The Wall -Album Reaction Part 2 (Happiest Days Of Our Lives, Another Brick In The Wall pt 2, Mother)
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Remember, Water's lost his father in the War, leaving his mother as the lone parent. It isn't about a mother who doesn't love her son, it's a mother who loves her son SO much that she smothers him, desperate not to lose him too, having lost her husband. It is destructive and selfish, but doesn't come from a lack of love
EXACTLY - Thank You
This kind of "love" I would assert is indeed not love actually, it is a form of narcissism or at the very least self centeredness on the mother's part. When a mother truly loves her child she builds him up to move into the world independently. When her own needs overwhelm her love for her child, she hobbles him emotionally so that he will always be there for her (to care for him, she says when in reality it is her own needs she is trying to meet at the expense of her child's well being.) That being said, all of us come to our lives with the tools we have and all of us come to parenthood imperfect and trying (mostly) to do the best we know how to.
@@ferniek5000 I think you need to listen to some people that can explain surviving war. You quickly learn you control next to nothing & have to take any action at any time that you think will help you survive. You pass on to those that you love what you think is best.
@@SCplayer1000 That experience is part of what contributes to the way I understand this subject.
@@ferniek5000 Your thoughts are quite well put, but wouldn't it have to come down to a question of intent?
Watch the movie when you're done reviewing the album. Safe to say Roger had some issues back then. Alright, now too. lol
I pointed out the double negative last time reviewed Brick 2. You are correct that Roger meant that phrase as essentially, "we don't need YOUR education", but Gilmour in an interview years later said that they had taken so much grief for suggesting that education wasn't needed that he felt it necessary to point out that the phrase was a double negative. He said it with a wink. Suffice to say, they knew what they were doing. They always planted banana skins for the witless to slip upon. At any rate, the real meaning of the song is that Roger once had a mean teacher and probably got his backside spanked. He does love to carry a grudge.
Interesting factoid about the song Mother. It doesn't quite sound like Pink Floyd, the reason being that neither Rick Wright nor Nick Mason play on it. And Roger doesn't play bass either on the studio version. Roger fired Rick during the recording of the album, so he doesn't appear on all of the tracks. And Nick had difficulty with the time signature, so they used session master Jeff Porcaro. Your interpretation of the song is spot on. it's funny to me that every mother's day you see reactors using 'Mother' as their tribute to mom. But they don't pay attention to the lyrics. Because the reality is that the relationship between Mother and Pink are at the root of his issues with women for the remainder of the album. Sweet sounding song with dark, dark lyrics. It's one of my favorite songs on the album.
14:00 excellent analysis my friend! 'Mamas gonna put all of her fears into you...' As a fatherless boy with an insecure 'mum', I can't even tell you how profound these lines are.
When you’re done with The Wall, try Reelin In The Years by Steely Dan. Steely Dan is a world of its own and you’ll want to try every track, just like for Led Zeppelin
I am geniunely excited to hear you get to the later part if this album cause man when brick in the wall 3 and the trial hits it hits hard.
Funny note: in the movie they change the one line "Mother, will they put me in the firing line?" to "Mother am I really dying?" as they depict Pink (the main character) getting a disease from taking care of a rat he found wounded and then is scolded and probably told something of this doomsayer, exaggerated and overprotective kind to him by his mom. The same moment is then visually reprised in Confortably Numb, (which you already listened to) as he talks about the feeling (my hands felt like two balloons)
Both Time and Another Brick in the Wall Part 2 feels like when both of the albums open up and kick into full gear for me. It's like the album suddenly opens up and hits you with the full force of the soundstage soundscape that Pink Floyd created. Their build up is so good.
Great stuff.
It's great to see someone else discover and love the things we do, and your reactions and workings out are brilliant.
You gotta do the final cut album after.
You'll love working that one out.
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Your thoughts and analysis of this album so far are spot on!! Absolutely brilliant!!
I’m very impressed how you are honing in on the themes so quickly. Great active listening!!! Some of the nuances of the music and lyrics took time to unfold for me but then again I was very young upon hearing it back when it came out. I’m enjoying your reactions immensely.
Absolutely love your commentary! Considering you have not seen the film(I don’t think), you have an incredible grasp on the theme, and significance of the album and lyrics. Outstanding job. Thanks for re-introducing me to how much I am entranced by this flawless piece of art.
Absolutely fantastic review you did - that was awesome 👊
You’re doing great. I can tell you are really going to enjoy this.
Hi mate! I'm loving your reaction/analysis of this album. I first discovered this album in my teens when it first came out and played it religiously for years - all of my friends were the same. So, it's so fascinating to see how you perceive it all. Great stuff man!
Hey @SyedRewinds - I think you got the point very well and I like your review. Pink Floyd has always written very critical lyrics and their music is always very expressive. Needless to say that I P.F. like so much and I like very much that a young person like you see it as well (so I think). Thanks for your expertise and keep it up - I like it a lot! Best regards from hamburg (germany)
Favourite album of all time, glad to be on this journey with you!
Great reaction. This is the part of the album explaining where are fictional character (Pink ) Gathered all of his bricks to build his metaphorical wall. Mother is my favorite track from this album just because it explains where his bricks come from so well. Also it feels so relatable. I love this album even though it gets very dark. I can’t wait to see the rest of your roller coaster ride with this album thank you for sharing with us.❤️✌️🌼
I think you're the 3rd reaction to Mother I've watched and the first to fully get it. Spot on!
Waters shines as a vocalist throughout, but the lines "mother will they put me inbthe firing line?" and "will she tear your little boy apart?" are standout moments. Gut wrenching.
I grew up with these albums. Dylan. Floyd. Metallica in my early teens. It was all about the Music. Nice to see you look at lyrics I didn’t really care about at 14-16. was just the Music. I bought all those Classic Metallica albums when they were released and still have those first pressings. As for Dylan. He was old in the 80s but I got a load of albums from a relative and his album John wesley harding with his iconic song all along the watchtower blew me away. The wall was one of my first cds back in 88. Loved it. Saw the movie in theatre in 88 as well.
Great job!
Syed , you are briliant !!!
First class breakdown of this masterpiece dude..👌
Really enjoying your analysis of The Wall. That last line "...did it need to be so high" is like getting hit with a bucket of ice water. I agree, the writing is superb. Great reaction!
You're very good - very nice insights into the psychology - one I lived...
Excelente analysis. O love Pink Floyd since my father showed me.
yeah i think tis not only england, but other places around the world and not just 40's 50's either later on in 70's 80's
Waters has many many lines that are gut punch lines in his writing but that last line at the end of Mother is just simple genius imo.
It only gets darker. Good stuff, Syed
I wish I found this video series like a week later. Now I actually have to wait for the parts to come out.
Love watching reactors that get “Mother”. Most don’t.
After this review series, you gotta see the film. Streaming it live on twitch would be awesome, but if that isnt possible at least see it for yourself.
The technical term you seek is "phrasing", meaning to let the instrument "talk", not like a waterfall (like shred-guitarists ;-)), but as in a conversation. Leaving space between the notes. Yeah, the similarity with hiphop's "flow" is true. When i covered some of the early songs of Eminem I realized that it is not just fast spoken words, but in a definitive rhythm.
Brilliant reaction
This album came out when I was a kid it’s very depressing but I love it
Ragazzo ...nell'analisi e nel giudizio lirico e musicale di ogni canzone non ti batte nessuno. Sei il miglior reactor del canale UA-cam
And just for fun the fictional character in this album is Mr Floyd.... "Pink" (in the phone call home from the US you can hear the operator say, its a collect call from Mr Floyd to Mrs Floyd)
This idea of Mr Floyd pops up in the track "Have a Cigar" on the album "Wish You Were Here" which in turn references people who knew nothing about the band foolishly thinking Pink Floyd was a solo artist!
By the way, which one's Pink?
Pink Floyd recorded their first album at Abbey Road Studios while The Beatles were recording ‘Sgt. Pepper’s’ in the next studio. Roger Waters was disappointed when he met John Lennon, remembering him as rude and condescending. But he was obviously still a huge influence on him. The heavy bass “Wall” theme, which you can even hear the beginnings of on ‘Animals’, comes from two John Lennon songs: “Working Class Hero” from ‘Plastic Ono Band’ and especially the second half of “I Want You (She’s So Heavy)” from The Beatles’ ‘Abbey Road’ album. If you haven’t heard them or haven’t heard them in a while, check it out. Thanks.
I can hear it! I love both songs, but never noted the similarity...She's so- ... Great. Catch.
I don't think this is an album about someone who becomes unbalanced so much as it is about alienation and dehumanization. The character Pink certainly _does_ suffer a profound emotional breakdown, but it's not an isolated situation of "chemical imbalance" or any such thing. Pink's retreat behind The Wall is a response to social forces that dehumanize.
The Wall expands on the theme of Welcome to the Machine. The work world (especially the music industry) is a Machine that crushes and deindividuates people, and insists that they do the same to others. War treats people as disposable commodities (The Anzio bridgehead was held for the price of a few hundred ordinary lives). School is a factory (as is made abundantly plain in the movie) designed to turn individual students into an undifferentiated stream of ground meat. It's not just about individual bad actors, or teachers that happened to be mean. The Wall is about how mechanistic social systems like school and industry _make_ people calloused and cruel. This insight is critically important in understanding the lyrics on side 4 where the 'surrogate band' acts out the inhuman monstrosity of carrying the demands of society to their logical conclusion.
The Wall is about the systemic, structural causes of alienation and, ultimately, evil.
Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom about becoming a man!!! US culture today has gone off the rails! Great commentary on music, as always, now your adding life coaching 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Here we go! Pink's wall is getting built by the loss of his father during WW2 (in this case Italy and Anzio beachhead), an over-protective mother that won't let him fly but might let him sing, and abusive authority figures that pour their derision upon everything he does. One of the best lines: "Mother, did it need to be so high?"
Once again, a thoughtful and insightful reaction!
I am from The States and I think you are right. It is not a double negative. It is just the way people speak.
If you have a chance, listen to both parts of When the Tigers Broke Free. It's a song Waters wrote specifically about his father's death. It's in the Wall movie, just not the album for some reason, and it's an amazing song.
I really hope you take the time to watch the movie someday. Epic.
I was born in the 50s so not so far away from Waters when i went to school the teacher could and id punish us by bending over a desk and using a plimsoll or tennis shoe an waking shit on our backsides and of course the head could cane you.One day my geography teacher caught some kids throwing water bombs about in the toilet i just happened tp be in there doing my business he dragged us all in the classroom and slippered us all despite my trying to tell him i was not involved after when all the other kids told him i was not involved without pause he replied well if he wasnt guilty for this he is probably guilty for for something else and i can tell you for sure lots of the teachers would take the piss out of the kids we had a games teacher he would draw teams up for rugby he would pick all the boys he liked who where the school tuffs on to his team and of course all the nerds an little kids on the other team an i kid you not he would make a try an if we managed to stop him he would say it was a foul an have a free kick i could go on an on i will finish with how it affected me i got caught doing something wrong an got the slipper after the teacher said now that taught you something didnt it i said yes it did it taught me not to get caught again but lest you think my school days where all bad well i was into art an music i was band captain in the school band and lead trumpet player i also had lots of my artwork display but my teachers did not know what to do with me i was the proverbial rebel on my report card it would always say Donald is a very bright boy and capable of doing well he just wont pay attention
Album just keeps getting better, the further in you get.
in musical terms, the way we place notes together is called phrasing. Think of it as how you would give a compelling soliloquy. Making a point, pause, a short statement and supporting arguments....its just like conversing through an instrument, if you choose to see it that way.
The Wall is a way of protecting oneself against a hostile world that not only bullies, but demands that you become callous to others. But by separating oneself from others for protection, the connections that lead to empathy are also severed. The Wall is a trauma response. It serves a purpose. But Mother, did it need to be so high?
In addition, sometimes those coping mechanisms we built to get ourselves through a dangerous situation later become the things which work against our present needs.
Growing up in rural Pennsylvania and going to elementary school in the mid 70's to 80s, it was common, actually, customary for teachers to have their paddles decorated, and hung proudly at the front of the classroom. The display was for any child daring to step out of line. A few did every year, if you were in that room, you witnessed the whole thing, (usually 30-35 students/room)
David Gilmour is a master of phrasing (the way he plays the guitar) He doesn’t fill space up, but instead lets it breathe.
The song Mother I think rings true for most people. "Mother's gonna put all her fears into you" .. our parents tell us not to do this or that and the consequences if we do .. your parents fears become yours... I don't see this as a dark song because most of our mothers/parents are our protectors and really act this way on one level or another.
Like I said previously, the "Happiest Days of Our Lives" and "Another Brick in the Wall (pt 2)" are almost always played together to the point that I forgot they were actually separate tracks. Glad you got to hear them together.
I’m curious Sayed, after listening to a fair amount of this classic rock and metal if hip hop is still your favorite genre?
The main character of the album is “Pink” which is a fictional solo rock star inspired by the lives of Roger Waters, David Gilmore, and Syd Barrett. So there you go 👍
Who is David Gilmore?
Oh, Dave is the guitarist. He is regarded as one of the greatest ( if not the greatest) guitarist of all time too.
@@garrettcoffey8251 oh, that's David Gilmour..
@@Nasorr1990 oh yeah I hadn’t realized my spelling error,😅 thanks for pointing that out
If you get time, PLEASE check out the last proper Pink Floyd album, which was The Final Cut. It's very much a head on dealing with the war. I believe It's even dedicated to Eric Fletcher Waters, Roger's father. If I remember right, even though he was against war, he saw the nazis for what they were and joined up to fight against them. The Gunner's Dream is gut wrenchingly beautiful.
Mother is my favorite Pink Floyd song.
The writing is absolutely insane.
Every word is crystal clear and has so much depth of meaning it’s just a masterpiece of song writing.
When he says his father crossed the ocean leaving only a memory. He is being literal. For Roger and for Pink, his father was killed by a bomb in Aprilla, north of Anzio leaving nothing behind for the family except a picture and a memory. Roger never saw his father.
The Floyd has to be listened to loud to be able to catch all the sound especially the faint background sounds. In "The Happiest Days Of Our Lives" after the line "hurt the children anyway they could." there is an audible "oof!" by Roger in one channel. If you don't hear it turn up the volume until you do and that's how it should be played.
Yes, Oink is an unreliable narrator. I think it is important that this story has been filtered to us from the memory of a disturbed individual. We are observing a character who is looking to justify closing himself off from society. His twisted perceptions will become more noticeable as the album advances and "Mother" is a good example.
Oink!
Mother is Pink Floyd's magnus opus. To me at least, today. You should listen to 1980 live version which has an extended solo and great harmonies.
Next song, Goodbye Blue Sky, is a melodic masterpiece .. ear candy :)
All right ...now go find and watch the whole movie..."The Wall" If you understand it....you will understand the psychosis, and if you take some time to digest it, you gave a good chance to care about it, avoid it for yourself, and in so doing, become a better, more understanding helpful person.
Roger Waters said: "If you can level one accusation at mothers, it is that they tend to protect their children too much. Too much and for too long. This isn't a portrait of my mother, although one or two of the things in there apply to her as well as to I'm sure lots of other people's mothers.
What David Gimour does in guitar speak is called "Phrasing"
“We don’t need no education” might be an example of Waters use of sarcasm, as obviously saying you “don’t need no” is a double negative, and could be taken as Roger saying “well actually you do need an education because at this point you’re not able to form a correct sentence!” That’s always been my take
Double negative = bad grammar = student rebellion
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You should also do a movie review of The Wall film.
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Mother, do you think they'll drop the bomb? I just went to his "This is not a drill" concert at Madison square garden in New York City where he spoke of the doomsday clock and nuclear disarmament also At the age of 15, Waters was chairman of the Cambridge Youth Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (YCND), having designed its publicity poster and participated in its organisation.
I've watched 2000 reactions to Mother and I'm still waiting for some musician to talk about the complete mess with time signature of this song, a mess that fits perfectly with the message in the lyrics. This is not a 4/4, even me can notice the change in the chorus to an "almost waltz" time signature (you can count the 1-2-3-1-2-3 pulse), but there are many more: 12/8, 9/8, 4/4, 8/8...
Pink Floyd were GENIOUS!
If you want to know what the school system was like back then, watch the film "Dead Poets Society" with Robin Williams, it's fascinating!
May I suggest, sir, that you listen to "When the Tigers Broke Free" by Pink Floyd. It goes with the Wall, actually.
One of the saddest songs I've ever heard.
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Roger’s father was killed in WWII at the battle of Anzio. Roger wrote a song specifically about his father’s death for The Wall, but they decided not to include it. It’s called “When the Tigers Broke Free” (Tigers were German tanks). The song will slap you in the face.
The description you're searching for in Gilmore's playing is "phrasing".
Does it make sense when he asks if he should run for president? I would think it wouldn't make sense as a Brit. Never did understand that one
The teachers are unhappy in their lives and hurting, so they in turn take that hurt out on the kids. It's a cycle that happens in the story several times. Hurt people, hurt people. The main character, Pink, every time he's hurt, he gets closer and closer to trying to hurt everyone else.
I’m no expert on Floyd, although they’re one of my top bands but I think it was after The Wall that Floyd broke up because Waters was exerting too much creative control and was an oppressive presence. Gilmore felt stifled.
If I’m wrong I’m sure someone will correct me who knows much more
Transitions, either between songs or within them are what Pink Floyd do.
I got caned at school, it was no deterrent, if anything it made you cool in the eyes of your peers.
The War is a leading character in this Drama. Post-war paranoia.
Mother is just beautiful but devastating. She absolutely does love him but in a toxic, smothering, and damaging way
Also I'm no Dixie Chicks fan but Natalie means does a fantastic cover of mother
Sayed… I think you said you have a masters in engineering but decided it wasn’t the right path for you.
But I’ve forgotten…..what is your career right now? I keep thinking you would love to be a sound engineer or front of house engineer
Imagine being fired on mescaline with peyote buds like i was the first time i heard this. I think i communicated with Syd Barrett, lol.
As bad as the schools were in the 40s thru the 60s, it is undeniable that they must have had superb music education.
Watch the movie The artwork with the music is fantastic to watch.
Please watch the movie "The Wall", even if you don't stream it because it adds clarity and perspective to the album.
Other than the animated parts, I disagree
@@mikemclaughlin3306 I can say that now too after decades of listening to the album and the occasional movie revisitation, but for someone watching the movie for the first time, I still think it adds perspective.
IMO, the underlying theme going on throughout the album is you cannot truly be free until you deal with your fears.. The boogeyman doesn’t exist..
Waters' father has an interesting story. In 1939 he was a Christian pacifist, and sat out the early war as a conscientious objector. But then he became active in Labour politics and became ever more radical, finally joining the British Communist Party. He dropped his conscientious objector status to fight the fascists in the British Army. He was killed in Italy in 1944, and his remains were never found.
You really really really should see the movie...
The album is art. The film Will change everybody on the planet if they ever watched it
Hi father was killed in WW2, and his father’s father was killed in WW1. War took 2 generations.
The double negative is for a purpose. It's a demarcation of that "lack" the song is so much talking about. Kind of reminds me of the Mexicans in Blazing Saddles saying "We don't need no stinking badges." So the double negative is a sign of that lack, as in even though the kids are in school, they don't give a damn about education because the abuse they're recieving. They may even know the proper expression (We don't need eduction), but are rebelling via the incorrect expression.
"We don't need no education" mwans - we don't want any education, and "it never helped us, anyway, obviously."
43 anni di another brick in the Wall .
The double negative is a hint to the quality of education.
Looking at their body of work being so meticulous the double negative has to be deliberate imo. "We don't need no education" means we need education. Today's social environment shows clearly, there's no unity without it.
Roger Waters is the main man behind most of these Floyd albums, you should check out some of solo stuff. No reaction channel ever does. Waters father was killed in the second world war and the waste of so many lives never left him. I recommend Perfect Sense and Every Strangers Eyes.
Agree..... pros and cons of hitchhiking is 1 long song and sounds more like a floyd album than momentary lapse of reason plus the added bonus of eric Clapton on guitar.... I hated radio Kaos but loves amused to death, probably because Jeff beck plays guitar on it..... and I hate the latest one.
Mother is Floyd’s best song!
Just listen syed Do the analysis after the song
My thought: "We don't need no education" is purposely grammatically incorrect and a form of protest. A middle finger to the educational establishment and societal thought control. It's implied that Waters was taught to speak proper British English (see movie version where the teacher reads his 'poetry' "money, get back, I'm alright jack, keep your hands off of my stack...) and the teacher calls it "rubbish". Peace*
Pink Floyd is in my top 3 bands ever. That being said, ABITW part 2? Ugh. It was them delving into disco and it bums me out lol. That “4 on the floor” throughout the whole song, just doesn’t do it for me.
The double negative is a sign of disgust, really. They don't want that shiznit.