S1. It gives crit against targets affected by the decontruction debuff but also lets her gain forte on said targets when using her skill. This shortens her rotation a good bit to the point of only needing Intro>Skillx2>forte into liberation combo.
The extra forte is quite a gamechanger ! But, I wanted to make the rotations generalized for S0 users... there's a lot more cooking that can be done with S1~
would this make lumis rotation with her a lot simpler, in terms of now 10 seconds being enough for carlotta to fully gain her forte and do all of her buffed attacks?
S1 also allows using crit dmg 4 cost if you have shorekeeper, further boosting the dmg
@@mchkenshin4886 Wait no why tho? with S1 and shorekeeper and crit rate 4 chost and mid rolls crit rate from substats you reach 100% crit rate unless u get perfect echos with crit rate substats then maybe you can change the crit rate 4 cost.
am I the only one who think that the extra forte gain is almost useless? bc i mean you can just do Heavy attack/charge before skill to fill up ur bar? or i'm just dumb? xd
My rotation: Car's heavy/chage attack> skillx2 > support and sub dps stuff > car's intro> heavy> skillx2> forte>liberation.
Also you can cancel the animation of her heavy with Skill
Lumi's cake is seriously underrated. It's god tier for sure.
Since she is her 🍑 underrated? 💀
biggest rat with the biggest gyatt
the amount of editing you put in your videos is remarkable thanks for the guide! :)
NEW MAYGI UPLOAD
LETS FUCKING GO
This guide was truly impressive I thought that Lumi was comepletly useless when it comes to Carlotta because of the 10 second buff but you proved me wrong and explained it in a way that even people without prior knowledge of this types of calculations could understand. Great Job :)
ANDDD best analysis wuwa youtuber award goes toooooo
tbh probably Aznvasions II. while i do think that Maygi has more concise information, better editing, and easy to read charts, AZN has been much more thorough walk through of the characters with a much more robust rotation section. In fact they have a video going over all the rotations with every reasonably viable team and its been up for over a week already. I'm not saying this as a slight against Maygi or anything btw. i think the calculator she created is super helpful and these videos are great for anyone who cant handle the chaotic math in her streams or the raw info dump AZN gives and would prefer an easy to read(and accurate) chart to tell them what to think.
I've been waiting for this, I'm so happy you released it so fast knowing what else you've been doing, haha. Good luck with the new artifact sets, that's going to be a doozy to figure out haha.
This guide is incredible! Especially the rotation part which help me a lot!
Liked in the first second just because of that pun.
Would like it anyway because it's a Maygi's guide, but that pun made me do it faster
Did not know Liberation reset the Forte Heavy Attack cooldown. This is why you're the GOAT and always worth watching even late. Thank you!
thanks for your contribution maygi.
always appreciate it.
that intro, I understood that reference 🤣
very informative as always. thanks maygi!
YAY IM SO GLAD SOMEONE REMEMBERS
@Maygi as a potato enjoyer how can I not? 🤣
Thank you the numbers as always :)
One quick correction though on the forte explanation. The "final bow state" liberation buff you get from full forte doesn't go away by using the forte. The description says final bow state only goes away once the liberation ends, or if you swap during liberation.
I've tried it myself, she gets a buff icon resembling an hourglass on full forte. You can use the forte and the buff still stays around forever. It only goes away after you use liberation fully.
Sorry if it wasn't clear, but I was referring to the forte meter when I was talking about it resetting... if the buff went away, that would make 0 sense!!
Superb guide as usual! Ty 4 yr amazing content!
lets go I was waiting for this ... thank you as always math fairy
It's never too late for a quality guide! Thank you, Maygi.
Maygi can post guides at the end of the patch, I won't make a build until then.
same 😂
I had her rotation pretty close to this but this was good to see where some timings were definitely not as good as they could have been. Great guide as always!
She's fun as heck to play with Changli though, really fun combo and probably my favorite for just smooth gameplay.
I am so glad this video exists. My brain was going to explode trying to read her kit. Thank you for explainingher kit and also the optimized rotations
ive been waiting for this guide thank you!
Finally I was waiting for it! Ty Maygi❤
The videos are so well edited and explained! Thanks Maygi
YOU CAN DASH CANCEL HERON & STILL GET THE BUFF? WHAT- btw excellent guide as always Maygi 🔥
Yeah this is a change made in 2.0 i beleive
Yup yup ! You could always dash cancel it and get the buff actually - but in 2.0, you remain on the floor while doing so, making it extra convenient (it used to throw you in the air even when you instantly dodge)
talk about dash cancel, you can cancel the 3rd basic shotgun hit since its animation is longer than both 1st and 2nd hit, spamming only first 2 hits build up forte faster than full combo
@@Maygi i see, so that how it works! Seems my rotations are gonna be a bit smoother from now on. Keep cooking Maygi! It’s always a blast to see your precise calculations & rotations.
@@Maygi im a bit confused with heron cancel, it does say that it needs to hit the mobs for it to have the buff the last time i check.
Thanks for making the guide, watching it gave me luck and I got her signature weapon :) time to get those 30 stars in tower
Everyone used to fight over sanhua (and to some extent they still do) but now everyone’s fighting over zhezhi
sanhua is still extremely good with carlotta that's why i skipped zhezhi
Finallyyy. Thank you so much!
Nice, I have been waiting for this one
I've been waiting for this 😭
OMG I'M LATE, I'VE BEEN WAITING SINCE 2.0 LOL THANK YOU MAYGI ♥ Best WuWa theorycrafter by far and please remember to always work at your own pace! Your calculations AND video editing is so good lol really wish I had some of your editing skills. Thank youuuuuu
Finally! The numbers are here!
I like the editing this video, that's shot sound are so good make carlota is my main now.
Finally a Maygi breakdown. Thanks for the breakdown!
You made me reconsider her S3 😂 that's a lot of total dps bump
The goat is back
I love these deep dives. Thanks, Maygi!
Was waiting for this!! ❤ Thanks!!
Video exceeded my expectations.
You do the best guides! Thank you so much :D
I would love to deep dive Carlotta
LETS GOO! THE FABLED CARLOTTA GUIDE
I need to memorize the Lumi rotation with her but I get the reason why the rotation looks like that is because Lumi outro is only 10 seconds.
Thank you Maygi, you're the only one I trust!
Thank you 😄❄️🧊
Hi @maygi, just one small observation.
I've tried double glacio v/s glacio/ATK% combo & noticed that with carlotta BiS, glacio/ATK% is performing better than double glacio.
I tested on the middle tower against crownless. The atk% and glacio% echo I interchanged, were both having just 15CD (no ATK, no ATK%, no skill bonus)
Your guides are the best!
It's finally here!
finally !! i've waited so long for this xD
Thank you very much, Ms. Maygi [Bows under blanket]
better late than never!
i dont bother learning rotations or looking at charts and just wing it until maygi's stuff is out. only tc i need really
peak guide
I loved when Maygi Lottaed all over the screen.
thank you so much, just in time
that changli rotation make my brain hurt, no way i can do that consistently.
Thanks Maygi!
whaaattt she actually make carlotta guide
I'm interested in the math u gained a sub. Let's go ☺️
Praise be the math!
Thank you!
You make great hq videos. I was hoping for a comparison to other DPS as that’s the main reason I would/wouldn’t pull. Hopefully you add that in upcoming videos.
Crazy good editing and great vid.
I finally managed to do quickswap on mobile with that rotation, thank you so much. 🙇🙇
holy mobile gigachad
@@Maygi i use to only barely clear toa, but with this i have like 40+ seconds left and the rotation is very mobile friendly unless you experience lag. 🎉
Finally I can build my Charlotta
A: Smiles cannot be heard...
7:33 : Just hold my beer for a sec!
The new STRONGEST CC!
You dropped this 👑
Understandable Little sensei o7
Oh no that one asian dude gonna EOS you just becuz you said Changli team with carlotta " she deal nooo damage" 🤣🤣🤣
Did you know her sentry construct cooldown resets when u get the enhanced version for it?
I tried to make this work, but unfortunately this messes up my rotation. I need some sweats to sweat this out and make use of this cd reset.
Ty for the objective analysis about these teams it seems like Lumi and Changli as I expected would be pretty competitive when it comes to Zhezhi but I didn't have optimized rotation for this do you have some thoughts on what an S6 Lumi would increase the DPS? S0 is pretty impressive and she is still buyable from the shop if anyone wants her
With Lumi S6 and putting her on one of the limited broadblades, the DPS goes up to around 60K (just shy of Zhezhi), which is actually... quite insane?
im so glad you made a guide for her! she's so much fun and ive been having a blast figuring her out. thank you as always for your great insight.🙇♂💓
i redid the right side of my overdrive zone with carlotta - xiangli yao (dps) - baizhi and it was kind of fun actually. so im curious how xly compares to changli in terms of damage (my carlotta is s1 though)
after 4k hours of poe2 she's bak
Her C6 gives her almost 200% damage per second gain....
Saw new pink math gremlin guide, clicked.
Insane work
Great guide as always but I wish you covered Baizhi as a support for the team considering her galio bonus buff for the team
Unfortunately Baizhi ice buff isn't automatic, you have to go pick it up. Its just too unreliable in practice and easily mess up your rotation if you need multiple dashes to get to it.
for some reason sanhua and mortefi are not mentioned in the video? in my opinion sanhua is extremely strong with carlotta and shorekeeper in team allowing her to do a rotation that takes exactly as long as the ult cooldown resulting in a crapton of damage . Can clear the right tower of adversity in like 45 seconds with that comp. Also mortefi is another great option because of his forte that gives liberation damage.
That’s right. This team is super strong and fast. I clear in 30s with S2R1
problem with mortefi is her resonance liberation does skill resonance damage
God of maths ❤
I must be doing something wrong. My energy regen requirements for Zhezhi feel much higher.
It depends on what you run in your team! The 2.3% was specifically for Zhezhi/SK; if running with, say, Taoqi/Verina, then it'd be 21.5%!
11:00 isn't this thing with lumi easy to mess up? for example, if you have to do one dodge you are screwed, right ? maybe go to carlota before lumi's lasers is a easier way to not mess up (idk if the cd permits this though)
If you have to dodge, just switch to Carlotta a bit early~ I ran into a few issues with this where I would instinctively dodge and fill up Concerto too soon, so it's good practice to really understand how far you need to be away from the boss to not get into that situation
@@Maygi I thought about that case because of my hard experience trying to learn how to use the double intro camelia rotation ...it is easier than this to do it correctly but I messed up a lot of times. So I think I'll try to go into carlota early. I'll need to practice it because I got too comfortable with taoqi after clearing fallacy hologram (took me hours, but it was fun) I was using verina because of the double intro in taoqi to get her concerto faster (I chose verina because with double intro in taoqi I would miss the shorekeeper intro) until I realize that fallacy attacks so much that I could get the missing concerto from dodging lmao.
srry for the yapp that was not that important. thank you for the guide and the tips, I'll practice carlota + lumi's rotation
Now you need to change the tierlist from all sites with the new Spectro rover and the s6 Havoc Rover with the next update coming in with the last sequence. Maybe spectro rover isnt at the bottom anymore? Rover is still the most used character across the board of all the players and if someone told them their Rover isnt at the bottom of the tierlist as spectro or if havoc s6 is up there with encore s0 maybe that video will blow up... I think spectro rover s6 with the new frazzle buff is now tier 1 in dps tierlist and havoc rover s6 is now tier 0.5 acording to Prydwen tierlist now, before spectro was t3 and havoc s3 tier 1.
Amazing, ty!
Romance in Farewell (the new 4 star weapon) not working with deconstruction HAS to be a bug. It seems tailor made for her. wtf?
Got her Wep
Failed 50/50
Waiting for Imperator Resonator
Chixia #1
the music is bit loud to hear your voice
What about sanhua though??
Would love to know how an s6 baizhi with shorekeeper's weapon stacks up in a team with lumi and carlotta!
Nice video as always, keep it up! Which do you think have more value Charlota S1 or jinshi S1 ?
That was a pretty weird Changli rotation.......... I'm using verina for this toA since it has a buff of coordinated atks maybe that's why
The goat 🐐
Is pulling zhezhi better or pulling sig weapon better for DPS increase
weapon
Weapon, but keep in mind Zhezhi makes her rotations much easier and is also good for Jinhsi
WOW thx for this Guide! I wonder is Your Lumi S0 in this showcase?
Yep yep ! She is S0 :3
Me with yinlin and Carlotta.... I feel alone
Maygi cooked
OK Maygi, i love your vids and the work you put in, but there are just SO many ads on this vid. Idk if that's YT but it really ruined my ability to watch it and not get supremely annoyed by like halfway through 😊
How would a Yangyang S6 compare to Lumi S0? Assuming both use the standard weapon.
Maygi what do you think the stats would look like with S6 sanhua. Mainly due to her fast rotation and the slight buff with her s6
Could you mind explaining why liberation substat is at 0 % priority
It's due to a simple thing her entire resonance liberation damage is converted to resonance skill damage so basically she does no Resonance liberation damage at all
What about sanhua. Even though she's not synergetic with carlotta. Carlotta and sanhua team damage would be higher than these f2p teams?
Why do you think that? Sanhua's personal damage isn't that great, and she provides no buffs (at S0)
you're much better off using any other 5 star dps as a temmate, if you don't want to use Lumi or Taochi.
@@Google_Censored_Commenter I have s3. I saw many showcases testing out carllotta ,sanhua . Due to her very low field time, this team performs better than other teams.
@@AgentUnknown-y4s I don't believe you. But you do you.
@@Google_Censored_Commenterun no that's wrong lmao , sanhua plays extremely well with carlotta and shorekeeper due to her rotations being only 3 seconds long at max , you end up doing a lot more damage because of short rotations.
@@woKenVFX Why spend 3 seconds on her if you can spend 0. You'll do more damage that way too. Or, as I said, play a 5 star and just spam their buttons as fast as Sanhua, and swap back. Since you don't care about buffs.