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I feel like the Dwellers Below is a must for a Durthu Build, just because so many times it comes down to him being mobbed at the end. Even if you don't end up using it... having it in your back pocket is really nice.
I am reminded of a scene from an episode of Matt Smith's Doctor Who, where the Daleks admit that the insane Daleks contained in their asylum were not exterminated on the grounds that said insane Dalek's hatred was beautiful. The Doctor naturally being disgusted by this revelation. I'm guessing that, as much as a rage-filled tree that he is, Durthu would most likely be disgusted if his hatred was praised by Khornate daemons of all things. A case of _"Your approval fills me with shame"._
Jesus you just really don’t understand how strong the hellforged host is until there fighting againts units with 50 MD plus and killing them in 10 seconds
A large part of that was cause of how much they infiltrated the unit. It wasn't them attacking the front wall of spears and only exposed to however many are in the front, but every single demon had contact with a separate unit.
@@Zayl1016 Unless the eternal guard had been braced it wouldn't have mattered. 52 damage+13 anti-infantry+36 charge means the eternal guard are straight up getting one shot on by initial charge attack.
@@Swampert919 true enough! and it isn't like there are no ways to get around them like shooting or magic. so they are allowed to be that good in a brawl.
I feel like flesh hounds could have a 100 gold cost increase and would still be an auto include in a lot of matchups. I get that khorne needs anti backline units, but they are pretty oppressive for their cost.
With no magic and only one very shitty ranged unit of their own, they need strong back line harassers like Flesh Hounds. Let's maybe take a moment and see how the faction holds up in MP overall before we nerf another unit into oblivion.
I just want to say that you produce the best multiplayer battles on the platform. Other content creators just tend to hover over the battlefield with a few failed attempts at close-ups. But your style of filming is great. You even take time to provide cinematic shots of key moments. The only man that rivals your quality is Zerkovich himself.
I was very happy with the Exalted Balrog play! Just be patient, use up all the breath attacks, take easy fights and then save the hard ones for last. It is the same with N'kari. You do not want to YOLO your precious Greater Daemons into the things that can actually hurt them!
I think the life caster could have got away in straight lines. Changing pathing slows and stutters the unit just enough to let charge animations kick in. GG either way. This was my theory craft build with Khorne vs ranged but I want furies over more dogs if I can adjust the costs somewhere. Cool to see if played correctly it could maybe handle a counter rush melee build.
i think the biggest weakness in your build was the glade riders to me they just seem worthless to bring as well khornes not gonna be bringing any squishy archers or anything and yk u need units like hunter of kurnos to win v hounds i think zoats could be a big winner in this matchupif you are trying to match khorne in melee like here
Those glade riders are pretty essential for screening against flesh hounds. Even if they don't do a whole lot of damage, they can defend the bladesingers and soak up charges long enough for Durthu to come over.
All of this good Immortal Empires content out there but I must say yours is the best. I like your commentary and how you aren't afraid to try risky but interesting builds. Keep up the good work.
glade riders with hagbane tips might be really good for dealing with hounds. They are fast, have magic ammo, and with the poison slowing the hounds, they just won't be able to catch you. the poison willalso just help in general to blunt their damage dealing capibilities so they don't right through you quite so fast.
Bromance im so happy that you are releasing IE battles now. TWW3 were ok but they felt the fatigue of the months after release. Keep em coming u hottie u.
Very valiant attempt to melee rush the best melee rush faction in the game. Biggest problem is khorne warriors, pretty much all of them for wood elves. Eternal guards have AP, but are meant for anti large mostly so their attack is too low to hit warriors consistently. Blade singers are best really, but are really expensive and wardancers..I think they have the worst time. Their so low in hp and armor that any bloodletter will send them to a early grave and warriors have high armor/def that will grind down wardancers as well
I look forward to crushing any chaos force that encroaches on any sacred forest of the wood elves once Immortal Empires is released. Wood elves have some of the most fun campaign mechanics. They are soooo great at ambush tactics! I think all wood elves, including Durthu, really need a core of high-end missiles. That's what was really missing in this match up.
Is there anyway you can include if it's Domination or field battle, like in the description? I don't get the same enjoyment watching a Domination battle like I do with a field battle. Almost skipped the video aftet not seeing a description. Sorry if you've already addressed that and I missed it. P.S. Big fan of your channel, thanks for all you do!
Damn what a sick battle dude. Great match. Pretty close especially considering what happened to the winter heart guard. Unit should be triggered to ignore initial order and start defending itself in a situation like that. I wonder if less cav and/or spears and more blade singers/add some tree kin in (firebark elders for fire resist?) would work for a melee rush. Blade singers might lose dmg on the charge to flesh hounds but think could cut thru their model count, treekin support would help. Maybe wardancers/Asrai spears for cheaper option depending on cost. Curious also how dryads might trade into bloodletters compared to eternal guard also given they do high dmg to low armor and have magic attacks despite any fire dmg they might take.
u get a lot of requests ofcourse but i can't wait to see a battle of warriors of chaos vs khorne, to be precise skarbrand vs kholek to see just who got the most brute power. keep up the good work man!
This is the first replay i've seen where khorne didn't get stomped into the ground, very satisfying! Albeit they were up against a build that favors them lol
Swiftshiver shards will be a must against all Demons, but especially Khorne. Having a core of Deepscouts or Glade Guard will tear through with the magical attacks, at least in campaign. I’m not a multiplayer person for Total War, but for a kite build I’d say Deepwood Scouts w/Swiftshiver Shards would not be a misplay and would in fact be incredibly helpful with the Strider they have.
Hey Indy, did Khalida get any buffs or is she still just a meme lord? And besides the Realm of Souls buff the TKs got, did they get anything else in the buffs department?
that spellsinger might've won the fight vs the remaining 14 fleshhounds at 12:30 but the move orders kept her from doing any damage and lead to her death.
So i havent done the math on this, but how about blobbing with the firebark elders and a branchwraith?(u still get earth blood but also shadow magic and that nice melee attack aura) Durthu and the bladesingers performed great so u keep those, maybe even get a third one (again not quite sure on the maths here), also get 4 eternal guard to protect the flanks and rear of the singer core. I dont think u can contest the fleshhound mobility on the ground here just because any khorne player in his right mind will bring tons against WE. But i think u could get away with hawk riders. Their only threat are furies and big scary demon and they should have enough speed to kite both of these. Furies u could probably kill in melee after a bit of kiting aswell (espescially with magic support, earth blood and/or eagle summon). And if the bloodthirster decides to chase after them, thats already great for you since he wont impact the battle in other ways. Naturally this would only work in land battles, like most blob builds.
Only the Bloodletters, Bloodthirsters and Skullcannons do fire, I think But The would've absolutely been valuable Eternal Guard did nothing. Having some treekin to support those bladesingers, or firebark elders to contest the hellforged host would've gone a long way
I wonder how Vampire Counts will fare against Khorne. Will they be able to cast enough spells in the span of the few seconds it will take for bloodletters to shred their skellies? Will their monstrous units be enough to match the monstrous fury of Khornate Warriors?
I wonder if Ogres would especially love fighting Khorne, considering their appetites would be riled up from the promise of fresh and hot Khorne dogs and lots of manflesh that's pre-tenderized due to constant combat and spicy with magical rage. :P
Guessing this was an agreed upon (no ranged units) match? Cause otherwise you would think anyone would use the elite ranged WE units to destroy Khorne units typically
nope just trying to catch Khorne off guard. Khorne can go very wide and bring tons of shielded chaos warriors though, so shooting isn't necessarily an easy victory/automatic choice either
This isn't meant as criticism because I've never played multiplayer so I'm just curious, but what's the reasoning behind fielding a wood elf army with no ranged units? Isn't that one of their main strengths as a faction?
Trying to catch out Khorne with his pants down, essentially. Fielding a wide build with lots of shielded chaos warrios would probably work reasonably well for Khorne against a ranged focused build. So the wood elves going melee rush against Khorne, could've been a nice idea. Unfortunately it didn't go down that well. Those Flesh Hounds are a big reason why, I'd say. Though the exalted bloodletters RoR did a good amount of work as well.
That sweet element of surprise. Everyone expects wood elves to have archers. Against high elves I do full melee rush, for example (partially because I was frustrated that glade guard are more expensive than high elf archers but have less range lol).
daaaaaaaaaaang those flesh hounds are brutal! I'm curious as to what units old world factions will use to counter them. Definitely not other cav units lol (unless they're anti large)
Winterheart Guard also weren't braced, meaning they didn't get their charge defense. With the Hellforged already having 50+ MA and then getting another 36 off the charge, it's not as suprising as it may seem at first. Considering their high WS and CB they probably very nearly one-shot the Winterheart models when charging.
You should have tried a Durthu-led Drycha army with Coeddil, treemen, treekin, dryads, and a variety of animals. That would be a far better army -- albeit more geared toward late game -- to fight against Khorne. In an actual campaign battle, once Drycha gets the amber techs for anti-fire, poison, and treemen having their damage aura, I'm pretty confident they can win against pretty much any faction.
@@jtowensbyiii6018 You're right, I should have been more clear. The first paragraph is referring to an actual experiment; the second, I'm merely discussing theory.
I figured that dryads would trade far more cost effectively than eternal guard or blade singers. between that and so much magic attacks in cheap infantry (deepwood scouts, dryads, one of the variants of gladed guard) you can just go wide and play combined arms high elf style in theory right? Also Orion can 1v1 any chaos lord at the moment correct?
for obvious reasons will get pasted by Daemonettes/Bloodletters. Get shot to pieces by Blue Horrors and Pink Horrors due to fire weakness/reliance on physical resistance (just a terrible unit vs Tzeentch in general, also get stomped by Forsaken). Wont trade well into Chaos Warriors, even lose to bonus vs. infantry Slaanesh Marauders. They're more a unit to bring against like, Skaven, where their speed and fear and physical resistance does something.
Wow. Those RoR Bloodletters are insane. There was a bit of micromanaging mistakes at play, but still. 54 melee defense should've saved the Glade Guards just a bit. I guess not though!
How would khorne do vs Sisters of twilight and a full arrow spam kite build? Other than flesh hounds speed or trying to tank through with chaos warriors, I don't see them winning that match up. No Khorne lord would survive the first 5 minutes lol.
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One of these entities is an ageless creature fueled by wrath, and the other is an Exalted Bloodthirster.
Nice.
angry due to short people took an eye
In the end khorne olways wins 🩸💀
@@daltonbarries3529 **Gotrek looks to Durthu**
“Did we just become best friends?
Khorne must hate fighting Wood Spirits. No blood OR skulls? Not worth it.
'SAP FOR THE BLOOD GOD' really doesn't have the same ring to it
Any blood or skulls works, so all those dead chaos warriors and bloodletter's is good enough for Khorne!
SAP FOR THE SAP GOD
BARK FOR THE BARK THRONE
NO BlOOD DLC YET, SAP FOR THE SAP THRONE!
Good kindling though...
I feel like the Dwellers Below is a must for a Durthu Build, just because so many times it comes down to him being mobbed at the end. Even if you don't end up using it... having it in your back pocket is really nice.
yeah that would be interesting. worth trying out!
it would have certainly made the difference in that one
I agree with you 100%. I was surprised to see Durthu without any spells
@@drifterodysseus6237 ya he lost gold bringing no spells, you pay for the caster tax to bring no spells is silly
I cannot fathom going up against Daemons, and thinking "I better leave the spells at home"
I am reminded of a scene from an episode of Matt Smith's Doctor Who, where the Daleks admit that the insane Daleks contained in their asylum were not exterminated on the grounds that said insane Dalek's hatred was beautiful. The Doctor naturally being disgusted by this revelation. I'm guessing that, as much as a rage-filled tree that he is, Durthu would most likely be disgusted if his hatred was praised by Khornate daemons of all things. A case of _"Your approval fills me with shame"._
another wordsmith joins Indy in the chat.... welcome good sir..
pre endtimes durthu would probably go "your approval fills me with rage!"
Durthu the (H?)Edge Lord
That last part is reminiscent of the "Dalek" episode, in season one, where the dalek in it tells The Doctor "you would make a good dalek."
A TVTropes enthusiast eh?
Jesus you just really don’t understand how strong the hellforged host is until there fighting againts units with 50 MD plus and killing them in 10 seconds
A large part of that was cause of how much they infiltrated the unit. It wasn't them attacking the front wall of spears and only exposed to however many are in the front, but every single demon had contact with a separate unit.
@@Zayl1016 I doubt it would have made to much difference in that entire fight they may have lost 3 models even if they were braced
@@Zayl1016 Unless the eternal guard had been braced it wouldn't have mattered. 52 damage+13 anti-infantry+36 charge means the eternal guard are straight up getting one shot on by initial charge attack.
I mean if any infantry deserved to be that insane in melee it’s RoR bloodletters… if khorne ain’t the best at melee something has gone wrong.
@@Swampert919 true enough! and it isn't like there are no ways to get around them like shooting or magic. so they are allowed to be that good in a brawl.
Oh my god indy you've been absolutely spraying us with sick content lately thank you so much
sure thing Seth lots more on the way!
never thought i would root for wood elfs over khorne, god damn this was a good battle
Root hehehehhehehehe
I feel like flesh hounds could have a 100 gold cost increase and would still be an auto include in a lot of matchups. I get that khorne needs anti backline units, but they are pretty oppressive for their cost.
they are extremely good lol
That is because hounds in WH2 were super thrash at doing anything but kiting.
They are a very vital unit for a faction with no range or spellcasting. So they should be adjusted with caution.
@@sworntoavenge Yeah the thing is khorne has no cheap units no ranged no magic so they need effective mobility or they are doomed.
With no magic and only one very shitty ranged unit of their own, they need strong back line harassers like Flesh Hounds. Let's maybe take a moment and see how the faction holds up in MP overall before we nerf another unit into oblivion.
Need to see Nurgle vs VC
GIND OH GLORIOUS GRIND
A six hour battle.
it shall happen!
I just want to say that you produce the best multiplayer battles on the platform. Other content creators just tend to hover over the battlefield with a few failed attempts at close-ups. But your style of filming is great. You even take time to provide cinematic shots of key moments.
The only man that rivals your quality is Zerkovich himself.
The winter heart eternal guard? more like the melting heart temporary guard!
Glad to see that the Bladesingers have had that weird green flame effect on their swords toned down a lot.
Great match - was really surprised by the premise and I was guessing right up until the end
I love the tactical analysis and the drawing on the replay, adds so much value to this video!
I was very happy with the Exalted Balrog play! Just be patient, use up all the breath attacks, take easy fights and then save the hard ones for last. It is the same with N'kari. You do not want to YOLO your precious Greater Daemons into the things that can actually hurt them!
These match ups are something I have been waiting a long time for. Absolutely awesome battle.
Dirthu wasn't trapped in there with them, they were trapped in there with him!
I think the life caster could have got away in straight lines. Changing pathing slows and stutters the unit just enough to let charge animations kick in. GG either way. This was my theory craft build with Khorne vs ranged but I want furies over more dogs if I can adjust the costs somewhere. Cool to see if played correctly it could maybe handle a counter rush melee build.
i think the biggest weakness in your build was the glade riders to me they just seem worthless to bring as well khornes not gonna be bringing any squishy archers or anything and yk u need units like hunter of kurnos to win v hounds i think zoats could be a big winner in this matchupif you are trying to match khorne in melee like here
True, I was wondering about those as well.
Those glade riders are pretty essential for screening against flesh hounds. Even if they don't do a whole lot of damage, they can defend the bladesingers and soak up charges long enough for Durthu to come over.
All of this good Immortal Empires content out there but I must say yours is the best. I like your commentary and how you aren't afraid to try risky but interesting builds. Keep up the good work.
will do mate glad you're enjoying!
glade riders with hagbane tips might be really good for dealing with hounds. They are fast, have magic ammo, and with the poison slowing the hounds, they just won't be able to catch you. the poison willalso just help in general to blunt their damage dealing capibilities so they don't right through you quite so fast.
The old races are looking mighty beautiful in Warhammer 3’s improved visuals!
Chad Indypride showing new maps every video!
Bromance im so happy that you are releasing IE battles now. TWW3 were ok but they felt the fatigue of the months after release. Keep em coming u hottie u.
Woo! Finally getting to see Durthu against daemons
Bladesingers should have nurgling level animations, they are not nimble enough
When the wood chops back
I'm sorry Durthu didn't pull off the win but seeing him slap that Bloodthirster around was deeply satisfying.
Very valiant attempt to melee rush the best melee rush faction in the game. Biggest problem is khorne warriors, pretty much all of them for wood elves.
Eternal guards have AP, but are meant for anti large mostly so their attack is too low to hit warriors consistently. Blade singers are best really, but are really expensive and wardancers..I think they have the worst time. Their so low in hp and armor that any bloodletter will send them to a early grave and warriors have high armor/def that will grind down wardancers as well
I was asking this question! I love Wood Elves Melee, thanks for doing this.
Quack
You needed more redheads. Don't be shy next time, bring the ginger tide ! :P
Love your casting of this new multiplayer content. Looking forward to the all new matchups
Love these kinds of battles. So extremely close!
I'm loving seeing these older factions match up against the new
Thanks for the video
Make like a tree and... Branch.
"Today we'll be answering a question no one was asking." I'm not sure if I come here for fresh warhammer content or for that dry wit.
Ohh man, that feeling when you wish you had one more Sword of Daith.
"Make like a tree and get the hell out of here" gets the like and the subscribe
Love your videos man keep it up 🤙
Exalted bloodthirsters finally have eyes now! Halleluja!
It seems like this build needs at least a bit of archery, just to stop the Bloodthirster from getting all the value in the world from breath attacks.
I look forward to crushing any chaos force that encroaches on any sacred forest of the wood elves once Immortal Empires is released. Wood elves have some of the most fun campaign mechanics. They are soooo great at ambush tactics!
I think all wood elves, including Durthu, really need a core of high-end missiles. That's what was really missing in this match up.
Blood for the blood god!
your commentary is top shelf, great damn game... whew barn burner for sure... wp sir
Is there anyway you can include if it's Domination or field battle, like in the description? I don't get the same enjoyment watching a Domination battle like I do with a field battle. Almost skipped the video aftet not seeing a description. Sorry if you've already addressed that and I missed it.
P.S. Big fan of your channel, thanks for all you do!
"Not bad, not bad for a pointy eared elvish princeling..."
Damn what a sick battle dude. Great match. Pretty close especially considering what happened to the winter heart guard. Unit should be triggered to ignore initial order and start defending itself in a situation like that.
I wonder if less cav and/or spears and more blade singers/add some tree kin in (firebark elders for fire resist?) would work for a melee rush. Blade singers might lose dmg on the charge to flesh hounds but think could cut thru their model count, treekin support would help. Maybe wardancers/Asrai spears for cheaper option depending on cost.
Curious also how dryads might trade into bloodletters compared to eternal guard also given they do high dmg to low armor and have magic attacks despite any fire dmg they might take.
6:02
BladeSinger: Does a spinning slash attack
Khorne Warrior: *Yeet*
u get a lot of requests ofcourse but i can't wait to see a battle of warriors of chaos vs khorne, to be precise skarbrand vs kholek to see just who got the most brute power. keep up the good work man!
This is the first replay i've seen where khorne didn't get stomped into the ground, very satisfying! Albeit they were up against a build that favors them lol
Loved the play by play reporting, subscribed.
welcome to the channel!
Beautiful match, can't wait for immortal empires
Durthu is an absolute beast. Completely surrounded and still beating the shit out of him.
Great video!
Swiftshiver shards will be a must against all Demons, but especially Khorne. Having a core of Deepscouts or Glade Guard will tear through with the magical attacks, at least in campaign. I’m not a multiplayer person for Total War, but for a kite build I’d say Deepwood Scouts w/Swiftshiver Shards would not be a misplay and would in fact be incredibly helpful with the Strider they have.
Hey Indy, did Khalida get any buffs or is she still just a meme lord? And besides the Realm of Souls buff the TKs got, did they get anything else in the buffs department?
Is this available to all players or just the big youtubers?
This is early access. General release is next month.
That melee rush ran into a Buzzsaw.
Durthu is an absolute badass
that spellsinger might've won the fight vs the remaining 14 fleshhounds at 12:30 but the move orders kept her from doing any damage and lead to her death.
very unlikely for Spellsinger to win that fight. she'd just get staggered over and over after the surround. she was fleeing and for good reason
So i havent done the math on this, but how about blobbing with the firebark elders and a branchwraith?(u still get earth blood but also shadow magic and that nice melee attack aura)
Durthu and the bladesingers performed great so u keep those, maybe even get a third one (again not quite sure on the maths here), also get 4 eternal guard to protect the flanks and rear of the singer core. I dont think u can contest the fleshhound mobility on the ground here just because any khorne player in his right mind will bring tons against WE. But i think u could get away with hawk riders. Their only threat are furies and big scary demon and they should have enough speed to kite both of these. Furies u could probably kill in melee after a bit of kiting aswell (espescially with magic support, earth blood and/or eagle summon). And if the bloodthirster decides to chase after them, thats already great for you since he wont impact the battle in other ways.
Naturally this would only work in land battles, like most blob builds.
Do you think firebark elders could be a niche unit for the matchup for fire resist? Idk how common fire damage is for khorne though, don’t have WH 3
Only the Bloodletters, Bloodthirsters and Skullcannons do fire, I think
But
The would've absolutely been valuable
Eternal Guard did nothing. Having some treekin to support those bladesingers, or firebark elders to contest the hellforged host would've gone a long way
I like this matcup. NEver played itmyself.
I think i will try a mass cav with Durthu, maybe give him some blade singers and dryads with mass cav.
Loved this battle Indy! Not sure if Khorne will be able to combat sisters of twilight plus archer spam though.
they could probably, but I still have doubts since this is early access still
"Can the magical forest tree huggers out-melee the God of Melee?"
I wonder how Vampire Counts will fare against Khorne. Will they be able to cast enough spells in the span of the few seconds it will take for bloodletters to shred their skellies? Will their monstrous units be enough to match the monstrous fury of Khornate Warriors?
I approve of the boondocks saints reference
I keep saying "anti infantry infantry infantry infantry unit" to myself any time the Hellforged Host do something in this match.
Those bladesingers will make great deamonettes 😈
Safe to say, Flesh Hounds might need some tuning^^. The speed + mass + dmg output seems a bit too high for their price point.
Very intersting matchup and game!
More Wood Elves!! Asari Revenge!!
I wonder if Ogres would especially love fighting Khorne, considering their appetites would be riled up from the promise of fresh and hot Khorne dogs and lots of manflesh that's pre-tenderized due to constant combat and spicy with magical rage. :P
They'd hate it because daemons dematerialise when dead so they're left hungry
3:33 Dude you almost did something here
I feel like deepwood scouts with SSSs will give Khorne fits
Loving the Dawn of War 2 music 🎵 😉💜
Think the plan might be sisters of Thorne to kite and debuff khorne blobs/squishy khorne units. Maybe a single zoat and new dwellers is kinda insane!!
The rage quit of derpthu
Ouch lol
Guessing this was an agreed upon (no ranged units) match? Cause otherwise you would think anyone would use the elite ranged WE units to destroy Khorne units typically
nope just trying to catch Khorne off guard. Khorne can go very wide and bring tons of shielded chaos warriors though, so shooting isn't necessarily an easy victory/automatic choice either
@@milkandcookiesTW and it made for a BA video.
Pre-battle: Both these guys are very green. One side serves CORN, after all, which fits the Elves' diet just fine. :)
This isn't meant as criticism because I've never played multiplayer so I'm just curious, but what's the reasoning behind fielding a wood elf army with no ranged units? Isn't that one of their main strengths as a faction?
Was definitely a great battle regardless!
Trying to catch out Khorne with his pants down, essentially. Fielding a wide build with lots of shielded chaos warrios would probably work reasonably well for Khorne against a ranged focused build. So the wood elves going melee rush against Khorne, could've been a nice idea. Unfortunately it didn't go down that well. Those Flesh Hounds are a big reason why, I'd say. Though the exalted bloodletters RoR did a good amount of work as well.
That sweet element of surprise. Everyone expects wood elves to have archers. Against high elves I do full melee rush, for example (partially because I was frustrated that glade guard are more expensive than high elf archers but have less range lol).
daaaaaaaaaaang those flesh hounds are brutal! I'm curious as to what units old world factions will use to counter them. Definitely not other cav units lol (unless they're anti large)
I'm so excited to call the children of the old ones to rise up again for IE.
Winterheart Guard also weren't braced, meaning they didn't get their charge defense. With the Hellforged already having 50+ MA and then getting another 36 off the charge, it's not as suprising as it may seem at first. Considering their high WS and CB they probably very nearly one-shot the Winterheart models when charging.
You forgot the anti-infantry. They were hitting 101 MA and 93 damage off the charge. They were absolutely one-shotting models.
Yeh, I was surprised to see them charge at all if I'm honest.
You should have tried a Durthu-led Drycha army with Coeddil, treemen, treekin, dryads, and a variety of animals. That would be a far better army -- albeit more geared toward late game -- to fight against Khorne.
In an actual campaign battle, once Drycha gets the amber techs for anti-fire, poison, and treemen having their damage aura, I'm pretty confident they can win against pretty much any faction.
What? This isn't campaign
@@jtowensbyiii6018 You're right, I should have been more clear. The first paragraph is referring to an actual experiment; the second, I'm merely discussing theory.
Indy, how does your game look so good?
I figured that dryads would trade far more cost effectively than eternal guard or blade singers. between that and so much magic attacks in cheap infantry (deepwood scouts, dryads, one of the variants of gladed guard) you can just go wide and play combined arms high elf style in theory right?
Also Orion can 1v1 any chaos lord at the moment correct?
Yeh, I was thinking Dryads are the way.
Dryads are pretty awful against most/all Daemons in my experience. but perhaps to screen in a skirmish heavy playstyle they could roadblock alright
@@milkandcookiesTW Surprising. Is it a lack of MD or something?
for obvious reasons will get pasted by Daemonettes/Bloodletters. Get shot to pieces by Blue Horrors and Pink Horrors due to fire weakness/reliance on physical resistance (just a terrible unit vs Tzeentch in general, also get stomped by Forsaken). Wont trade well into Chaos Warriors, even lose to bonus vs. infantry Slaanesh Marauders. They're more a unit to bring against like, Skaven, where their speed and fear and physical resistance does something.
@@milkandcookiesTW I see, thanks for the tips!
How can i get in early into the new units of immortal empires as well?
those elves were paper LMAO
Durthu looking a bit like the Joker with that colour scheme.
Would love to see Brettonia vs Slaanesh, who truly wears the Cav crown?
best 2/3 on this one! DO IT
Wow. Those RoR Bloodletters are insane. There was a bit of micromanaging mistakes at play, but still. 54 melee defense should've saved the Glade Guards just a bit. I guess not though!
Bro those Winterheart Guard only lasted twice as long as I do in bed
How would khorne do vs Sisters of twilight and a full arrow spam kite build?
Other than flesh hounds speed or trying to tank through with chaos warriors, I don't see them winning that match up. No Khorne lord would survive the first 5 minutes lol.
I feel like those flesh hounds are gonna be a real problem for the older races
Durthu is TREEMENDOUS!
(RIP)