New Bike Path to Portland Airport
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- TriMet and Port of Portland have built a new protected bikeway between (just north of) NE 82nd Ave to the PDX Terminal via NE Air Cargo Road. It's pretty nice! Take a closer look with BikePortland's Jonathan Maus.
NOTE: After this vid was uploaded, the Port clarified that the 2014 Bike/Ped Plan alignment for the path is no longer in the plans. See the story on BikePortland for clarification bikeportland.o...
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I hope they have secure bike parking at the airport. I’m incredibly paranoid about leaving my bike outside especially in a place where people know I probably won’t be back for a while.
yeah that's one thing missing. But keep in mind that serving airport employees w short term parking is also really important
@@BikePortland i wonder if employees are able to bring their bikes inside somewhere. ive always been lucky and never had to lock up outside anywhere ive worked and i certainly wouldnt feel comfortable doing it anywhere in the pnw.
Take a biketown bike. Your bike will never be safe here.
Thanks, Jonathan. Another area to explore.
This looks great. I'll try it out soon. I agree that the crossings are stressful. The one across Airport Way to the Frontage road is the worst. I used it regularly in 2021 while volunteering at the mass vaccination site. The Cornfoot Rd multi use path project should help with access in the future, but I feel like there will still be gaps.
They need secure bike parking!
yeah this isnt really very functional without your wheels and or seat.
Agree. But I always removed front wheel, u-locked it to rear and frame, and took saddle with me. A bit annoying, but always an interesting conversation piece at TSA.
Ummm I left my bike locked up over a weekend and it was perfect. No one is boosting a bike at the airport, it is infested with cops and cameras!
I've been in the PDX metro area for ten years, so I'm at that awkward stage, remembering Orange county in SoCal. Those that are poo-pooing the validity of this and all the other paths that we enjoy are a very early step into green transportation for the masses. Which means we are on the cutting edge of what is available and doable. We could do worse than be role models for the rest of our country. As the biking community is embracing the new path to work, I'd like to see other videos designed for the beginning pleasure biker. They are the most common riders, but what they do and what their goals are just too dissimilar. Single pleasure bikers and I'd say a more serious need for family friendly bikers to learn the basics of family biking, concerns, solutions and best practices. This was a treat to see for me.
I took a "field trip" from Hillsboro to Salem (to surprise a couple of friends of mine. And they were.😆) I rode my bike from my house, to the Metro to the bus station downtown PDX. From there they stuffed my bike in luggage storage and I chilled in air conditioning. I got off the bus and the train depot in Salem and from there a four block ride on my bike again. No land speed records were broken, but it was a fun trip. I think one-way to and from for $14
Other than workers, what is the use case for a dedicated bike lane to the airport? How many travelers will have no luggage and a bike? Are you picking up a traveler in a bike?
Secure bike parking is clearly justified, just for the employees, if not passengers.
This is fantastic! When we lived in Portland years ago, I would always ride, and the bike storage was packed, even then. So hopefully with an improved trail, there'll be even more bikes there!
I'm so jealous! There is not even public transit in my local international airport!
Nice path, but who is expected to ride a bike to the airport? There can’t be that many people who fly with no luggage, maybe some employees will ride a bike, but I expect the Max is a far more popular option.
Employees and weekend trippers with a backpack
an excellent video . informative and concise.
that bike path is way better than most european protected lanes. there's just no space to build something so wide and delux.
If even a modsest number of airport employees now switch to seasonal bike use to get back and forth to work every day, this path is a good expenditure of a pretty small amount of money.
Could it be better, or improved? Sure.
But if it doesn't prove to increase the number of cyclists going to the airport...and thus less car traffic and parking issues.....then more time and money shouldn't be spent on it.
But I bet it will prove its worth----hopefully, without anyone getting hurt or killed before the remaining dangers are remedied!
Love to see the “cost/benefit” analysis for this.
Glad it was built as a foundation for future improvements. Would like to see raised crossings to get drivers to tap the breaks at the intersections. Also, parking garage space for bicycles would be nice
I don’t think you understand how great this video is❤
oh my gosh you really think so?! I've worked really hard to improve my video work so it's sooo nice to hear that. I just wish I could do more but I'm a one person news operation and my main focus is daily written news stories on our website and doing our social media.
@@BikePortland I know a bit about video. It’s really good, on so many levels.
Nice stuff, but the treatment of the turn lane crossing over the bike path/tracks is crazy. First of all that it requires bikes to stop, but even for drivers. It's a high speed funnel right into a railroad crossing with a poor angle visibility. If it can't be made sharper with a more perpendicular approach angle (it definitely could), then it should have speed cushions.
This connects to the Marine Dr path and/or 205 path?
No not directly.
There is a new section of multi-user path near Gateway, on the new MAX overpass and trackage that rook out most of the upper section of Gateway Green. Hopefully it will connect to this section of airport path. It still cost Portland a chunk of MTB area that is not easily replaced with more trails.
If there were secure bike parking substantially cheaper than car parking, I'd be all in. Bike + MAX is a great combo that I would take with a light backpack for a weekend trip
Of all the places for nonsecure parking this seems fairly safe. I can't imagine jumping on a plane after riding in but perhaps meeting someone for a pick up. Or if I worked there. Thanks for the video, super informative.
How do you pull your luggage with your bike? Is there an attachment?
hey, that was professional informative and cogent. good job!
Those posts in the middle of the bike lane are short. They seem to offer a likely way to get hurt.
Thanks Jonathan!
Smoothest box to ride transition I've ever had from a west coast airport was San Diego. No cool bike stand with missing tools (looking at you SF) but easy access to the bike trail going south.
Those parking entrance to sidewalk interactions are sketchy. I'd just road ride until the trail.
Very cool!!
I guess it's a start??
it's always strange to see such disconnected "bike paths" (that are sometimes just sidewalks re-designated as multi use paths) with terrible intersection designs.
The path looks great but I’m too scared to cross those intersections. The connections to the rest of the bike network are horrible.
It appears by the signage it is a walking path as well.
I am visiting Seattle for work with my wife next month, and taking our own bicycles to ride in Seattle and then in Portland.
Can someone recommend nice (paved) routes in Portland?
We commonly do 30-60km (500m) on our road bikes.
I’m pretty jealous. A few day trip can make Airport parking here costs as much as the flight lately. I doubt many people would steal a bicycle at the airport not when there’s that much foot traffic and at night there’s cops. I’d risk it.
Can you buy a cardboard bike box in the airport?
Uh, technically the bike path was to your left in the road the whole time you were on the sidewalk. That is why there is a white line in the road like that.
But granted, it's super narrow. I'd also probably just get on the sidewalk for that portion.
Uh, looked more like a typical Solid White Shoulder line indicating the edge of the road. How could it be a 2-way bike path when it shrunk down to less than 1 foot at the Cell Phone Waiting Area intersection?
How will you get your luggage to the airport on your bike?
Cool! Seems a bit better than the old path which forced you to cross Airport Way (but at least that's lighted, unlike the crossings in this design). Now if only PDX could install some secure bicycle parking with ebike charging. 😅
They’re just gonna somehow still use the road. Every time.
yayyyyyyy
"Why are bike lanes on the tarmac but taxis must stay three miles away?" - SNL
Rad video, I just kept wishing you had a helmet and gloves.
Horrible idea, Bikebudda and Dave's comments are on point.
While I am a HUGE advocate for bike infrastructure, Other than for airport employees, there is almost no viable use here as few people are gonna take their suitcase on a bike and park their bike for 7 days at the airport. A MUCH better use of money would be to connect MORE areas to the train (or other mass transit) via protected bike lanes. Then, travelers AND even more airport employees could use it.
Years ago, I did RAGBRAI, a bicycle ride in Iowa. I rode my bike to PDX and bought a bike box from United into which I put my bike. It flew with me to Des Moines where I got the bike, put it back together and rode with my panniers to my motel. A couple I know in Vancouver, BC rode their bikes to their airport and handed their bikes over to Lufthansa. They put them into plastic bags and the bikes flew with them to Frankfurt. Once there, they got their bikes, gave the bags back to Lufthansa (they survived the trip in good shape) and rode off.
Bottom line is that it's possible but my friends and I are in an infinitesimally small number of people who have done it.
Or instead we could take a tiny portion of the tens of billions spent on more car capacity and build both ;)
@@fietsenOveral4650 fair enough and, with one caveat, I fully agree. It’s never a good idea to use public funds to build infrastructure of any kind that have extremely limited uses. Right back to my point. Yes, maybe a handful of bike packers will take this trail to the airport to ship their bike to Europe and maybe some airport employees will take this trail to work. But, wouldn’t a better return on investment be to build a LOT MORE infrastructure to serve a lot more people? I support taking money out of the “car” budget and putting it into the “bike” budget for infrastructure development. But the projects that are built should serve more than a niche population…. Much better to put in terrific bike infrastracture to the train stations and, at those stations include secured paid bike parking options.
@@davidmurphy291 I can put many things in my backback I can take with me on my bike. A normal sized backpack even, small enough to take as hand luggage. a few days city trip, some business trips, plenty of ways to travel without big suitcases you can't take on a bike.
@@mymemeplex ok, great. And you will load your backpack, ride your bike to the airport, and fly away. 1) that puts you in a small subset of travelers and 2) How many times a year will you do that? Four? Once? Nine? The key point that you are missing about what I am saying is that spending millions on a bike path to an airport provides an opportunity to serve far fewer people than building.extending a dozen bike paths to a rapid transit station or anywhere else in your city where a lot of people go to work or engage in commerce. You may ride to the airport and fly once or twice a year……. But you would use a bike trail tied to mass transit or commerce 300 times a year. And, for the population as a whole, they are far more likely to use a local trail at least a few times a year than to EVER use it to go to the airport.
For bikers going to the airport, they can use light rail. Now if it was better connected to the river... Just something the city government wasted more of our tax money on when there are more pressing problems to deal with.
It's better than nothing but this is pathetic for a city that claims to pride itself in its cycling culture
So you die under a truck before you get to the bike path. Great city planning.
what a waste of tax money......
It’ll be blocked with tents within a week
Portland was once known as bike friendly. What happened? This route is too dangerous. This is not a protected bikeway.
I'd rather take a car. What a waste of money.
Nothing screams "stupid" like a bike path to an airport.... My god, do you think anyone will actually ride a bike - carrying 2 big suitcases - to the airport?
Oh my god, do you think you have to bring 2 suitcases to work just because you're working at the airport??
@@user-qo4kb4dr1i why on earth would anybody carry suitcases to work? I'm obviously talking about someone taking their bike to the airport to go on vacation...
@@bikebudha01 It will be extremely rare for someone to bike to PDX to board a flight. It'll be used mostly for employees of the airport.
1. Cargo bikes exist and can carry up to a few hundred pounds of stuff. It’s 2024, carrying things on bikes isn’t challenging anymore.
2. Not everyone travels with giant suitcases, some people travel a lot lighter and more practically.
3. The target audience for this is obviously airport employees.
I work at the airport and use this path all the time.
Are you not wearing a helmet, my guy? Come on, now..