Last Conquistador Screening and Discussion (2008)
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- This is a New Mexico in Focus episode that we produced back in 2008. We hope it can give some real insight into the recent demonstrations around Don Juan de Oñate sculptures and artwork. One of those protests in Old Town Albuquerque this week ended in violence when an armed man shot a man during a protest which included attempts to remove an Oñate statue. This particular show features a P.O.V. Documentary about another such sculpture, but the themes and opinions definitely still linger here in New Mexico, more than ten years after this first aired.
Original show description:
"Spanish Conquistador Don Juan de Oñate is one of the most controversial figures in the history of the Southwest, and is also the subject of a controversial and colossal statue that now calls El Paso home. KNME looks at a community's controversy over a Hispanic heritage monument depicting a man known to have murdered and enslaved Native Americans. That statue, and the emotions it evokes, is the subject of a new national PBS documentary, P.O.V. “The Last Conquistador.” After screening the program, N.M. IN FOCUS held a panel discussion, which included one of the filmmakers, exploring different sides of the issue, and took questions from the studio audience (including the statue’s creator - artist John Houser), moderated by Gene Grant. Does the controversy divide solely along racial lines? Are old wounds just too deep, or are new wounds being inflicted? Can some kind of healing take place and can there be reconciliation?
Then, David Alire Garcia sat down with another panel to debate the role of public art in our society. What is the obligation of art - and specifically public art - to cultural sensitivity?"
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Onate is no hero. I think there are other settlers who are heroes. But we should also acknowledge that msot of the settlers that came with Onate weren't pure blooded Spaniards, most of the settlers were of Nahua descent. Then those settlers intermixed with Pueblo women. So the 2nd generation settlers were of Spanish, Nahua, and Pueblo descent. I just think we should be honoring other people, not Spanish Conquisadors who don't represent who we really are.
Juan de Oñate born in Zacatecas
Criollo Novohispano
Aun es extranjero
Tell the story the good the bad, the pain and the hurt right next to the statue. Make a museum right there and explain to all the visitors of the area. Too often history is told as a one sided tale.
Amazing documentary the only way to move foward is knowledge of the past and respect for the indigenous people.
Native people where never removed and will never be removed because God made them seeds. And they are not the minorities because the Americans are huge. And the Mestizos are part of their history. Just like the Metis.
The monument causes a lot of pain. Why do that? Mostly is in a community at least it should be in a museum.
Yes Is good to have a conversation. But address the hurt now. What is going on in these native communities that would be more helpful? Also the Mestizo population have alot of hurt and confusion.
I'm Argentinean!!! I also want to say that of course in the Spanish Empire there were good and bad things, as the Incas were good and bad, they made an empire of more than 5000 km and subjugated dozens of peoples with wars!!! What to say about the Aztecs, what was the worst empire in the history of humanity in terms of oppression of the peoples and also cannibalistic!!!!!! They made raids kidnapping people to neighboring towns for human sacrifices and killed around 20,000 people per year in sacrifices!!!!! Of course we can also say that they made beautiful temples and that the city of Tenochtitlan was incredible!!! but this town also committed atrocities!!! Everyone only talks about the Spanish, doesn't this seem strange to you??? Why don't we talk about the English and French, that if we compare them, they were much worse!!! The Spaniards mixed, that's why HISPANOAMERICA is mestizo!!! and this is also why there are still a considerable number of indigenous people in the countries of Latin America who are part, in some countries, of more than half of the population!!!! then we must relativize!!! I am proud to descend from the Spanish empire and the contribution of American cultures!!!!!! with all the good and the bad that it may have had!!! I repeat it once again, I feel proud and I won't change it for anything!!!!! What the Spanish empire did was unique in the world!!!!!!!!
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I am a lover of history, and I have consulted many documents from different countries doing historical scientific research, which takes a lot of time and effort to do all this, and I can only say, what ignorance!!! as a consequence, for a long time, of a great Anglo-Saxon manipulation, I am already very tired of the indignation that I have felt for years, at how history is distorted and manipulated for the interests of certain powers. They talk about genocide, when there never was genocide!!! Genocide was committed for the first time in America, after the so-called independence, for example, like the campaigns of General Roca in Argentina, which were campaigns to exterminate the indigenous people to clear the pampa and populate it with people from Europe, and this happened in the second half of the 19th century!!!! GENOCIDE, is wanting to exterminate a people for racial religious political reasons etc. Spain does not create colonies, that this is another error of how people call the possessions of the Spanish empire, which in reality were viceroyalties, governorships and general captaincies that were part of the Empire's full Administrative Legal Law, I repeat, the same rights and obligations that in the metropolis!!! that was unique, the English, the Dutch, or the French never did something like that, and consequently all the indigenous people were declared subjects of His Majesty and for this reason the Spanish had children with the people of America, then HISPANOAMERICA, how it is essentially at an ethnic level ???!!! MIXED!!! And if one travels through all of Latin America, he will see how in Bolivia the majority of the population is mestizo and pure indigenous and likewise in Guatemala, Peru and other Latin American countries !!!, where is the genocide???
The destruction and system left by the Spanish can still be seen and felt in latin america....
Por lo que se ve sólo dejamos vivos a los tontos.
@@josefidelsaa2815 ve por todo Latino America, a ver si encuentras una persona que SE identifica como decendiente de Los españoles...
@@mixtecjaguar9824 los hay, los hay. Aunque claro, si hablamos de "identificarse" o de autopercepción podrías encontrarte hasta con AMLO diciendo que es descendiente directo de Cuauhtémoc.
Por cierto, esos que no se "identifican", ¿Son cristianos o sacrifican a los perros y gatos como ofrenda a Huitzilopochli?
These people all act like such victims.
@Texan White Panther white panther, what are you doing culturally appropriating the black Panther title? 😂
@Texan White Panther normal people align themselves with radical violent groups? 🤔 Nice try.
2:50 The only criminal I saw. Don Juan de Onate was a man of his era . Take a history class and appreciate culture !
He was a convicted criminal. We shouldn't be honoring criminals.
I don’t have to take a class! My children and I are Juan Onate’s decedents via his son Lorenzo Onate who settled along the Texas Rio Grande Valley. However as someone who chooses to identify as “indigenous” I absolutely hate this ancestor’s behavior. Not only was he cruel to the Acoma but also to his own people in reading historical documents. A very cruel man indeed!!!
I love history. Does that mean i would put up a statue of Hitler?! No! Forget statues and pick up a history book instead.
The ppl that want to keep the statue are crazy
I’m a Mestizo. I feel like if the native are so offended by the white Spanish invaders . Then don’t use anything that has to do with Europe . No cows
How ? When Europeans force them to live that way. You Cleary missed the point. It's glorifying a man who cut an indigenous foot
Viva La Nueva Espana