Edit: Thank you Tommyinnit for watching this video and a few others on my channel!! It was really exciting (and a bit scary) to see my face in his video haha. Thanks so much!! FUCK WILBUR SOOT Thanks for all the support on this video :) Go follow @spiccytoast on twitter, who drew the character designs for Interlude 2 in this video! She's a fantastic artist and a great friend of mine. There are some corrections to things I missed/got wrong in the comments section (forgive me, it's been years since all of these streams lmao), and I appreciate all of those giving feedback. I've replied to many of them, so if you're looking for more info or a correction on something I missed, look for those replies :) Have a wonderful day. Thanks for watching!!
It's not like actually wrong but the thing you said about who the traitor was (being both Techno and Wilbur) it was revealed at the time/people came to the conclusion that dream lied, until they then all came to the conclusion oh okay it was Techno obviously. BUT THEN Dream confirms it to them like right before Schlatt dies, that the traitor was indeed Wilbur all along! OOOOO the way he says it too was so like OHHH MY GOOIFIFJ idek groundbreaking? I'm not good with words but I remember like everyone's reaction to it haha
this will help me make my video of the dsmp lore but with each character and the finally too if its ok will add you in decrtipton as one of the UA-camrs reviewing the story line
After also being a fnaf fan I’ve learned how to not be shocked by how much lore I can soak up while simultaneously not remembering my phone number or how to do basic math
One time a friend asked if Jschlatt was in the dsmp (I don't remember how that came up) and I accidentally summarized like, everything from the election arc to doomsday. And I could've given so much more detail. I'm not even active in the fandom anymore
@goosefries of course yeah I am actually really happy I always wanted a explanation idk why I thought it said 23 minutes it's actually about 4 hours long but I guess there is a lot of lore hehe
Little correction: Tommy never gave the president title to Tubbo, instead he gives it back to Wilbur who then gives it to Tubbo. This may imply that Tommy's refusal might have influenced Wilbur's decision to blow up L'manberg.
I honestly never watched the DreamSMP while it was going on because of how much second-hand embarrassment it gave me. After Techno died, I decided to give it a chance, and since then I have watched every single one of his DSMP streams. My thoughts? Oh boy, it is 1000% cringe, but I’m sure the story is what kept it going for as long as it did. Though Techno tended to be a socially inept person in general, so I may be biased after watching his POV exclusively As of now, I have been invested in the QSMP since day 1. I’m not here to say whether it’s better or worse, but for me, it lacks what made the DSMP so cringe: the content creators’ relationships. In the DreamSMP, you could tell a lot of the people weren’t actually friends. Acquaintances, yes, but outside of lore there was nothing there. On the other hand, everyone on the QSMP seems to have chemistry. There are no awkward silences; no uncomfortable moments. In the span of 9 months, almost all the creators have gone on vacation together multiple times and many of them continue to visit each-other just for fun. They’re… real friends Anyways, sorry for the long comment, but I felt like I had to point out what exactly made the DSMP cringe. The story was awesome and some of the dynamics too, but all around… the CC’s were just really awkward when they bumped into eachother and you could tell most of them weren’t friends outside of the server
@@kaleycooper9111I think the story was amazing, the characters were cool, the people behind it, some are good actors and script writers. The only thing the makes the fandom a tiny bit cringe, is all the cosplayers and those people. It’s cool but they kinda set a bad example for the fandom. Edit, also right now I’m mostly into QSMP and fanart. I also like lovejoy. So I’m not that into Dsmp anymore.
@@kaleycooper9111 in my opinion, what gave the fandom a bad name was the *certain* embarrassing and problematic fans. I joined the dsmp fandom in mid-2021 after watching some of quackity and george’s videos. (I had depression at the time) At first i thought it was a bit weird, but then i started to have fun and i met alot of really nice people and learnt alot. After that i was introduced to every other content creator. And i STILL watch majority of them. The thing is the QSMP was planned, everything was planned beforehand and that made it more easy to make a storyline. But the DSMP wasnt planned, it kinda just happened. But imo that made it more fun because the improvising and funny moments between all the creators is what came out of it. The only embarrassing part was some of the fans and especially the controversies of some creators and their fanbases. But even though it was embarrassing it was probably the most fun ive ever had and it made a huge impact on my life.
Lets be honest, nobody really knows what happened in the end of it, even EvanMC's retelling seemed like a very well done sown-together pieces of shattered glass
Hey so just a note, at 41:00 Niki actually defends Wilbur and Tommy at the festival which leads to Schlatt deciding to execute her. Wilbur steps in and she is exiled instead, joins Pogtopia, is there for Tommy and Technoblades fight etc. Also a mistake at 43:55 She defected from Manberg ON the day of the election, she wasn't the last to defect, she tried to convince Quackity to revoke his merging with Schlatt, and ended up killing him during an argument. They put her in prison and stole all her stuff, but Quackity felt bad and broke her out, with Eret covering up her escape. Wilbur wouldn't let her join Pogtopia because it was too dangerous, so she moved into Tommy's Holiday Home instead. Until the Red Festival, when she properly defected to Pogtopia as prior stated. Yes she was the streamer I watched.
I don’t want to be that person but I’m also very passionate about this stupid Minecraft server: 1:24:30 Tommy didn’t mean to burn down George’s house. He recruited Ranboo to steal from George. Items which Ranboo kept for the entire run of the DSMP. They played around with flint and steel as a joke and it got out of hand. And they quickly built what they could immediately after meaning there really wasn’t that damage in the end. Any damage there was, George fixed in about 5 minute. Why does this matter? Because C!Dream acts like Tommy maliciously demolished George’s house when it was really a quick fix. The fact that most of the fandom remembers, falsely, that Tommy meant to burn it, shows how successful Dream was in pushing as much blame on Tommy as possible. Giving him an excuse to exile him. “Oh but Dream only wanted him exiled after he burned Spirit!” Nay I say! His IMMEDIATE reaction to Tommy lightly grazing George’s house with fire was, “Exile him.” Check the vod!! It’s almost an immediate suggestion! For something that wasn’t even that bad! He was just finding an excuse to exile him the entire time and I will DIE on this hill!
/rp Dream didn't mind canceling Tommy's exile and he and Tubbo were about to sign papers to give Tommy a simple probationary period as punishment, but then Tommy began to threaten to burn Spirit's skin if he didn't leave Tommy completely unpunished and didn't do what they said. At first, Dream listens to him and even begins to tear down the obsidian wall, but then he realizes that Tommy will be able to use the skin of his dead horse against him forever and the "Spirit Speech" occurs. Yes, Dream insisted on exile and was very angry right after George's house was burned down, but what would you do in his place? The house of your friend, who is also the king of your country, is attacked by the vice president of another country. Also, despite the fact that George did not take the situation seriously, in a private conversation with Dream, he specifically hinted at how the situation offended him and how he wanted Tommy to be punished. Dream's feelings in this situation are absolutely clear. It doesn't matter what Tommy and Ranboo wanted to do in the first place if they end up burning down half the house + how would Dream know about Tommy's motives? I'm sure it probably sounded better in your head, but how can you look at a situation where your enemy burned down your friend's house and think, "Oh, that probably wasn't malicious"? Dream can't read minds I think Dream obviously had ulterior motives behind wanting to specifically exile Tommy (he needed to get the disc from Tubbo for the staged finale + Tommy had declared countless wars against him since his first day on the server and talked crap to his friends), but he definitely wasn't some psychopath who targeted Tommy for no reason or had absolutely no reason to want Tommy to be punished in the first place. Or at least here we're talking about canon Dream, not Dream from sbi fanfics
Thank you for the feedback! I must have remembered it wrong -- so you're completely right that it shows how Dream's blame affected even the fandom perception of the event. Appreciate your comment.
@@kurkarl214 this is six months late but i also remember a stream, a captain puffy stream wherein she and cdream go around greifing people and leaving signs making it seem like it was tommy, specifically framing tommy for multiple incidents prior to him and ranboo accidently burning george's house. showing that cdream was preplanning to frame and exile tommy before george's house, that stream wasnt ever saved so you can't find it anymore.
Man, way to change my perspective on an entire fandom with one video. Holy shit. I initially clicked on this video to listen to it in the background while I worked on my school assignments. I sent a link to my friends, we clowned on DSMP fans a bit, and ultimately asked "Why would anyone bother to make a *four hour video* about this sort of content?" I suppose that, in the moment, I had forgotten myself. A gacha life user, a BATIM fan since day one, a FNAF admirer, an author of my own silly little stories - I'd forgotten for the sake of some mean-spirited jokes. I went into this expecting another video essay I wouldn't pay much attention to, something I would forget in a matter of moments. Instead, I watched all four hours in one sitting, my eyes glued to the screen, becoming more and more invested in this story that, just earlier today, would have rolls my eyes at in dismissal. Will I check out the DSMP for myself? Likely not. That's a lot of content to sift through, and as someone who's prone to intense hyperfixations, I don't want o give up my life to another piece of media yet lmao. But another thing I'll never do is laugh at a DSMP fan again. Sure, it's a cringey Minecraft roleplay, so what? Who am I to say that it's wrong to enjoy something? Why shouldn't I apply my fandom mindset to this? "If it's not illegal, if it's not hurting anyone, what does it matter?" I expected to be talked at for four hours about a fandom I couldn't care less about, but instead, I walked away with my perception of fandom entirely changed. I thank you for that. I think deep down, we're all our own unfinished symphony.
standing ovation. (also i wanna add my own bit onto this. watching this and rewatching everything i used to love back in 2020, makes me so happy. it was cringe, it was annoying, but i was so happy back in quarantine. it's nice to relive that)
1:18:00 I just wanna say that the fanfiction of the dsmp fandom is so big as a genre that ao3 was actually forced into making a whole new tag JUST for dsmp, it’s happened early 2022 and now ever since the Minecraft tag is just for Minecraft the game fanfic and the dsmp and other smp tags are for the roleplays. Also as a fanfic author myself I can say that the fandom writings themselves are not dead and people continue to make amazing works, both for the canon story and for AUs like Passerine
2:10:14 I actually have a physical written out by hand transcription of this scene- "You used me as a weapon, you've never thought of me as a friend, you've just used me from the start. You saw me as 'The Blade' that's all I was to you, 'The Blade', a weapon." [...] "You were our friend! And you know what-" "You never thought of me as a friend Tommy." "Techno, for once in your life listen to me: you were my friend." "I listened to you for weeks! And what did you do? You went back to Tubbo! The guy that exiled you, that chose his country over you." "Techno, people are above the government. We-" "I'M A PERSON!!" "You are, Techno! And so are we! The discs-" "DISCS AREN'T PEOPLE!!" I have so many thoughts about these two and this are and this scene and augh! They're always talking past each other and it's so tragic
I wasn't really planning on watching the entire video in one sitting. but here I am, 4 hours later, crying to this... I seriously can't thank you enough for helping me remember how much this story meant to me. I stuck around with the dream smp (tommy's pov, at least) until the very finale. I refused to watch the ending because of,, REASONS... But after it ended,, I really couldn't find it in myself to look back at any of it in a fond way... especially after it left SUCH a bad taste in my mouth... (plus some of the content creators making you feel "lesser than" for caring about the story they were telling or sometimes using the lore as "damage control" didn't really help). Every now and then i would tell my online friends "I miss the dsmp" in a joking way, and it would get all of us to laugh because of how ABSURD that sounded... but after all of this time.. and hearing the story again. reMEMBERING how it made me feel watching it... it felt surreal almost... like.. damn,, maybe i do miss some parts of it... which feels crazy for me to say... but is it really?? This server has been a part of my life since... well... the 4th of July 2020... I was a Tommyinnit fan before he even joined the server (I found Techno in 2019 thanks to Minecraft Mondays, Found Wilbur through him, and later got into Tommy's content during smpEarth in December of 2019 which is like 8 months before he joined the dsmp...) and i can safely say I've probably watched almost every Stream you mentioned, from Tom's pov, live... I was an artist, and most notably an Editor, in the dsmp ig community. I've met what are now some of my best friends thanks to this damn server... And to this day still follow some content creators that were a part of it (mainly Purpled lmao) In this past year I completely tried to distance myself from all of the joy it used to bring me mainly because of some of the content creators on it being weirdos (dream). which is something i really don't want to gloss over... But I feel like I can't let that overshadow completely the amounts of care and work i put into making content, edits, drawings,, I was mainly interested in the story and since my main language isn't English, it literally helped me get better at it, which is always something fun to look back on. Since I'm European I would cancel nights out with friends just to watch streams,, I'm 19 that sounds kinda silly to me now,, but this story used to be my everything at some point... It meant SO MUCH TO ME. I cried watching many of the streams,, and, fun fact, I also had to tell my mum about ctommy dying on the 1st of march 2021,, and that's HOW YOU KNOW.... and i really hate to look back on such a huge part of my life (from age 15 to 19) solely in a negative light. And i can thank you partially for helping in changing that. I hope that many ex-Dsmp fans come across this video and get as excited as I did hearing you re-explain what happened on November 16th 2020.. or the exile arc.. or THE DISC FINALE!!...... GOSHHHH. Durning many parts of the video i found myself pausing and shouting "YOU GET IT!!!!!" over and over again. I also was VERYYY attached to ctommy and ccrimeboys as a dynamic. I related to cTommy a lot... and it really sucks the story ended that way.. but I also can't blame them TOO MUCH.. as having to wrap up, what is possibly the most confusing,, inconsistent, complicated (but yet beautiful) story ever made in just a few streams sounds like a challenge and a half. Still cTommy's character will forever remain probably my favorite character EVER moving forward.. it helps that there is so much content of him, because there are layers and layers to that guy, it's actually insane.... (btw the only stuff I think you failed to mention was Dream's Prison escape, with Techno's help.. Ranboo's perma death.. and some other stuff in the Las Nevadas lore. but I also understand that you were more focused on ccriemeboys,, which don't worry i was too. so I can't blame you) but yeah.. ok.. sorry for the long message, I'm not really good at organizing my thoughts so it's just a mess of words put together without any sense or meaning,,,. which i apologize for... but. long story short: THANK YOU. really, thank you for making this video. sending love, you're amazing!!
This comments feels like reading exactly about my experience with the dsmp 😭 I'm glad this video was cathartic for you. I was really hoping to tap into that with this video, help some people (and myself!) kill the inner cringe that you might have ever liked dream smp. It was important! It was inconsistent and complicated, like you said, but it was also so ... human, and amazing, and there will never be anything like it again. I know exactly what you mean about being made to feel lesser for ... giving a shit about a story that meant a lot to people?! That was crazy, but I don't care anymore. I love the lore :) I was (and still am) super attached to ccrimeboys as well -- this video barely scratches the surface of my thoughts about them -- and cTommy was a source of comfort and relatability for me when I was the same age as him and similarly confused about my place in the world. I agree that he'll probably remain one of my favorite characters for a LONG, long time to come. He's so three-dimensional, it's crazy, and I know that the ending wasn't what was originally meant for him, which breaks my heart. Thank you again for the comment. Knowing this video delivered what I wanted to at least one person makes all of the work that went into it worth it.
It fills my heart with so much joy to see someone who cares about something like the DSMP the way you do. I've been watching Minecraft roleplays since like 2010, back when watching silly Minecraft videos were pretty niche or "only something a loner would do" (although I guess that connotation still kind of lives on today lol), so it's been absolutely surreal to see the scale that DSMP grew into, that it became big enough to break through mainstream. It feels that times have truly changed for the better knowing that something like the DSMP gave so many kids the opportunity to connect with other kids who loved the same thing, when I could only imagine having someone to rant about my CC's character to. Thank you for caring, dude.
things i saw live but forgot happened that are actually pretty metal: 1. Quackity, at jschlatt's funeral, rips out the heart of his toxic late husband's corpse, and eats it in front of everyone 2. Jack Manifold having all three of his canon lives taken and not die, just for death to swallow him in the middle of the street, he experiences hell itself, and then through sheer rage alone, CLAWS himself out of hell and back to the land of the living
sometimes I make fun of myself for liking the dsmp so much in 2020-2021 but honestly it got me through the worst time of my life and got me to actually do things. I dont know where I would be without it. thank you for making this video it really made me think about how far ive come.
having an absolute blast listening to you explain the dsmp lore bcz the more you get into it the faster you talk and its CLEARLY all off the cuff. OBSESSED. this is making me want to do my own deep dive video soooooo baaaaad
wow. i’m in a weird headspace after watching this. i feel like this video was such a cathartic experience for me. dsmp was so important for me, it is the reason i am an artist and writer and i often looked back on it with embarrassment or cringe that the fact that my first art was of ctommy or cwilbur or cdream. i spent the last week watching old animatics and getting re attached to these characters (particularly ctommy and cranboo and cwilbur and ctubbo) so this video came at a time when i was already reflecting on dsmp and those experiences ive realized how important those characters were to me and how they’re still important to me. i still love these little block guys and this beautiful little story changed my life, even if i stopped watched a lot of the streams at the end, and really dislike a few of the creators (dream sapnap) and i hated the ending. the ending to me felt like it went against the whole story of ctommy and his experience, his abuse, and most importantly his healing. this comment feels like a really long winded way to say thank you? i’ve gone a bit in circles but thank you for reminding me that even though this story had flaws, it’s okay that it was important to me, and it’s okay that i still hold it and the characters i love dearly. anyways, i think im going to go watch some more fan songs and animatics, and maybe draw some ctommy art.
I feel pretty similar, dream smp was super important to me because it was 2020, quarantine sucked, and I was pretty miserable (as I'm sure most people were, 2020 was a bad year.) To me dream smp was kind of an escape from that, something for me to be invested in. But it was more than that still. All of my friends were huge fans of it at the time and it was something I connected with them a lot over. Sharing fanart and fanfics we liked, freaking out over lore together, reacting to the streams in real time... sometimes I wonder if I miss dream smp or I miss the friends I had and the memories we had because of it. But I think end of the day it was both. There's a lot of good memories there.
I think the MASSIVE piece of lore you missed at the end was the Syndicate? Because this was a huge thing you never mentioned 😂 Technoblade turned up at Niki's Underground City to invite her to help him, but she refused because it was before the nuke test. Afterwards, however, she agreed and so her, Phil, and Techno started the Syndicate. Ranboo was spying on them so they had him join them so he wouldn't tell anyone. They had a cool lava base and their table was the Ender Portal. I remember when during their second meeting Phil told everyone Tommy had been killed in prison and Techno and Niki laughed in his face and said if it was still true tomorrow they'd believe it. They did a bunch of things, mostly scouting out places. They held Techno a birthday party (this part happened after the revival and what I'm about to mention, I remember that because this is where Niki learnt of it). Techno got locked in prison with Dream for 2 months! Because Phil misread his instructions, he actually meant two days. Ranboo got thrown in prison by Sam for his affiliation with them so the three remaining members broke him, Dream, and Connor (in jai for using a fake ID at a Chick-Fil-A) out. Niki set of Withers, Phil stole them horses etc. Connor joined the Syndicate after that. RANBOO WAS KILLED AND LOST HIS FINAL CANON LIFE. This was sort of Jack's last straw (because Niki was exposed for working with Techno) as she was the last person he felt he could trust. He confronted her afterwards and although they made up and stayed close, he sort of decided he had to go through with their original plan. Connor also loses his final canon life during Wilbur's Apology Tour (a long while afterwards, the prison break happened before this) and becomes a ghost with a pet red sheep named Rosie. Also there was a bunch of mystery over this anonymous final member of the group, eventually revealed to be Kristen, the Goddess of Death and Phil's wife, who saves them from the nuke at the end of the story. The only survivors are Connor's ghost, Rosie, Niki, Phil and Kristen.
thank you so much. this genuinely helped me forgive myself for feeling like caring about this story was cringe or a bad quality about myself. i’ve always looked back on the lore with fond memories but felt absolutely awful when i was shamed for even asking about sharing it to others. i feel honestly healed right now, thank you. this meant so much.
This was uploaded at the perfect time for my new hyperfixation, time to watch it all in one sitting Edits for timestamps: 1:20:40 beginning of season 2 2:48:26 beginning of season 3 3:33:48 beginning of season 4
Earlier today i literally said to myself "man, i really wish i knew the dsmp lore, but i dont want to have to watch the 80+ hours of VODS :( i wish there was like a lore explaining video i could watch to cover all of it" And then A FEW HOURS LATER I STUMBLE UPON THIS VIDEO- Seriously thank you so much for this, i cant believe i found this today of all days.
First of all thank you for your video. English is not my first language but i try my best. I found out about dsmp year ago and got reccomeded videos from but i didn`t quite understend what they were about. So i started to watch a channel called blueberry, so i can catch up with lore. And GOD it was amazing to watch. I watch all the 1 and 2 season but never futher, because qsmp started and watch it instead. But back then i was really obsessed with dsmp and speak for hours to my friend about it. The fanarts and animation of it is something incredible and beautiful. Wathing so many people be passionate about it and create evem now such wonderful things is crazy. And watching your video and finding out the rest of is crazy too. I even burst into tears at some points because you talked with such enthusiasm. It really shows how you care about this and helps me to remember how i cared back then. So many things changed since that time but this story is still like a comfort place despite of all. Damn, a relly long comment sorry..... but again thank you for taking your time and tall us about this
1:17:33 niki actually read passerine on an alt stream in 2021!! i remember it so clearly, it was so so nice seeing a cc read and enjoy the fic and the vod is still one of my favorites to this day
OMG 4 HOURS WORTH OF LORE EXPLAINING??? MAAM I ADMIRE UR DEDICATION whenever I try to explain to my(not so interested)friends I just end up summing everything in a nutshell and it becomes smth like “and dream was pissed at tommys existence so yada yada he beat the child to death with a potato the end” ALSO U HAVE NO IDEA HOW HAPPY I AM TO SEE A VERY DSMP RELATED VIDEO IN 2024 I MISS THE SMP ty for this (I sound so SO dumb but idc I rlly missed this fandom)
CONGRATZ ON THE SHOUT OUT FROM TOMMYINNIT BRO, He seemed so surprised cause it was 4hours ,which made me question my life cause i sat and watched this in one sitting.....
1:04:03 just wanted to point out that Technoblade got higher concurrent viewers than that on a couple occasions, I can't find great data but multiple screenshots were posted from his "It ends today" stream with over 800K viewers, with Techno himself posting a screenshot with the peak over 850K. This wasn't on Twitch so it wouldn't have been on the highest viewed twitch stream records, but it did happen, so I thought it was important to mention! Love the video so far btw, it's very engaging even for someone who was there for most of this lore!
all my friends said they’d explain it eventually but they never did. i was the only person in my group who wasn’t hyperfixated on it. however i did watch techno blades last stream it was pretty good. haven’t watched the video yet but with the large ammount of conflicting lore and just large amounts of lore in general , very cool that you were able to put it all in a video!! i would 100% make a 4 hour long video about the life series , none of it would make sense i would just ramble for hours.
My headcanon for the Tubbo horns comes from a similar place to yours, I saw this post on the DSMP Reddit once where it was theorized that instead of Schlatt being Tubbos father instead Tubbo was part Moobloom (a version of the Mooshroom with flowers instead of mushrooms that was in a mob vote) which is why he’s so drawn towards bees and things like that which has always stuck with me and I can’t find the original post anywhere.
28:22 A bit nitpicky, but to flesh out and clarify what happened precisely with the election results: When Jschlatt first entered the running, Quackity posed an idea to Wilbur that should they both loose, they would pool their votes in a coalition party to give them a second chance at winning... But it would mean Quackity would replace Tommy as Wilbur's vice president, so he rejected the idea. So then Quackity offered a similar deal to Jschlatt, that they would pool their votes to ensure he still had a chance at winning. Jschlatt agreed.
I just wanted to say because ive been thinking about this since January- this made me cry and the way you told the story was absolutely amazing. Like standing ovation. Beautiful. Yes. I wish i could explain better but just. Yes. Thank you. The meta lore bits too like top notch omg. I finished this and couldnt fuction properly for the rest of the day i just walked around aimlessly trying not to like start bawling. Man the rollercoaster this video prompted was the actual best thing dude its almost been a year but i still think about that day
I watch this video every time I miss the DSMP (or at least that time in my life) because it's the best video on the topic, mostly because of the care and time taken to talk about WHY it was so special to people and WHAT was happening outside of the streams.
I found this in my recommended and I was absolutely stunned, I remember watching your color symbolism video years ago, man. It's kind of crazy to think that the DSMP's been around for that long. This video was cathartic to me. I've been revisting the dsmp constantly the past few months since my life's been on and off for a bit. I kept telling myself I'd leave it behind after the nuke finale(and then they made the Syndicate finale, then the real finale), but I keep coming back to it. It's been really hard to leave it behind, I want to grow up and move on but I don't want to let go of that part of me. Maybe that's why I keep rewatching all the lore, because I'm looking back so I don't have to look forward, I don't know, I'll find out eventually. Thank you for treating the story with the honest respect and dignity I feel it deserves. I genuinely love the SMP and the storyline(except for some bits like the nuke finale which feels more and more like it was supposed to set up a reboot and not be a narrative conclusion in retrospect), and it's kind of refreshing to see it done some justice. I remember the good and the bad of the fandom and even though I didn't really get into it until the New L'Manberg/Doomsday arc, I've loved it ever since. I liked seeing Tommy's character growth mirror his growth as a person, and watch it mirror my own. As conflicted as I am about season 3(it has it's good moments though, Ranboo becoming a central character was great), Tommy's depressive state was one I shared with him. His character kept talking about yearning for the past and not feeling good anymore, and I was going through a period in my life where I felt the same, whether it be with the SMP or just life in general. It didn't make me feel better, but it gave me some agency to my pain. Eventually, I started getting better, and it started to feel like watching the server was a fun, chill activity again. One of the things I liked about season 4 was it embraced it's own oblivion. With the fandom died down, it just felt more chill. No grandiose threats, no convoluted plotlines, no pointless character depression, just introspection, rumination and storytelling. Wilbur's redemption arc is one of my favorite parts of the entire SMP and Quackity's Las Nevadas empire shit actually got interesting around the end. What I'm trying to say is, the server evolved to fit my emotional state. The fandom is perpetually mixed, but I'm always going to view it with a positive light. I loved watching Sad-ist's awesome as shit animations, I loved how heartfelt and raw the Late August animatics are, I loved the fanart, I loved Scorpia's stuff, I enjoyed listening to Lonely King, I read so many comics(and to this day am scrounging for a fucking copy of Unfinished Symphony), I cried reading the Passerine saga(even when I didn't watch dsmp). It's like you said, so many people cared, and that's what makes it beautiful. I cared. I cared so much. And thank you for reciprocating that, for understanding that, for respecting that. It means the world to me. I remember when people starting calling Dream Smp cringe and I know it's ridiculed to this day, but even so, I couldn't help but love it. It taught me to grow up, to move on, to understand the world is dark and complicated as it happened to me. I felt alone in that regard, it felt like I was the only one who liked it anymore. I got slightly bullied for that. I still kind of do, to a lesser degree, but hey. Part of what makes it so captivating, I think, is it's operation at a metatextual level. Focusing on c!crimeboys alone(because let's be real, they're the best part of the damn server), we watched Tommy and Wilbur mature and reflect on their mistakes. at the end, Tommy started yearning for a simpler, easier, time, to go back to childhood(that monologue he had on Wilbur's "Tower" stream gets to me, and how he told Wilbur they needed to get the L'manberg gang back together when Wilbur left), and it works because he was growing up, his audience was growing up alongside him, and Dream Smp was getting more and more complex with increasing numbers of creators getting backlash and harassment and hate and drama and I hate every second of those things. I hated being made fun of for liking dsmp's narrative because Dream cheated on his speedrun or some shit. Wilbur spends his entire redemption arc reckoning with the people he hurt in the past and regretting what could've been. At the end, when they and we grow up, we're both propelled by the past, when what we needed to do was to let go, move on, and cherish what we had. It's part of why the nuke finale's always going to be fixed for me: it vindicates Tommy's obsession with the past and things being simple again, and erases the history and past that drive the characters, but that one part--wanting things to be simple again--is powerful. I don't like how it's executed, but I like it in concept. I can't help, however, feel some kind of lingering regret from it. What happens with Karl in Tales? Did he disable the tnt? Who is Harpocrates? I have the same sentiment about the finale not being..very good, don't redeem Dream, so my headcanon ending is Tommy on the path to healing after Wilbur leaving, repairing his broken relationships and eventually starting a life away from Dream while all Dream has is an empty SMP, an empty kingdom of nothing and no one, doomed to one day be forgotten(inspiration from Stampy's finale). There's parts of it I have ideas for, like the ending is Tommy and Tubbo listening to the discs during one last sunrise, and Tommy finding a disc in Techno's house(both are ideas from his last stream). It doesn't matter if I find it disappointing. You make your own truth. Even though I don't know you, I want to say thank you for giving voice to all the feelings I had about the smp into this video. It means so much to both us, and I'm going to miss it. It made me care about storytelling, got me interested in political science, helped me discover a bunch of cool fanartists, introduced me to Technoblade, hell, it introduced me to Tommy and Wilbur and I still follow those two, Wilbur especially. It's fun to listen to his music all these years and he got me into Los Campesinos! which is now my favorite band, there's so much positive good. It'll be hard to let go. Honestly I probably should. But letting go and moving on doesn't mean not cherishing what I had, like I said. I had a genuine love for this SMP and never agreed with the concept of a "dsmp phase," because it was never really a phase for me, it was something more important. It was more meaningful than that. You talked about how it was about love for you, and I believe you can still carry love with you even if you move on and grow up. That's part of what makes people good people. It's a fond memory, and it'll stay that way. So, thank you. It might be jarring to get a comment this personal and open about a block game roleplay, but hell, I feel like this video made me feel raw, and open, and heartfelt, because it was such. One day, I'm gonna grow up and I'll leave it behind in the future once I start seriously turning my life around. I'm gonna miss it, and it's hard, but I gotta grow up anyway. I hope I see you in the future, I hope your future's bright, and I hope mine is too. I'll be good, and when I'm not, I will be soon enough, and I will believe the same about you. Carry on, love always. and remember, if this is all blown up and you have a thousand men by your side, if you have all the best pvpers, if Technoblade is with us or not, it's always you and me, versus Dream, and even if it's not there anymore, there was a special place, there was..
Thank you so, so much for this comment. It made me tear up a little -- writing this, I still have a lump in my throat, haha. I agree with many of your thoughts on the DSMP and its growth and evolution, especially considering that I (and a lot of other viewers) were teenagers when it was still going on. That's a tumultuous time, and it was really nice for me to have a constant like the DSMP that I could hold onto then. For most of my life, media has been something to cling to when I was unsure of myself, and so I, like you, have a lot to owe DSMP for helping me through those years. (Love your ideas for the finale, also. Some of my thoughts follow very similar lines of thinking :)) I don't know you either, but it's beautiful that my video was able to connect with you in this way. I never thought that my video talking about one of my favorite pieces of media would affect so many people like this, but I'm really glad it did, since making this video certainly helped me come to terms with a lot about the DSMP in general. (Los Campesinos! is one of my favorite bands, too. Thanks for lending me your music taste, Wilbur Soot.) I really appreciate your earnesty and, again, I'm so happy this video made an impact on you. I hope I see you in the future as well -- happy new year, by the way! -- and I'll remember this comment (might have to hang it up on my wall lol)! Love always :)
I'm really glad you could have the effect on me, Happy New Year to you as well! I hope to see you in the future as well and I'm honored to be considered as an addition to your wall!@@kurkarl214
@@kurkarl214 Damn it, wanna come back here. My feelings about the fandom are really weird after all of Wilbur's shit. It's been hard to process how someone so integral to why I loved the SMP is a horrible person. It's so much worse than the Dream drama since Dream never had a bearing on why I cared about the SMP. It's so strange knowing that someone whose art genuinely helped me become a better person is a shitty person in reality. It's strange that the man who taught me the value of recognizing my faults and becoming better can't do either. I haven't really watched it since and I genuinely think I'm moving on from it. I don't hate it, and I guess I miss it sometimes, I don't know. It's just really hard and for once it hurts to feel nostalgic for something. I miss it so much but now I know I shouldn't go back to it. I've been trying to move away from fandoms in general, just trying to live life. I love the SMP, but part of it kept me stuck in the past, stuck in COVID, when I should just be out living life. I don't think I'll come back to it but I wouldn't regret it for the world. I just hope it's the same for you, I don't know. Love always.
:] its so nice seeing ppl fall in love with the dmsp again even after time has passed. despite how things ended up, it was a product of community and love, and ill always remember the fun among all the hell. tysm for going thru the effort of remembering all the details and summarizing what has now become lost media (impossible to experience again since all the vods and fan content are scattered across the internet) it really is a show of how the dsmp was an accidental miracle of its time. i wish all ex dsmp-ers a wonderful life, im glad we could all be fans of the same thing, at one point in time
YOO THANKS FOR EXPLAINING!! The DSMP was a massive part of my 2020-2022 years, i remember looking forward to every single SAD-IST animatic and DSMP streams, sad to say this is a blast from the past
17:01 small correction - pretty sure tommy actually pressed the button! of course, eret meant to press the button, but before they could do their speech, tommy got curious and pressed it.
im not apart of this fandom anymore, but i know for a fact this video NEEDS a like bc holy shit, the DSMP lore is absolutely insane. like props to you bro, this is crazy
i watched the dsmp from july 2020 to the end. the nostalgia is a completely unexplainable thing that i haven’t experienced so intensely with literally anything else in my entire life. maybe i hyperfixated too hard… (0°0)
Passerine (I think that’s how it’s spelled) was so good my older sibling who interacts with zero (0) mcyt anything read it, liked it, AND RECOMMENDED IT.
damn never watched dsmp, and thought it was always cringe but this video really changed my perspective on it, you talked about it with such passion, though a lot of the creators were problematic the story told wasn’t and it gave so much hope to those suffering through the quarantine. It’s amazing how something that started of so small could mean so much to people. Amazing video !!! :D
Thank you so much for reminding how great and amazing the lore was!!! dream smp was an amazing era for me atleast. It was very unhealthy too though because they stream mostly 2-4am to me, I get that people get cringe about hearing the name and seeing at least scraps of it I did have some cringe moments for me because I'm older now but I just realized that I should just be proud and be happy that I was part of something that I'm so PASSIONATE about! dsmp will always gonna be a part of me. I also focused on Tommy's perspective through out the lore he was my MC in the story (along side wilbur I love him sm!) his story will always gonna be one of my favorites. All of the characters in the dsmp was amazing and well written! That era will always gonna be one of my best era on my life tbh. This is one of the best piece of media that ever made (for me at least 🥹) Watching them grow throughout the years and looking back right now to them I'm so proud and happy for them so muchhhh🥹. I started re-watching and visited some videos that I really loved and I came across this video so THANK YOU SO MUCH! for reminding and making me feel I'm not alone about on how I feel about dsmp. Dsmp means a lot to me aswell because I was there when the first Lore stream was ever streamed. I remember the hype and excitement I felt when they revealed eret was the traitor! Trying not to scream because I might wake anyone up. It was just an amazing feeling and Its just so sad because I will never get to experience that feeling again, but I'm glad I get to experience that I'm happy that I was part of something that I was really passionate and happy about. Thank you DSMP.
Unfortunately I missed out on the dream SMP but I think based on this video it's interesting. I also love how fans cared so much about it and it really demonstrated all the wonderful aspects of fandom. Especially when a lot of fandoms tend to be viewed negatively and sometimes that drives people away from the source of the fandom. For example my ex never gave undertale the chance because of the fandom. But watching this video empathize on how a piece of media brought people together and how meaningful it is to have fandom and general creating stories . Especially when many stories today feel artificial and lack that connection and creativity (*cough cough* Disney).
I finished this video and just let myself cry my eyes out. This had really rekindled my love for the dsmp, which is really insane because I felt so vindictive towards that time in my life. I never wanted to look back on it, it felt so shameful to me. But right now I just really want to care and love it so much. I've never forgotten about how much this meant but I also didn't let myself enjoy it. I dont let myself enjoy alot of things. I debated commenting on this video, especially since it feels really messy and dumb but I'm rambling on like this just because I want to be here and experience it. I'm so thankful for this video. I'll always remember this.
i feel the exact same way. i dropped it early 2022, and ever since i'd always felt bitter and regretful about that time of my life. but recently i've felt overwhelmingly nostalgic and this video really felt like it unlocked those repressed emotions in me. maybe it wasn't perfect. maybe i feel bad about supporting people that didn't deserve it, whether i knew at the time or not. but i loved it so, so much, and i don't want to deny that anymore. sorry for rambling like this under your comment thats 2 months old, it just felt comforting to see someone with a similar reaction LOL
1:57:48 This is only subtly relevant, because I am so obsessed with Ranboo and Techno's arc together and it sets things up for them in the future - after the Butcher's Army's failed exile Ranboo actually ends up Right Back At Techno's House, and they, Techno, and Tommy hang out and chat for a while, with Techno holding the looming threat of murder over Ranboo's head to make him return the armor New L'Manburg stole from him in their kidnapping. Anyways! The thing about that scene is when Tanboo says he only came along because he sucks with peer pressure and Techno is like "lmao same". Then Techno tells Rnaboo that L'Manburg uses people, that's what they do. And Ranboo goes "wait what they do what now?" and Techno's like "dude. You were literally just pressured into kidnapping and murder" and Ranboo is like "oh wow. Yeah. I was." And this sows the seeds of anarchy in Ranboo's mind I think, and set Techni up to not hold a grudge against him despite being secondnonly to Quackity in vengeance, that ultimately leads to Ramboo being able to live with Phil and Techno in the tundra, and eventually becoming a member of the Syndicate
I loved watching this as if i dont know like every aspect of lore, but the interludes were really cool since i didnt have twitter at the time so learning abt the aspects of the comunity on twitter was so cool and you made it really entertaining!!! thank you !!!
I've watched dsmp in the middle of the disc war and i honestly never understood the full lore. I miss the old days,and it's never bad to go back and remember the good old times while finally finding out stuff i forgot or never knew :]
four hours. four hours. jesus fucking christ. I feel obligated to watch this even though the only part of dsmp lore i care about is anything about philza's character lmao. thanks for the video and the effort m8!!
1:55:45 "PHIL!! WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU!!?" Techno was NOT pleased at all with that haha (Phil is like his number one priority next to anarchy. Do Not Mess With Phil)
THANK YOU??? i really didnt want to watch the dsmp (autism and issues with second hand embarrassment and attention span) but i had a revival of love for a few of the creators. this was so helpful. bless u omg..
I have now watched this in one sitting way too late at night and ohhhmyyyGODDDDDD I forgot about such a passionate feelings i had about the dsmp and c!wilbur. This video kept my attention the whole time, 10/10 and thank you.
I felt forced to stop watching dsmp content because of the controversies surrounding the streamers, which got me harassed. So I think it’s unfair and childish to take something that means a lot to someone. (to me dsmp was for the most part rly comforting cuz I could relate to some characters) in my case it’s even worse cuz it’s not just some hate online, which wouldn’t have changed anything for me, it was family members who threatened not talking with me again because of it. After all this time I still want to watch content related to it to bring back memories, thank you for your work 💖
i never was in the fandom, matter of fact, i didnt want to since i was super afraid i might be cringe. Now i regret it, i missed such an experience just because i wanted to be socially accepted by people who already hate me. But i cant fret it cause im not a timetraveller.
I love the little detail how you dressed up as canon tommy in the beginning, then ‘ fanon’ Tommy. I love the way that in the first ‘ act ‘ you wore just the simple red shirt - then changed into the more “ fanon “ design for Tommy. Idk just a small thing 🤷. Also, if someone’s already said this I’m sorry😓😓
Hey! Dunno if you remember my comment, I just wanted to say congrats on getting into Tommy's video! That's awesome! Really glad you're getting attention proper for it, you deserve it. (As for what I said about Wilbur I've taken time to process it and I feel better now. It doesn't completely tarnish my memory and there's still genuine good that came out of being in the fandom. I've been learning to try and take the bad with the good and I've been doing better about it.) Carry on, love always and it's me and you versus dream
hi yeah so i just watched this entire thing and i really really do not regret it. thank you for making this video, it was like,, going down memory lane, in a way. for me, i still care an ABSURD amount abt the dmsp. it means so so so much to me, even to this day. and frankly i dont care if its 'cringe' these days (cringe isnt even real), i keep writing fanfic abt it and thinking abt it because it just *means so much to me*. the dsmp literally changed me as a person; i would not be who i am today. c!tommy is literally my favourite character of all time. i do not regret a single second of consuming content related to this silly minecraft roleplay. its just so fucking important to me. so yeah, thank you for this video! its nice to see that people still care so much abt this smp (:
Oh man, it's been a while since I've thought about DSMP but with the new upload on Techno's channel, I dove back in and it's like a wave of it all is crashing back into my brain. I always followed the story from the POV of either Techno or Ranboo so it's super interesting to hear how things played out on Tommy's end! Thank you for making this video, it's a really good example of how the server is still important to people, even after all this time and everything that happened.
this video is awesome, it helped me so much to understand the lore because i started knowing and getting interested about the dsmp pretty late in the timeline. I always wanted to live the experience of sharing the lore moments with people who are also very excited about it, and genuinely you made me feel like i was watching it live, it was crazy the amount of emotion you brought me and i admire that a lot. Thank you so much, it shows that you put a lot of effort into this video and that you are really passionate, and that gives confident to try and be more open about what i like. Best dsmp recap i've seen pd. I don't know if since you published this video you've watched it but i really think you'd like las nevadas lore, and it's enough to watch the two videos of it on quackity's channel to understand it and get into it. I just like a lot as well the quackity and slimecicle duo, and the character growing in las nevadas is crazy.
dsmp completely changed my brain chemistry, traditional media is so boring now since the dsmp had So Many storylines and such depth to some of the characters (usually thanks to the fandom making headcanons and whatnot that added to them) i dont think ill ever get tired of mc rp now bc of it...
have you watched the VOD jack has on his channel? the one with c!tommy lore? it absolutely broke me. ‘are you happy?’ ‘getting there.’ C!TOMMY😭😭😭 i miss him so much
Phenomenal video wow, I really don't know how to explain what kind of emotions I went through when I watched this. I smiled, laughed, and screamed so many times that it took me back to when Dream SMP was still going. So many sleepless hours and waking up at 3 am in the morning to watch the new dream smp stream that i will never get back. The feelings and thought i had during those times were not great, but at least dream smp made me keep going forward. Man... Thank you so fucking much for making this video, it made me remember what make me who I am now and to cherish the memories i had when I was 13 years old. That final part where you said you cried when you were writing the script almost made me cry. Again thank you so much for this video, genuinely a contender for the best of this year.
This is amazing. Also Wilbur's my favorite. Also, I love how Phil's heart was the only heart with the Hardcore texture. Edit: I wish that I got to experience this ENTIRE server when everyone was live, and it was happening for the first time, and all the hype. But no, of course I found out about the Dream SMP after it ended. Also, the Wilbur ending is so good. Edit 2: It is so good, I came back a second time to watch it all over again.
just got to the end of the video- wilbur saying to tonmy “i met you again” makes so much sense knowing what eret/wilbur(?) had planned for the finale of the series! not only does this imply smpearth is canon, but that its just one of many timelines theyve met in. i think lmanburg is a complete metaphor for tommy, it explains why theres so many versions of lmanburg in the dsmp alone
God I remember too much. Bro. I feel like I just dissociated for 5 hours and got transported back to 2020 😭 I love you, thank you so much for making this video!!!
What a wonderful video! I really enjoyed learning about how it all started, because never bothered to find out about it, despite watching all the rest. A lovely recap.
this video already has a bunch of comments so im not sure if this one will be seen at all, but im gonna comment it anyway: youve done an absolutely phenominal work with this! as someone who was deeeep in the twitter hole during quarantine (of course lmao) and was frequently seeing updates and fanart etc. from the dsmp fandom but was never into it myself, youve honestly given me such a cool different pov of it. i remember being in the deep deep hole of scary, depressing news during the lockdown, being tired and annoyed every day and finding so much solace and escapism in my own little fandoms of the day. i remember the fun, the discourse, the absolute chaos that were twitter fandoms back in the day and i remember how much they helped me cope. i still hold memories of those fandoms so truly near and dear to my heart, honestly probably more so than any fandom ive been in before or since, simply because they helped a lonely teenager like myself in the midst of 2020 so much. the fandoms i was in during that (the magnus archives and stellar firma haha) are technically still alive, but the feeling that 2020-21 fandoms was something else for sure. while i was watching this video, i could see the same love and joy you have for this piece of media that i had for my quarantine fandoms, and all i can say is thats just awesome and im really happy this one brought you sm joy! this video was so well put together, i can tell a ton of effort went into it, and even as someone who never cared about the dsmp before, i found myself getting swept up in your happiness and excitement and i started to get really invested. especially after cwilbur died honestly lmao. tldr, really good work and keep it up!!
I'd never watched dream smp. but I've definitely heard about it, I'll tell you that. I came across this video and planned on watching it in the background while cleaning my bedroom. but here I am, pages and pages of notes about the lore. this is a lot more then I originally thought it was. I just thought it was a stupid Minecraft server. I didn't think about the lore. I didn't care. I think I care now. I still don't completely understand, I don't even know if people who went along with it at the time do. but I understand a little more now. it'll be cool to understand a little bit of a new fandom. but this is a lot. so, thank you. thank you to dsmp fans new and old. thank you for reading this little rant of mine. thank you. I wish you all well :)
Oh my god, it makes me so happy to hear this from someone who had no idea about the lore previously. I did make this video for DSMP fans past and present, but I also really wanted for people to have the experience of clicking on a long video about media they've never consumed for background noise and getting invested in the story because of it. I'm glad this could help you understand a little more why this was so important to people (and important to me, obviously) and what the hype was all about! Thank you so much for the sweet comment :)
Oh wow the energy of that recounting and of the Tommy Exile Finale was just so- So many emotions, that was amazing to listen to omg. Exact same feeling as dramatically retelling things about my own blorbos, but someone else is doing the talking and compelling me to their blorbo instead Oh My Gosh
10/10 recap, would watch again ! Would however, NOT listen to while trying to sleep again, pretty sure my insomnia got worse, but it was a good video so it's worth it ! Now I can retell the whole lore to my friends (they do not care) !
Edit: Thank you Tommyinnit for watching this video and a few others on my channel!! It was really exciting (and a bit scary) to see my face in his video haha. Thanks so much!!
FUCK WILBUR SOOT
Thanks for all the support on this video :) Go follow @spiccytoast on twitter, who drew the character designs for Interlude 2 in this video! She's a fantastic artist and a great friend of mine.
There are some corrections to things I missed/got wrong in the comments section (forgive me, it's been years since all of these streams lmao), and I appreciate all of those giving feedback. I've replied to many of them, so if you're looking for more info or a correction on something I missed, look for those replies :)
Have a wonderful day. Thanks for watching!!
Alr, also you explained it so well!
from what i understand for the timestamps to work you need to put a 0:00 timestamp
@@justsomeguy9518 Omg thank you, think you just saved my life and those of people watching this long ass video 🙏
It's not like actually wrong but the thing you said about who the traitor was (being both Techno and Wilbur) it was revealed at the time/people came to the conclusion that dream lied, until they then all came to the conclusion oh okay it was Techno obviously. BUT THEN Dream confirms it to them like right before Schlatt dies, that the traitor was indeed Wilbur all along! OOOOO the way he says it too was so like OHHH MY GOOIFIFJ idek groundbreaking? I'm not good with words but I remember like everyone's reaction to it haha
this will help me make my video of the dsmp lore but with each character and the finally too if its ok will add you in decrtipton as one of the UA-camrs reviewing the story line
as someone who watched dsmp since pre disc war, realizing i know this much lore is horrifying
Realizing I know MORE than this much lore is even more horrifying
Its rlly horrifying not to mention if u know the details of it
After also being a fnaf fan I’ve learned how to not be shocked by how much lore I can soak up while simultaneously not remembering my phone number or how to do basic math
@@faithseden293SAME I WAS SO PASSIONATE ABOUT EVERYONES LORE ON THAT SERVER n would theorise sm 😭
One time a friend asked if Jschlatt was in the dsmp (I don't remember how that came up) and I accidentally summarized like, everything from the election arc to doomsday. And I could've given so much more detail. I'm not even active in the fandom anymore
SO READY TO WATCH THIS DESPITE BEING PRESENT FOR DSMP LORE SINCE THE DISC WARS. 4 HOURS OF CONTENT. LETS GO
FUCK YEAHHH
Did it explain it well? Like did it get everything
@@socialfreak2 pretty much yeah, but mostly from tommys pov specifically!
@goosefries of course yeah I am actually really happy I always wanted a explanation idk why I thought it said 23 minutes it's actually about 4 hours long but I guess there is a lot of lore hehe
FR Also cannot stop thinking of hamilton during L'manburg (IT'S THE TEN DUEL COMMANDMENTS, 123456789 it's the 10 duel commandments!!!)
Little correction: Tommy never gave the president title to Tubbo, instead he gives it back to Wilbur who then gives it to Tubbo. This may imply that Tommy's refusal might have influenced Wilbur's decision to blow up L'manberg.
Ty for the correction, I was a little fuzzy on the details 😅
@@kurkarl214 Ty for making a full recap of this, I had fun listening and going down memory lane.
i cant even deny it anymore, idc if its cringe or not i miss the dsmp :(
Same
not even cringe imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I honestly never watched the DreamSMP while it was going on because of how much second-hand embarrassment it gave me. After Techno died, I decided to give it a chance, and since then I have watched every single one of his DSMP streams. My thoughts? Oh boy, it is 1000% cringe, but I’m sure the story is what kept it going for as long as it did. Though Techno tended to be a socially inept person in general, so I may be biased after watching his POV exclusively
As of now, I have been invested in the QSMP since day 1. I’m not here to say whether it’s better or worse, but for me, it lacks what made the DSMP so cringe: the content creators’ relationships. In the DreamSMP, you could tell a lot of the people weren’t actually friends. Acquaintances, yes, but outside of lore there was nothing there. On the other hand, everyone on the QSMP seems to have chemistry. There are no awkward silences; no uncomfortable moments. In the span of 9 months, almost all the creators have gone on vacation together multiple times and many of them continue to visit each-other just for fun. They’re… real friends
Anyways, sorry for the long comment, but I felt like I had to point out what exactly made the DSMP cringe. The story was awesome and some of the dynamics too, but all around… the CC’s were just really awkward when they bumped into eachother and you could tell most of them weren’t friends outside of the server
@@kaleycooper9111I think the story was amazing, the characters were cool, the people behind it, some are good actors and script writers.
The only thing the makes the fandom a tiny bit cringe, is all the cosplayers and those people. It’s cool but they kinda set a bad example for the fandom.
Edit, also right now I’m mostly into QSMP and fanart. I also like lovejoy. So I’m not that into Dsmp anymore.
@@kaleycooper9111 in my opinion, what gave the fandom a bad name was the *certain* embarrassing and problematic fans. I joined the dsmp fandom in mid-2021 after watching some of quackity and george’s videos. (I had depression at the time) At first i thought it was a bit weird, but then i started to have fun and i met alot of really nice people and learnt alot. After that i was introduced to every other content creator. And i STILL watch majority of them.
The thing is the QSMP was planned, everything was planned beforehand and that made it more easy to make a storyline. But the DSMP wasnt planned, it kinda just happened. But imo that made it more fun because the improvising and funny moments between all the creators is what came out of it.
The only embarrassing part was some of the fans and especially the controversies of some creators and their fanbases. But even though it was embarrassing it was probably the most fun ive ever had and it made a huge impact on my life.
FINALLY AFTER THREE YEARS SOMEONE EXPLAINS THE WHOLE THING
Finally
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You should watch evenmcgaming he kinda animates it and shows all prospective
@@Jurassicgalaxy1245 yeah I saw it i rlly like it but i mean as in the WHOLE story finish to the end although i haven’t watched his latest one tho
@@BreadSourdoughBaguette ye he’s finished the dream smp story now
yes this fandom is finally old enough that people are starting to make internet history videos about it i've been waiting for this moment since 2020
finally, ill be able to understand the entire lore of the dream smp
Oh my god, love your animations! Thanks for the comment :)
and this is a banger video so far HAHA!
thanku and i shall continue watching
Lets be honest, nobody really knows what happened in the end of it, even EvanMC's retelling seemed like a very well done sown-together pieces of shattered glass
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Hey so just a note, at 41:00 Niki actually defends Wilbur and Tommy at the festival which leads to Schlatt deciding to execute her. Wilbur steps in and she is exiled instead, joins Pogtopia, is there for Tommy and Technoblades fight etc.
Also a mistake at 43:55 She defected from Manberg ON the day of the election, she wasn't the last to defect, she tried to convince Quackity to revoke his merging with Schlatt, and ended up killing him during an argument. They put her in prison and stole all her stuff, but Quackity felt bad and broke her out, with Eret covering up her escape. Wilbur wouldn't let her join Pogtopia because it was too dangerous, so she moved into Tommy's Holiday Home instead. Until the Red Festival, when she properly defected to Pogtopia as prior stated.
Yes she was the streamer I watched.
Thanks for the correction, I didn't watch Niki much and had to consult a friend who did for this video haha. Appreciate the feedback!
I don’t want to be that person but I’m also very passionate about this stupid Minecraft server: 1:24:30 Tommy didn’t mean to burn down George’s house. He recruited Ranboo to steal from George. Items which Ranboo kept for the entire run of the DSMP. They played around with flint and steel as a joke and it got out of hand. And they quickly built what they could immediately after meaning there really wasn’t that damage in the end. Any damage there was, George fixed in about 5 minute. Why does this matter? Because C!Dream acts like Tommy maliciously demolished George’s house when it was really a quick fix. The fact that most of the fandom remembers, falsely, that Tommy meant to burn it, shows how successful Dream was in pushing as much blame on Tommy as possible. Giving him an excuse to exile him. “Oh but Dream only wanted him exiled after he burned Spirit!” Nay I say! His IMMEDIATE reaction to Tommy lightly grazing George’s house with fire was, “Exile him.” Check the vod!! It’s almost an immediate suggestion! For something that wasn’t even that bad! He was just finding an excuse to exile him the entire time and I will DIE on this hill!
Omg fr
/rp
Dream didn't mind canceling Tommy's exile and he and Tubbo were about to sign papers to give Tommy a simple probationary period as punishment, but then Tommy began to threaten to burn Spirit's skin if he didn't leave Tommy completely unpunished and didn't do what they said. At first, Dream listens to him and even begins to tear down the obsidian wall, but then he realizes that Tommy will be able to use the skin of his dead horse against him forever and the "Spirit Speech" occurs. Yes, Dream insisted on exile and was very angry right after George's house was burned down, but what would you do in his place? The house of your friend, who is also the king of your country, is attacked by the vice president of another country. Also, despite the fact that George did not take the situation seriously, in a private conversation with Dream, he specifically hinted at how the situation offended him and how he wanted Tommy to be punished. Dream's feelings in this situation are absolutely clear. It doesn't matter what Tommy and Ranboo wanted to do in the first place if they end up burning down half the house + how would Dream know about Tommy's motives? I'm sure it probably sounded better in your head, but how can you look at a situation where your enemy burned down your friend's house and think, "Oh, that probably wasn't malicious"? Dream can't read minds
I think Dream obviously had ulterior motives behind wanting to specifically exile Tommy (he needed to get the disc from Tubbo for the staged finale + Tommy had declared countless wars against him since his first day on the server and talked crap to his friends), but he definitely wasn't some psychopath who targeted Tommy for no reason or had absolutely no reason to want Tommy to be punished in the first place. Or at least here we're talking about canon Dream, not Dream from sbi fanfics
Thank you for the feedback! I must have remembered it wrong -- so you're completely right that it shows how Dream's blame affected even the fandom perception of the event. Appreciate your comment.
@@kurkarl214 this is six months late but i also remember a stream, a captain puffy stream wherein she and cdream go around greifing people and leaving signs making it seem like it was tommy, specifically framing tommy for multiple incidents prior to him and ranboo accidently burning george's house. showing that cdream was preplanning to frame and exile tommy before george's house, that stream wasnt ever saved so you can't find it anymore.
Sobbing hysterically c!tommy my boy my boyyy AAAGGGHHHH
Man, way to change my perspective on an entire fandom with one video. Holy shit.
I initially clicked on this video to listen to it in the background while I worked on my school assignments. I sent a link to my friends, we clowned on DSMP fans a bit, and ultimately asked "Why would anyone bother to make a *four hour video* about this sort of content?"
I suppose that, in the moment, I had forgotten myself. A gacha life user, a BATIM fan since day one, a FNAF admirer, an author of my own silly little stories - I'd forgotten for the sake of some mean-spirited jokes.
I went into this expecting another video essay I wouldn't pay much attention to, something I would forget in a matter of moments. Instead, I watched all four hours in one sitting, my eyes glued to the screen, becoming more and more invested in this story that, just earlier today, would have rolls my eyes at in dismissal.
Will I check out the DSMP for myself? Likely not. That's a lot of content to sift through, and as someone who's prone to intense hyperfixations, I don't want o give up my life to another piece of media yet lmao.
But another thing I'll never do is laugh at a DSMP fan again. Sure, it's a cringey Minecraft roleplay, so what? Who am I to say that it's wrong to enjoy something? Why shouldn't I apply my fandom mindset to this? "If it's not illegal, if it's not hurting anyone, what does it matter?"
I expected to be talked at for four hours about a fandom I couldn't care less about, but instead, I walked away with my perception of fandom entirely changed. I thank you for that.
I think deep down, we're all our own unfinished symphony.
*standing ovation*
*standing ovation*
"i think deep down, we're all our own unfinished symphony" is such a raw line & then it turns out to be from a youtube comment
Comments like these make me proud of society 😭
standing ovation. (also i wanna add my own bit onto this. watching this and rewatching everything i used to love back in 2020, makes me so happy. it was cringe, it was annoying, but i was so happy back in quarantine. it's nice to relive that)
1:18:00 I just wanna say that the fanfiction of the dsmp fandom is so big as a genre that ao3 was actually forced into making a whole new tag JUST for dsmp, it’s happened early 2022 and now ever since the Minecraft tag is just for Minecraft the game fanfic and the dsmp and other smp tags are for the roleplays. Also as a fanfic author myself I can say that the fandom writings themselves are not dead and people continue to make amazing works, both for the canon story and for AUs like Passerine
2:10:14 I actually have a physical written out by hand transcription of this scene-
"You used me as a weapon, you've never thought of me as a friend, you've just used me from the start. You saw me as 'The Blade' that's all I was to you, 'The Blade', a weapon."
[...]
"You were our friend! And you know what-"
"You never thought of me as a friend Tommy."
"Techno, for once in your life listen to me: you were my friend."
"I listened to you for weeks! And what did you do? You went back to Tubbo! The guy that exiled you, that chose his country over you."
"Techno, people are above the government. We-"
"I'M A PERSON!!"
"You are, Techno! And so are we! The discs-"
"DISCS AREN'T PEOPLE!!"
I have so many thoughts about these two and this are and this scene and augh! They're always talking past each other and it's so tragic
Soooooo good
Talking past each other though they may have been, one of them was definitely more in the right than the other
@@Axolautism …who? It’s very important u tell me who u think that is.
The way their relationship was doomed to fail because Tommy's wounds were too fresh he wasn't ready, and Techno wasn't equipped to deal with that.
Like 500 or so hours of lore crushed down into a normal stream length, very cool
EDIT: Wow, almost 200 likes.. cool?
50??? More like 500 lmaooo
I love the sound of someone losing their marbles
I wasn't really planning on watching the entire video in one sitting. but here I am, 4 hours later, crying to this...
I seriously can't thank you enough for helping me remember how much this story meant to me.
I stuck around with the dream smp (tommy's pov, at least) until the very finale. I refused to watch the ending because of,, REASONS... But after it ended,, I really couldn't find it in myself to look back at any of it in a fond way... especially after it left SUCH a bad taste in my mouth... (plus some of the content creators making you feel "lesser than" for caring about the story they were telling or sometimes using the lore as "damage control" didn't really help).
Every now and then i would tell my online friends "I miss the dsmp" in a joking way, and it would get all of us to laugh because of how ABSURD that sounded... but after all of this time.. and hearing the story again. reMEMBERING how it made me feel watching it... it felt surreal almost... like.. damn,, maybe i do miss some parts of it... which feels crazy for me to say... but is it really??
This server has been a part of my life since... well... the 4th of July 2020... I was a Tommyinnit fan before he even joined the server (I found Techno in 2019 thanks to Minecraft Mondays, Found Wilbur through him, and later got into Tommy's content during smpEarth in December of 2019 which is like 8 months before he joined the dsmp...) and i can safely say I've probably watched almost every Stream you mentioned, from Tom's pov, live...
I was an artist, and most notably an Editor, in the dsmp ig community. I've met what are now some of my best friends thanks to this damn server...
And to this day still follow some content creators that were a part of it (mainly Purpled lmao)
In this past year I completely tried to distance myself from all of the joy it used to bring me mainly because of some of the content creators on it being weirdos (dream). which is something i really don't want to gloss over... But I feel like I can't let that overshadow completely the amounts of care and work i put into making content, edits, drawings,, I was mainly interested in the story and since my main language isn't English, it literally helped me get better at it, which is always something fun to look back on. Since I'm European I would cancel nights out with friends just to watch streams,, I'm 19 that sounds kinda silly to me now,, but this story used to be my everything at some point...
It meant SO MUCH TO ME. I cried watching many of the streams,, and, fun fact, I also had to tell my mum about ctommy dying on the 1st of march 2021,, and that's HOW YOU KNOW....
and i really hate to look back on such a huge part of my life (from age 15 to 19) solely in a negative light. And i can thank you partially for helping in changing that. I hope that many ex-Dsmp fans come across this video and get as excited as I did hearing you re-explain what happened on November 16th 2020.. or the exile arc.. or THE DISC FINALE!!...... GOSHHHH. Durning many parts of the video i found myself pausing and shouting "YOU GET IT!!!!!" over and over again.
I also was VERYYY attached to ctommy and ccrimeboys as a dynamic. I related to cTommy a lot... and it really sucks the story ended that way.. but I also can't blame them TOO MUCH.. as having to wrap up, what is possibly the most confusing,, inconsistent, complicated (but yet beautiful) story ever made in just a few streams sounds like a challenge and a half. Still cTommy's character will forever remain probably my favorite character EVER moving forward.. it helps that there is so much content of him, because there are layers and layers to that guy, it's actually insane....
(btw the only stuff I think you failed to mention was Dream's Prison escape, with Techno's help.. Ranboo's perma death.. and some other stuff in the Las Nevadas lore. but I also understand that you were more focused on ccriemeboys,, which don't worry i was too. so I can't blame you)
but yeah.. ok.. sorry for the long message, I'm not really good at organizing my thoughts so it's just a mess of words put together without any sense or meaning,,,. which i apologize for... but. long story short: THANK YOU. really, thank you for making this video. sending love, you're amazing!!
This comments feels like reading exactly about my experience with the dsmp 😭 I'm glad this video was cathartic for you. I was really hoping to tap into that with this video, help some people (and myself!) kill the inner cringe that you might have ever liked dream smp. It was important! It was inconsistent and complicated, like you said, but it was also so ... human, and amazing, and there will never be anything like it again. I know exactly what you mean about being made to feel lesser for ... giving a shit about a story that meant a lot to people?! That was crazy, but I don't care anymore. I love the lore :)
I was (and still am) super attached to ccrimeboys as well -- this video barely scratches the surface of my thoughts about them -- and cTommy was a source of comfort and relatability for me when I was the same age as him and similarly confused about my place in the world. I agree that he'll probably remain one of my favorite characters for a LONG, long time to come. He's so three-dimensional, it's crazy, and I know that the ending wasn't what was originally meant for him, which breaks my heart.
Thank you again for the comment. Knowing this video delivered what I wanted to at least one person makes all of the work that went into it worth it.
Wait what happened on nov 16th in the dsmp? Thats literally my birthday lmao
It fills my heart with so much joy to see someone who cares about something like the DSMP the way you do. I've been watching Minecraft roleplays since like 2010, back when watching silly Minecraft videos were pretty niche or "only something a loner would do" (although I guess that connotation still kind of lives on today lol), so it's been absolutely surreal to see the scale that DSMP grew into, that it became big enough to break through mainstream. It feels that times have truly changed for the better knowing that something like the DSMP gave so many kids the opportunity to connect with other kids who loved the same thing, when I could only imagine having someone to rant about my CC's character to. Thank you for caring, dude.
things i saw live but forgot happened that are actually pretty metal:
1. Quackity, at jschlatt's funeral, rips out the heart of his toxic late husband's corpse, and eats it in front of everyone
2. Jack Manifold having all three of his canon lives taken and not die, just for death to swallow him in the middle of the street, he experiences hell itself, and then through sheer rage alone, CLAWS himself out of hell and back to the land of the living
sometimes I make fun of myself for liking the dsmp so much in 2020-2021 but honestly it got me through the worst time of my life and got me to actually do things. I dont know where I would be without it. thank you for making this video it really made me think about how far ive come.
having an absolute blast listening to you explain the dsmp lore bcz the more you get into it the faster you talk and its CLEARLY all off the cuff. OBSESSED. this is making me want to do my own deep dive video soooooo baaaaad
by which i mean youre very engaging and entertaining and your enthusiasm is contagious. !!!!!! to be clear
thank you!! you should definitely make your own & i will DEFINITELY be watching
@@kurkarl214 aaaa!! well now i feel like i must!!!
wow. i’m in a weird headspace after watching this. i feel like this video was such a cathartic experience for me. dsmp was so important for me, it is the reason i am an artist and writer and i often looked back on it with embarrassment or cringe that the fact that my first art was of ctommy or cwilbur or cdream. i spent the last week watching old animatics and getting re attached to these characters (particularly ctommy and cranboo and cwilbur and ctubbo) so this video came at a time when i was already reflecting on dsmp and those experiences
ive realized how important those characters were to me and how they’re still important to me. i still love these little block guys and this beautiful little story changed my life, even if i stopped watched a lot of the streams at the end, and really dislike a few of the creators (dream sapnap) and i hated the ending. the ending to me felt like it went against the whole story of ctommy and his experience, his abuse, and most importantly his healing.
this comment feels like a really long winded way to say thank you? i’ve gone a bit in circles but thank you for reminding me that even though this story had flaws, it’s okay that it was important to me, and it’s okay that i still hold it and the characters i love dearly. anyways, i think im going to go watch some more fan songs and animatics, and maybe draw some ctommy art.
OMG SAME U PUT MY THOUGHTS INTO WORDS THANK UUU
you and me both WHEW down to the faves and the ones that ive grown to rlly dislike
I feel pretty similar, dream smp was super important to me because it was 2020, quarantine sucked, and I was pretty miserable (as I'm sure most people were, 2020 was a bad year.) To me dream smp was kind of an escape from that, something for me to be invested in. But it was more than that still. All of my friends were huge fans of it at the time and it was something I connected with them a lot over. Sharing fanart and fanfics we liked, freaking out over lore together, reacting to the streams in real time...
sometimes I wonder if I miss dream smp or I miss the friends I had and the memories we had because of it. But I think end of the day it was both. There's a lot of good memories there.
I think the MASSIVE piece of lore you missed at the end was the Syndicate? Because this was a huge thing you never mentioned 😂
Technoblade turned up at Niki's Underground City to invite her to help him, but she refused because it was before the nuke test. Afterwards, however, she agreed and so her, Phil, and Techno started the Syndicate. Ranboo was spying on them so they had him join them so he wouldn't tell anyone. They had a cool lava base and their table was the Ender Portal.
I remember when during their second meeting Phil told everyone Tommy had been killed in prison and Techno and Niki laughed in his face and said if it was still true tomorrow they'd believe it.
They did a bunch of things, mostly scouting out places. They held Techno a birthday party (this part happened after the revival and what I'm about to mention, I remember that because this is where Niki learnt of it). Techno got locked in prison with Dream for 2 months! Because Phil misread his instructions, he actually meant two days.
Ranboo got thrown in prison by Sam for his affiliation with them so the three remaining members broke him, Dream, and Connor (in jai for using a fake ID at a Chick-Fil-A) out. Niki set of Withers, Phil stole them horses etc. Connor joined the Syndicate after that. RANBOO WAS KILLED AND LOST HIS FINAL CANON LIFE.
This was sort of Jack's last straw (because Niki was exposed for working with Techno) as she was the last person he felt he could trust. He confronted her afterwards and although they made up and stayed close, he sort of decided he had to go through with their original plan.
Connor also loses his final canon life during Wilbur's Apology Tour (a long while afterwards, the prison break happened before this) and becomes a ghost with a pet red sheep named Rosie.
Also there was a bunch of mystery over this anonymous final member of the group, eventually revealed to be Kristen, the Goddess of Death and Phil's wife, who saves them from the nuke at the end of the story. The only survivors are Connor's ghost, Rosie, Niki, Phil and Kristen.
syndicate best arc ong
maybe the real dsmp was the friends we made along the way
thank you so much. this genuinely helped me forgive myself for feeling like caring about this story was cringe or a bad quality about myself. i’ve always looked back on the lore with fond memories but felt absolutely awful when i was shamed for even asking about sharing it to others. i feel honestly healed right now, thank you. this meant so much.
This was uploaded at the perfect time for my new hyperfixation, time to watch it all in one sitting
Edits for timestamps:
1:20:40 beginning of season 2
2:48:26 beginning of season 3
3:33:48 beginning of season 4
this story is so insane this is told so well i've never intaken the media but i'm FREAKING OUT.
OMG I’m so glad people still care about the dream smp, I hope we see more dsmp content from you
Earlier today i literally said to myself "man, i really wish i knew the dsmp lore, but i dont want to have to watch the 80+ hours of VODS :( i wish there was like a lore explaining video i could watch to cover all of it"
And then A FEW HOURS LATER I STUMBLE UPON THIS VIDEO-
Seriously thank you so much for this, i cant believe i found this today of all days.
4 HOURS IS CRAZY 😭 I RESPSECT IT THO FR 🔥
us dsmp fans r breaking apart rn 😭 BUT THANK YOU I AM SAVING THIS.
First of all thank you for your video. English is not my first language but i try my best. I found out about dsmp year ago and got reccomeded videos from but i didn`t quite understend what they were about. So i started to watch a channel called blueberry, so i can catch up with lore. And GOD it was amazing to watch. I watch all the 1 and 2 season but never futher, because qsmp started and watch it instead. But back then i was really obsessed with dsmp and speak for hours to my friend about it. The fanarts and animation of it is something incredible and beautiful. Wathing so many people be passionate about it and create evem now such wonderful things is crazy. And watching your video and finding out the rest of is crazy too. I even burst into tears at some points because you talked with such enthusiasm. It really shows how you care about this and helps me to remember how i cared back then. So many things changed since that time but this story is still like a comfort place despite of all. Damn, a relly long comment sorry..... but again thank you for taking your time and tall us about this
the drawn on shirt is SENDING me
1:17:33 niki actually read passerine on an alt stream in 2021!! i remember it so clearly, it was so so nice seeing a cc read and enjoy the fic and the vod is still one of my favorites to this day
Im not convinced it wasn’t a mass fever dream or perhaps a Harvard experiment tbh
OMG 4 HOURS WORTH OF LORE EXPLAINING??? MAAM I ADMIRE UR DEDICATION whenever I try to explain to my(not so interested)friends I just end up summing everything in a nutshell and it becomes smth like “and dream was pissed at tommys existence so yada yada he beat the child to death with a potato the end” ALSO U HAVE NO IDEA HOW HAPPY I AM TO SEE A VERY DSMP RELATED VIDEO IN 2024 I MISS THE SMP ty for this
(I sound so SO dumb but idc I rlly missed this fandom)
4 hours? Better than almost 4 years
CONGRATZ ON THE SHOUT OUT FROM TOMMYINNIT BRO, He seemed so surprised cause it was 4hours ,which made me question my life cause i sat and watched this in one sitting.....
1:04:03 just wanted to point out that Technoblade got higher concurrent viewers than that on a couple occasions, I can't find great data but multiple screenshots were posted from his "It ends today" stream with over 800K viewers, with Techno himself posting a screenshot with the peak over 850K. This wasn't on Twitch so it wouldn't have been on the highest viewed twitch stream records, but it did happen, so I thought it was important to mention! Love the video so far btw, it's very engaging even for someone who was there for most of this lore!
i completly trust that someone who looks like this will be an expert at smp lore
tumblr phrenology
My comment deserves more likes
@@theofficialdanielmunozbaut2277 it does
good job? lol
@@zoey-b thanks
FINALLY I KNEW SOMEONE HAD TO MAKE ONE OF THESE EVENTUALLY
I am incredibly autistic over the dsmp even a year after it ended. I am showing this to all my friends thank you
all my friends said they’d explain it eventually but they never did. i was the only person in my group who wasn’t hyperfixated on it. however i did watch techno blades last stream it was pretty good.
haven’t watched the video yet but with the large ammount of conflicting lore and just large amounts of lore in general , very cool that you were able to put it all in a video!!
i would 100% make a 4 hour long video about the life series , none of it would make sense i would just ramble for hours.
My headcanon for the Tubbo horns comes from a similar place to yours, I saw this post on the DSMP Reddit once where it was theorized that instead of Schlatt being Tubbos father instead Tubbo was part Moobloom (a version of the Mooshroom with flowers instead of mushrooms that was in a mob vote) which is why he’s so drawn towards bees and things like that which has always stuck with me and I can’t find the original post anywhere.
28:22 A bit nitpicky, but to flesh out and clarify what happened precisely with the election results:
When Jschlatt first entered the running, Quackity posed an idea to Wilbur that should they both loose, they would pool their votes in a coalition party to give them a second chance at winning... But it would mean Quackity would replace Tommy as Wilbur's vice president, so he rejected the idea.
So then Quackity offered a similar deal to Jschlatt, that they would pool their votes to ensure he still had a chance at winning. Jschlatt agreed.
it took me way too long to realize you PAINTED the shirt LMAOOO that's so good
I just wanted to say because ive been thinking about this since January- this made me cry and the way you told the story was absolutely amazing. Like standing ovation. Beautiful. Yes. I wish i could explain better but just. Yes. Thank you. The meta lore bits too like top notch omg. I finished this and couldnt fuction properly for the rest of the day i just walked around aimlessly trying not to like start bawling. Man the rollercoaster this video prompted was the actual best thing dude its almost been a year but i still think about that day
I watch this video every time I miss the DSMP (or at least that time in my life) because it's the best video on the topic, mostly because of the care and time taken to talk about WHY it was so special to people and WHAT was happening outside of the streams.
Just letting you know- the absolute stellar thumbnail with the '4 hours+' tacked on in the corner is HILARIOUS
I love how you can feel your emotion and passion for the story! It’s like just having a friend in the room (and I also love the stick-pointer😂)
I found this in my recommended and I was absolutely stunned, I remember watching your color symbolism video years ago, man. It's kind of crazy to think that the DSMP's been around for that long.
This video was cathartic to me. I've been revisting the dsmp constantly the past few months since my life's been on and off for a bit. I kept telling myself I'd leave it behind after the nuke finale(and then they made the Syndicate finale, then the real finale), but I keep coming back to it. It's been really hard to leave it behind, I want to grow up and move on but I don't want to let go of that part of me. Maybe that's why I keep rewatching all the lore, because I'm looking back so I don't have to look forward, I don't know, I'll find out eventually.
Thank you for treating the story with the honest respect and dignity I feel it deserves. I genuinely love the SMP and the storyline(except for some bits like the nuke finale which feels more and more like it was supposed to set up a reboot and not be a narrative conclusion in retrospect), and it's kind of refreshing to see it done some justice. I remember the good and the bad of the fandom and even though I didn't really get into it until the New L'Manberg/Doomsday arc, I've loved it ever since. I liked seeing Tommy's character growth mirror his growth as a person, and watch it mirror my own. As conflicted as I am about season 3(it has it's good moments though, Ranboo becoming a central character was great), Tommy's depressive state was one I shared with him. His character kept talking about yearning for the past and not feeling good anymore, and I was going through a period in my life where I felt the same, whether it be with the SMP or just life in general. It didn't make me feel better, but it gave me some agency to my pain.
Eventually, I started getting better, and it started to feel like watching the server was a fun, chill activity again. One of the things I liked about season 4 was it embraced it's own oblivion. With the fandom died down, it just felt more chill. No grandiose threats, no convoluted plotlines, no pointless character depression, just introspection, rumination and storytelling. Wilbur's redemption arc is one of my favorite parts of the entire SMP and Quackity's Las Nevadas empire shit actually got interesting around the end. What I'm trying to say is, the server evolved to fit my emotional state. The fandom is perpetually mixed, but I'm always going to view it with a positive light. I loved watching Sad-ist's awesome as shit animations, I loved how heartfelt and raw the Late August animatics are, I loved the fanart, I loved Scorpia's stuff, I enjoyed listening to Lonely King, I read so many comics(and to this day am scrounging for a fucking copy of Unfinished Symphony), I cried reading the Passerine saga(even when I didn't watch dsmp). It's like you said, so many people cared, and that's what makes it beautiful.
I cared. I cared so much. And thank you for reciprocating that, for understanding that, for respecting that. It means the world to me.
I remember when people starting calling Dream Smp cringe and I know it's ridiculed to this day, but even so, I couldn't help but love it. It taught me to grow up, to move on, to understand the world is dark and complicated as it happened to me. I felt alone in that regard, it felt like I was the only one who liked it anymore. I got slightly bullied for that. I still kind of do, to a lesser degree, but hey.
Part of what makes it so captivating, I think, is it's operation at a metatextual level. Focusing on c!crimeboys alone(because let's be real, they're the best part of the damn server), we watched Tommy and Wilbur mature and reflect on their mistakes. at the end, Tommy started yearning for a simpler, easier, time, to go back to childhood(that monologue he had on Wilbur's "Tower" stream gets to me, and how he told Wilbur they needed to get the L'manberg gang back together when Wilbur left), and it works because he was growing up, his audience was growing up alongside him, and Dream Smp was getting more and more complex with increasing numbers of creators getting backlash and harassment and hate and drama and I hate every second of those things. I hated being made fun of for liking dsmp's narrative because Dream cheated on his speedrun or some shit. Wilbur spends his entire redemption arc reckoning with the people he hurt in the past and regretting what could've been. At the end, when they and we grow up, we're both propelled by the past, when what we needed to do was to let go, move on, and cherish what we had.
It's part of why the nuke finale's always going to be fixed for me: it vindicates Tommy's obsession with the past and things being simple again, and erases the history and past that drive the characters, but that one part--wanting things to be simple again--is powerful. I don't like how it's executed, but I like it in concept. I can't help, however, feel some kind of lingering regret from it. What happens with Karl in Tales? Did he disable the tnt? Who is Harpocrates? I have the same sentiment about the finale not being..very good, don't redeem Dream, so my headcanon ending is Tommy on the path to healing after Wilbur leaving, repairing his broken relationships and eventually starting a life away from Dream while all Dream has is an empty SMP, an empty kingdom of nothing and no one, doomed to one day be forgotten(inspiration from Stampy's finale). There's parts of it I have ideas for, like the ending is Tommy and Tubbo listening to the discs during one last sunrise, and Tommy finding a disc in Techno's house(both are ideas from his last stream).
It doesn't matter if I find it disappointing. You make your own truth.
Even though I don't know you, I want to say thank you for giving voice to all the feelings I had about the smp into this video. It means so much to both us, and I'm going to miss it. It made me care about storytelling, got me interested in political science, helped me discover a bunch of cool fanartists, introduced me to Technoblade, hell, it introduced me to Tommy and Wilbur and I still follow those two, Wilbur especially. It's fun to listen to his music all these years and he got me into Los Campesinos! which is now my favorite band, there's so much positive good. It'll be hard to let go. Honestly I probably should.
But letting go and moving on doesn't mean not cherishing what I had, like I said. I had a genuine love for this SMP and never agreed with the concept of a "dsmp phase," because it was never really a phase for me, it was something more important. It was more meaningful than that. You talked about how it was about love for you, and I believe you can still carry love with you even if you move on and grow up. That's part of what makes people good people. It's a fond memory, and it'll stay that way.
So, thank you. It might be jarring to get a comment this personal and open about a block game roleplay, but hell, I feel like this video made me feel raw, and open, and heartfelt, because it was such. One day, I'm gonna grow up and I'll leave it behind in the future once I start seriously turning my life around. I'm gonna miss it, and it's hard, but I gotta grow up anyway. I hope I see you in the future, I hope your future's bright, and I hope mine is too.
I'll be good, and when I'm not, I will be soon enough, and I will believe the same about you. Carry on, love always.
and remember, if this is all blown up and you have a thousand men by your side, if you have all the best pvpers, if Technoblade is with us or not, it's always you and me, versus Dream,
and even if it's not there anymore, there was a special place, there was..
Thank you so, so much for this comment. It made me tear up a little -- writing this, I still have a lump in my throat, haha.
I agree with many of your thoughts on the DSMP and its growth and evolution, especially considering that I (and a lot of other viewers) were teenagers when it was still going on. That's a tumultuous time, and it was really nice for me to have a constant like the DSMP that I could hold onto then. For most of my life, media has been something to cling to when I was unsure of myself, and so I, like you, have a lot to owe DSMP for helping me through those years.
(Love your ideas for the finale, also. Some of my thoughts follow very similar lines of thinking :))
I don't know you either, but it's beautiful that my video was able to connect with you in this way. I never thought that my video talking about one of my favorite pieces of media would affect so many people like this, but I'm really glad it did, since making this video certainly helped me come to terms with a lot about the DSMP in general. (Los Campesinos! is one of my favorite bands, too. Thanks for lending me your music taste, Wilbur Soot.)
I really appreciate your earnesty and, again, I'm so happy this video made an impact on you. I hope I see you in the future as well -- happy new year, by the way! -- and I'll remember this comment (might have to hang it up on my wall lol)! Love always :)
I'm really glad you could have the effect on me, Happy New Year to you as well! I hope to see you in the future as well and I'm honored to be considered as an addition to your wall!@@kurkarl214
@@kurkarl214 Damn it, wanna come back here. My feelings about the fandom are really weird after all of Wilbur's shit. It's been hard to process how someone so integral to why I loved the SMP is a horrible person. It's so much worse than the Dream drama since Dream never had a bearing on why I cared about the SMP. It's so strange knowing that someone whose art genuinely helped me become a better person is a shitty person in reality. It's strange that the man who taught me the value of recognizing my faults and becoming better can't do either.
I haven't really watched it since and I genuinely think I'm moving on from it. I don't hate it, and I guess I miss it sometimes, I don't know. It's just really hard and for once it hurts to feel nostalgic for something. I miss it so much but now I know I shouldn't go back to it. I've been trying to move away from fandoms in general, just trying to live life. I love the SMP, but part of it kept me stuck in the past, stuck in COVID, when I should just be out living life. I don't think I'll come back to it but I wouldn't regret it for the world. I just hope it's the same for you, I don't know. Love always.
:] its so nice seeing ppl fall in love with the dmsp again even after time has passed. despite how things ended up, it was a product of community and love, and ill always remember the fun among all the hell. tysm for going thru the effort of remembering all the details and summarizing what has now become lost media (impossible to experience again since all the vods and fan content are scattered across the internet) it really is a show of how the dsmp was an accidental miracle of its time. i wish all ex dsmp-ers a wonderful life, im glad we could all be fans of the same thing, at one point in time
YOO THANKS FOR EXPLAINING!! The DSMP was a massive part of my 2020-2022 years, i remember looking forward to every single SAD-IST animatic and DSMP streams, sad to say this is a blast from the past
17:01 small correction - pretty sure tommy actually pressed the button! of course, eret meant to press the button, but before they could do their speech, tommy got curious and pressed it.
Even in 2024 the dsmp is the most important piece of media I’ve ever seen, it’s the first fandom I had ever joined & it’s really shaped my life a lot.
im not apart of this fandom anymore, but i know for a fact this video NEEDS a like bc holy shit, the DSMP lore is absolutely insane. like props to you bro, this is crazy
i watched the dsmp from july 2020 to the end. the nostalgia is a completely unexplainable thing that i haven’t experienced so intensely with literally anything else in my entire life. maybe i hyperfixated too hard… (0°0)
Passerine (I think that’s how it’s spelled) was so good my older sibling who interacts with zero (0) mcyt anything read it, liked it, AND RECOMMENDED IT.
damn never watched dsmp, and thought it was always cringe but this video really changed my perspective on it, you talked about it with such passion, though a lot of the creators were problematic the story told wasn’t and it gave so much hope to those suffering through the quarantine. It’s amazing how something that started of so small could mean so much to people. Amazing video !!! :D
Thank you so much for reminding how great and amazing the lore was!!! dream smp was an amazing era for me atleast. It was very unhealthy too though because they stream mostly 2-4am to me, I get that people get cringe about hearing the name and seeing at least scraps of it I did have some cringe moments for me because I'm older now but I just realized that I should just be proud and be happy that I was part of something that I'm so PASSIONATE about! dsmp will always gonna be a part of me. I also focused on Tommy's perspective through out the lore he was my MC in the story (along side wilbur I love him sm!) his story will always gonna be one of my favorites. All of the characters in the dsmp was amazing and well written! That era will always gonna be one of my best era on my life tbh.
This is one of the best piece of media that ever made (for me at least 🥹) Watching them grow throughout the years and looking back right now to them I'm so proud and happy for them so muchhhh🥹. I started re-watching and visited some videos that I really loved and I came across this video so THANK YOU SO MUCH! for reminding and making me feel I'm not alone about on how I feel about dsmp.
Dsmp means a lot to me aswell because I was there when the first Lore stream was ever streamed. I remember the hype and excitement I felt when they revealed eret was the traitor! Trying not to scream because I might wake anyone up. It was just an amazing feeling and Its just so sad because I will never get to experience that feeling again, but I'm glad I get to experience that I'm happy that I was part of something that I was really passionate and happy about.
Thank you DSMP.
Unfortunately I missed out on the dream SMP but I think based on this video it's interesting. I also love how fans cared so much about it and it really demonstrated all the wonderful aspects of fandom. Especially when a lot of fandoms tend to be viewed negatively and sometimes that drives people away from the source of the fandom. For example my ex never gave undertale the chance because of the fandom. But watching this video empathize on how a piece of media brought people together and how meaningful it is to have fandom and general creating stories . Especially when many stories today feel artificial and lack that connection and creativity (*cough cough* Disney).
I finished this video and just let myself cry my eyes out. This had really rekindled my love for the dsmp, which is really insane because I felt so vindictive towards that time in my life. I never wanted to look back on it, it felt so shameful to me. But right now I just really want to care and love it so much. I've never forgotten about how much this meant but I also didn't let myself enjoy it. I dont let myself enjoy alot of things. I debated commenting on this video, especially since it feels really messy and dumb but I'm rambling on like this just because I want to be here and experience it.
I'm so thankful for this video. I'll always remember this.
i feel the exact same way. i dropped it early 2022, and ever since i'd always felt bitter and regretful about that time of my life. but recently i've felt overwhelmingly nostalgic and this video really felt like it unlocked those repressed emotions in me.
maybe it wasn't perfect. maybe i feel bad about supporting people that didn't deserve it, whether i knew at the time or not. but i loved it so, so much, and i don't want to deny that anymore.
sorry for rambling like this under your comment thats 2 months old, it just felt comforting to see someone with a similar reaction LOL
@@stupidenby haha I told u I wouldn't forget about his video so ty for the comment!! It rlly is comforting to see others who feel the same as me
Tommy, Tubbo and Jack finally got their happy ending 🥲
1:57:48 This is only subtly relevant, because I am so obsessed with Ranboo and Techno's arc together and it sets things up for them in the future - after the Butcher's Army's failed exile Ranboo actually ends up Right Back At Techno's House, and they, Techno, and Tommy hang out and chat for a while, with Techno holding the looming threat of murder over Ranboo's head to make him return the armor New L'Manburg stole from him in their kidnapping.
Anyways! The thing about that scene is when Tanboo says he only came along because he sucks with peer pressure and Techno is like "lmao same". Then Techno tells Rnaboo that L'Manburg uses people, that's what they do. And Ranboo goes "wait what they do what now?" and Techno's like "dude. You were literally just pressured into kidnapping and murder" and Ranboo is like "oh wow. Yeah. I was."
And this sows the seeds of anarchy in Ranboo's mind I think, and set Techni up to not hold a grudge against him despite being secondnonly to Quackity in vengeance, that ultimately leads to Ramboo being able to live with Phil and Techno in the tundra, and eventually becoming a member of the Syndicate
I loved watching this as if i dont know like every aspect of lore, but the interludes were really cool since i didnt have twitter at the time so learning abt the aspects of the comunity on twitter was so cool and you made it really entertaining!!! thank you !!!
I've watched dsmp in the middle of the disc war and i honestly never understood the full lore. I miss the old days,and it's never bad to go back and remember the good old times while finally finding out stuff i forgot or never knew :]
four hours. four hours. jesus fucking christ. I feel obligated to watch this even though the only part of dsmp lore i care about is anything about philza's character lmao. thanks for the video and the effort m8!!
1:55:45 "PHIL!! WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU!!?" Techno was NOT pleased at all with that haha (Phil is like his number one priority next to anarchy. Do Not Mess With Phil)
THANK YOU??? i really didnt want to watch the dsmp (autism and issues with second hand embarrassment and attention span) but i had a revival of love for a few of the creators. this was so helpful. bless u omg..
Dude this is so real 😭
cant even start to explain how much this video means to me. thank you. truly.
I have now watched this in one sitting way too late at night and ohhhmyyyGODDDDDD I forgot about such a passionate feelings i had about the dsmp and c!wilbur. This video kept my attention the whole time, 10/10 and thank you.
I felt forced to stop watching dsmp content because of the controversies surrounding the streamers, which got me harassed. So I think it’s unfair and childish to take something that means a lot to someone. (to me dsmp was for the most part rly comforting cuz I could relate to some characters) in my case it’s even worse cuz it’s not just some hate online, which wouldn’t have changed anything for me, it was family members who threatened not talking with me again because of it. After all this time I still want to watch content related to it to bring back memories, thank you for your work 💖
Thats so sad :( dont ever let anyone make you feel bad for liking something 🫶🏻
@@starralaxXty!! Yeah I don’t usually let that get to me but I had to because it was someone important to me
DSMP PHASE WAS LITERALLY THE BEST THING EVER
i never was in the fandom, matter of fact, i didnt want to since i was super afraid i might be cringe. Now i regret it, i missed such an experience just because i wanted to be socially accepted by people who already hate me. But i cant fret it cause im not a timetraveller.
I love the little detail how you dressed up as canon tommy in the beginning, then ‘ fanon’ Tommy. I love the way that in the first ‘ act ‘ you wore just the simple red shirt - then changed into the more “ fanon “ design for Tommy. Idk just a small thing 🤷. Also, if someone’s already said this I’m sorry😓😓
Watched since Tommy joined but you best believe I’m gonna watch this whole thing!!!!
Hey! Dunno if you remember my comment, I just wanted to say congrats on getting into Tommy's video! That's awesome! Really glad you're getting attention proper for it, you deserve it.
(As for what I said about Wilbur I've taken time to process it and I feel better now. It doesn't completely tarnish my memory and there's still genuine good that came out of being in the fandom. I've been learning to try and take the bad with the good and I've been doing better about it.)
Carry on, love always
and it's me and you versus dream
hi yeah so i just watched this entire thing and i really really do not regret it. thank you for making this video, it was like,, going down memory lane, in a way. for me, i still care an ABSURD amount abt the dmsp. it means so so so much to me, even to this day. and frankly i dont care if its 'cringe' these days (cringe isnt even real), i keep writing fanfic abt it and thinking abt it because it just *means so much to me*. the dsmp literally changed me as a person; i would not be who i am today. c!tommy is literally my favourite character of all time. i do not regret a single second of consuming content related to this silly minecraft roleplay. its just so fucking important to me.
so yeah, thank you for this video! its nice to see that people still care so much abt this smp (:
thank you for your service can’t wait to watch this while knowing anything and eveyrhting about this god forsakened SMP due to my 2020 dsmp phase,,,
I have a newfound respect for you holy shit, I already know all the lore but FOUR HOURS 0_0 the dedication is amazing
Oh man, it's been a while since I've thought about DSMP but with the new upload on Techno's channel, I dove back in and it's like a wave of it all is crashing back into my brain. I always followed the story from the POV of either Techno or Ranboo so it's super interesting to hear how things played out on Tommy's end! Thank you for making this video, it's a really good example of how the server is still important to people, even after all this time and everything that happened.
this video is awesome, it helped me so much to understand the lore because i started knowing and getting interested about the dsmp pretty late in the timeline. I always wanted to live the experience of sharing the lore moments with people who are also very excited about it, and genuinely you made me feel like i was watching it live, it was crazy the amount of emotion you brought me and i admire that a lot. Thank you so much, it shows that you put a lot of effort into this video and that you are really passionate, and that gives confident to try and be more open about what i like.
Best dsmp recap i've seen
pd. I don't know if since you published this video you've watched it but i really think you'd like las nevadas lore, and it's enough to watch the two videos of it on quackity's channel to understand it and get into it. I just like a lot as well the quackity and slimecicle duo, and the character growing in las nevadas is crazy.
dsmp completely changed my brain chemistry, traditional media is so boring now since the dsmp had So Many storylines and such depth to some of the characters (usually thanks to the fandom making headcanons and whatnot that added to them) i dont think ill ever get tired of mc rp now bc of it...
have you watched the VOD jack has on his channel? the one with c!tommy lore? it absolutely broke me. ‘are you happy?’ ‘getting there.’ C!TOMMY😭😭😭 i miss him so much
Phenomenal video wow, I really don't know how to explain what kind of emotions I went through when I watched this. I smiled, laughed, and screamed so many times that it took me back to when Dream SMP was still going. So many sleepless hours and waking up at 3 am in the morning to watch the new dream smp stream that i will never get back. The feelings and thought i had during those times were not great, but at least dream smp made me keep going forward. Man...
Thank you so fucking much for making this video, it made me remember what make me who I am now and to cherish the memories i had when I was 13 years old. That final part where you said you cried when you were writing the script almost made me cry. Again thank you so much for this video, genuinely a contender for the best of this year.
the only dsmp lore stream i ever watched was tommy's finale and thats it so this is interesting :D
This is amazing. Also Wilbur's my favorite. Also, I love how Phil's heart was the only heart with the Hardcore texture.
Edit: I wish that I got to experience this ENTIRE server when everyone was live, and it was happening for the first time, and all the hype. But no, of course I found out about the Dream SMP after it ended. Also, the Wilbur ending is so good.
Edit 2: It is so good, I came back a second time to watch it all over again.
Someone who knows the lore despite never watching anyone but Techno: HELL YEA
just got to the end of the video- wilbur saying to tonmy “i met you again” makes so much sense knowing what eret/wilbur(?) had planned for the finale of the series! not only does this imply smpearth is canon, but that its just one of many timelines theyve met in. i think lmanburg is a complete metaphor for tommy, it explains why theres so many versions of lmanburg in the dsmp alone
God I remember too much. Bro. I feel like I just dissociated for 5 hours and got transported back to 2020 😭 I love you, thank you so much for making this video!!!
yo! i just watched this with some of my friends on discord and we really liked it . its cool revisting dsmp lore after a while. ^_^
I was in the vc, also Quit Geeking and lock tf in.
I can’t believe you took thousands of hours and summarized it in four!
Thank you, i was still in the part where They Exiled Tommy and this 4 hours video helped me understand a lot about dsmp
What a wonderful video! I really enjoyed learning about how it all started, because never bothered to find out about it, despite watching all the rest. A lovely recap.
this video already has a bunch of comments so im not sure if this one will be seen at all, but im gonna comment it anyway: youve done an absolutely phenominal work with this!
as someone who was deeeep in the twitter hole during quarantine (of course lmao) and was frequently seeing updates and fanart etc. from the dsmp fandom but was never into it myself, youve honestly given me such a cool different pov of it. i remember being in the deep deep hole of scary, depressing news during the lockdown, being tired and annoyed every day and finding so much solace and escapism in my own little fandoms of the day. i remember the fun, the discourse, the absolute chaos that were twitter fandoms back in the day and i remember how much they helped me cope. i still hold memories of those fandoms so truly near and dear to my heart, honestly probably more so than any fandom ive been in before or since, simply because they helped a lonely teenager like myself in the midst of 2020 so much. the fandoms i was in during that (the magnus archives and stellar firma haha) are technically still alive, but the feeling that 2020-21 fandoms was something else for sure.
while i was watching this video, i could see the same love and joy you have for this piece of media that i had for my quarantine fandoms, and all i can say is thats just awesome and im really happy this one brought you sm joy! this video was so well put together, i can tell a ton of effort went into it, and even as someone who never cared about the dsmp before, i found myself getting swept up in your happiness and excitement and i started to get really invested. especially after cwilbur died honestly lmao.
tldr, really good work and keep it up!!
I'd never watched dream smp. but I've definitely heard about it, I'll tell you that. I came across this video and planned on watching it in the background while cleaning my bedroom. but here I am, pages and pages of notes about the lore. this is a lot more then I originally thought it was. I just thought it was a stupid Minecraft server. I didn't think about the lore. I didn't care. I think I care now. I still don't completely understand, I don't even know if people who went along with it at the time do. but I understand a little more now. it'll be cool to understand a little bit of a new fandom. but this is a lot. so, thank you. thank you to dsmp fans new and old. thank you for reading this little rant of mine. thank you. I wish you all well :)
Oh my god, it makes me so happy to hear this from someone who had no idea about the lore previously. I did make this video for DSMP fans past and present, but I also really wanted for people to have the experience of clicking on a long video about media they've never consumed for background noise and getting invested in the story because of it. I'm glad this could help you understand a little more why this was so important to people (and important to me, obviously) and what the hype was all about! Thank you so much for the sweet comment :)
Oh wow the energy of that recounting and of the Tommy Exile Finale was just so-
So many emotions, that was amazing to listen to omg. Exact same feeling as dramatically retelling things about my own blorbos, but someone else is doing the talking and compelling me to their blorbo instead Oh My Gosh
9:54 vox: “trust us with your safety..” IDK WHY IT REMINDS ME OF IT😭🙏
you know one day when we all grow up well remember the good old dsmp times with a smile..... that was one of my happiest phases
10/10 recap, would watch again ! Would however, NOT listen to while trying to sleep again, pretty sure my insomnia got worse, but it was a good video so it's worth it ! Now I can retell the whole lore to my friends (they do not care) !