@@Occident. like the mixed race uk tv adverts i boycott and dont buy their products but i suppose g. sorros will make up the diff with our stolen taxes
During his trial he said openly in court that any blacks who disagreed with his approach should have their tongues cut out. How kindly and grandfatherly of him.
He did have a sense of humour. Apparently he was the heavyweight champion of Uganda and when asked why he replied that no one had the courage to fight him! On a serious note a family of (genuine) Ugandan Asians moved next door to us in the early 70’s. They left with nothing but a suitcase..
Also his views on his fellow Indians. He was more than happy to stick with the caste system, keeping the status quo & so allowing a plentiful supply of untoutchables to do the most dangerous work for just a few rupees a day.
1) Concerning Mandela's jail sentence. The crimes he committed were shamelessly criminal, and included no heroic acts. In fact, it is still a mystery why Percy Yutar (the then state attorney) did not file for murder, but manslaughter instead. Based on the facts it is commonly agreed by legal scholars that Mandela would have been hanged if Yutar filed for murder. You can easily get access to the case and you will find facts that the media, for whatever reason, prefer to ignore. 2) They often show Mandela's cell on Robben Island. That is not where he spent most of his time. He later lived in a house under so-called "arrest". It was comfortable if not luxurious, and most people work every day of their lives for the privilege to live in something not nearly as good as that. Why do they never show photographs of that? 3) What is really mind-boggling is the fact that while he was in the "house jail" he had free access, on account of the S.A. tax-payers, to telephone, fax and other communicating facilities to organize the ANC. That is why he was still the leader when he was "released". 4) You already know of the terrible deeds he ordered for his own people who disappointed him. He has many murders of his own on his hands. 5) He was supposedly in "jail" for 20 or more years. One would expect that he had a negligible income in that time. Yet when he and his wife were divorced about 4 years after his "release" he had to pay her millions in settlement. Where did these millions come from? Who else could earn millions in 4 years from a salaried job after taxes? Obviously something is seriously wrong. You find out where all that money came from and you will discover a lot about Mandela that the press never report. 6) Once he left "jail" (the house the government provided) he moved into a very luxurious home in one of the richest suburbs of Johannesburg. However, he kept a little four-room house in Soweto and pretended to live there. That is where he would interview reporters and where photographs were taken. What a liar and bigot. I cannot believe that the press did not know this. It simply played along to sell this falsehood of a hero and martyr. These are six leads that anyone from S.A. should be able to confirm easily with documentary proof. Mandela is a murderer and a liar. He only lived in "poverty" when it suited him.
Our once Beautiful country of South Africa has been plundered by the ANC communists!! They have destroyed the infrastructure and continue to do so. We now also have reverse Apartheid where the 3 minority groups , ''White / Coloured (mixed race) and Indians are marginalized.
Every incident can be spun They needed a focal point, a rallying point. A figurehead to get the eventual outcome they wanted Mandela was that figurehead Floyd was the figurehead for massive societal change in the US Stephen Lawrence was chosen in the U.K. and acted as the blueprint for Floyd Why he wasn’t tried for murder was because he was a ‘political prisoner’, not a common criminal The establishment have been working on this undermining of the Western democracies since the 60’s starting with the complete destruction of Rhodesia. It doesn’t matter if it works or if peoples lives are demonstrably worse. As long as white peoples aren’t in charge
An opportunist of note, used his position to create this mythical man of peace and justice, which led to living a grand life of luxury and further opportunities. The post Mandela era has resulted in the ANC using his name to promote their criminal government as a model similar to their idol, we're not all fooled as are the blind sheeple.
On Dutch TV it was claimed that Mandela went to jail because he was black. That he was a trained terrorist is never mentioned. That he benefited from society by getting a lawyers degree is ignored because poor oppressed people and so on. We only hear about Robbin Island but that he later lived in jail on the mainland with a private white cook is ignored. From jail he organised terror attacks like the one in 1983. From the time he was released in 1990 to 1994, 14 000 people were killed in a power struggle between Inkatha and the ANC. It was an extremely violent period. In fact this was a struggle for power, not freedom.
It's called r@ci@l pandering and coddling, the new global deception started since a very honest gentleman in the US collapsed for overdose, with a fake autopsy paid by his family stating something different, which allowed some innocent people being jailed to avoid another civil war in the US and changing the new global order. 😉
It's called pandering and coddling, the new global deception started after that a very talented gentleman in the US collapsed for overdose, even if a fake autopsy (plaid by his family) said something different! 😜
The connection was tongue to rectum, you guys adopted and nurtured the horror unleashed on South Africa, I remember those free mandela concerts and live aid etc, not so smug nowdays..
@@TOKOLOSHE100 At least we stopped you lot eating each other & selling your sisters as slaves,not to mention providing railways etc etc etc.Don't we deserve some credit for that?
Only the black elite really benefi - live an unbelievably rich lifestyle. A small black middle class and massive poor population, dependent on social grants, also large illegal immigrant population who take the low level jobs because they can be informally and cheaply employed. Tiny white population, mostly middle class, with a large proportion working overseas but fast becoming poorer. Government policies exclude the whites and poor from the formal job market due to labour policies.
I wonder whether the SA Black people wonder about that, while they sit in the dark during the the constant power blackouts, as SA slides backwards to a preindustrial society.
@@Elijah.Ben.BENJAMIN54 hello Elijah, have you ever visited South Africa? What does “white bread should taste some karma” actually mean? Try to speak plainly (if possible).
@@anna-mariedupreez542 Returning the country to what it used to be in tribal times is their goal. No modern technology of any description. They don't understand that money will vanish as well.
Many devoted fans of pop stars are wilfully blind, giving unquestioning devotion to their deified idols. They ignore the inconvenient fact that being an entertainer doesn’t necessarily mean that you are a geo political expert or an arbiter of world moralities. Personal example and family life is also sadly lacking in many of these purveyors of so called good causes.
@@woz7379 nothing SPECIAL any of those songs.i remember seeing on a toilet wall in the 80s "FREE NELSON MANDELA" Some wag wrote underneath "WITH EVERY 4 GALLONS"
Yer all bloody racist to de core, dem black laddies are doing a great job of running dat country intae de ground…. 😂😂😂 Time tae get the “5 million or so” blanche brothers out of there, before they get butchered ! Perhaps the orange man bad will give them a place tae live ? Only problem is, if they all up and go to the states 🇺🇸 the whole shibang will go down the drain……. 🎉 Just saying ….. 😎
All over Africa there are statues to Slavers, Child-Killers and Grand Larcenists. I suspect the same is true in most Asian countries. Perhaps the woke-minded would like to turn their attention there?
Bombed a Church full of families and was kept in prison because he did not want to reject violence. And he knew all along his Winnie butchered Stompie.
As with much - if not most - of Africa, once the Europeans left, the whole continent became a tinder box, with a great deal of cross-border fighting, much of which still exists today. As for South Africa, don’t be fooled by the modern, flashy buildings of Jo’burg. It’s a cesspit of corruption
He was imprisoned, but years later he won, was released as a national hero, and even gets statues as far afield as here. Lessons to be learned for our political prisoners from this summer. They've got to get at least as serious as Mandela.
I got the standard USA "education" and thought Mandela was just another peaceful activist until I started reading between the lines. I'm glad there are sagacious individuals such as yourself keeping the truth alive, while the powers that be continually attempt to alter history and memory hole inconvenient facts such as this.
Funny story to tell. During the Mandela hysteria of the early 90s, my father was an accountant for the local council. One of his female colleagues, was a typical leftie type. She had a framed picture of Mandela on her desk. Father pretended not to know who it was? She said "it's Nelson Mandela, surely you heard of him"? My old man said...."of course but I can't name the pop group he was in". 😂😂😂😂
I hate to say it about one of my heroes, but Peter Gabriel, are you listening too? It was partly due to him that I took the wrong left path in the early 80's. I never liked Bono. Partly because his name isn't pronounced the way it's written.
He once hosted a dinner for various celebrities and included Liberian warlord, Charles Taylor on the guest list, who gave supermodel Naomi Campbell blood diamonds as a gift.
@@alanmorris1831 Apparently so. Thousands of pounds worth of donations were used to pay for a luxury hotel stay in Cannes, France for Campbell as well as spa treatments, room service and cigarettes. Only 8.5% of the charity’s overall expenditure went on charitable grants in a six-year period from 2016.
@@n30418 so is the indian caste system but you don't see protests about that though.over 20 years ago i saw a upper caste indian ordering his lower caste ones friends about i told him this is england not india so dont pull that shit here.
@@markstarmer3677 it was a shithole for everyone except the w when apartheid was in place. due to the wealth imbalance and lack of education that was caused by apartheid, south Africa is not as good as it could be.
@@n30418 Yeah and how's that morally wrong? It kept our people safe and now we are not. Maybe the SA's knew the nature of the beast. Culture has a huge impact. So who's culture do you want to be a part of? Maybe everyone wasn't meant to be smashed together. Birds of a feather, so on and so forth. Frankly I don't care how other races choose to live or practice their own culture. I just don't care to be subjected to it. They have no problem expressing their hatred of the white race. Fine, then let us have our own areas in peace..without having to worry about what could happen to our children if they go out to play. I remember the days of not having to worry about that, nor did I have to lock a door to feel safe in my own home.
Prior to those events, Mandela had his own lawfirm.He had the means to defend his cause the legal way, instead he chose to eliiminate those who didn't comply with his narrative.
SIMON: You hit the nail on the head (with regard to Mandela's 'exceptionalism') when you mentioned Mandela was a "Communist". The laws Communists make, do not apply to Com,munists; just as the SHARIA is worse for non-Muslims, than Muslims. Another parallel between these two sets of vile ideas.
say what you like it simply proves the point that before you win you are a terrorist but after you win you are a statesman,what happens between getting from one to the other is irrelevant once you have got there. white christian european men take note.
I always despised how they held Mandela up as some great figure. Here, in the US, we have a history of certain people coming up from the Caribbean to stir up trouble via the black community. Cuba was really good at it, and all under the direction of the Soviet Union and China. That's not counting all the trouble they stirred up in Central and South America as well.
Yea I grew up near a person from SA who despised him and explained to me. Then I went to go do my own research and turns out it was true. I got kicked out of my history class for bringing it up asking if the teacher had any idea of why he was arrested and thrown in prison
Yet you are utterly blind to the highly unethical actions successive American governments and the C.I.A were engaged in against Cuba; the Wotld’s biggest terrorists are America and it’s closest allies
I suggest a new film... 'Mandela the real man'... Mandela must be played by a white, gay actor .. the Police to be played by black David Lammy types.. Then the terrorist facts highlighted throughout the film..At the end of the film Mandela should be heard saying how he regretted destroying South Africa and helping to murder so many..
I'm in favour of such a plaque being installed. Just as I am also in favour of plaques being installed for Suffragettes and the feminist movement. Both these movements have at least one thing in common - Communism/Marxism.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb There is talk, Simon, that SS Reichsfuhreur Starmler has been playing with Sausages. And that injunctions are flying about to keep the lid on the story. What you put out, comes back! /
Like most people i always believed Mandela was a political prisoner who just disagreed with the government. In hindsight it had to be more than just that.
When becoming President Mandela paid himself a salary more than three times what De Klerk had been getting. His very first action was to claim land that had been set aside for South Africa's indigenous Khoisan people.
When Ken Livingstone stood for election as Mayor of London in 2000 the stated salary was £84k. As soon as he was elected he awarded himself a huge pay rise (I can’t find the exact figure).
Its interesting how communism or Marxism tends to be involved in this subject at some level. I highly recommend a tv series called the Americans,which is about Russian agents living in America for decade,who have American accents and have children who know nothing about their parents double life. This is supposed to be quite an accurate account of life during the 60s 70s and 80s. I mention this,because in this series,there were black American civil right groups working closely with Russian agents,who both had a shared goal. Rolling on to our decade,Black lives matters seem to have the same connections.
Find any revolutionary organisation and hard left politics will be in it pushing its agendas. Mostly they involve state control for the many and wealth for the few.
Glad you have shown this history! he was jailed for a reason! He was sent to Robin Island because he was a dangerous person! Now the people 'glamorize him'! Madness!
Nelson Mandela was a terrorist ... he reformed a lot of course ... but 27 years in prison might be part of the explanation to that. Mandela and Ghandi could not be more different
My Grandfather was in the British Army in India. The story passed down in my family, is that he booted Ghandi up the arse. My family are so proud. We still laugh about it now. Typical of our lot. We don't f*** around. 😂
They don't mention his followers forcing those who thought otherwise to drink cooking oil or get burnt with a car tyre around there neck his wife was convicted of murdering a 12yr old and was refused entry into Canada as his wife
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Don't hold your breath waiting for anything negative to be exposed about him.
I remember getting a 'Free Nelson Mandela' with every packet of 'Coco Pops'. Also had a game that you could cut out of the back of the packet, one was where you'd bust him out of jail through a maze picking up money and houses along the way and another where you'd cut out loops and try and 'hoopla' them over the heads of the cut-out guys sitting cross-legged. The, 'Nelson Necklace' game I think it was called.
Time you did a video on the history of South Africa explaining when and from where the Muntus came from and what they did to the indigenous populations when they arrived.
This whole area - “political violence” - is full of “fun facts” - it’s a fact that Gerry Adams - one of the “Architects of the Good Friday Agreement” - denies he was ever a member of the IRA. That’s like Paul McCartney denying he was ever a member of the Beatles 😅 !!!!
you cannot call anyone fighting to rid themselves of foreign overlords a terrorist and if the overlords are not open to reason then alternatives have to be explored and lots of brits are starting to understand that now, nobody called the french resistance fighters terrorists except their overlords of course.
Look, whatever you say about this great man makes no difference. Just look at South Africa and its prosperity decades ago and look how much it has changed and improved now that Saint Mandela changed it to a utopia for all. 👍
Yes, indeed. The demographic to which St. Mandela belonged seems to have a gift for creating utopias - just look at cities such as Detroit, Chicago, & Memphis in the US for proof.
From an African Town in Northern England. Our Nigerians are always smiling, do they know something we don't. Maybe it's because they have a country to go back to. We don't.
Not to forget that the sainted Gandhi was something of a racist in his time ........ but then these little peccadilloes are forgiven to the icons of the Far-Left.
South Africa and the people that lived there were better off before Mandela and his terrorists took over my brother lived there for over 40 years and I spent a lot of time there the people he murdered and tortured are never mentioned and I have no idea other than to pacify certain people there is a statue of him in this country or for that matter Mary Seagrove
Agreed, there needs to be plaques reafirming who the subject actually is. Several years ago my wife took my then 12 year old daughter to London, upon entering Trafalgar Square my wife said ''oh look, there's Nelson's column'', to which my daughter replied, ''Nelson Mandela ?''
I could never understand why people sucked up to that dude. Mental amnesia. 🤔. 🇬🇧🏴 Ps. And living in palatial homes whilst everyone else livid in slums and that is still the case for his family to this day.
Hi Simon I Agree about Nelson Mandela..But Re Ghandi He during Partition by Claiming All the Dalits As Hindu aka untouchables Was directly Responsible for the deaths of 1.2 Million Dalits ..
Was a cobbled street in Camden London called Selious street I think, we used to settle differences on the cobbles as kids, had a junk / antique shop on corner which Orwell may have based the one in 1984 on..before I left my home town for good I noticed it was now called 'Mandela' Way...hmmmm..Only fools and horses anyone 😀 😅😂
There's a Mandela Way which runs parallel with the Old Kent Rd also in Peckham there's Pelican house on the Pelican Est which was renamed in the 80s to Mandela house both in South London so there's the Fool's and Horses connection.
Nelson Mandela and his wife winnie mandela who he divorced when he came out of prison. She did some terrible acrocities in his name. Which just seemed to be swept under the rug and forgotten about.
Look at South Africa now....Mandela effect
It's worse than long time ago! 😨
Superb work sir😂
Where are all the likes?
Your comment deserves a ton of them.
Mandela Effect! You clever bugger🎉👍
In ruins.
'Mandela effect' Lol
And they liked matches , petrol and car tyres.
@simontracey3920 Wasn't that his wife Winnie who went in for "necklacing"? Yes I always understood that Mandela was a criminal.
liked necklaces as well
Winnie's rubber necklaces..
What is Mandelas statue doing in our Parliament square to begin with ! Take it down.
8654 it needs a coat of paint from paint gun
It's there to tell you to take a knee
Its an antiWhite meme. Constantly in our face.
@@captainhurricane5705 this un jibby jabbied granny will never comply,, even if they chop my legs off,
@@Occident. like the mixed race uk tv adverts i boycott and dont buy their products but i suppose g. sorros will make up the diff with our stolen taxes
During his trial he said openly in court that any blacks who disagreed with his approach should have their tongues cut out. How kindly and grandfatherly of him.
Nelson Mandela has nothing to do with the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 😂😂😂
And?
What is your concern? Are you a 🙉?
Remove the statute of an South African CRIMINAL 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@HermanIngram what's the problem?
Well he has a statue by the houses of Parliament so I'm guessing that puts him one up on you in terms of British connections😂😂😂
What about a nice statue of Idi Amin he was a kindly sort of a fellow!
Yes indeed, why not ask Dora Bloch for her support....oh sorry we can't, she's dead.
He also had a garage franchise.
He was a Nissan Main Dealer.
Big Daddy had a few based opinions.
He did have a sense of humour. Apparently he was the heavyweight champion of Uganda and when asked why he replied that no one had the courage to fight him!
On a serious note a family of (genuine) Ugandan Asians moved next door to us in the early 70’s. They left with nothing but a suitcase..
Ah, the good old Last King Of Scotland... Freeedommm!
His wife was an expert tyre fitter.
I think you mean necklace fitter.
The infamous Soweto necklace !
They could also put a plaque by Gandhi's statue, explaining his views on Africans. That might prove to be an eye opener for some.
The same thing for the grave of Karl Marx.
Also his strange behaviour towards his grand niece and other young girls.
@@JeffMilton-f8v let’s be honest - do you disagree with his views on Africans?
Also his views on his fellow Indians. He was more than happy to stick with the caste system, keeping the status quo & so allowing a plentiful supply of untoutchables to do the most dangerous work for just a few rupees a day.
What did he say about them?
They dont want the truth to get in the way of a good storey!
I think that we all look forward to the biopic of his life, played by Michael Caine.
Or even a bungalow!..😶🌫
Oy vey.
They don't want t'roof to get in the way of a good storey?
1) Concerning Mandela's jail sentence. The crimes he committed were shamelessly criminal, and included no heroic acts. In fact, it is still a mystery why Percy Yutar (the then state attorney) did not file for murder, but manslaughter instead. Based on the facts it is commonly agreed by legal scholars that Mandela would have been hanged if Yutar filed for murder. You can easily get access to the case and you will find facts that the media, for whatever reason, prefer to ignore. 2) They often show Mandela's cell on Robben Island. That is not where he spent most of his time. He later lived in a house under so-called "arrest". It was comfortable if not luxurious, and most people work every day of their lives for the privilege to live in something not nearly as good as that. Why do they never show photographs of that? 3) What is really mind-boggling is the fact that while he was in the "house jail" he had free access, on account of the S.A. tax-payers, to telephone, fax and other communicating facilities to organize the ANC. That is why he was still the leader when he was "released". 4) You already know of the terrible deeds he ordered for his own people who disappointed him. He has many murders of his own on his hands. 5) He was supposedly in "jail" for 20 or more years. One would expect that he had a negligible income in that time. Yet when he and his wife were divorced about 4 years after his "release" he had to pay her millions in settlement. Where did these millions come from? Who else could earn millions in 4 years from a salaried job after taxes? Obviously something is seriously wrong. You find out where all that money came from and you will discover a lot about Mandela that the press never report. 6) Once he left "jail" (the house the government provided) he moved into a very luxurious home in one of the richest suburbs of Johannesburg. However, he kept a little four-room house in Soweto and pretended to live there. That is where he would interview reporters and where photographs were taken. What a liar and bigot. I cannot believe that the press did not know this. It simply played along to sell this falsehood of a hero and martyr. These are six leads that anyone from S.A. should be able to confirm easily with documentary proof. Mandela is a murderer and a liar. He only lived in "poverty" when it suited him.
Fascinating! Thank you. Corruption is still rife today 🤑
Our once Beautiful country of South Africa has been plundered by the ANC communists!! They have destroyed the infrastructure and continue to do so. We now also have reverse Apartheid where the 3 minority groups , ''White / Coloured (mixed race) and Indians are marginalized.
Every incident can be spun
They needed a focal point, a rallying point. A figurehead to get the eventual outcome they wanted
Mandela was that figurehead
Floyd was the figurehead for massive societal change in the US
Stephen Lawrence was chosen in the U.K. and acted as the blueprint for Floyd
Why he wasn’t tried for murder was because he was a ‘political prisoner’, not a common criminal
The establishment have been working on this undermining of the Western democracies since the 60’s starting with the complete destruction of Rhodesia.
It doesn’t matter if it works or if peoples lives are demonstrably worse. As long as white peoples aren’t in charge
An opportunist of note, used his position to create this mythical man of peace and justice, which led to living a grand life of luxury and further opportunities. The post Mandela era has resulted in the ANC using his name to promote their criminal government as a model similar to their idol, we're not all fooled as are the blind sheeple.
Wow! Thanks for sharing. I didn’t know any of this. It’s really interesting, especially how the West put him on a pedestal.
On Dutch TV it was claimed that Mandela went to jail because he was black. That he was a trained terrorist is never mentioned. That he benefited from society by getting a lawyers degree is ignored because poor oppressed people and so on. We only hear about Robbin Island but that he later lived in jail on the mainland with a private white cook is ignored. From jail he organised terror attacks like the one in 1983. From the time he was released in 1990 to 1994, 14 000 people were killed in a power struggle between Inkatha and the ANC. It was an extremely violent period. In fact this was a struggle for power, not freedom.
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A bit like Free Gear Keirs claim his dad was a toolmaker (he owned the toolmakers business rodney you plonker)
Exactly.
The same in Italy! A Saint! 🤣🤣🤣
And we heard not a word of any this in America. We were lied to, by the press and media.
His spouse was a bloodthirsty barbarian.
Yes, a perfectly normal South African black lady.
She was a monster!
The queen of necklacing.
Yes, from what I gathered, their black political rivals were most of their victims, who met ghastly fates at their hands.
Stompy Moeketsi.
Let's be honest,, that statue only exists to apease a certain demographic,, Mandela had no connection with Britain whatsoever,
waynenash6008
Very starkly put Wayne but fundamentally true
It's called r@ci@l pandering and coddling, the new global deception started since a very honest gentleman in the US collapsed for overdose, with a fake autopsy paid by his family stating something different, which allowed some innocent people being jailed to avoid another civil war in the US and changing the new global order. 😉
It's called pandering and coddling, the new global deception started after that a very talented gentleman in the US collapsed for overdose, even if a fake autopsy (plaid by his family) said something different! 😜
The connection was tongue to rectum, you guys adopted and nurtured the horror unleashed on South Africa, I remember those free mandela concerts and live aid etc, not so smug nowdays..
@@TOKOLOSHE100 At least we stopped you lot eating each other & selling your sisters as slaves,not to mention providing railways etc etc etc.Don't we deserve some credit for that?
Mr Webb is making an excellent point. History Debunked at its best!
@@GeezersExcitement And you seem to love terrorists and their statues don`t you ?
@@GeezersExcitement You silly boy Pike.
Which group?
Possibly. But it was disbanded in 1949. I think he was a child.
@@williamtell6750 Webb doesn’t debunk history, he attempts (but fails) to rewrite it in favour of the white colonialists
Thing is are the blacks in South Africa any better off with majority rule? Moot point....
50% unemployment today in SA.
Yes they are better, and I think white bread should taste some karma.
Only the black elite really benefi - live an unbelievably rich lifestyle. A small black middle class and massive poor population, dependent on social grants, also large illegal immigrant population who take the low level jobs because they can be informally and cheaply employed. Tiny white population, mostly middle class, with a large proportion working overseas but fast becoming poorer. Government policies exclude the whites and poor from the formal job market due to labour policies.
I wonder whether the SA Black people wonder about that, while they sit in the dark during the the constant power blackouts, as SA slides backwards to a preindustrial society.
@@Elijah.Ben.BENJAMIN54 hello Elijah, have you ever visited South Africa?
What does “white bread should taste some karma” actually mean?
Try to speak plainly (if possible).
Would be interesting to see a quality of life comparison, pre & post apartheid for the avarage bIk south african
I worked in Cape Town in the early 70's. More trouble between the different tribes than with any other section of society! They hated one another!
What is the value of quality of life if all colors do not live together?
Unemployment today in SA: 50%
@@Elijah.Ben.BENJAMIN54 High value
@@anna-mariedupreez542 Returning the country to what it used to be in tribal times is their goal. No modern technology of any description. They don't understand that money will vanish as well.
There is not a cat in Hell's chance of such a plaque being put up!
So all those pop songs and concerts were nothing but propaganda.
Many devoted fans of pop stars are wilfully blind, giving unquestioning devotion to their deified idols.
They ignore the inconvenient fact that being an entertainer doesn’t necessarily mean that you are a geo political expert or an arbiter of world moralities. Personal example and family life is also sadly lacking in many of these purveyors of so called good causes.
Like a lot of rich people (actors mainly) they like to be seen as left wing so as to be connected to their working class audience.
@@TPT6148 Who they patronise and greedily exploit.
@@woz7379 nothing SPECIAL any of those songs.i remember seeing on a toilet wall in the 80s "FREE NELSON MANDELA"
Some wag wrote underneath "WITH EVERY 4 GALLONS"
@@TPT6148 If there's any connection between middle class m@rksists and the working class, it's lost on me.
Things are going so well in SA now the natives are in charge.
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Yes, really! 😂😂 😂
Hahaha
Yer all bloody racist to de core, dem black laddies are doing a great job of running dat country intae de ground…. 😂😂😂
Time tae get the “5 million or so” blanche brothers out of there, before they get butchered !
Perhaps the orange man bad will give them a place tae live ?
Only problem is, if they all up and go to the states 🇺🇸 the whole shibang will go down the drain……. 🎉
Just saying ….. 😎
Truth hurts.
All over Africa there are statues to Slavers, Child-Killers and Grand Larcenists. I suspect the same is true in most Asian countries. Perhaps the woke-minded would like to turn their attention there?
Bombed a Church full of families and was kept in prison because he did not want to reject violence. And he knew all along his Winnie butchered Stompie.
Well she didn't do it herself, her 'football team' did it on her orders
As with much - if not most - of Africa, once the Europeans left, the whole continent became a tinder box, with a great deal of cross-border fighting, much of which still exists today. As for South Africa, don’t be fooled by the modern, flashy buildings of Jo’burg. It’s a cesspit of corruption
Guess who was pulling Mandela's strings from abroad?
Little hat people? 😜
Mandela certainly spent a lot of time with wealthy people, when he was eventually released, him and his mad wife!
Mandela was Xhosa Royalty.
Fr. Dougal McGuire had her number 😂
Mad wife who was a convicted criminal .....
He looks more like a khoi san... Where the money of this alleged monarchy came from? 😉
Yeah wealthy people of a certain Demograthic who funded him.
Yeah but he met the spice girls so he definitely needs a statue.
...and Beckham, don't forget him!
Also, why is the statue of a foreign politician (even ignoring the terrorist background) in Parliament Square?
Good point Giacomo , perhaps the next to be so honored will be Zelenski .
@@ghengiscant538😩
Because we live under occupation.
Systemic undermining
Because he's an anti White meme. Constantly in our face till we elect a Nationalist government who will melt it down.
He was also a Marxist and Soviet backed - similar to Mugabe..
To me it just goes to show how the left ignore any thing that does not support their ideas. Another good one Simon
We wouldn’t have been around but all thru the 1950s , 1960s and 1970s the left gave us a lot of nonsense about the USSR
How dare you tell the truth. Don't you know that's illegal these days.
busgreaser lol my first smile of the day, from un- con-vid jibby jabbed yorkshire granny
Depends on what "truth" is being told
They leave out why he was imprisoned, and give the suggestion it was because he was black
So that's where Ali G got his famous quote from
Grifters have gotten a lot of mileage (& money) out of the 'po' o' doun'troddn' blak fok' BS.
Standard tactic ... yawn ....
Grifters have certainly gotten a lot of mileage out of the 'po' o' doun'troddn' blak fok' scam.
He was imprisoned, but years later he won, was released as a national hero, and even gets statues as far afield as here. Lessons to be learned for our political prisoners from this summer. They've got to get at least as serious as Mandela.
We are being conditioned by the BBC and the advertising industry to fawn over pocs.
Mandela was a truly ghastly individual. He lived in luxury while SA President and did nothing for those he represented...
He did alot for them. He drastically shortened their lifespans
He greatly admired Che Geuvara, a mass murderer. Does that make you a a bad person?
@@Thenogomogo-zo3un A lot. Two words, not one.
@@englishciderlover7347 "Yes, Miss"
They never tell you about the terror & horror that was committed by Mandela and comrade's in the early 60's. I remember.
I got the standard USA "education" and thought Mandela was just another peaceful activist until I started reading between the lines. I'm glad there are sagacious individuals such as yourself keeping the truth alive, while the powers that be continually attempt to alter history and memory hole inconvenient facts such as this.
Funny story to tell. During the Mandela hysteria of the early 90s, my father was an accountant for the local council. One of his female colleagues, was a typical leftie type. She had a framed picture of Mandela on her desk. Father pretended not to know who it was? She said "it's Nelson Mandela, surely you heard of him"? My old man said...."of course but I can't name the pop group he was in". 😂😂😂😂
I remember him as a terrorist
We cant have the truth in the modern UK.
Bono are u listening?
Bonehead 😀
'Bono'
That's a good name for a dog food.
Sorry, Bono's deaf as a post mate.
I hate to say it about one of my heroes, but Peter Gabriel, are you listening too? It was partly due to him that I took the wrong left path in the early 80's. I never liked Bono. Partly because his name isn't pronounced the way it's written.
What’s the difference between God and Bono?
God doesn’t wander the streets of Dublin thinking he’s Bono.
He was arrested with a car boot full of explosives.
He had a human 💀 SKULL in his boot.....a disgusting sub species
At a house full of his comrades who were neither black nor white
Is ra el has dropped thousands of tonnes of b0mbs onto civillians, supplied by the US and the UK. A bit too much to fit into the boot of a car.
Being in possession of explosives doesn’t necessarily make one a bad person; Nelson was fighting against white terrorists.
@@Puffball-ll1lyOy vey.
Suprise, suprise 😏.
Sinner to saint and a statue to boot.
Most people don’t know he was a communist terrorist who killed people. Funny how that works…
He once hosted a dinner for various celebrities and included Liberian warlord, Charles Taylor on the guest list, who gave supermodel Naomi Campbell blood diamonds as a gift.
Is that the same Naomi Campbell who has just been banned from being a charity trustee for five years, for serious misuse of funds?
@@alanmorris1831 Apparently so. Thousands of pounds worth of donations were used to pay for a luxury hotel stay in Cannes, France for Campbell as well as spa treatments, room service and cigarettes. Only 8.5% of the charity’s overall expenditure went on charitable grants in a six-year period from 2016.
Yes it is
U can’t make this stuff up can U
Perhaps the plaque should be shaped like an old tyre.
stevedunn lol yes , from uk granny
lmao
And apartheid is wrong...why? Look at everything now!
Apartheid is wrong, but exists all over the world except in Western countries.
Why is this?
@@n30418 so is the indian caste system but you don't see protests about that though.over 20 years ago i saw a upper caste indian ordering his lower caste ones friends about i told him this is england not india so dont pull that shit here.
@@n30418 South Africa is more of a sh1t show now since black rule.
Zimbabwe is even worse.
@@markstarmer3677 it was a shithole for everyone except the w when apartheid was in place. due to the wealth imbalance and lack of education that was caused by apartheid, south Africa is not as good as it could be.
@@n30418 Yeah and how's that morally wrong? It kept our people safe and now we are not. Maybe the SA's knew the nature of the beast. Culture has a huge impact. So who's culture do you want to be a part of? Maybe everyone wasn't meant to be smashed together. Birds of a feather, so on and so forth. Frankly I don't care how other races choose to live or practice their own culture. I just don't care to be subjected to it. They have no problem expressing their hatred of the white race. Fine, then let us have our own areas in peace..without having to worry about what could happen to our children if they go out to play. I remember the days of not having to worry about that, nor did I have to lock a door to feel safe in my own home.
Prior to those events, Mandela had his own lawfirm.He had the means to defend his cause the legal way, instead he chose to eliiminate those who didn't comply with his narrative.
The South Africans were way to soft. Ham strung by religion.
Even the lefty Amnesty International refused to support him because he refused to renounce violence.
Why has he even got a statue in the UK?
Pandering and coddling a well known demographic! 😜
SIMON: You hit the nail on the head (with regard to Mandela's 'exceptionalism') when you mentioned Mandela was a "Communist". The laws Communists make, do not apply to Com,munists; just as the SHARIA is worse for non-Muslims, than Muslims. Another parallel between these two sets of vile ideas.
say what you like it simply proves the point that before you win you are a terrorist but after you win you are a statesman,what happens between getting from one to the other is irrelevant once you have got there.
white christian european men take note.
I always despised how they held Mandela up as some great figure.
Here, in the US, we have a history of certain people coming up from the Caribbean to stir up trouble via the black community. Cuba was really good at it, and all under the direction of the Soviet Union and China. That's not counting all the trouble they stirred up in Central and South America as well.
Yea I grew up near a person from SA who despised him and explained to me. Then I went to go do my own research and turns out it was true. I got kicked out of my history class for bringing it up asking if the teacher had any idea of why he was arrested and thrown in prison
Yet you are utterly blind to the highly unethical actions successive American governments and the C.I.A were engaged in against Cuba; the Wotld’s biggest terrorists are America and it’s closest allies
@@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO hello..... todays subject is Mandela
@@williams4434 Looks like the gasbag was at it again - I knew the air stank for some reason.
The irony of an American accusing others of stirring.
I never knew the truth about Mr Mandela until I saw a scene from the Office and that prompted me to look into it, the BBC let that one slip through
Which episode was it, do you recall?
@@gentlemanranker9143 The Christmas special, Brent takes his dog into the Office
The ‘Nelson Mandela’ scene from The Office is on UA-cam. 😂
Very strange those woke people didn’t take down that monstrosity of a statue made by Eric gill,
Bb c.
He wasn't really imprisoned ...he had his own quarters and spent most of his time out and about with the prison warden visiting various people 🙄
Spot on Simon! Time to get it pulled down! I won't hold my breath though.
I suggest a new film... 'Mandela the real man'... Mandela must be played by a white, gay actor .. the Police to be played by black David Lammy types.. Then the terrorist facts highlighted throughout the film..At the end of the film Mandela should be heard saying how he regretted destroying South Africa and helping to murder so many..
I'd crowd fund that 😂
Lammy would be a good representation of any member of the current south african government
I'm in favour of such a plaque being installed. Just as I am also in favour of plaques being installed for Suffragettes and the feminist movement. Both these movements have at least one thing in common - Communism/Marxism.
Which is 'extremism'.
TV programmes on the virtues of suffragettes and their awful treatment _never_ mention that before 1884 most men couldn't vote either.
@@robertbrown3413
1914 you mean.
Only 40% of men had the vote during ww1
@@robertbrown3413
1918...men over 21
and women over 30.
But the women didn't fight the common man.
He said he is not j3w! Why this insistence? 😜
Good morning Simon.
Happy to see the nose has cleared up👍
Good morning! Yes, it seems to have done.
I second that!
Good morning to you both!
@@zen4men A very good morning to you zen4men.
indeed, had me worried for a bit there.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb
There is talk, Simon,
that SS Reichsfuhreur Starmler
has been playing with Sausages.
And that injunctions are flying about
to keep the lid on the story.
What you put out,
comes back!
/
Like most people i always believed Mandela was a political prisoner who just disagreed with the government. In hindsight it had to be more than just that.
that's the propaganda we're all fed from a young age
You believed that because you were conditioned to believe that. Everything about the Mandelas is lies.
Interesting stuff about putting tyres around people, filled with fuel, and them "spontaneously" combusting too .. Bless Winnie ...
When becoming President Mandela paid himself a salary more than three times what De Klerk had been getting.
His very first action was to claim land that had been set aside for South Africa's indigenous Khoisan people.
Wow, that’s interesting.
When Ken Livingstone stood for election as Mayor of London in 2000 the stated salary was £84k.
As soon as he was elected he awarded himself a huge pay rise (I can’t find the exact figure).
@@simondjangothe4349 Salamander ken
Its interesting how communism or Marxism tends to be involved in this subject at some level.
I highly recommend a tv series called the Americans,which is about Russian agents living in America for decade,who have American accents and have children who know nothing about their parents double life.
This is supposed to be quite an accurate account of life during the 60s 70s and 80s.
I mention this,because in this series,there were black American civil right groups working closely with Russian agents,who both had a shared goal.
Rolling on to our decade,Black lives matters seem to have the same connections.
There's absolutely no doubt about this - the whole 'blk power' movement came from the association of blk 'leaders" with c'nsts.
Find any revolutionary organisation and hard left politics will be in it pushing its agendas. Mostly they involve state control for the many and wealth for the few.
Mandela was no saint and his wife was not far behind in terms of having people killed but that is DIFFERENT: I wonder why?
Quite!
30 years on Robben Island?
Probably two weeks there.
Pretty good psyop.
Glad you have shown this history! he was jailed for a reason! He was sent to Robin Island because he was a dangerous person! Now the people 'glamorize him'! Madness!
Robben island
@@edwardlloyd2430 Oopps!
Nelson Mandela was a terrorist ... he reformed a lot of course ... but 27 years in prison might be part of the explanation to that. Mandela and Ghandi could not be more different
My Grandfather was in the British Army in India. The story passed down in my family, is that he booted Ghandi up the arse. My family are so proud. We still laugh about it now. Typical of our lot. We don't f*** around. 😂
I don’t think being in jail humbled him, he was being pragmatic, he didn’t want his skeletons in his closet opened.
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Could it be that I mentioned his wife?
What did you call her? 🤬
@@andrewst9797 She 'necklaced' people.
They don't mention his followers forcing those who thought otherwise to drink cooking oil or get burnt with a car tyre around there neck his wife was convicted of murdering a 12yr old and was refused entry into Canada as his wife
Don't hold your breath waiting for anything negative to be exposed about him.
That’s correct Simon and he is venerated by people who should have known better.
Thank you for bringing this to the fore. Most people have forgotten this.
I never forgot it.
Nor his wife.
Good morning Simon . The truth as always 👍
Thank you!
Thanks Simon. Someone needs to do an honestly detailed home-made plaque and attach it to this cuddly old sigh co path's plinth.
Was the statue in recognition to his service to necklaces?
Perhaps for his disposable of tyres!
His support for local football teams?
When he got word of the 365th one he called it a Goodyear.
To be fair, wasn't that Winnie Mandela?
@@dovetonsturdee7033 yes, that was his lovely wife that liked her necklaces, he just had a fondness for blowing people up.
You are forgetting the most important thing, Simon.
Free Nelson Mandela was a very catchy song!
I remember getting a 'Free Nelson Mandela' with every packet of 'Coco Pops'.
Also had a game that you could cut out of the back of the packet, one was where you'd bust him out of jail through a maze picking up money and houses along the way and another where you'd cut out loops and try and 'hoopla' them over the heads of the cut-out guys sitting cross-legged. The, 'Nelson Necklace' game I think it was called.
I prefer Nelson Mandela sings Blur ( Harry Enfield )
Time you did a video on the history of South Africa explaining when and from where the Muntus came from and what they did to the indigenous populations when they arrived.
Everyone should learn those facts.
Good morning Simon. I've been awake for 2 hours waiting for you to post.
Forgive me, I have been a bit of a slugabed today. I didn't rise until 6:30 AM.
@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb 😂😂😂
This whole area - “political violence” - is full of “fun facts” - it’s a fact that Gerry Adams - one of the “Architects of the Good Friday Agreement” - denies he was ever a member of the IRA. That’s like Paul McCartney denying he was ever a member of the Beatles 😅 !!!!
you cannot call anyone fighting to rid themselves of foreign overlords a terrorist and if the overlords are not open to reason then alternatives have to be explored and lots of brits are starting to understand that now,
nobody called the french resistance fighters terrorists except their overlords of course.
Your SOE terrorist organization was based on the IRA Sid. You like giving it out but can`t take it...
@@thomasrobert4654Does that stand for the Palestinians as well?
I would have liked to have seen a plaque explaining John Chilembwe.
The ANC also liked necklacing zulu opposition, not to mention solidarity with other marxist terror groups around the world.
I would imagine a monument plaque of Tedros of the WHO would be quite a substantial size to cover his dark past.
Thank you for this, Simon. Now can we have a video on Mr. Tedros and his murky past?
It would be a brave person today to leave a notice under his statue explaining his actions.
But I is a Blick telalist innit
What ?
@@Elijah.Ben.BENJAMIN54 You're a neap.
@@Elijah.Ben.BENJAMIN54 'Wot?'
That's it you're getting there '
You have only to look at his wife's jewelry box to know he mixed in very bad circles, full of soweto necklaces.
Look, whatever you say about this great man makes no difference. Just look at South Africa and its prosperity decades ago and look how much it has changed and improved now that Saint Mandela changed it to a utopia for all. 👍
''changed and improved''? ...you need to be better educated.
Yes, indeed. The demographic to which St. Mandela belonged seems to have a gift for creating utopias - just look at cities such as Detroit, Chicago, & Memphis in the US for proof.
From an African Town in Northern England. Our Nigerians are always smiling, do they know something we don't. Maybe it's because they have a country to go back to. We don't.
Not to forget that the sainted Gandhi was something of a racist in his time ........ but then these little peccadilloes are forgiven to the icons of the Far-Left.
Compleatly agree Simon, in the interests of fairness and balance a plaque should be placed there.
Go on. Get the plaque made. I'll chip in a Tenner.
South Africa and the people that lived there were better off before Mandela and his terrorists took over my brother lived there for over 40 years and I spent a lot of time there the people he murdered and tortured are never mentioned and I have no idea other than to pacify certain people there is a statue of him in this country or for that matter Mary Seagrove
In other words, it is a statue to a terrorist.
Agreed, there needs to be plaques reafirming who the subject actually is. Several years ago my wife took my then 12 year old daughter to London, upon entering Trafalgar Square my wife said ''oh look, there's Nelson's column'', to which my daughter replied, ''Nelson Mandela ?''
I could never understand why people sucked up to that dude. Mental amnesia. 🤔. 🇬🇧🏴 Ps. And living in palatial homes whilst everyone else livid in slums and that is still the case for his family to this day.
Simon you do make a good point here
He loved Necklaces too
Hi Simon I Agree about Nelson Mandela..But Re Ghandi He during Partition by Claiming All the Dalits As Hindu aka untouchables Was directly Responsible for the deaths of 1.2 Million Dalits ..
Vote for me or get your free car tyre.
Mandela statue was to be expected but why not Adams or mcguiness or the manchester arena bomber
We need a David Lammy and Diane Abbott statue erecting ASAP, possibly holding hands, just think of everything they have done for the country.
Done TO the country, don't you mean?
You can count on one foot
@@joyelmes7814 ... with a mismatched shoe.
Mandela, Zuma, Mugabe all did fantastic jobs at improving things*
*they didn't.
Was a cobbled street in Camden London called Selious street I think, we used to settle differences on the cobbles as kids, had a junk / antique shop on corner which Orwell may have based the one in 1984 on..before I left my home town for good I noticed it was now called 'Mandela' Way...hmmmm..Only fools and horses anyone 😀 😅😂
There's a Mandela Way which runs parallel with the Old Kent Rd also in Peckham there's Pelican house on the Pelican Est which was renamed in the 80s to Mandela house both in South London so there's the Fool's and Horses connection.
@@derekcable cheers 🍻
@@Jaymark-gk4li 👍
South africas another paradise now! Things did work out so well for them!
All he ever wanted ....... Was to be a Doctor , or Engineer.. 🏴
... and so became a lawyer instead
Good Morning
Good morning!
Of course Simon has *forgotten* to tell you all, precisely who it was that was giving training and direction to Mandela.
He mentioned the Moroccans and Ethiopians.
It wasn't the dews, so stop it.
@@AngelBaby-cp6kf Funny that with no mention on my part, *you* *knew* *who*
Nelson Mandela and his wife winnie mandela who he divorced when he came out of prison. She did some terrible acrocities in his name. Which just seemed to be swept under the rug and forgotten about.
Not by everyone