Library of Errors | Contested Bones: "Lucy" (Australopithecus afarensis)

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2022
  • Here we look at pseudoscience books, typically Young Earth Creationism Texts, and we examine them for robusticity and accuracy. It ALWAYS goes well.
    Today we appreciate one of the more dishonest chapters of Contested bones, wherein every aspect of Australopithecus afarensis is obfuscated, misconstrued or mangled!
    Intro: The Mind Electric by Miracle Musical
    www.hawaiipartii.com/
    Outro: Point Pleasant by Brock Berrigan
    www.brockberrigan.com/
    LOE
    pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15066...
    cpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.d...
    www.sciencedirect.com/science...
    www.nature.com/articles/35006045
    www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/...
    anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wil...
    www.science.org/doi/full/10.1...
    royalsocietypublishing.org/do...
    www.nature.com/articles/s4158...
    www.researchgate.net/figure/B...
    pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9331457/
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 339

  • @wodthehunter8145
    @wodthehunter8145 Рік тому +74

    I'm not an anthropologist, I went into medicine, but it makes me feel smart when she's like , "We know because all mammals have bilateral symmetry, most animals except echinoderms of course." "Of course," I reply (an echinoderm is a starfish). So here's to my overeducated, gentle, and very modern apes.

    • @juiceoverflow
      @juiceoverflow Рік тому

      I'm undereducated and proper violent mate I'm a caveman bloke I stab unsavvy chavs in London on a proper daily basis ye

    • @Limepopsicle07
      @Limepopsicle07 9 місяців тому +2

      This!! I’m going to go into paleoanthropology/biological anthropology when I get into college, but hearing little things I understand always makes me feel like a genius.

  • @alisaurus4224
    @alisaurus4224 Рік тому +181

    Erika is now such a hardened professional that she can read a sentence containing “paleo-experts” without visibly cringing

    • @hypervious8878
      @hypervious8878 Рік тому +39

      Every time someone says "paleo-experts" out loud, an angel lights a cigarette.

    • @kinglyzard
      @kinglyzard Рік тому +3

      @@hypervious8878
      😆 🤣

    • @mjjoe76
      @mjjoe76 Рік тому +6

      @@hypervious8878 No doubt the first time it was uttered was captured by the album cover for Van Halen’s 1984.

    • @leeshackelford7517
      @leeshackelford7517 Рік тому

      Hahaha..."not cringe"

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl Рік тому

      @@mjjoe76 I'm proud of you for knowing that reference! 👏🏾👏👏🏽👏🏼👏🏿👏🏼👏🏾👏🏻👏🏿👏🏽👏🏿👏🏼👏👏🏾👏🏾👏👏🏽👏🏼👏🏿👏🏼👏🏾
      Or, maybe I'm just glad that I'm not the only one that knows the reference, LOL!

  • @vinx.9099
    @vinx.9099 Рік тому +57

    wait. Australopithecus afarensis literally is the crocoduck they've been asking for: parts of one animal in one place, like the human knee, with parts of another animal in another place, like head head of an ape. it's the mash up of traits they've been asking for and it's still not good enough lol.
    of course this is no real surprize. they cam up with their conclusion and then started looking at evidence. but the blatant lack of care is hilarious.

  • @2Cerealbox
    @2Cerealbox Рік тому +24

    Oh sure, but when *I* show my guests my shelf of skulls, I'm considered creepy.

    • @budd2nd
      @budd2nd Рік тому +2

      😂 lol

    • @JosephKano
      @JosephKano Рік тому +8

      Did you boil them to remove all the remaining flesh? That was my error...

    • @tomk1974
      @tomk1974 Рік тому +9

      "Officer, they were extinct when I met them! I swear!"

    • @michellerenner6880
      @michellerenner6880 16 днів тому

      Just don’t refer to them as passed family members.

  • @claytonstein127
    @claytonstein127 Рік тому +49

    the intro is such a goddamn banger i never skip it

    • @leeshackelford7517
      @leeshackelford7517 Рік тому +2

      So true....
      Sadly, there are some fans of hers with the attention span of nil......on a different video, someone griped about the length...and asked her to shorten the intro

    • @emppulina
      @emppulina Рік тому +2

      One can always jump over it. That's what I do, if I am in a hurry. I also skipp over a lot of produce advertisements (e.g. sponsorship infos) by other UA-camrs. It doesn't require huge amount of technical understanding. It still is one of the best intros I have met in UA-cam.

    • @leeshackelford7517
      @leeshackelford7517 Рік тому +5

      @@emppulina yep...
      Hope she keeps it as is...

    • @gayofreckoning6302
      @gayofreckoning6302 Рік тому +7

      I use her videos to fall asleep to a lot because she strikes that wonderful place of interesting enough that my mind shuts up but also chill enough that I can drift off.
      Anyway, I always watch the intro first. It's a banger.

    • @leeshackelford7517
      @leeshackelford7517 Рік тому +1

      @@gayofreckoning6302 lol....Gutsick Gibbon as a soothing lullaby
      Hahahaha sweet

  • @Boneworm852
    @Boneworm852 Рік тому +32

    YECs need two complete fossils found right next to each other, with ancient name tags saying "I'm Species A" and "I'm Species A's Kid and I'm Species B"

    • @ethelredhardrede1838
      @ethelredhardrede1838 Рік тому

      But but that would proof that paleo experts were engaged in fraud, again. No really what else could it mean. Or it could be a False Flag from YEC's. They definitely have more fraud. Human evolution, one fraud.
      YEC's rather a lot as they call errors frauds, the Flood Real and Genesis real and the word of a god. Since Genesis is clearly a collection of silly stories, well it contains the miracle ingredient Frauduline.

  • @velvetmagnetta3074
    @velvetmagnetta3074 Рік тому +58

    Look at all those props! Bones everywhere! Gibbon loves us ❤️

  • @fairy_gvts
    @fairy_gvts Рік тому +110

    Just wanna say I really appreciate these long form videos. They're really informative as well as entertaining. I love listening while doing art. I can't say I always pick up/remember the details of fossils and human evolution, but I now know the big story, and that's much more than I knew previously. Thank you for the wonderful content ❤️❤️

    • @ChristopherSadlowski
      @ChristopherSadlowski Рік тому +5

      It just goes to show how much work has gone into figuring out what is a human. It's weird; you'd think we'd know what makes us us, because we ARE us every day, but listening to Erika reminds me that even something like a hand, or a foot, or even fragments of bones, can teach us so much. When we look at the other apes there's so much similarity between them and humans, yet something that might not even really cross our mind might make all the difference. Just a few small changes here and there and suddenly you're a totally different species. Life is weird.

    • @aethertoast4320
      @aethertoast4320 Рік тому +2

      I often listen while playing video games. Funnily enough listening through this I have been digging for fossils in Pokémon Brilliant Diamond. Maybe I am doing that because I am listening to this. Either way been getting lucky, found my first piece of Old Amber.

    • @georgiemelrose9188
      @georgiemelrose9188 7 місяців тому

      Same!!

  • @Gaston-Melchiori
    @Gaston-Melchiori Рік тому +48

    The amount of patience to read this stuff and keep your marbles in order... You are amazing.

    • @Vhlathanosh
      @Vhlathanosh Рік тому +4

      Imagine having to debunk each and every assertion made by these boneheads. It's exhausting.

  • @danm6499
    @danm6499 Рік тому +13

    I suspect that the inclusion of the Lucy naming story is a dog whistle to their target audience. They say, "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", and older christian conservatives hear "pot smoking hippies". This also ties in with all of their citations from the 70's to give license to their audience to ignore new data.

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant Рік тому

      I fear and i mean the Word Fear that my fellow Atheists dont know how bad the Situation is and focus too much on the 'Losers-who-lost' like Kent,
      even though he has 'more successuful Siblings'.
      Roe v Wade was overturned - do you; i directly ask; think that's it and
      those Responsible will stop?
      Oh please be more wary. The GOP doesnt get whole
      Video-Essays about their current and Future Plans for no Reason!
      Cody Johnston; an epic Info-Source for Leftists and Atheists anyway;
      just made 3 crucial Videos about them,
      and the New-York-rimes just pointed out a MASIVE Recruitment-Wave MAGA WILL use to sabotage the Next Election; they openly say this Goal AND are extremly
      well-organized.

  • @mjjoe76
    @mjjoe76 Рік тому +23

    1:06:29 “It’s kind of dumb” actually summarizes the entire book nicely.

  • @pseudodidact3956
    @pseudodidact3956 Рік тому +27

    If there’s one thing Contested Bones got right: Lucy probably couldn’t do calculus.

    • @EBDavis111
      @EBDavis111 Рік тому +10

      And yet she was still smarter than any Creationist.

    • @aaronpolichar7936
      @aaronpolichar7936 Рік тому +4

      She probably didn't even have a dentist.

  • @christophercanadatheist
    @christophercanadatheist Рік тому +7

    I love how they bring up curved phalanges as a supposed defeater. I have somewhat curved fingers, perhaps due to the fact I’ve been playing the violin since I was 3 years old. It’s been nearly 40 years, but I guess I must be an arboreal primate…

    • @jonathancummings3807
      @jonathancummings3807 3 місяці тому

      Well...modern Humans can still climb trees can't we? I remember as a kid, I could climb into a tree to get away from a mean dog trying to bite me.

  • @idio-syncrasy
    @idio-syncrasy Рік тому +14

    When you said "it's over all bowl shaped" I heard "it's over all bull sh*t* at first. Made me chuckle.

  • @logenvestfold4143
    @logenvestfold4143 Рік тому +17

    This channel is one of the reasons why I changed my major from art to anthropology.

    • @jonathancummings3807
      @jonathancummings3807 3 місяці тому

      Yes!!! Anthropology is incredibly interesting. Maybe minor in Sociology. They go well together.

  • @cerasinopshodgskissi3817
    @cerasinopshodgskissi3817 Рік тому +6

    The museum I work at has the Laetoli footprints displayed on the floor of the human evolution exhibit leading up to our model of Lucy. It’s a cool little display and I love watching the little kids literally follow in the footsteps of their ancestors. The human evolution exhibit wasn’t very popular for a while until we added those footprints and the exhibit got much more attention. It’s also a bit outdated and has a few errors but we correct what we can as we have more important things to put money and effort into than correcting a small insignificant errors. We did put a little sign correcting the label of our Paranthropus robustus skull caste which is still labeled as Austrolapithicus robustus so we try our best to fix what we can. It’s a small little exhibit but it’s very fun and informative and our Lucy model is very great (in my opinion).

  • @homofloridensis
    @homofloridensis Рік тому +6

    The UA-cam vid “How Homo Naledi is Changing Human Origins” is a prefect example of the difference between creationism and science. Instead of lying and begging the question about others' research, John Hawkes describes precisely what they did, what they found, and the rigorous double-blind testing of dates.

  • @dongiovanni4331
    @dongiovanni4331 Рік тому +11

    Every time they say splitters, I think of the Judean People's Front.
    **Ring, ring** I'm being told it's the People's Front of Judea.

  • @kyleepratt
    @kyleepratt Рік тому +68

    I am shocked anew every time you say what year it was published. It seems like it's from the 90s if I'm generous

    • @nicholaskalemusic982
      @nicholaskalemusic982 Рік тому

      That's probably because it's the most recent of the sources the YEC crowd have been able to shoehorn into their framework

    • @KatJ3st
      @KatJ3st Рік тому

      ​@louisenorbury2703Bingo

  • @SadisticSenpai61
    @SadisticSenpai61 Рік тому +23

    48:45 This whole talk about the footprints made me realize I have weird feet. After pausing and doing a little research, I've discovered I have Morton's toe. Basically, my 2nd toe is longer than my Big Toe (halix). This might explain why I have a tendency to roll my ankles.

    • @crimsonrosellas
      @crimsonrosellas Рік тому +3

      Ooo that's interesting! looking into it I almost have it on my left foot, my big toe and middle toe are the same size. On my other foot its normal though.

    • @John.0z
      @John.0z Рік тому +4

      I do too. I am old enough that both are now twisting and curving sideways, pushing the 3rd toes into the 4th - and probably heading for dislocation. I have other reasons for walking to now be painful, the 2nd toes just add to the pain.
      Our feet are most definitely *not* a perfect design.

    • @shanewilson7994
      @shanewilson7994 Рік тому +3

      I roll my ankle all the time too, although I feel its more that I have a penguin walk (when my knees are together and straight, my feet are at about a 45 degree angle from each other), which leads to me easily rolling an ankle, or what is more common is really bad knee pains because of the way the muscles/ligaments work against my knees.

    • @SadisticSenpai61
      @SadisticSenpai61 Рік тому +3

      @@shanewilson7994 I was also born with hip dysplasia. My ankles and knees are a mess. lol

  • @randolphphillips3104
    @randolphphillips3104 Рік тому +11

    The "info" about Lucy sounds like the "general science" freshman class in high school in the early 80s. Particularly the lare 70s reference materials. If you got evolution at all it was a single small chapter titled something like "Did We Evolve From Lucy?". If you were lucky, you might have spent a week on evolution, but likely not. A class we all had to pass so we had "the basic science" knowledge to graduate. If we wanted to know more, we would need a biology elective later. Never even covered what the scientific method, just approached as "science facts". Didn't learn more until I got into physics as a junior.
    BTW, referring the 70s as "decades and decades and decades" ago was just mean 😩🤣

    • @dancingnature
      @dancingnature Рік тому +2

      As someone who graduated in 72 , the 70s were decades and decades and decades ago😁

    • @randolphphillips3104
      @randolphphillips3104 Рік тому +2

      @@dancingnature 83 here. That is exactly my point. They demonstrate the knowledge of a high school freshman 40 years ago.

  • @finderfinder100
    @finderfinder100 Рік тому +11

    Creationists have a disdain for Lucy that is palpable.

  • @Lijrobert
    @Lijrobert Рік тому +11

    Computing (My field) is a bit of an oddball where conference proceedings are peer reviewed. Some of the most prestigious publications are conferences, but that's pretty unique to CS

  • @Locust13
    @Locust13 Рік тому +43

    You ever imagine the authors watching these videos just gritting their teeth in anger knowing there's NOTHING they can say in response because they didn't actually think anyone would, y'know... Actually Read The Book.
    They knew their target audience wouldn't read it, it's just meant to be a book on a shelf for conspiracy theorists to point to and say "there's a book that agrees with me.

    • @shanewilson7994
      @shanewilson7994 Рік тому +8

      Yup, I feel that their goal was to have the book written, and maybe have random quotes found to cite them as an authority rather than actually digging through their book and pointing out that they are clueless.

    • @88mphDrBrown
      @88mphDrBrown Рік тому

      They really don't care. All of these creationist books are designed for an audience that's just looking for confirmation bias. Meyer and Behe are also flagrant liars, it's not ignorance. The only people reading these books are mostly creationists who are looking to have their beliefs reinforced by authors with a veneer of credibility and a handful of people like GG.

  • @UltrEgoVegeta
    @UltrEgoVegeta Рік тому +26

    This should be another banger of a video. Love how you shut this nonsense diwn.

  • @JosephKano
    @JosephKano Рік тому +9

    Snark, Sass, and Science. This is such a great channel.

    • @jonathancummings3807
      @jonathancummings3807 3 місяці тому

      Yes. She has a "beautiful mind". Her intelligence is strikingly POWERFUL. I wouldn't want to try to win a debate with her in this area. I'm a big fan.

  • @sanityhasleftme
    @sanityhasleftme Рік тому +2

    I have been listening to this series so much and falling asleep to it, you have now infiltrated my dreams. Thanks. Lmao.

  • @thylacoleonkennedy7
    @thylacoleonkennedy7 Рік тому +15

    I'm never going to get over that intro. Coolest thing ever, and the song fits so well!

    • @cenedra2143
      @cenedra2143 Рік тому +1

      Yesss! I hear those drumbeats and I immediately smile and prep for knowledge 💕💕

    • @zemorph42
      @zemorph42 Рік тому +3

      @@cenedra2143 I often skip intros to shows after the first episode. I haven't skipped this one once. I didn't even notice that until today.

    • @shanewilson7994
      @shanewilson7994 Рік тому +2

      @@zemorph42 yup, if its more than a ten second intro I tend to skip it, except this one just because its so well done.

  • @mdod0
    @mdod0 Рік тому +5

    00:06:00 Wow! This finally explains why all the YEC consistently bring up 'Ardipithecus ramidus' feet when talking about 'Australopithecus afarensis'. They claim they're the same species... minor differences indeed. The cognitive dissonance required to be a YEC is mind boggling.

  • @Molly-jh4kz
    @Molly-jh4kz Рік тому +3

    There is something enormously funny to me about the idea that Lucy didn't have feet. Not that they were lost, destroyed, or never found but that she literally didn't have any feet. Just a footless Australopithecus afarensis hobbling around 3.2 million years ago. It's roughy out there.

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl Рік тому +4

    Keep giving 'em hell, Erika - they definitely deserve it! I wish I'd caught this when it first came out, but ... that's how my luck is (epecially the past two years, for sure). I really enjoy these!

  • @Janawrites
    @Janawrites Рік тому +13

    Another great video! I love listening to the longer videos while completing sewing projects. The snark and sass came through beautifully in this one, Erika. Keep up the good work!

  • @renwhit100
    @renwhit100 Рік тому +1

    my biggest criticism of your work is that every time i watch a video and see the intro i have to go listen to the mind electric again. damn you, making me listen to a great song 5-6 times a day!

  • @sunnijo
    @sunnijo Рік тому +10

    I love this series. ❤

  • @MetallicAAlabamA
    @MetallicAAlabamA Рік тому +6

    When AronRa mentions someone in his content, you best believe that's someone I am most definitely going to trust when it comes to everything ape, monkeys, etc. I really enjoy listening and learning.

    • @dontworry4945
      @dontworry4945 Рік тому +1

      He was a stepping stone for me as a child growing away from the doctrine of the church. And eventually my obsession with evolutionary biology. If he recommends. I sub..
      The scientific community on UA-cam is something i only recently dove into after a decade of getting my feet wet. Channels like this are worth their weight in gold.

    • @MetallicAAlabamA
      @MetallicAAlabamA Рік тому

      @@dontworry4945 Totally agree! I'm 44 years old, and I used to have a Facebook page, Instagram, tik tok, and twitter. I've completely gotten away from all of those other social media sites and have stuck strictly with YT. I guess the fact I've had my channel since 2008, well, since 2011 If we're being technical. I have another channel that I couldn't get back into so I started another one lol. But I guess the others social media sites have gotten way too absurd to me. I enjoyed Instagram, and tik tok. But tik tok is just evidence that humanity is speeding up as if we're trying to stop time from flowing. Cause time dilation is a thing, and according to some of the brains of the world, getting to the speed of light basically stops time. I think that is one reason why it may be damn near impossible to ever travel the speed of light. Speed of light = Time. At least that's what I've read on a few sites and also watching channels like "Event Horizon" and other Science fact, and SyFy channels. Where was I going with this conversation? Oh yeah, social media is ok....But I only need one form of social media. And w/YT, I get my information, my music/ entertainment, see whatever advertising that I need to see, or don't, and DIY videos about creative stuff that is just freaking awesome!!! Lol. Preciate the reply, and take care!

  • @davelauerman6865
    @davelauerman6865 Рік тому +6

    I hope our favorite Gibbon gets over her gut sickness soon.

  • @johnnyrepine937
    @johnnyrepine937 Рік тому +5

    That answers the question I had last time, with whether or not you're borrowing those from school or you increased your collection .

  • @heriticsanghieli
    @heriticsanghieli Рік тому +9

    I enjoy these long-form discussions; I know little about the discourse of human evolution, but these are easy enough for me to follow and are very informative. They are also rhetorically fascinating. One thing that I've noticed that might contribute to the cringe-inducing nature of the use of "paleo-experts" over a more proper term like "paleoanthropologists" is that it both violates a discourse norm and it acts as a bait and switch. By avoiding the use of the proper terminology, Sanford and Rupe can define the term they do use in any way that they deem fit without actually being incorrect. This enables them to potentially present fringe scholars or outright conspiracy theorists as possessing the same legitimacy as credentialed, respected members of the discourse of paleoanthropology. I cannot recall if they have done this in past video segments (I'd have to rewatch them), but it opens the possibility for them to do so, seems distinctly deliberate, and is, therefore, a bit concerning. I cannot see why else they would avoid the proper term. Thank you for reading the ramblings of a composition professor.

  • @feralfoods
    @feralfoods 8 місяців тому

    this has quickly become one of my favorite channels, thank you for your dedication and hard work.

  • @rowbot5555
    @rowbot5555 Рік тому +2

    Great to have more content from you, always fun to listen to this more long-form stuff while I'm working

  • @wondrousinquiry
    @wondrousinquiry Рік тому +9

    i'm really encouraged to study anthropology when i go back to school, thanks to your channel!

  • @rhanak4115
    @rhanak4115 7 місяців тому +1

    I really appreciate the 'detailed show and tell' you gave us with replica bones in this video! It's one thing to hear terms and descriptions, but so much more helpful (to me, at least) to see the features and comparisons between hominins with my own eyes to understand why they're important.

  • @John.0z
    @John.0z Рік тому +4

    I love them including a monkey with the modern apes! Having listened to the stories of people who left their church due primarily to how those who led the church misrepresented almost every subject, I have to wonder why Rupe and Sandford (sp?) chose to publish this error-filled book? If past performance is any indication, it is more likely to push any inquiring young people away from their proposed position.
    For me, this book pushing people away from a YEC position is a good thing for those young people, but I still find their publication odd.

  • @robsquared2
    @robsquared2 Рік тому +1

    "Here's a human femur I prepared earlier," and then dead-stare at the camera would have been funny.

  • @johnnyrepine937
    @johnnyrepine937 Рік тому +7

    So their claim is that we only have Lucy's skeleton and not the typical we only have a truck load of fossils?

    • @leeshackelford7517
      @leeshackelford7517 Рік тому +4

      Not quite, they dont openly SAY we just have Lucy.......they just talk about her AS IF she's all we have

  • @ajscuell7155
    @ajscuell7155 Рік тому +1

    Excellent, Erika! Super stuff. Thanks for all the time and effort involved in making these videos exposing YEC distortion and lies.

  • @chrisconnors7418
    @chrisconnors7418 Рік тому +9

    Flat earth debunkers say, gotta lie to flerf (flerf=flat earther). Replace flerf with yerf (young earther) and it’d still be true.
    Two YEC organizations independently listed which bones belonged to human and which belonged to apes. They argued that they clearly were one or the other. But when you compared their charts they often contradicted each other. What one group said was definitely an ape the other group said was definitely a human. There were quite a few contradictions which beautifully illustrates the transitioning that the YEC says doesn’t exist.

    • @mjjoe76
      @mjjoe76 Рік тому +6

      For YECs, the ninth commandment was revised to “Thou shalt not bear false witness, unless it furthers your political agenda.”

    • @chrisconnors7418
      @chrisconnors7418 Рік тому +1

      Ha! Indeed. Liars for Jesus.

  • @ricklehman8097
    @ricklehman8097 Рік тому

    What an interesting lecture.
    Love your break down of mistakes & dishonesty.

  • @ScottyMcYachty
    @ScottyMcYachty Рік тому +6

    Love what you do! Thank you!

  • @AbuctingTacos
    @AbuctingTacos Рік тому +3

    I love this series so much

  • @robertclegg2609
    @robertclegg2609 Рік тому +3

    Hey Erika!!! Just got in early this time so I wanted to say Hi!
    Thanx for the content :-)
    ☮️♥️♾️

  • @jonathancummings3807
    @jonathancummings3807 3 місяці тому

    2:20:00 No. I wouldn't say listenting to your "beautiful mind" powerful intelligence, refuting Creationists hostile anti Evolution efforts as "suffering". It was actually a pleasurable experience. Earning my subscription. Very well done.

  • @amberbydreamsart5467
    @amberbydreamsart5467 10 місяців тому

    Your notes remind me of some of my professors' notes on my essays back in the day. Nothing cuts to the core more than someone just circling a piece of your writing and writing 'why?' next to it

  • @johnnyrepine937
    @johnnyrepine937 Рік тому +2

    I mentioned my anthropology professor, John Reeves, who was dating one of my philosophy professors, Dr Priscilla Sakezles, to my buddy earlier when he was dropping me off. Then I went on a tangent about Dr Lovejoy who is a colleague of Reeves at Kent State, and I briefly mentioned the Lucy specimen, only to be met with the blank stare and a shrug because he wasn't aware of it.

  • @arndnaj
    @arndnaj Рік тому

    Love the content, love the intro and outro, love the animation! Wonderful fucking channel!

  • @TheSletrab
    @TheSletrab Рік тому +6

    Fantastic as usual 👏

  • @keithjones5086
    @keithjones5086 Рік тому +1

    Thanks again for a contact heavy long vid. It may take me 2 hrs to listen but it will take 6 to 7 hrs to process. Thanks for the homework 😀

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant Рік тому +1

      I fear and i mean the Word Fear that my fellow Atheists dont know how bad the Situation is and focus too much on the 'Losers-who-lost' like Kent, even though he has 'more successuful Siblings'.
      Roe v Wade was overturned - do you; i directly ask; think that's it and
      those Responsible will stop?
      Oh please be more wary. The GOP doesnt get whole
      Video-Essays about their current and Future Plans for no Reason!
      Cody Johnston; an epic Info-Source for Leftists and Atheists anyway;
      just made 3 crucial Videos about them,
      and the New-York-rimes just pointed out a MASIVE Recruitment-Wave MAGA
      WILL use to sabotage the Next Election; they openly say this Goal AND are extremly
      well-organized.

  • @jeremykoerperich4779
    @jeremykoerperich4779 Рік тому +1

    Great video… I haven’t watched any of your videos for a couple weeks … this video was a good fix lol

  • @randolphphillips3104
    @randolphphillips3104 Рік тому +4

    What would they accept as transitional:
    For them to accept any, you would need to tighten the bolts holding the metal plate on their skull, then firmly smack it with a ball peen to make sure it is secure. Repeat until the annoying sounds stop.
    ------_---
    What I learned from them:
    Data:
    1. I have flat feet.
    2. I can spread out my toes,
    3. I do not walk or run well,
    4. I am "barrel-shaped" (now)
    5. I once climbed a tree,
    6. Walking makes my back hurt.
    7. I can't do calculus.
    It is not:
    1. I have weird feet,
    2. I was once a young boy,
    3. The destruction of the cartilage in my knee from a fall in my 40s,
    4. Damage to my back from a car accident, or
    5. I am old.
    It must be:
    I am a chimpanzee!
    (Sorry for the extended lead up)

    • @ceicli
      @ceicli Рік тому

      😂 Very nice!

  • @FringeSpectre
    @FringeSpectre Рік тому

    Wasn't expecting an animated intro. Nice.

  • @velvetmagnetta3074
    @velvetmagnetta3074 Рік тому +23

    Radioactive decay rates are statistical. For anyone who doesn't know - the radioactive decay rate of an element is NOT a measure of how fast any individual atom in a sample will release energy and transform into a decay product...
    Rather, it is a probabilistic quantum process wherein you can't ever predict WHEN any single atom will decay, but you can observe, measure, and predict an element sample's OVERALL probability THAT a certain portion of all the atoms in the sample will decay at a certain rate.
    That's why we measure radioactive decay in "half-life" - approximately 1/2 of the sample will decay at a rate specific to the sample element - known as the element's "decay constant".
    So, it's a bit nonsensical to say this process can be sped up or slowed down since radioactive decay itself is a statistical probabalistic process.
    Sorry, I know it's weird, but that's how the quantum world works!

    • @monsterinhead214
      @monsterinhead214 Рік тому +3

      THey invent so many ... uh ... ideas, it is not surprising they came up with this one. very convenient if you want to ignore the evidence.

    • @NotGoodAtNamingThings
      @NotGoodAtNamingThings Рік тому +5

      I have amazingly spoken to theists who reject the idea that it's statistical because ... reasons they never give. Lots of people seem to emotionally decide what they want to believe, and then close their minds to alternatives. They see a mind that's open to evidence as a biased mind. Eg it's not that I'm open to the earth being either old or young and that I follow the evidence to the earth being old, no, they tell me that I presuppose the earth is old.

    • @monsterinhead214
      @monsterinhead214 Рік тому +1

      @@NotGoodAtNamingThings You cna lead a mind to knowledge, but you can't make it think. You can't MAKE someone understand the math, or the physics, that makes the practical use of the decay rate useful. They can easily dodge understanding it. And of course, the decisions are emotion-based, that's how apes have successfully adapted to survive in populations of apes.

    • @velvetmagnetta3074
      @velvetmagnetta3074 Рік тому +2

      @@NotGoodAtNamingThings - Do the theists you spoke to feel the way Einstein did about it? Frustrated with the uncertainty inherent in Quantum Theory, he said:
      "God does not play dice with the universe!"
      If so, I totally get that! The statistical nature of reality on the quantum level seems to go against the idea of a pre-written plan for the universe and thus, our lives.
      It's scary at first and can throw you off-balance to learn of this sort of baked-in uncertainty. God's supposed to be omniscient. He's supposed to have known from the very beginning everything that would ever happen!
      But I argue, it doesn't negate the existence of a god at all. Maybe this is just how he made it? I mean, it would certainly bolster the idea of Free Will, wouldn't it?
      The universe began with a certain mixture of physical properties and laws that would govern the way elements and forces interact.
      But a simple Newtonian clockwork universe where if you know all the initial conditions of a system, with a smart enough god or a powerful enough computer, you could predict anything that will ever happen...
      That kind of universe leaves no room for creatures to grow and learn, to make mistakes, regret them, and try harder next time.
      And if Christians believe humans are made in god's image, well frankly, if I was all-knowing and all-powerful, I would quickly become all-bored with that kind of universe!
      So why wouldn't god throw in a little bit of uncertainty in every little piece of reality? Averaged out over larger scales - like at our human macro-level - the wild quantum west more or less calms down and takes on this more probable shape that allows us to comprehend the world around us in a more reasonably predictable way.
      But with that little tiny box of unknowability built into every bit of reality, not even god can know what we will do! And if he wanted us to have the Free Will to choose the right path, why would he make a universe where such choice would be impossible?

    • @JaniceLHz
      @JaniceLHz Рік тому

      @velvet magnetta
      I agree with you that radioactive decay rates are statistical, and I do not think that radioactive decay rates have varied over time.
      However, I think a statistical rate could be increased or decreased. For example, the heat exchange from an iron frying pan to an egg depends on the collisions of individual atoms. The rate of heat exchange speeds up if the iron frying pan is heated.

  • @j.c.5528
    @j.c.5528 Рік тому +5

    "We agree with the paleo experts..."
    Drink!

  • @DeviantincTV
    @DeviantincTV Рік тому +3

    1:10:00 I feel attacked; I climb all the time. I'm 42 😅

  • @HighMindedHominid
    @HighMindedHominid 10 місяців тому +1

    "Highly respected sources" reminds me a lot of the YEC school I attended. They taught us to argue against evolution by using a lot of the same material used in Constested Bones and to tell people our information came from "documented sources". That's not vague at all. The national enquirer is a documented source.

  • @skipwest291
    @skipwest291 Рік тому +5

    Could it be possible that some A. Afarenis are more arboreal while others were spending more time on the ground depending on the environment that different groups were exploiting.

    • @dancingnature
      @dancingnature Рік тому +2

      Yep just like modern humans . I wish I could climb palm trees the way they do

  • @cenedra2143
    @cenedra2143 Рік тому +2

    "Paleo-experts"
    Erika *sigh*
    Us *DRINK*

  • @jonathancummings3807
    @jonathancummings3807 3 місяці тому

    What an incredibly powerful counter of Creationists criticisms of evolution of Humans from Australopithecus Afarensis type Hominin ancestors.

  • @Narakafurin
    @Narakafurin 8 місяців тому

    Watching you seethe over idiots being idiots brings me life.

  • @danielkorrmann5467
    @danielkorrmann5467 Рік тому +1

    " Pushback from the nucklewalking crowd" xD

  • @johnnyrepine937
    @johnnyrepine937 Рік тому +7

    But if human ancestors lost a vertebra, does that mean we lost information? 😉

    • @somebodyelse9219
      @somebodyelse9219 Рік тому +2

      Information is stored in the vertebrae.

    • @elingeniero9117
      @elingeniero9117 Рік тому

      No vertebra were lost. You are born with 33. They fuse as you age.
      Information loss - The basic premise of Information Theory is that all previous states of a system can be derived from the current state. The information of a system can never be lost and always increases. It is a measure of Entropy. Yeah, the claim information loss prevents evolution because of the 2nd law of thermodynamics violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

  • @NotGoodAtNamingThings
    @NotGoodAtNamingThings Рік тому +5

    Oddly, UA-cam won't show me a single reply to any comment to this video. Several claim to have replies but when I try to open them, none are visible. UA-cam comment sections are getting to the point where they are unusable.

    • @emilywood3680
      @emilywood3680 Рік тому +3

      Same for me.

    • @markshort9098
      @markshort9098 Рік тому +2

      I'm able to see most replies on this video but most other videos lately have had most if not all replies to comments hidden.. UA-cam is getting worse everyday

    • @addish5022
      @addish5022 Рік тому +1

      I can’t post comments with links or they’re flagged as spam. Their comment system sucks.

    • @tkat6442
      @tkat6442 Рік тому +3

      I think what's happening is that the reply counts include a mixture of replies that are flagged as inappropriate, whether justly so or not, and spam bot replies that try to lure people to give out their personal info to claim a supposed prize or gift, usally impersonating the channel owner. I would love to see YT successfully stop the spam bots without falsely flagging anyone's legit comments, but here we are...

    • @tennicksalvarez9079
      @tennicksalvarez9079 Рік тому +1

      Same

  • @lethargogpeterson4083
    @lethargogpeterson4083 2 місяці тому

    I'm listening to this kind of like a bedtime story, with my cat sleeping on my lap. "Once upon a time, there was a hominin named Lucy. Lucy was sad because some annoying men wouldn't believe what her fossils were telling them..."

  • @monsterinhead214
    @monsterinhead214 Рік тому +2

    I signed on to Erika's Patreon. Great stuff. And!! look ima hooman dur dur dur

  • @fellowhuman9822
    @fellowhuman9822 Рік тому +2

    In the case of the OH 8 foot, there has been a push for reattribution...to Paranthropus boisei, mainly based on samples from the Omo formation, at a time where only P. aethiopicus (P. boisei's likely ancestor) was present. Hypothesis comes from a recent-ish DeSilva paper if memory serves.

  • @Kenshin6321
    @Kenshin6321 Рік тому +2

    A 2 hour video? I guess Christmas came early.

  • @cabbking
    @cabbking Рік тому

    I’m in love with your brain.

  • @kinglyzard
    @kinglyzard Рік тому +2

    It's always the Jack Of All Trades that survives to be able to derive in any direction.
    Ardipithecus was handy both on the ground and in the trees, and so was better suited for savanna life. Australopithicus was slightly more transitional towards open plains life, but was still competent in the trees. We in the genus Homo are derived terrestrial bipeds, but are still transitional. We're the "missing link" between Australopithicus and our future selves.

  • @robbieburris2333
    @robbieburris2333 Рік тому

    Ma'am you are my hero.

  • @Rednecknerd_rob9634
    @Rednecknerd_rob9634 Місяць тому

    "Lucy, you got some explainin' to do." Wait, wrong Lucy.

  • @frechjo
    @frechjo Рік тому +1

    The problem is clear, they just don't want to acknowledge how horny ancient humans were, and how many hybrids they produced. It's crazy, all those transitional species are really just the grandparents of Noah, inappropriately being a bit too fond of our furred cousins. That was one of the main reasons for the flood, they just didn't write it down because it was too embarrassing to admit most of your family walked on their knuckles.
    Some of them were great swimmers, actually, and luckily survived the flood. And their descendants became modern day young earth creationists, you can see some of them even are publishing books about it!

  • @darrenkemp6323
    @darrenkemp6323 Рік тому

    An interesting and thought-provoking analysis, although I wonder exactly how many Young Earth Creationists can do Calculus.

  • @command.cyborg
    @command.cyborg Рік тому +1

    Good stuff! 🙂👍

  • @xBoLtiCuS
    @xBoLtiCuS Рік тому +1

    Hello! Love your content!
    I think about evolution a lot so when you mention the driver's of evolution and behavior isn't mentioned... it prompted me to ask, do you think behaviors shape things in the process of evolution?
    I think it would be one!

    • @lucyla9947
      @lucyla9947 Рік тому

      Behavior is most definitely a part of Evolution, behavioral differences can even lead to speciation. Just when talking about fossils it can be difficult to talk about behavior as we can't actually watch their behavior, so we have to rely on other clues.

  • @sandycarr22
    @sandycarr22 Рік тому +1

    They brought lies to a skull fight.

  • @lesterclarke83
    @lesterclarke83 Рік тому

    I am great fan of UA-cam channel .I deeply appreciate the depth and accuracy of your show in dealing creationist grifters . You are an excellent science educator. Yes you are funny and lovely smart women, Thank you for your wonderful work, all the best. I wrote you because I am deeply offend by your cowardly "critics" who engage offence and misogynist immature comments because they can't reasonable with your information and scientific arguments.

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant Рік тому

      I fear and i mean the Word Fear that my fellow Atheists dont know how bad the Situation is and focus too much on the 'Losers-who-lost' like Kent,
      even though he has 'more successuful Siblings'.
      Roe v Wade was overturned - do you; i directly ask; think that's it and
      those Responsible will stop?
      Oh please be more wary. The GOP doesnt get whole
      Video-Essays about their current and Future Plans for no Reason!
      Cody Johnston; an epic Info-Source for Leftists and Atheists anyway;
      just made 3 crucial Videos about them,
      and the New-York-rimes just pointed out a MASIVE Recruitment-Wave MAGA
      WILL use to sabotage the Next Election; they openly say this Goal AND are extremly
      well-organized.

  • @markvonwisco7369
    @markvonwisco7369 Рік тому

    "Paleo Experts!" I feel your pain Erika... 😤😬😤

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant Рік тому +1

      I fear and i mean the Word Fear that my fellow Atheists dont know how bad the Situation is and focus too much on the 'Losers-who-lost' like Kent,
      even though he has 'more successuful Siblings'.
      Roe v Wade was overturned - do you; i directly ask; think that's it and
      those Responsible will stop?
      Oh please be more wary. The GOP doesnt get whole
      Video-Essays about their current and Future Plans for no Reason!
      Cody Johnston; an epic Info-Source for Leftists and Atheists anyway;
      just made 3 crucial Videos about them,
      and the New-York-rimes just pointed out a MASIVE Recruitment-Wave MAGA
      WILL use to sabotage the Next Election; they openly say this Goal AND are extremly
      well-organized.

  • @SirSpenace
    @SirSpenace Місяць тому

    33:15 You can look at a video of a cat eating off a fork taped to its paw and say, "Wow that is remarkably human," but that doesn't mean you think the cat is a literal human eating with a fork lmao

  • @numericalcode
    @numericalcode Рік тому +2

    Irritating and nefarious indeed!

  • @MrCliffipoo
    @MrCliffipoo Рік тому +1

    interesting stuff... thanks

  • @idio-syncrasy
    @idio-syncrasy Рік тому +6

    GG I feel if I read that it would produce too many wrong and misleading supposed facts to seep into my brain. I suppose if you know your subject it's not a risk.

    • @JaniceLHz
      @JaniceLHz Рік тому

      That's a really good point. As I understand it, we usually remember a claim but not where it came from. Therefore, it seems wise rather than starting with the source you think is likely to be wrong, start with a trusted expert's review of the source.

  • @jaredgreen2363
    @jaredgreen2363 Рік тому +2

    54:00 just making it up, of course.

  • @darkowlmusic
    @darkowlmusic Рік тому +2

    At 6:04 she sounds like she’s rapping 😂

  • @claritystarthorne4159
    @claritystarthorne4159 Рік тому +1

    Honestly It's like "how many times these idiots gonna make me say feet?" xD

  • @Svartalf14
    @Svartalf14 Рік тому +2

    Sorry if I seem silly, but this is the first 'Library of Errors' video I feel like watching, but all of a sudden, I "m wondering if I would really benefit from watching them in order, or if I can start with this one, and watch the rest later?

    • @bushmasterflash
      @bushmasterflash Рік тому +3

      The series of videos cover particular books.
      This video is the second in the series of "Contested Bones".
      The first video series (eleven videos) was on the book "Why human Evolution is False".
      It makes a bit more sense to watch each particular book series in order because some points are raised in one video and answered in another in the series.
      But. It's also OK to watch the first video on "Contested Bones" out of order. My recommendation would be to watch that next, so you are caught up with this book, and then start at video 1 on "Why human Evolution is False" and run through those videos in order.
      They are available in the playlist "Library of Errors". :)

  • @crhu319
    @crhu319 Рік тому +1

    Erika you need a full season of a high budget TV series with animated clips, to thoroughly and finally eradicate every last cultist argument or claim about evidence or evolution. Something that YEC cultists can be legally ordered to watch & pass tests on to be allowed out into society.

  • @Molly-jh4kz
    @Molly-jh4kz Рік тому +1

    I never realized paleoanthropologists were so passionate about feet. If they want more public exposer they should put all these finds on wiki feet.

    • @jonathancummings3807
      @jonathancummings3807 3 місяці тому

      Well. "Feet" are incredibly important regarding Human evolution. This seems to mark the Australopithecine stage as more the "Australopithecine Revolution", when the feet dramatically changed and Anamensis and Afarensis are walking upright, very competently, and in the past 4 million years the surviving lineage refined this ability to our current bipedal locomotive capability.

  • @marthawolfsen5809
    @marthawolfsen5809 Рік тому

    You'd think the creationists would be thrilled by the evidence that we're not actually descended from knuckle walkers. But apparently not. Oh, well....

  • @petersage5157
    @petersage5157 Рік тому

    "She was a tree-swinging ape and could not do calculus." I'd bet my next paycheck against anybody else's next paycheck that I could throw a stone into a schoolyard and hit a modern ape who climbs trees and can do calculus.

  • @KitsuneVoss
    @KitsuneVoss Рік тому

    Johansson also dated Lucy via the vision track method.. It's in his book on Lucy.

  • @addish5022
    @addish5022 2 місяці тому

    Reading some of the literature, there seems to be an issue with what Ward was arguing in concluding A afarensis had pedal arches because she used a limited sample set of species, only comparing the angles and proportions of the metatarsal that was found with humans, chimpanzees, and lowland gorillas.
    Another paper from Mitchell et al did a broader analysis, comparing the same bone with not only chimps, lowland gorillas, and humans, but also some old world monkeys, orangutans, and mountain gorillas, finding the mountain gorilla had more similar arches to A. afarensis, not humans. Although this doesn’t falsify Australopiths as habitual bipeds it does put into question how human-like it actually was. (I can’t post links to the papers or my comment will be flagged as spam and not be shown. Just look up the author names.)